[GUIDE] Installing Windows 8 Preview on the HTC Shift - Shift Development

This thread is to record comments/questions on a guide I have posted up on my site regarding the steps to get a fully working Windows 8 Developer Preview install onto the HTC Shift.
http://blogs.distant-earth.com/wp/?p=313
The process to get Windows 8 working (with graphics correctly setup etc.) is a little bit of a pain but nothing all that difficult. Especially if you follow the steps (usual rules, I made mistakes to save others the hassle )
The resulting install of Windows 8 running at 1024*600 is VERY usable , much to my surprise. Metro is actually quite nice on the tablet form factor.
The touchscreen is a little unresponsive round the edges but I suspect that is my device as it has never been very good.

good work man thanks so much i will try and post my trial

nooor7772000 said:
good work man thanks so much i will try and post my trial
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Thank you. I can't install any driver even with my ethernet connection :-(

bouaroudj said:
Thank you. I can't install any driver even with my ethernet connection :-(
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SmartScreen by any chance?
If your getting the green messages the chances are you Ethernet connection is not working (is it USB, does Windows 8 ship with the driver for whatever chip it uses?).
Below is a copy/paste from a comment I made on the guide concerning SmartScreen issues.
djwillis said:
Hi,
The reason you get the green SmartScreen error messages is the lack of an Internet connection. Windows 8 includes a feature that used to only be part of IE that calls off to an MS web service to verify digital signatures are valid on newer type signed executables.
As both the Intel graphics driver and Windows Mobile Device Center are signed you can’t install without an internet connection or crippling SmartScreen.
Have another read as the order in which I installed the drivers was very deliberate and also intentionally ordered the way it was to work around the SmartScreen issues.
The guide does not even try to install the signed executables until you have got the Wireless LAN up and running so the signatures can be verified, I even mention SmartScreen as one of the reasons for the order of drivers in the guide .
Regards,
John
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I don't suppose you have all the needed drivers and could share them somewhere? i cant get any of the links to work so cant get it ready for the upgrade
Also can the test version be installed fresh? i am trying to get windows 7 working for an upgrade but if it can be done fresh i will do that xD

Lord_alias said:
I don't suppose you have all the needed drivers and could share them somewhere? i cant get any of the links to work so cant get it ready for the upgrade
Also can the test version be installed fresh? i am trying to get windows 7 working for an upgrade but if it can be done fresh i will do that xD
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Hi,
All the needed drivers are linked off the guide but as the HTC site seems to be up and down today I have now added mirrors to all the files (uploaded them to my server).
Checked and all the mirror links seem to be working fine .
The best way to try Windows 8 on the Shift is actually a fresh install. I would not suggest an upgrade at all .

fantastic i will give it a shot now
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right i have another problem lol i have everything set up right with all the drivers standing by but when i choose to install i get an error about CD/DVD drives followed by a lack of HDD error any ideas?

Lord_alias said:
[/COLOR]right i have another problem lol i have everything set up right with all the drivers standing by but when i choose to install i get an error about CD/DVD drives followed by a lack of HDD error any ideas?
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Are you going for a totally clean install as per the guide?
Is your USB stick all setup and bootable?
Assuming you are getting into the Windows setup booting off of the USB stick is it the part where you select the install disk that seems to show no HDD? If it it what was installed on your Shift before?
This sounds like an issue I had when I have Meego running off the HDD before I installed Windows 8 (BtrFS and a different partition layout seem to cause it).

Need Help,
I used the MS software to create the USB boot disk for window 8. try to install on the Shift. got to the part where it said loading files...then it show some blue squares on the upper left screen...it goes for 1/3 of the way and hang up....I let it run for 2 hours and had to do pull the battery.
try to re-install again..same result...
Do I need to format and partition the disk?

thatboyp said:
Need Help,
I used the MS software to create the USB boot disk for window 8. try to install on the Shift. got to the part where it said loading files...then it show some blue squares on the upper left screen...it goes for 1/3 of the way and hang up....I let it run for 2 hours and had to do pull the battery.
try to re-install again..same result...
Do I need to format and partition the disk?
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That sounds like a bad stick to be honest . The blue squares are replaced with the install menu after just a few minutes. This is all well before anything is messing with the Shift's HDD or hardware .
Try reformatting it and having another go. It can't hurt.

djwillis said:
Are you going for a totally clean install as per the guide?
Is your USB stick all setup and bootable?
Assuming you are getting into the Windows setup booting off of the USB stick is it the part where you select the install disk that seems to show no HDD? If it it what was installed on your Shift before?
This sounds like an issue I had when I have Meego running off the HDD before I installed Windows 8 (BtrFS and a different partition layout seem to cause it).
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Right i managed to find the problem, only used your quide for the drivers as i installed windows 7 in a similar way, i used CMD and DISKPART to get a pen drive ready and then used XCOPY to move the installation media onto the drive but for some reason even though it said it was finished it was missing out a couple of files inside the sources folder, once i used XCOPY again over the existing media it managed to find the missing files and copy them. So you where right it was a problem with drivers missing from the install media and once they where found it was all clean sailing thanks to your fantastic guide
Thanks again xD

djwillis said:
SmartScreen by any chance?
If your getting the green messages the chances are you Ethernet connection is not working (is it USB, does Windows 8 ship with the driver for whatever chip it uses?).
Below is a copy/paste from a comment I made on the guide concerning SmartScreen issues.
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Ok thanks it worked.
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Lord_alias said:
I don't suppose you have all the needed drivers and could share them somewhere? i cant get any of the links to work so cant get it ready for the upgrade
Also can the test version be installed fresh? i am trying to get windows 7 working for an upgrade but if it can be done fresh i will do that xD
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here is a working link :
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-shift/downloads/

bouaroudj said:
here is a working link :
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-shift/downloads/
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Thanks, added that link to the guide, HTC's site seemed to be up and down all weekend but the link you posted seems to work now so lets go with it .
John

djwillis said:
Thanks, added that link to the guide, HTC's site seemed to be up and down all weekend but the link you posted seems to work now so lets go with it .
John
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I posted a small video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATsDKMQu9I4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sorry it's in french

Has anyone tried this yet on a AT&T tilt? My old tilt is lonely!

mdz24cavalier said:
Has anyone tried this yet on a AT&T tilt? My old tilt is lonely!
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Hmmm, the Tilt is an ARM based HTC Kaiser, the Shift is a much bigger x86 based UMPC (with a cut down HTC Kaiser effectively shoved in to look after the ARM Windows Mobile side of the device ).
As this is running normal x86 Windows 8 I would not expect to see your old Tilt getting much love from the guide .

sir is it possible to install win(8) on HTC-HD2... r HD7.

If you want to force the 1024 x 768 resolution to launch Metro apps !
blog.daily-dev .com /?p=271&lang=en
The english is not perfect but you can remove the "&lang=en" to see it in french.
P.S : Sorry for the link format but i'm new on this forum so can't post URL

I cannot install Win 8 on my HTC Shift.
I follow the guide but using with 4GB Flash Drive.
any thing help or comments please!
thanks

Well... I have installed Win8 on the Shift without any trouble.
Overall I find it too slow for being usable. Neither Vista, 7 or 8 seem to be enough responsive.
I am very disappointed by the Metro UI, it is really slow and even in 1152*864 it does not work quite well.
What do you think about Metro UI responsiveness?
I have a lot of trouble getting accurate touch... it shows a circle but it seems that only a FEW (3-4 ?) pixels trigger... so you still have to find the precise point that will get the touch event.. OUCH !
It is especially painful to hit a corner (windows button, the task bar, and the application bar). I have to do almost everything with the mouse.... *SICK*
Intel driver supports several resolution... AMAZING ! but we need two things:
- change the resolution switch from 800*480 - 1024*600 to 800*480 - 1024*600 - 1024*768 - 1152*864 ... or at least get the ability to change the 1024*600.
- change the rotation : as a tablet... the screen rotation is kinda important...but well it is just a detail ;-)
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picheth said:
I cannot install Win 8 on my HTC Shift.
I follow the guide but using with 4GB Flash Drive.
any thing help or comments please!
thanks
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what is the problem?
4GB Flash Drive seem a little bit too small. I have used a HDD of 20GB with the whole partition set as active.
It is for me the fastest and easiest solution to install Windows on the shift.
Have you been able to go to start the installation of Windows 8 ?
You need to press F12 during the boot to choose which drive to boot on.

Related

Linux on HTC SHIFT (MSM7200 side)

Hi,
I read in the Kaiser thread a bit about how to install Linux on MSM7200 but i realy didn't get how to enter the shifts bootloader and how to move a "kernel image" aand boot it. im a noob when it goes to HTC devices but im expirienced when its about Linux, and i realy would like to get linux into my HTC shift (not the Stealy side)
Is anyone out there who could give me some hints and starting points ... tried nearly al buttons while WinMo start to enter bootloader but there must be another trick or ?!
HardSPL'ed Shift with TECE's rom
Kind regards
Neutron
(ps. could there be a small possibility to run Android in it ?!?
pps. anyone looked around what the difference in wireing is from shift (MSM72k) to Kaiser MSM72k could we "build our kaiser roms to work on shift ?!?) <--- only thoughts ?
On WinMo side you must use HaRET to boot linux images. There is no working image for Shift yet, and I don`t really know if anyone is working on it. Before you can really start working on android you probably have to have sdcard-support enabled on your WinMo. It would be nice to get android running on shift
Has anyone tried running haret and start the network listener? It could reveal something about the hardware I guess.
Hi there tried it with HaRET and tryed the kaiser android rom from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
it nearly booted but stoped with the following error code !!
failed to lock 5387 pages (Code 998)
Anyone around who would like to get it working to and familarr with haret ??
I just tried and will go to debugging later on
nvmpk: i'll try to connectt it when im at work ! i think the same i would like to get the phone side working and i think the linux environment could give easy'er lookthrou than the ****ty windows mobile
So first of all it would be nice starting point to just get linux console working. Before even get there, someone have to create kernel that has support for shifts keyboard and screen etc odd hardware.
Neutron83 said:
it nearly booted but stoped with the following error code !!
failed to lock 5387 pages (Code 998)
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How much RAM does it have ?
I got my shift boot with HaRET to that point when "HaRET: booting linux" progressbar completes fully and then screen gets black only Haret 0.5.1 text and that bar is on top of window.
Just go to WinMo side and disable all items from today screen, run cleartemp, then switch to vista side and hibernate/shutdown. Then again back to WinMo side and soft reset. After that start HaRET and when the windows mobile start menu is on bottom of the screen click it, go to settings->system->memory and close all running programs and close all other windows except HaRET and then run it.
22.1-22.4MB (43.05MB total) memory free for programs with those actions.
EDIT: This works about 2 times of 200 attempts. Usually it hangs when "HaRET: booting linux" progressbar is about 95% completed.
Okay guys,
UPDATE:
I made my first 2 kernels from the ones at linux to go
first with the htckaiser config wich gave an flickering fullscreen purple !! seems msm7200 can address full screen!
second kernel done with versatile-default config, there it did the following:
i made a haret log 2 interessting parts: Framebuffer overlaps with kernel
and stand still
after go go go...
Anyone could help ??
if anyone could help me with the stuff i could dump stuff from the shift for you !!
thx
dump
as i was idle'iin in freenode htc-linux someone sayed me that dump of mmu would help so i attach it here. if you need something else please say
earlyharetlog.txt
News
Hi people who are interested in getting MSM7200 linux kernel running .
Some Breaking news:
Edit: i was WRONG i know it with the addresses now
any updates on this project?
Yeah i got framebuffer to work, as im very busy with work and it seemed that nobody seems interested in it i did my development for my own. when im ready to get it fully booted & access the 3g data channel i will post an update.
Or is there some real intresst in this project (as i dont want to keep my stuff for myself) And some programmers that are willing to help with the dev in it.
Greets
I'm interested!
An instant-on Linux machine would be great. I don't need any MS stuff like Activesync, so for me it would give a nice flexible solution, if there was enough memory for some apps, and the 3G worked from the other side.
I hope it succeeds.
Thanks for trying.
Matthew
interrest sure, developers who are able to help with that topic(linux interns) unfortunately not.
Any news?
Hi everyone, I have stepped on your thread by pure chance while looking for a real alternative for my Shift and I have found it enlightening...
The fact is I am not too happy (even if slightly satisfied) with the brand new Windows 7 RC (build 7100) and the windows Mobile running on the Shift and would love to try an all-around linux solution... however there would be no point in getting linux on the Intel/Vista side if I would have to be stuck with Windows Mobile on the ARM/WinMO side, in my opinion at least...
Anything going on here to put linux on the ARM/WinMO side? I am not a developer but if there is anything I can do to help out reaching the goal...
Have a nice day!
Is there svn or cvs placed anywhere for this project? Just wanted to know if there is possibility to get current project files..
Has someone cooked small rom that only contains usbtool and haret or is this going to be used with kexec-bootloader that can boot from network storage?
well it has been a while when someone wrote to this topic.. I have been working with linux for MSM7200 side for shift for couple of days. There is buildroot called toolset to compile kernel+uclibc+busybox and I have been wondering if that could be used to build console only linux for shift to replace winmo.
I got first build created today but it did not end up anything special. haret loads kernel completely(or I thought so as there is nothing errors on haretlog.txt). It just does not show anything after booting with haret, so there is something that should be done to get correct drivers or settings for screen..
Here is first bootlog for shift without mmc support:
http://pastebin.ca/1845069
EDIT: there is also wiki page created for shift msm: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Clio
Hi, I have bought this phone.
And I wan't to install Linux on it.
For the x86 Side (Intel) no problems.
But I don't wan't have ANY WinMo.
Can I flash to ARM Rom to input an Android OS ?
Can use whole screen, or not (the wiki say not ...).
Any peoples can boot Linux on ARM, and phone with ?
Thanks.

[ROM] (Phone+GPS+Vista GPS+touch)Thaihugo's shift age of reason and age of beauty

Hello,
I'm still working on the different sound topics, but here are my newest roms.
I call them age of reason and age of beauty. This is a kind of trial for the second one...
The point is that we need a rom to really use the shift possibility. We need storage space, real gps useage, and of course maximum ram.
This is the age of reason rom. The lightest possible rom, where you can add a lot of programs, more if you use UPX compression.
You need to flash the radio from the phone+gps rom before using this one.
What does it have:
42 Mb storage and 22 Mb memory free
WORK on WINMOB SIDE
All standard Winmob application (ie, notes, media player, sms, phone, gps)
Task manager to soft reset, kill process, etc...
Clear temp (as requested)
USB tools
A homemade program to switch the speaker when on call. This program is for my development my roms only, and it work as a service, so it cannot be killed by the OS.
There is a managment program to remove the service if needed.
WORK WITH VISTA
storage:
A network browser to access the vista HDD
GPS:
An automatic GPS redirection to the PC side
This program is GPS2Blue, and it is preconfigured. You just have to launch the shortcut in HTC debug tools, and setup vista to get communication.
GPS works on both side, so you can use it on Windows mobile too of course
A few words on this last program.
GPS2Blue is a program made by Paludour. You can check his website here:
http://www.paludour.net
He allowed me to add this program to my roms, as you must normally download the cab from his site. This way, I could put it preconfigured on our devices. Many thanks to him for that.
When you are connected with usbtools to vista, click on this gps2blue icon, and you can receve the gps on vista if you follow this guideline:
http://www.paludour.net/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
Just click on the gps2blue icon when you have to do the PDA side of this tutorial, the rest is aleady done.
The link for this rom is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjm0ydmmz5/Light.rar
MD5: 4c31ba01b109e22cd77bc3da53220672
Mirror:http://www.filesavr.com/light_1
Now for the other rom, the age of beauty:
This rom is the same, with one little twist: there is pointUI pre-installed.
This is a test, as I don't know if this is a good way instead of installing it afterward. Anyway, you are good for some eyecandy.
You have to pay for this: you have only 37 Mb of sorage, and 9 (yes, nine) megs of free memory after reset. But the good news is that you can disable it, and still be using the rom. So you can choose when you want eye candy, and when you want to be serious. If it is requested, I might update this one.
The link for this one is:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3zmtnyi2mjh/Full.rar
MD5:fe2a2d6592339c29c994e4a2e6638d1e
Enjoy and report here if you like it.
How to connect to vista side:
first, know the name of your shift. If you didn't change it it is SHIFT, otherwise type hostname in a command line in vista side.
then type services.msc and make sure the server service is started and set up to automatic if you want it to start every boot
Now type \\shift in your start menu. A windows must open, and you should see thinks, like Users,and printers. If not, don't worry, you can still go on. For more advanced users, it can be a good time to set up a share.
Now go on Snapvue side, and go to settings-connections-network plugin. First click on the "enable network folder" and wait for the reset.
Now, when reset is done, start usbtools to activate activesync. On vista side, make sure you are connected ( set up a partnership, or just click on connect whitout partneship. In this case, you will have to do it each time.)
Go back on Snapvue, and in network plugin click on New...
In remote path, enter \\shift\users if shift is your computername, and if you saw Users in the window on the second step.
Otherwise, you can enter \\shift\c$ to access the whole drive.
Click on map drive. Enter your username and your password (the one you use to login in vista)
Now, you can browse the pc using the network folder. You can add music to media player, browse pictures, wmv video...
You can even install some progs on vista side, but I don't recommend it. You might use it also as a data storage for SPB insight (my little baby) for example
thank you.
thaihugo said:
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PointUI 2 is good, but I liked PointUI1.5 better. If they could let us choose the search provider that would be awesome.
--Rama--
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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The ROM looks and feels supersweet. However, if you work with it
for some time it get's laggy. No harm, we all understand it's a test.
Will play with the GPS2Blue thing to get that fixed too.
lucid said:
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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No, but I think this is going to be solved without flashing a new rom
Thanks ThaiHugo.
I preferred "age of beauty". How works the network browser to access the vista HDD? I am not able. If you can help me please.
Thanks Thaihugo, this rom is really good and a lot of free memory and storage for programs. Only problem is that when I have Vista side open gps isn't working for me. Well it is working (satellite used about 4-10) but Satellite Fixed stays 0. When I turn off vista side Satellite Fixed is after a few seconds 5-7.. I have Windows 7 build 7000 installed on vista side and Light version on snapvue side
JaWe said:
Thanks Thaihugo, this rom is really good and a lot of free memory and storage for programs. Only problem is that when I have Vista side open gps isn't working for me. Well it is working (satellite used about 4-10) but Satellite Fixed stays 0. When I turn off vista side Satellite Fixed is after a few seconds 5-7.. I have Windows 7 build 7000 installed on vista side and Light version on snapvue side
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I have the same problem, but I've had this with other roms too
Thanks for this... I do not have Auto Connection
It does not seem this new beatiful ROM has auto connection, not been able to connect WM 3g or am I missing something? Thanks
feyisetan said:
It does not seem this new beatiful ROM has auto connection, not been able to connect WM 3g or am I missing something? Thanks
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I removed automatic connection setup to save space. You need to setup your connection by yourself in settings-connections. Once done, it will connect automaticaly. Most providers can sen you a sms from their web site with connection settings.
I'm not sure you want to lose 3 megs of storage for this one time operation, do you?
Downloading the ROM
Thanks
lucid said:
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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The ROM looks and feels supersweet. However, if you work with it
for some time it get's laggy. No harm, we all understand it's a test.
Will play with the GPS2Blue thing to get that fixed too.
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If you want, you can just disable the today plugin, and you get a full working wm for when you want to be serious. And you just soft reset when you are just using it as an updated snapvue.
To disale fully pointui:
delete the shortcut in \windows\startup (start2) and disable the today plugin.
To reenable, recheck the today plugin.
your rom is the best
thaihugo said:
If you want, you can just disable the today plugin, and you get a full working wm for when you want to be serious. And you just soft reset when you are just using it as an updated snapvue.
To disale fully pointui:
delete the shortcut in \windows\startup (start2) and disable the today plugin.
To reenable, recheck the today plugin.
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Thaihugo, I love your rom very much so fast and simple,easy for install software and hope many function will be coming
added tutorial to connect the vista HDD on second post.
siriokeliang said:
Thanks ThaiHugo.
I preferred "age of beauty". How works the network browser to access the vista HDD? I am not able. If you can help me please.
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You can read my tutorial on post 2.
thaihugo said:
You can read my tutorial on post 2.
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I'll swear that I had not seen.
siriokeliang said:
I'll swear that I had not seen.
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I posted it today only, after you requested it
Installed the 'light' ROM yesterday. Works great.
Thanks again
thaihugo said:
Hello,
I'm still working on the different sound topics, but here are my newest roms.
I call them age of reason and age of beauty. This is a kind of trial for the second one...
The point is that we need a rom to really use the shift possibility. We need storage space, real gps useage, and of course maximum ram.
This is the age of reason rom. The lightest possible rom, where you can add a lot of programs, more if you use UPX compression.
You need to flash the radio from the phone+gps rom before using this one.
What does it have:
42 Mb storage and 22 Mb memory free
WORK on WINMOB SIDE
All standard Winmob application (ie, notes, media player, sms, phone, gps)
Task manager to soft reset, kill process, etc...
Clear temp (as requested)
USB tools
A homemade program to switch the speaker when on call. This program is for my development my roms only, and it work as a service, so it cannot be killed by the OS.
There is a managment program to remove the service if needed.
WORK WITH VISTA
storage:
A network browser to access the vista HDD
GPS:
An automatic GPS redirection to the PC side
This program is GPS2Blue, and it is preconfigured. You just have to launch the shortcut in HTC debug tools, and setup vista to get communication.
GPS works on both side, so you can use it on Windows mobile too of course
A few words on this last program.
GPS2Blue is a program made by Paludour. You can check his website here:
http://www.paludour.net
He allowed me to add this program to my roms, as you must normally download the cab from his site. This way, I could put it preconfigured on our devices. Many thanks to him for that.
When you are connected with usbtools to vista, click on this gps2blue icon, and you can receve the gps on vista if you follow this guideline:
http://www.paludour.net/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
Just click on the gps2blue icon when you have to do the PDA side of this tutorial, the rest is aleady done.
The link for this rom is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjm0ydmmz5/Light.rar
MD5: 4c31ba01b109e22cd77bc3da53220672
Now for the other rom, the age of beauty:
This rom is the same, with one little twist: there is pointUI pre-installed.
This is a test, as I don't know if this is a good way instead of installing it afterward. Anyway, you are good for some eyecandy.
You have to pay for this: you have only 37 Mb of sorage, and 9 (yes, nine) megs of free memory after reset. But the good news is that you can disable it, and still be using the rom. So you can choose when you want eye candy, and when you want to be serious. If it is requested, I might update this one.
The link for this one is:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3zmtnyi2mjh/Full.rar
MD5:fe2a2d6592339c29c994e4a2e6638d1e
Enjoy and report here if you like it.
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i can't download from the above link,can you upload to other site
leonlsl said:
i can't download from the above link,can you upload to other site
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It's pointless if you don't say which rom you want, and which site you can download from.

A "Stripped to the bone" ISO of win7, a good idea?

I was wondering if anyones gone before me and done this and has any thoughts and ideas to share.
IF anyone is familiar with 7customizer, I was never clear now in it's v1.13 stage that it had any ability to remove crap like vlite to make a slimmed version of win7 suitable for the HTC SHIFT with as small HDD footprint and few running services as possible.
7customizer is new and seems limited but built for win7.
vlite is said to work well with win7 but is built for vista.
I have tried 7customizer and all i was able to do was make the installation of win7 unattended which is a real whop-di-do...
vlite for win7 i tried but and got the image from 2.3gb down to 1.2gb which is real nice but upon selecting regional settings in the first stage it then asked me for some drivers and showed a blank dialog box, i never got past this stage to chose which partition to install on and got stuck.
has someone perhaps done this successful with a saved vlite preset on what was saved and what got chucked?
is all this maybe to much trouble to go through for ultimately little gain?
Had a bit of difficulty sleeping last night so i got started on this project and spent some time thinking about it and i decided to ask you guys for help.
Tiny 7 is worth a look with an installation size of 2.6gb (on the hdd) but i couldnt get the touchscreen to work on it
tiny 7 is a program or a home made ISO of win7?
But the lack of touchscreen is a dealbreaker, you sure theres no hope?
Unless they decide to add it again, I tried the add/remove windows features with no luck.
I know there is a way to slim your Windows 7 but I have not tried. Please cked the following:
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/windows-7/8441-how-slim-down-windows-7-a.html
Some progress ive tried vlite to copy tiny7 with no luck however ive found out that the driver is installing (the touchscreen shows up in HID's)
The problem is the lack of the TabletInputService which should be eaiser to port than the entire tablet pc components. The service points to
C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalSystemNetworkRestricted
If we could find a way to add this service to tiny7 we will have an iso that only takes up 2.4GB of hdd and flys on the HTC Shift.
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tiny 7 is a program or a home made ISO of win7?
But the lack of touchscreen is a dealbreaker, you sure theres no hope?
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Its a striped down version of 7, look it up on google

PC Suite For Android V1.3.1.70 Released

New Functions:
1.Added the network backup/restoration function, allowing you to back up or restore your contacts, SMS, call history and calendar to or from network.
2.Added “Installation Queue” function in Apps, allowing you to check each app’s installation process or delete apps pending for installation when you are installing multiple apps.
3.Added support for “resume interrupted downloads” feature, allowing you to pause downloading tasks and resume downloads at any time.
4.Added “Rotate Left” and “Rotate Right” function in “ScreenSnap”, which is accessible on the pop-up menu when you right-click on a screenshot.
Function Improvements:
1.Start: optimized the connection with the phone and resolved the problem that the program may get stuck in the “Initializing connection…” process.
2.Contacts: improved the processing logic of contact’s avatars.
3.SMS: resolved the problem that SMS may be unable to load. If your SMS management interface can not show normally, please check if your browser has disabled scripts.
4.SMS Chat: improved the user experience of SMS chat. Now the SMS of sender and receiver will be differentiated with different background colors. If your chat log can not show normally, please check if your browser has disabled scripts.
5.Notes: now new notes will be titled with the first 25 characters of the note contents instead of the original “new notes”.
6.Wallpapers: now wallpapers on the internet will be automatically filtered according to your phone’s resolution, allowing you to easily find wallpapers fitting your phone screen better.
7.One-key Transfer: now the One-key Transfer also supports unsupported fields in contact info to free you from the worry of incomplete data.
8.Docs: now the directory of My Documents has been moved to “/sdcard/My Documents”.
9.Other function improvements.
Bug Fixes:
1.Call History: fixed the incorrect row location of call logs when they are imported from or exported to Excel file.
2.Resolved the problem that the contact name in call history may fail to refresh instantly.
3.Fixed the contact name error in SMS and SMS chat.
4.In Bookmarks, resolved the problem that there may be no correct prompts when the bookmarks are being exported to Favorites.
5.Other bug fixes.
link:download.pandaapp.com
Are you the developer of this app? is it working for the slide? Im going to try it out but dont really like installing exe's from company's I dont know of.
no im not the developer but i used and this is pretty cool and yes it works with the slide!!!!!
Well i don't know if i want to download it. I will wait for review from other people here before i download and install the file
it seems good and has the whole sms chat thing which I started liking because of pdanet .. you have any links to other forums with reviews or anything?
no but give it a try it doesnt hurt to try this is for your comp and is like itunes but for androids phones you can install apps from your comp,you can put music in your phone you can download apps and put them in the phone automatically you can sms chat while your phone is connected your comp you can put pictures,videos,edit them,you can see your phone files have control of your phone in your pc you dont need anything else try it your are not going to regret it trustme!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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no im not the developer but i used and this is pretty cool and yes it works with the slide!!!!!
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Hi Flexxoo,
i donwload and installed to my XP, but it cannot connect to my Smasung galaxy S (I9000)?
Does it work on Samsung Galaxy S? If yes, can you show me how to connect?
Cheers,
Danny
Doesn't install on windows 7 x64 the install doesn't even open up.
It does work cause i have windows 7 and it works for me and yes it works for all the android phones connect the phone to the computer and in your phone go to settings then go to manage apps and turn on debugged so your pc suite can reconize it
Funny, I've downloaded the program 3 diff times on 3diff win7 x64 ultimate pc's and none of them run it.... I'm a computer tech and I'm pretty sure it doesn't work.
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It does work cause i have windows 7 and it works for me and yes it works for all the android phones connect the phone to the computer and in your phone go to settings then go to manage apps and turn on debugged so your pc suite can reconize it
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Hi flexxoo,
Thanks a lot, now I'm able to connect to PC Suite.
Cheers,
Danny
fenixnr said:
Funny, I've downloaded the program 3 diff times on 3diff win7 x64 ultimate pc's and none of them run it.... I'm a computer tech and I'm pretty sure it doesn't work.
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Agreed. Won't install on 64-bit Windows 7.
Well i guess i have a special windows 7 64 bits because i have it in my comp did you try to install the app in administrator?
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Well i guess i have a special windows 7 64 bits because i have it in my comp did you try to install the app in administrator?
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Yep many times, or you just don't have x64.
of course i have it oh well if it didnt work for you 2 bad!!!
It works with SGS GT-I9000 but you have to put the phone in usb debugging mode: Settings/Application/Development
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Yep many times, or you just don't have x64.
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lmao. or your just not a good computer tech. as maybe not this installer file. but i have this program on my x64 machine and my x86 machine. the installer i used worked on both. this was awhile back when i found this program for the g1 and mytouch
since your a computer tech you know how to search ? find anouther fileversion and try... then say the app dont work on x64
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lmao. or your just not a good computer tech. as maybe not this installer file. but i have this program on my x64 machine and my x86 machine. the installer i used worked on both. this was awhile back when i found this program for the g1 and mytouch
since your a computer tech you know how to search ? find anouther fileversion and try... then say the app dont work on x64
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Or I just won't use the program that is good for nothing. Why would I search for a file when he posted one that "works" Maybe because it doesn't "work" and has been proven by not just me. So take your ignorant remarks elsewhere.
why are you still complaining? if it doesnt work for you ok you dont have to keep saying the same thing we get it steve jobs!!!!!!!!!!!
Current version 1.76.208
I am running version 1.76.208 on Windows 7 64 bit, controlling an Atrix 4G
Download the program at http://91.pandaapp.com/pcsuite/
A fix for a bug that the developer keeps forgetting to repair (it always opens in Chinese!)
Close down the program and open the directory where the app is:
C:\Program Files (x86)\NetDragon\91 Mobile\Android on 64 bit machines
C:\Program Files\NetDragon\91 Mobile\Android on 32 bit machines
open the file named "91 PC Suite.xml" with notepad
change this line
<Language Current="zh-CN" Default="zh-CN" />
to
<Language Current="en-US" Default="en-US" />
Save the file.
Restart the program

Mac OS X v10.5.6 complete [Updated 19/01]

PLEASE READ POST #2 FOR UPDATES. POST #1 IS STRICTLY INSTRUCTIONS ONLY. UPDATES ARE IN POST 2. THANKS!
Okay! Time to breathe some new life into the Shift. That's right folks. OS X now runs flawlessly on the HTC Shift and graphics are running without a hitch thanks to modified GMA 950 kexts. It's nice to play around with other devices. TBH the HD2 is too plain for me atm and I'm waiting for a Desire HD build of Android for it. In the mean time, here is some darwin goodness for the worlds favourite UMPC. First of all, to answer a few questions I encountered in the other threads, OS X will run perfectly fine on the Shift. Some people are blindly saying that the 950 has issues with OS X. Guys please do some research before posting misleading information. The 950's were the original on-boards for the MacBooks. It's impossible for it not to be supported. Better, with HW Acceleration! Okay so what works and what doesn't?
Working
- GMA 950 w HW Acc.
- Camera
-Trackpad
- Keyboard
- Speakers
- 3.5mm
- Internal drive
- Ethernet/USB Expansion Hub
- Battery/Charging recognition
- Display (although I tried forcing 1024x600 it will only create a scaled view and it's not useable)
- SD Card slot
Not Working
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- Fingerprint Scanner (I'm not surprise, OS X doesn't have support for it anyway)
So almost everything works! Which is good news. I'm not sure if WiFi and bluetooth will work. Theoretically WiFi should work because the iPhone 2G and 3G use the exact same card that the Shift uses. However I need to find a way to extract the kexts from a firmware file which is proving to be difficult as Apple is now ridiculously locking down access to the images. Once I find this kext, WiFi should be a go. Bluetooth, I'm not sure about. I don't even know what stack it is so I can't look for a driver. Fingerprint scanner I'm not worried about as it proves useless most of the time anyway.
Okay so how do you get this working. Well I went through the trouble (and a majority of my download quota) to find which builds work best so you don't have to. Now don't come asking me for download links to these builds because I will NOT give them to you. Try google. Below is a rundown of the tested builds.
iAtkos 5i - Boots into verbose mode and kernel panics.
iPC - Does not boot at all. Installed netkas PCEFI - no change
XXX_10.5.6 - Boots into installer, won't run after installation
Leo4Allv3 - Boots into verbose mode and kernel panics.
Leopard 10.5.6 Pendrive - Boots perfectly to blue screen, loginwindows.app hangs
So the above builds were pretty helpless. The only ones that worked to some degree were iAtkos, XXX, and Pendrive, pendrive having the most success. Loginwindow.app was the only thing stopping boot. So I tried a number of things. First thing that comes to mind is replacing the app file. This didn't work and continued to crash. Then something else got my attention. the blue screen after the Apple logo turns black and then back to blue again. The only explanation to this would do this is that the graphics drivers were trying to load but failing. So this was a problem with the 950 kexts. The iAtkos disk came with excellent modified 950 drivers. Installing these onto the pendrive bulid solved this and it booted to the desktop. Below is the complete set of instructions to getting everything working including dual boot.
If you want dual boot working properly, I strongly recommend installing Windows first. That is, if you want to avoid a lot of hassle. Now as you may know, OS X is an HFS OS and Windows is an MBR. If you go about installing Windows on a drive with no other system on it, it is going to convert the entire partition table. This can be solved by creating two partitions under GPT. If OS X is on one partition, Windows will create a hybrid partition table. (MBR/GPT)
1) First you are going to need to find a copy of the leopard pendrive build and restore it to an external drive or usb. You are going to need access to a working hackintosh or Mac to be able to do this.
2) Once the restore is complete you need to go ahead and install the GMA950a.pkg and the GMA950b.pkg from inside the iAtkos disk. If you aren't able to find these I will attach these below.
3) Once these are installed, we are going to need a bootloader for the machine to see the drives. There is a great bootloader credits to netkas here.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zybzmmm5uyz
4) Plug in the external drive that you restored and installed these to and fire up your shift. Boot into the external drive bask in the glory of OS X. But we're not done yet.
5) Go and download IOATAFamily_ICH10 that's attached below and install it onto the boot drive. Reboot.
6) You need to head over to /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app. Now we are going to partition the internal drive and it WILL ERASE THE WINDOWS INSTALLATION. It should come up on the top left as a grey hard disk. Now you need to select the one at the very top. i.e. the parent directory. You should now have a tab labeled "Partition." Click on that an you will get a box that has your hard drive name in it. Select "Volume Scheme" -> 2 Partitions and click on the first box. On the right, name this to whatever you like. I had Macintosh HD and select the size. Make sure the Format is set to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
7) Now select the second partition and name it to something. I had Windows. Adjust the size and set it to MS-DOS (FAT). Now click options. and there will be three partition tables to choose from. Select GUID Partition Table (GPT). Click apply and this will erase the internal disk and replace it with two partitions.
8) Close disk utility and boot into your Windows disk. Install Windows onto THE WINDOWS PARTITION YOU CREATED. Not the Mac one.
9) After the install is complete, reboot into the external drive that you originally booted OS X off and open Disk Utility.
10) Now click on the Mac partition that you created in step 6 and click the restore tab. There will be two entry fields here, one called source, the other destination. Now depending on what the external drive is, it will either be an orange disk or a white disk. What you are going to do is drag the orange/white disk that you booted off into the source, and the Mac partition you created into destination. Tick the erase destination box and click restore. This will take roughly about 20 minutes.
11) When restore is complete, we have two more things left to do. We need to install the bootloader and set the partition as active. Now remember the bootloader we installed onto the external drive? All you need to do is install the same thing, but to the internal this time.
12) Almost there! Just need to mark the partition as active. I will post a screenshot incase this step is confusing. You need to go to /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app. If you are familiar with Linux, this is a piece of cake. Just type the commands below.
diskutil list
Now there should be all the attached drives listed. Take not of your internal drives now. You should see on the left, /dev/diskX (where X is a positive integer) and under that will be a hash followed by a series of sequential numbers. select the appropriate number for your internal Mac partition. Mine was disk0s2. In most circumstances, it should be disk0 that you are after as it is the main drive. Next type the command below.
sudo frisk -e /dev/rdisk0 (or whatever the 0 is meant to be in your circumstance)
Ignore the error "fdisk: could not open MBR file ..."
next type:
f X (where X is the number that was next to the partition. In my case 2, in disk0s'2'. "
then:
write (hit enter key)
y (hit enter)
exit (to quit)
I FORGOT TO ADD THIS STEP! Before rebooting, run the bootloader from http://www.mediafire.com/?zybzmmm5uyz on the newly imaged internal drive. If you do not do this, the machine will boot up to a flashing underscore. You need to do this as the boot files are not copied from the first time you do it.
Now restart the machine, pull out the external drive and boot into the internal drive. There should now be a countdown timer. Press any key to interrupt this and you will get a list of your partitions. Mac OS X and Windows. if you want to go into Windows, just select it and hit enter. Similarly for Mac.
Hope this wasn't too confusing. Running OS X on alien hardware is not an easy task and if you succeeded, consider it a great accomplishment! Any questions, just ask below. I am on school holiday at the moment so I'll have a lot more time to answer! I will post up developments on WiFi so stay tuned!
Update 21/09/10
- Bluetooth operational with generic bluetooth kext
- 1024x600 mode. I've posted again after the server overload
- Ethernet works on the external hub. Only just tried it.
- For those who are experiencing problems with apps such as iTunes not syncing with iPhones or the store, there is a fix. Open the SystemVersion.plist in /System/Library/Core Services/ and change the system version 10.5.6 to 10.5.8. This will not update the system to 10.5.8 but it will trick software update into thinking you have it so you can update the software without dramas. There isn't much difference between the two except for a few bug fixes and core frameworks. Just remember not to do the security updates or the combo update.
Great work!
Seems like a great guide. I'll surely try this as soon as I get my hands on a crapple device.
Thanks
thaihugo said:
Seems like a great guide. I'll surely try this as soon as I get my hands on a crapple device.
Thanks
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Haha! yeah i got tired of waiting around for a os x tablet. the shift is a beast.
I'm curious, why didn't you try Snow Leopard? Also, with something as non-generic as the Shift, I would have used Chameleon and went with a vanilla install so I can load each individual kext
EGOvoruhk said:
I'm curious, why didn't you try Snow Leopard? Also, with something as non-generic as the Shift, I would have used Chameleon and went with a vanilla install so I can load each individual kext
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Good questions and thankfully I have answers for you. First of all note that 10.6 is a very lean version of 10.5. The install goes down from roughly 8GB to 5.5GB. How did they do this? They removed a truckload of obsolete drivers, most of which are needed to run the shift's older hardware. Snow Leopard also requires SSE3 to boot, which the A110 doesn't support. Also, the only practical and surefire way to patch 10.6 is using NBI (netbook installer). Don't get me wrong I did try but if NBI doesn't make SL bootable, nothing will. Anyway, Snow Leopard has a 1GHz cap which is quite hard to bypass without causing stability problems. Even running Leopard on my 667 Powerbook lagged like a b**ch (excuse the language). As for chameleon. The bootloader is a pcefi/chameleon hybrid. The reason for this is that GUI chameleon caused incredible graphics issues. The drive images on boot would be multi-colored and stretched. So GUI was a no go. Vanilla worked but it didn't WORK. The whole point of vanilla is for system updates and stability increases. Unmodified kexts did nothing of the sort for the shift. For example unmodified 950 drivers caused severe disproportionality and VGA out didn't work. In fact, the modified system kexts increased stability and boot time on an ssd is roughly 25 seconds to desktop.
Did you get touch screen working ?
I have also installed 10.5.8 version I used version fromn ASUS eee 701
as you sad there is no bluetooth wifi touchscreen working...
About wifi 8686 iPhone use ARM version the driver must be rewriten to be used on our devices...
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Did you get touch screen working ?
I have also installed 10.5.8 version I used version fromn ASUS eee 701
as you sad there is no bluetooth wifi touchscreen working...
About wifi 8686 iPhone use ARM version the driver must be rewriten to be used on our devices...
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Bluetooth DOES work. Touchscreen as you said doesn't work. ARM/Intel won't matter as the kexts for peripherals are OS level not architecture level. Hence the reason a PPC kext will work on an Intel based Mac.
Do you know what kind of touch screen is used in shift ?
There are some drivers from usb touck screen maybe we can use them but I didn't find any information about shift touch screen need to see linux drivers...
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Do you know what kind of touch screen is used in shift ?
There are some drivers from usb touck screen maybe we can use them but I didn't find any information about shift touch screen need to see linux drivers...
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I'm begging to have the same question answered. I've exhausted all resistive touch drivers for OS X and none of them are working. I'm beginning to think its a prop. touch display instead. Anyway, Linux drivers wouldn't work. Darwin has almost nothing in common. The closest thing is bsd as far as OS X applications are concerned, but again, this is just a bsd flavouring and no drivers designed for bsd will work. Sure they can be ported, but it's a much quicker route if it was to be rewritten from scratch.
Do you know what interface is used for touck screen comunication ?
Maybe it can be used for tracing output data and accomodation existing driver to our needs...
And about wifi did you get any progress ?
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Do you know what interface is used for touck screen comunication ?
Maybe it can be used for tracing output data and accomodation existing driver to our needs...
And about wifi did you get any progress ?
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Touch is definitely USB based (device manager->usb hid device). WiFi is looking slim at the moment. I've gone through a few iPhone firmware files to find a suitable kext with no luck. So it is looking to be a complete rewrite of the driver which will be quite difficult as there is no support for Marvell as far as WiFi goes. Apple only ethernet by Marvell/Yukon, thus ruling out the possibility of common driver properties between other kexts.
Just in reply to a post before the server crashed. None of the touchscreen drivers worked and the panel didn't get recognised. Also the download for the resolution enabler is back up in post 2 again. And it looks like we made it on engadget. AGAIN.
Featured article on egadget congrats.
Sent from my htc hd2 using XDA App
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Featured article on egadget congrats.
Sent from my htc hd2 using XDA App
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Hahaha thanks. Its actually on a lot more now. Its almost a virus! hahaha
could you get the drivers from 10.5 and shove them into 10.6, also see if you can use the axitotron modbook drivers
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=home
i will try all of this next week, as i was about to sell my shift....
it's on marketplace here.
ayilm1 you are awesome.
shad0wfire said:
could you get the drivers from 10.5 and shove them into 10.6, also see if you can use the axitotron modbook drivers
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=home
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Yeah mate. that did cross my mind until i realised axiotron hasn't done anything to do with Synergy touch yet, meaning no finger touch at all. It's all wacom based. Synergy will incorporate resistive with this, or maybe even capacitive, but no guarantees on it working with the shift. I have started to build a kext for it but it's really difficult when you don't even know the manufacturer of the panel you are writing the driver for! Thanks Seb, just trying to help out the xda community!
Wifi
If it uses the same wifi card as the iPhone 3G, the firmware is decryptable. Head onto the idroidproject.org forums. I spent time on there putting android onto my 3G and the wifi binary files were needed as they were copyrighted material.
If you like get back to me and I can get the binaries for you? If not it's pretty simple just requires some simple linux command line skills, which I'm
Sure you have since you undertook this project.
Anyway good luck, hope this helps with getting wifi to work!!

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