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Slowdown + Application compatibility + Defragmenting XDA2i

Hi,
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I'd be interested in everyone's comments re the slowdown caused by adding programs, and I guess others would too.
Part of it is normal caused by eating up the available memory, both storage (and ram?)
However I have found that some applications do not seem to work well on the XDA2i, even though they do actually work. The problem is that this only comes to light after a while, after you've actually shelled out the money for a product that seems fine.
I list below products that I have found work on my XDA2i and those that seem to irritate the XDA2i so that it gradually gets worse and needs a hard reset.
I have tried defragmenting, and believe that Pocket Mechanic works fine a few times then things grind to a halt.
I am not an expert, and obviously cannot prove that the products are faulty, so take what I list 'with a pinch of salt' - but it might be that others might add others or agree/disagree with my findings, and might be careful about thoughily testing before purchase.
1-Calc 2.3.1 seems fine
BIBLE WITH YOU for Pocket PC- GMPSoft seems fine.
Journal Bar seems fine
POCKET ARTIST seems fine
Pocket Controller- Professional 5.04 seems fine
POCKET DVD WIZARD seems fine
Pocket Streamer Pro seems fine
PocketBible - NIV Version by Laridian seems fine
RESCO EXPLORER 2005 seems fine
TCPMP (The Core Media Player) (freeware) seems fine
MTUX RingToneX - Ringtone Coloring 2.1 not sure about this
DVD to Pocket PC for me was problematic after version 2
1-Pass - Revolutionary Security App not sure
eXPerience (Windows XP Style Interface) had this running ok but slow on XDA2 but not tested on XDA2i
File Transfer Anywhere(PPC Anywhere) 3.01. Tried trial period but didn't like it.
iLOCK e-wallet password manager 1.0.1 had this running ok but slow on XDA2 but not tested on XDA2i
POCKET TV ENTERPRISE worked fine up to version 1.2 on my XDA2i
Pocket Mechanic. Not sure. I bought it to defrag XDA2i and storage. Found that after a few times the system slows down and needs to be restored.
TV Remote commander. Not sure about the usefulness because Very limited range.
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andromeda9,
try using Tweaks2K2.NET. quite amazing tweaking software. can speed up your display. i can feel the speed different.....

Tweaks2k2net
Thanks Clustered.
I've downloaded the trial. What settings worked best for you?

Under Video, I tick the Speed Up Display.

Thanks the display is quicker...
Thanks for the tip...
The display is quicker.
It seems overkill to go for Tweaks2K2 but just for one display fix, and the Date/time on the bar (I love it!) so is there anything else you might recommend?
Thanks

just try yourself....maybe you will like others.....

Ok.
Appreciate your help.

I removed O2 Active and the XDA2i is about 10 times quicker and more reliable now.
This is how I removed O2 active:
1) Use file explorer to navigate to: my device>windows>startup.
2) Move the file called connections to another folder.
3) Navigate to: my device>windows>fonts.
4) Rename the "xpdr_02" file to "xpdr_021".
5) Soft reset your phone.
6) Go to: Settings>system>remove programs.
7) Uninstall O2 active. You may get a message saying that certain dll files are in use in windows directory- simply use file explorer to rename these files and try again. Rename them back afterwards.
8) Use file explorer to navigate to: my device>windows>fonts.
9) Rename the "xpdr_021" file back to "xpdr_02".
10) Navigate to: my device>windows>mobile solutions.
11) Cut and paste this folder to your built in storage
12) Soft reset the phone.

Thanks Hedley!

Hedley,
:?:
I just thought of a question re your unistall procedure.
After unistall, can you change 'profile' in order not to cause problems on aircraft?
In Active, I quite liked the simplicity of the email setup. I suppose once it's installed it is not neccessary, but did you find / is there anything else likely to be needed after removing?
Thanks

It is definately Faster!!
I am impressed with this one, my XDAIIi is definately a lot faster!
Cheers for that! :lol:

Airplane trips?
andromeda9 said:
Thanks Hedley!
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Hi Hedley,
:?:
I'm thinking about what you describe, maybe migfht trial it over Christmas... but once Active is uninstalled can you tell me how I might cope with Airplane travel?
i.e. can you turn off the 'airplane' parts? because obviously just shutting down the XDA leves it actively listening.#
Thanks

"Flight" mode
You can enable flight mode (turn off mobile receiver) by tapping the reception icon on the top bar. In the bubble that appears, there is a link to "Turn on flight mode" / "Turn off flight mode"
The piece of software I really miss in the O2 active is the "profile" stuff, which unless I'm blind isn't in the 2003 OS. For example: normal, work, silent, noisy etc
I wouldn't manually uninstall the Active rubbish - do a corporate install instead. If you have to manually delete locked files etc etc you're asking for trouble later.

Thanks MMM
Thanks for the information and tips.
What is a corporate install - I am not familar with the term.

thorneh said:
7) Uninstall O2 active. You may get a message saying that certain dll files are in use in windows directory- simply use file explorer to rename these files and try again. Rename them back afterwards.
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Goto Start->Settings->Today->Items and uncheck the ones O2 puts on there (can't think off hand which ones they are!) this stops the dll in use messages.
mmm_ok said:
I wouldn't manually uninstall the Active rubbish - do a corporate install instead. If you have to manually delete locked files etc etc you're asking for trouble later.
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The only problem with the corporate install I found, was it didn't setup the O2 GPRS and MMS settings before finishing device setup, I had a pain setting them up manually, and when I finally managed it, they didn't work 100% (or maybe it was i didn't trust my work 100%!)
You can invoke a corporate install by selecting it when it asks if you are a personal or corporate user. it'll ask you for a password, which is 0506 if memory serves me correct.

Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?

Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?
And which applications do you like?

C_shekar - I think you need some investigation which kind of soft user needs.
So let us post our vision of required soft preinstalled in ROM.
as far as I understand we taking about freeware.
My List:
1. Touch flo (if there are any possibility)
2. Dict
3. Alreader light 2\Hali reader
4. Total Commander Mobile
5. TCMP
6. Pdf - viewer
7. WM5-storage
8. Some sort of timer.
9. ICQ application (qip for example)
10. Gsplayer
11. Rar mobile

1. No RAM disk
2. 24MB Pagepool
3. TouchFlo

I think the ROM should stay clean, so the user can decide what apps he wants to add.
I think one can only add the HTC home tab thingie!
Cheers

divocak
no ram disk ??
man are you mad ?
for what reason you need all amount of RAM ?
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
But I`ve agree to save some extra mem by lowering page poll. (I think 16 mb will be ok )

No, just leave the pagepool at 32 as I think it's neccessary to keep the Rom goes fast. No more software should be added I hope 'cause users can add them in later on. Just all the important fixes and patches. And that's all. Anyone want to personalize the ROM can do that by creating an extendedRom in their SD, is it, so just try to keep the version pure (one of the best exapmle is buzz 3.33). But, the ROMs that personalized before by certain developers are appreciated as well.

obaz said:
divocak
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
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Oh i dont know that - i think that ram-disk is only for storage. thanx for info.

I agree. The upgrade rom should be a clean one so a person can choose exactly what software they require and will use. We must also remember that we all use our PPC for different reasons so there will never be a rom with software we all want or need.

Clean and Clear
Hello!!! Yes I think the WM6 should be clean version, if someone wants to install apps they can do so. The reason to keep the clean version is to make the device run faster.
Although there should be a clean version but also there should be a choice of software (seprately given). If need be people can install them on their Device.
Kind Regards
Jay

removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty

some softwares are necessary...
because not all of Himalaya users are goood at play the phone,they need it quick and all-in-one.
may be we can cook 2 ROMs,one clean version of WM6 and one with extra applications

Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
Kind Regards
Jay

very very clean please
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).

Maggy said:
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
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Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay

jaytheguru said:
But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Personally, I don't think so.
If one wouls want to install some software (common used, for example) he would install it in storage mem. And I could make it into rom instead.
If you don't want to use it - just don't use it
One day we would make a kitchen - and then all could make their own personal rom.
Personally, I can tell you that I'm going to release a clean and speed tweaked rom - once, and then I'm going to start releasing my personalized one.

It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess

bearshare said:
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
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yes..i agree with you

jaytheguru said:
Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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I wanted to give insight in how I use my Hima, it is by no means a wish list for a personalised ROM. (although volunteers are welcome to cook one for me ;-)
I hope others will give similar insight in their uses.
When I flashed to WM5 I thought I was using a clean ROM. It did come with Powerpoint and Exell, IMHO a waste of space. It didn't come with a working smartdial and it took me a full day to find a smartdial that works on one of my Hima's but not on another almost identical Hima. IMHO an awful waste of time unless you like to reinvent the wheel.
I've seen discussions in other threads about what they do/do not call a "clean" ROM. IMHO a clean ROM should offer as much basic functionality as possible. I believe Smartdial is one of these basic functions.
But every piece of software that you can find elsewhere, like Powerpoint and Exell should in my opinion be left out of the clean ROM, right?
A kitchen would be a good idea. A kitchen with a clear step by step manual that any noob can follow would be even nicer. Perhaps such kitchens were around before the ftp site closed, I'm only here regularly since a week or two.
I downloaded two files with the word kitchen in its name and unfortunately neither explained to me how to use it.

Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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You r absloutly right

Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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I can't agree with you any more

Essential processes for AT&T Tilt Users after each rom flash

Essential processes for AT&T Tilt Users after each rom flash
I know this has been mentioned thousands of times throughout this forum yet n00bs often need assistance fixing their hardware keyboards, email, HTC weather, quick gps, and so on after they flash a new rom for the first time.
While hanging out in Bansville for a couple of days I realized I have been answering the same questions continuously. This is a mini text tutorial, which offers simple fixes for imperative AT&T settings.
So you installed a version of hardspl, flashed a new rom, and performed a hard reset. What next? Well primarily in all probability, you want to make sure the clock settings are in am and pm format and the date is set to m/d/y. To change your clock settings follow this navigation
Start>settings>system>regional settings>time tab>time style drop down set to h:mm:ss tt
To change your date setting:
Start>settings>system>regional setting>date tab> select the date style of your choosing and select ok.
Next, I like to restore my files such as my appointments, contacts, text messages, etc. I personally prefer to use PimBackup. Below is a .zip file for PPCPimBackup. It is an uncomplicated program to use and a lecture is unnecessary to navigate throughout this application, as it is straightforward.
After I restore my files, it is time to inaugurate the Tilt keyboard fix, which repairs your slide-out QWERTY keys to be mapped correctly. For example, without this fix Fn+W will appear as ! opposed to @. Below is the cab file you need to install to remap the keys appropriately. Following the installation of this cab file, perform a soft reset.
The next thing I usually do is correct my connection settings. First, I install ATT_Settings.cab, which you can find below. Then I navigate to the following:
Start>settings>connections>connections>select the advanced tab>select networks>Change both drop downs to Media Net> select edit on both drop downs>proxy settings tab>uncheck everything for both media nets that you changed>then hit ok or x when you are finished.
At this time, I set up my email. However, remember NOT to save your password, you will do this in the following step. If you are using HTC HOME, most likely you are, select the little envelope and create a new account. You can find your email settings by using google if you are using pop3 or whatever.
Next, after I set up my email without saving the password, I install removehiddenproxy.cab, which you can find below. This cab file is important as it allows your pop3 email account’s password to save without adding extra characters, allows for your quickgps to function properly each time, and it also allows you to use HTC Home Weather without getting a connection failure. So install this cab then go back to the email you just set up, edit the account setup, enter your password, and save it. Now, go back to your today screen and tap your weather tab. Now tap Select City and select your city (*Note there are a few patches available to select your town if you do not live in a big city). Anyhow, notice the menu button where your right softkey is, select menu and turn your temperature scale to Fahrenheit and select done.
I suggest setting up your WiFi at this time too.
Well this is my mini tutorial for a basic setup on your AT&T Tilt after you flash a new rom.
Have Fun Flashing and Take Care.
*Special thanks to the creators of these cab files and JimmyMcgee for teaching me the basics.

Am I missing something too?
Is there something to do regarding getting a reasonable GPS fix after flashing newer 6.1 roms or is it a known problem. I keep flashing down to older 6.0 roms with 1.27.14.09 radio because of the faster GPS fix. I would love to use the newer roms but GPS fix time is a deal breaker for me. To save you some time I use SPL 3.28 with 6.0 roms and 3.56 with 6.1 roms. I bounce between Q-mobile and RomEos roms now that we lost dutty. Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom

*cough* sticky

AWESOME. I keep saying I need to: Start fresh, get NetCF 3.5, get a light rom. But it all seems so complicated to go from current configuration to start over completely, but this will help a lot! Thanks! Now to find the time and the 'right' ROM.

Thanks very much for the reminders, and for the CABs. I flashed my first 6.1 ROM last night, and forgot all about the hidden proxy!
I agree that this really needs to be a sticky...

This is a good tutorial, but here is a good side note to add.
By removing the hidden proxy (which ya do with the removehiddenproxy cab), Tilt users won't be able to get to media net (http://device.home or http://home) or cingular video as the hidden proxy is needed for those.

Then they should just use the Restore Proxy, and that will allow MEdiaNet.
Proxy Manager has both in it.

myteematt said:
Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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Did you try 1.71.09.01 ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410953
Been having the same issue and finally I think got a break. Tried about 10 SR's and the lock times are steady inside the house.
BTW using DK2

does windows mobile have a localhost file like windows? would remapping those to their needed servers allow the bypassing of the proxy?

mbarvian said:
*cough* sticky
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+1.
Nice tutorial

I downloaded your PPCPimBackup zip file but when I attempted to open it I received the following prompt: "The central directory was not located . . ." etc.
Thanks for the post BTW. Very helpful and informative.

the Dragon said:
I downloaded your PPCPimBackup zip file but when I attempted to open it I received the following prompt: "The central directory was not located . . ." etc.
Thanks for the post BTW. Very helpful and informative.
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you were unable to open the zip file? I'll check it out and reupload it if necessary.
edit: works ok here my friend. Unzip the file to your desktop and move it to your storage card then run the program hopefully it works for you.

myteematt said:
Is there something to do regarding getting a reasonable GPS fix after flashing newer 6.1 roms or is it a known problem. I keep flashing down to older 6.0 roms with 1.27.14.09 radio because of the faster GPS fix. I would love to use the newer roms but GPS fix time is a deal breaker for me. To save you some time I use SPL 3.28 with 6.0 roms and 3.56 with 6.1 roms. I bounce between Q-mobile and RomEos roms now that we lost dutty. Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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I deserved the brief ban.
Anyhow, I noticed that when running 6.1 roms with the Tilt you need an application such as HTC GPS Tool or GPS Test, to open your internal gps, prior to opening your GPS Software.
These are the steps I use to utilize a GPS Fix after each soft reset:
1) download latest updates for quickgps
2) Open GPS Tool>com 4>baud 4800>Hot Start>Then click Open and wait like 30 seconds
3) Open TT7
*If you fail to get a fix after following these steps close all programs and repeat. Eventually you should be getting fixes within seconds.
I've attached GPS Tool for you, good luck.

What exactly does the remove hidden proxy cab do on AT&T Tilts? If you go into your connection settings and uncheck the proxy server- is that the same thing or something different than the cab file does?

Hey Red,
I attached an ATT settings cab which does not enable the proxy by default, and also enableds creation mode in MMS settings. I thought it might be helpful for your thread here. Also, it may seem too advanced for beginners, but i have a thread started here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418468
This has a step by step guide to how to create an xml file using Schap's Advanced Config 3.0, which can be used to provision all of your advanced config preferences during your UC setup. This tool has really made it very easy to do reduce the amount of work that goes into flashing.
I also attached a cab for total commander, a free, more full featured file explorer; gps test, another gps tool; and advanced config 3.0. Hope it helps.

Thanks... this is a great thread!!!

SaltyDawg said:
What exactly does the remove hidden proxy cab do on AT&T Tilts? If you go into your connection settings and uncheck the proxy server- is that the same thing or something different than the cab file does?
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I'd really like to know this too!

Why would anyone ever want the proxy checked? Does it do something for you to have it checked?

sinning said:
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I'd really like to know this too!
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It removes a HIDDEN proxy, one that you can't remove without a cab. Without it enabled you can't connect to medianet home, and some other things. Most users like to disable it for a myriad of reasons, one of which is that it causes you to be unable to browse while connected to your laptop.
The box that you check in connections is a separate issue, and i think that is actually just old settings, i'm not sure, since even on the AT&T website it tells you no not to have that checked.

scotchua said:
It removes a HIDDEN proxy, one that you can't remove without a cab. Without it enabled you can't connect to medianet home, and some other things. Most users like to disable it for a myriad of reasons, one of which is that it causes you to be unable to browse while connected to your laptop.
The box that you check in connections is a separate issue, and i think that is actually just old settings, i'm not sure, since even on the AT&T website it tells you no not to have that checked.
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Awesome. So, if I run the cab and remove the hidden proxy- can I then tether my laptop (connect to the net using the Tilt's data)- without getting caught by AT&T? Or is there more to tethering without getting caught?

What apps would users like/not like in a ROM

Title says it all!
I popped both the new sub-forums' thread cherries

Well of the app I have installed I would definitely keep Batti, Google maps, WM6 RDP and Xperia tweak.
Me likey

i use
fring
Skype
SPB Backup
SPB Travel
Coreplayer
Igo8
Resco File Explorer
Xperia Tweak
Touchpal
and Virtual Pool mobile
that is what i install and where i will stay

I'd like
Quick menu
Total commander
.net 3.5 and .netcfg
flashlite 3.1
s2v (with permission obviously)
TF3d
WKTask
fdcsoft taskmanager (and defaults for regedit etc set up)
SKTSync

look this video with touchflow3d in action (I want this app)
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/11/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-touchflo-3d-demo-video/

Fidalgos said:
look this video with touchflow3d in action (I want this app)
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/11/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-touchflo-3d-demo-video/
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we already have that, Im using it now.

Working Flash (for youtube and stuff)
A youtube app
Total commander
Coreplayer
TF3d

Latest Opera Mobile 9.5
Flash support
Total Commander
TouchFlo3D
Battery Meter or changed battery icons (e.g. FInixNOver's)
crap removed (trailers, sample albums, etc)
Google Maps, GMail 2.0 java app, Opera Mini 4.1 java app
Skype
PocketRAR

No apps what-so-ever, just a basic, base rom, that includes a folder full of cabs, with a launcher than allows you to select which cabs to install.
Flash the new rom, then manually exec the launcher, put ticks next to the apps you want, networks you want setup etc, then hit the go button and sit back while your device gets only the stuff you actually want installed.
Thats my ideal!
Nigel

veletron said:
No apps what-so-ever, just a basic, base rom, that includes a folder full of cabs, with a launcher than allows you to select which cabs to install.
Flash the new rom, then manually exec the launcher, put ticks next to the apps you want, networks you want setup etc, then hit the go button and sit back while your device gets only the stuff you actually want installed.
Thats my ideal!
Nigel
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Seconded! I like to choose!

just a plain basic rom with basic utilities like CE commander, network wizard, java, mms, enlarge start menu. No trial (spb-something), no beta (tf3d... I can update myself tnx ), nothing

THJahar said:
Seconded! I like to choose!
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Thirded

veletron said:
No apps what-so-ever, just a basic, base rom, that includes a folder full of cabs, with a launcher than allows you to select which cabs to install.
Flash the new rom, then manually exec the launcher, put ticks next to the apps you want, networks you want setup etc, then hit the go button and sit back while your device gets only the stuff you actually want installed.
Thats my ideal!
Nigel
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Actually this is a cracking idea!

guru_fordy said:
Actually this is a cracking idea!
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I agree. No panels either. Completely basic.
*I'm still waiting for flah 9-10 support but I doubt that is going to happen anytime soon.

THJahar said:
Seconded! I like to choose!
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I forth....this needs to be done...
who's the top rom specialist... i need some help on a projevt.
i call it...
Operation Panelstine Freedom...
Panels running touch hd

A workin skyfire because we need a full functional webbrowser

ROTFLMAO
harvsingh said:
I forth....this needs to be done...
who's the top rom specialist... i need some help on a projevt.
i call it...
Operation Panelstine Freedom...
Panels running touch hd
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ROTFL! "Panelstine"! MUHAHAHA...
The idea for the basic ROM with separate CAB folder sounds great.
I'm also a big fan of Windows Side Show, if you haven't seen it yet you should definitely sheck it out. It's an app using BlueTooth to control your Vista machine, e.g. Windows Media Player, PowerPoint, Outlook, Facebook, etc. Very cool app I must say, but if the basic ROM will get cooked I can install that again myself.

As well as also liking to choose! I would also like to see Remote Sim Access for connection to certain handsfree car kits...

This notion of installing cabs after the flash is all well and good but they will take up storage space, you can't install them to the rom after the flashing procedure so they need to be built in before the flashing procedure to get them into the rom space, maybe one day there'll be a simple chooser to allow people to build their own roms but it's still a long way off..
There is a system to allow people to install their own cabbed software automatically it's called UC and developed by Sleuth255 there's a config builder for it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371832
the rom needs to be built as UC compliant to do this but that's not hard.
The Rom has 512mb of space, this can't be used after a rom has been flashed, so unless you fill it with applications it's going to remain empty and be wasted. it shouldn't be used for apps that get updated regularily 'cos that's a pain to overwrite, or commercial apps 'cos that restricts what people can use.
IMHO It's better to have all the essential apps (and things like tf3d) built into the rom and save the 256mb of storage for apps that are updated frequently or commercial stuff.

Hi
I see what you mean, but given that the X1 has loads of storage, I cant see post install of apps being an issue. You would have to install every app on the planet to fill 256MB? Apps that have huge requirements (tom-tom etc) would just use the SD card?
Additionally, this would mean that those apps had an entry in 'remove programs' and thus could be easily upgraded when new ones came out - or removed if no longer required. Also, you would not need to flash a new rom just to get the latest TF3D installed.
Personally, I just don't have the time to re-flash more than once every 6 months - it takes too long to get the device back into a state where its usable again.
I think this convenience is a small price to pay for under utilising the 512MB of ROM.
Nigel

i00 ROM (GPS+Phone+Mic+MMS) Updated 9/3/2009

Ok just cooked this up over the weekend .. still needs a little tweaking and testing - is the first ROM that I have released - I think it is kinda clean
Feedback is much appriciated (as always) ... and let me know if you find any bugs
BTW I read somewhere that it is possible to increase SnapVue's RAM to 64 MBs - sounds like a load of * to me ... but let me know if you know how to do this as it is really SnapVue's downfall IMHO
... I will also post some screen shots when I get the chance (is kinda late here atm)
... basically these are the specs:
Initial Release (8/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~15MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~20MBs
Based on thaihugo's kitchen ROM
New input methods:
Full QWERTY (nicer and easier to input than the built in one)
Software included:
Office Mobile
Remote Desktop
Pictures and videos
Notes
Pocket Internet Explorer
Live/Messenger
Windows Media Player
Restored Today Items
Internet Sharing
Liberated
Opera Browser (Full)
MS Voice Command (Pre setup to read email subjects)
NET Compact Framework 3.5
Network Plugin
HTC Task Manager 2
HTC GPS Tool
SIM Manager
Task Manager
USB Tool
Automatically deletes Opera cache, PIE cache Temp folder and Google Maps cache each startup
Various registry tweaks... eg:
No SMS notification
Cleartype
Phone stuff removed since there is no phone functionality ... yet
The link is attached in the text document so I can see how many ppl download it
Note: you can free up alot of space by removing MS Voice Command from the cook - and save about 4 MBs of RAM by disabling it - It is important for me to be able to 'hear' my emails come in while I am at work though so this has been put in
However the overall stability of the ROM has been sacrificed in doing so -
To disable: Start > Settings > Voice Command > Uncheck Enabled
WARNING - IF PROGRAMS CLOSE UNEXPECTEDLY: This is because your low on RAM - you can stop the Voice Commander service as stated above, or download advanced config and prevent HTC Task Manager from closing apps automatically when low on RAM
Update (10/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~16 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~22.5 MBs (and 27.95 total user area)
Ripped out more from the stock ROM to free up some more space (bluetooth functionality etc since the snap view side can not see bluetooth anyway etc.)
Increased ROM stability and freed up some more ram by removing unnecessary services.
New registry tweaks:
Changed default area code to nothing
Added email and and txt msg sound notifications
Update (18/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~19.58 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~28.84 MBs (and 32.32 total user area)
Changes:
Ripped out even more from the ROM
REMOVED OPERA (download it from one of the other threads if you want it back - I use the Windows side for surfing the net)
Changed splash screen
Added i00 Reg Edit 0.99 B (my own registry editor made especially for my ROM - will be released soon in a separate thread)
Update (2/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~16.78 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~27.53 MBs (and 30.82 total user area)
Changes:
Comm Manager now works
Phone and Mic functionality now works
Added New Radio and SPL to the Flash so that n00be's don't brick their device
Screen rotation setting removed as it was buggy
Replaced Soft Reset with custom one so that the user is now prompted to confirm that they want to restart
Updated HTC GPS Tool
Help in start menu is now not empty
GPS Router Added
Internet Sharing moved to System folder
Media player removed
WM6 (NOT HTC) Task Manager Removed
Update (3/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~17.25 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~27.73 MBs (and 31.07 total user area)
Changes:
Voice Command now announces incoming calls by default
Remote Desktop put back in
IE defaults to high resolution
Speakerphone cannot be disabled on the phone now (there is no built in speaker so you could not hear the other caller when the speakerphone was disabled)
Ripped some unnecessary stuff from various places
Update 20090307 (7/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: 17.09 MBs (Taken from HKCU\Performance\ after 2nd boot)
Free Storage after hard reset: 27.77 MBs (and 31.07 total user area) (Free storage taken after 2nd boot)
Changes:
.Net apps now work for apps not in the Windows directory
Update 20090309 (9/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: 16.1 MBs (Taken from HKCU\Performance\ after 2nd boot)
Free Storage after hard reset: 25.83 MBs (and 29.45 total user area) (Free storage taken after 2nd boot)
Changes:
MMS intergrated into ROM
Known issues:
MMS recording voice note does not work
I now accept donations so please donate a beer if you like this ROM .
In the purpose section tell me that it's for i00 ROM and if you want me to list you below and if you want your donation amount to be shown.
Donations: (As of 22/5/2009)
$15 markus1983
Total $150 (6)
Current downloads: 1429 + text document download count (uploaded new text document and it cleared the count!)

OK here a few screen shots as promised

Common Questions
OK thought I'd put together a list of common questions that people have with this ROM to stop me answering the same questions again and again.
Q: What else is included in the Flash
A: Besides the OS the ROM includes Hard SPL and Radio 1.27.35.28
Q: Can I run this ROM on
A: Besides the OS the ROM includes Hard SPL and Radio 1.27.35.28
Q: How do I install this ROM?
A: Well if you have used custom ROMs in the Past you can just download and run the EXE - else you will have to "Liberate" your shift - connect it to your Vista side with USB Tools and then run the EXE
Q: How do I disable T9
A: Open the input options for the Full QWERTY Keyboard - Click T9 Settings then un-check all the checkboxes
Q: The WM side turns off and will not come back on
A: If this happens to you go to ( on the WM side) Settings > Connections > USB to PC application and tick "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" (thanks nbos04)
A2: You can also disable (Under Settings>Power>Advanced) the option to turn off the device when it is not used for X.
Q: Programs keep closing unexpectedly
A: You may be low on RAM - if this is the case you may want to kill the Voice Command Service, as this takes up to 4MBs of RAM constantly
Q: How can I change the Keyboard Language?
A: The registry setting for the keyboard layout is as follows HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang; The complete list of values to enter can be found here; however not all are fully compatible with the Windows Mobile platform; also changing these key mappings will not change the large on screen keyboard - to change the on screen one you will need to either edit the eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt file (advanced but allows for custom layouts); or download another layout from here.
I will consider including the additional on screen keyboard languages in future releases.
Q: How do I set the data connection on the W/M side to auto - disconnect as it drains the battery too quickly?
A: The registry setting for the to auto disconnect the data connection is at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings. In there you have the setting CacheTime this is the number of seconds that will elapse before auto disconnection the data connection when not in use; change this as appropriate. You will also need to turn on the auto disconnection by editing the SuspendResume to read: GPRS_bye_if_device_off
(Note: if the auto disconnection still does not work make sure that you are not constantly connected to data - ie. Exchange server set to receive items as they arrive)

*Reserved 3*

Congrats on your rom. Looks heavy.
There is no way to get 64 mb of ram as this is the current chipset capacity, without OS loaded.
44Mb is my maximum storage available (with a functionning system of course)
I'm waiting for the new base with phone to work from there.

thaihugo said:
Congrats on your rom. Looks heavy.
There is no way to get 64 mb of ram as this is the current chipset capacity, without OS loaded.
44Mb is my maximum storage available (with a functionning system of course)
I'm waiting for the new base with phone to work from there.
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Yea like I said it sounded like a load of * -ahh well - plan to re-release this ROM when the phone is hacked too!

I love this sort of ROM - stuffed full of goodies. It's like a Christmas treat.
I've installed the ROM just now and it's exactly how I would want the WM side to be. Thanks for setting up Opera for us layabouts that can't be bothered to
I have syncd the ROM with my huge Outlook file and it works great.
Will give you more feedback as I play.
Latest:
I'm very happy with Opera.
Haven't worked out how to disable T9 yet to set up email etc.
I can't install youtubeplay I'm getting an error. Anyone know how to get it working on this ROM?
Very Latest: I found the option to disable T9 under the keyboard options. I love the new large on-screen keypad!
I prefer the fancy calculator of Gullum's ROM IMHO.

Flanimal said:
I love this sort of ROM - stuffed full of goodies. It's like a Christmas treat.
I've installed the ROM just now and it's exactly how I would want the WM side to be. Thanks for setting up Opera for us layabouts that can't be bothered to
I have syncd the ROM with my huge Outlook file and it works great.
Will give you more feedback as I play.
Latest:
I'm very happy with Opera.
Haven't worked out how to disable T9 yet to set up email etc.
I can't install youtubeplay I'm getting an error. Anyone know how to get it working on this ROM?
Very Latest: I found the option to disable T9 under the keyboard options. I love the new large on-screen keypad!
I prefer the fancy calculator of Gullum's ROM IMHO.
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I will install the calc skin from my touch pro and see how that runs - also will rip some more "unnecessary" stuff out such as bluetooth since it doesn't work anyway and will hopefully free up some memory too

As for you tube you could download the diamond/touch pro version here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395338
don't know if it works but judging by my touch pro the interface only works in Portrait (it may still work but will load in portrait)
as for the calc skin i have attached it to this post with a screen shot
will also post a newer version of my ROM, later tonight, that has ~22.5 MBs of free space (and 27.95 total user area) after boot and ~16 MBs of free ram ... seems to be more stable also
may embed the calc skin into later builds ... but it's a little big for my tastes for something i don't use

Thanks i00.
I agree that the default calculator is best now that I have seen the memory requirements of the fancy calculator skin.
Thanks for the youtubeplayer link. I haven't tried it yet but will do so this evening.
I'm having a bizzare problem setting up my email accounts for some reason. It is tricky entering my username and password, and when I try to auto detect the account configuration it says it cannot connect. When I go BACK, the password field contains more characters than I originally entered. I haven't tried manually setting up the full account yet, but this behaviour I haven't seen before.
I haven't worked out how to get the voice control goodies working yet but I'll enjoying tryin all of that out this week. I wouldn't miss voice control at all on your next ROM release however.
Edited:
Comm Manager under SnapVue Settings seems to run without displaying anything. I hope that can be fixed...
Looking forward to your next ROM release. Hope it is soon... your's is the best ROM yet IMHO.
Thanks again.
Updated.
Have been using the new ROM and am happy to report that it is notably more responsive and faster.
I was delighted to find screen orientation option for portrait under settings, so thanks for that. Although I did manage lose the start menu at some point so I was stuck on the Snapvue page and was forced to reboot from Vista. I'll let you know the details if I repeat it.
The modem is totally stable, which is great. I didn't manage to work out how to install youtubeplay but it's no showstopper, I'm very please with the ROM. I installed fexploreext which is small but infinitely useful.
Ta.

Will try to post a new release before Wed next week ... any suggestions for the new release? - I am considering taking out Opera Full and loading Opera mini instead as it requires less RAM.
Am also making a registry editor that I plan to include in the next release.
Let me know if you (anyone) has any requests.
Kris

hmmmm, any chance to have some kind of manila 2D on it?

erezj said:
hmmmm, any chance to have some kind of manila 2D on it?
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hrm dont think that M2D works to well in landscape ... if i am wrong let me know
Kris

hey kris, you could be right.
how about that pointUI thingy from the dev forum? can it work?
i want to have somthing else for a change then the snapveiw/htc home .... hellp me ;-)

Hi everyone,
I'd really like to test this ROM but each time I launch le Custom RUU with this ROM, it ends uo with an "ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR"
Is there a special thing to do to use this ROM ?

snorlax said:
Hi everyone,
I'd really like to test this ROM but each time I launch le Custom RUU with this ROM, it ends uo with an "ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR"
Is there a special thing to do to use this ROM ?
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Have you installed a custom rom onto your device before?
You need to Hard SPL on it prior to trying to flash this ROM
The error codes are listed here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/windows-mobile-faq/13329-ruu-errors.html
This page states
ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR
This error occurs during the CE ROM code upgrade process.
Solution: If this happens, you can just soft-reset the device and run RUU again. The update process will then continue.
Note: At this stage, the Wince is destroyed; instead, it is in upgrade mode.
I would try again and if that doesn't work
Download another RUU

I think that's my problem : I've only liberated the ROM shipped with my Shift.
I found the thread with Hard SPL... I've install it... Now's the ROM turn !
Thanks for the help !

snorlax said:
I think that's my problem : I've only liberated the ROM shipped with my Shift.
I found the thread with Hard SPL... I've install it... Now's the ROM turn !
Thanks for the help !
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So did the ROM flash since u Hard SPLed? - and let me know what u think.
Also nice dog btw

going to try it
I have tried thai hugos and gullims and been disappointed with various things so i'm goign to try yours. I was intending to try to install my tiny kensington mouse which is bluetooth and worked with my advantage but if you've ripped BT out I can't is there a way to put it back in?
Thw worst thing i found about the other rom's is the fact stoopid usb tool never stays connected, anyone else have that issue?
edit: found some stuff about usb tool issues on the forum and trying those.

i00 said:
So did the ROM flash since u Hard SPLed? - and let me know what u think.
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Yes, the "flashing process" worked perfectly... but I was a bit disappointed with the fact that the ActiveSync process was unable to complete the update of my 325 contacts : it always failed after 116 contacs updated...
So I tried a french ROM (the "French light GPS" one) and it worked...
Maybe a language issue...
If you want me to go back to your ROM and work together to sort this out, I'd be pleased to help...
i00 said:
Also nice dog btw
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Thank's... it's my real dog...when she was young of course !