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Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?

Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?
And which applications do you like?

C_shekar - I think you need some investigation which kind of soft user needs.
So let us post our vision of required soft preinstalled in ROM.
as far as I understand we taking about freeware.
My List:
1. Touch flo (if there are any possibility)
2. Dict
3. Alreader light 2\Hali reader
4. Total Commander Mobile
5. TCMP
6. Pdf - viewer
7. WM5-storage
8. Some sort of timer.
9. ICQ application (qip for example)
10. Gsplayer
11. Rar mobile

1. No RAM disk
2. 24MB Pagepool
3. TouchFlo

I think the ROM should stay clean, so the user can decide what apps he wants to add.
I think one can only add the HTC home tab thingie!
Cheers

divocak
no ram disk ??
man are you mad ?
for what reason you need all amount of RAM ?
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
But I`ve agree to save some extra mem by lowering page poll. (I think 16 mb will be ok )

No, just leave the pagepool at 32 as I think it's neccessary to keep the Rom goes fast. No more software should be added I hope 'cause users can add them in later on. Just all the important fixes and patches. And that's all. Anyone want to personalize the ROM can do that by creating an extendedRom in their SD, is it, so just try to keep the version pure (one of the best exapmle is buzz 3.33). But, the ROMs that personalized before by certain developers are appreciated as well.

obaz said:
divocak
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
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Oh i dont know that - i think that ram-disk is only for storage. thanx for info.

I agree. The upgrade rom should be a clean one so a person can choose exactly what software they require and will use. We must also remember that we all use our PPC for different reasons so there will never be a rom with software we all want or need.

Clean and Clear
Hello!!! Yes I think the WM6 should be clean version, if someone wants to install apps they can do so. The reason to keep the clean version is to make the device run faster.
Although there should be a clean version but also there should be a choice of software (seprately given). If need be people can install them on their Device.
Kind Regards
Jay

removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty

some softwares are necessary...
because not all of Himalaya users are goood at play the phone,they need it quick and all-in-one.
may be we can cook 2 ROMs,one clean version of WM6 and one with extra applications

Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
Kind Regards
Jay

very very clean please
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).

Maggy said:
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
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Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay

jaytheguru said:
But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Personally, I don't think so.
If one wouls want to install some software (common used, for example) he would install it in storage mem. And I could make it into rom instead.
If you don't want to use it - just don't use it
One day we would make a kitchen - and then all could make their own personal rom.
Personally, I can tell you that I'm going to release a clean and speed tweaked rom - once, and then I'm going to start releasing my personalized one.

It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess

bearshare said:
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
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yes..i agree with you

jaytheguru said:
Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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I wanted to give insight in how I use my Hima, it is by no means a wish list for a personalised ROM. (although volunteers are welcome to cook one for me ;-)
I hope others will give similar insight in their uses.
When I flashed to WM5 I thought I was using a clean ROM. It did come with Powerpoint and Exell, IMHO a waste of space. It didn't come with a working smartdial and it took me a full day to find a smartdial that works on one of my Hima's but not on another almost identical Hima. IMHO an awful waste of time unless you like to reinvent the wheel.
I've seen discussions in other threads about what they do/do not call a "clean" ROM. IMHO a clean ROM should offer as much basic functionality as possible. I believe Smartdial is one of these basic functions.
But every piece of software that you can find elsewhere, like Powerpoint and Exell should in my opinion be left out of the clean ROM, right?
A kitchen would be a good idea. A kitchen with a clear step by step manual that any noob can follow would be even nicer. Perhaps such kitchens were around before the ftp site closed, I'm only here regularly since a week or two.
I downloaded two files with the word kitchen in its name and unfortunately neither explained to me how to use it.

Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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You r absloutly right

Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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I can't agree with you any more

i00 ROM (GPS+Phone+Mic+MMS) Updated 9/3/2009

Ok just cooked this up over the weekend .. still needs a little tweaking and testing - is the first ROM that I have released - I think it is kinda clean
Feedback is much appriciated (as always) ... and let me know if you find any bugs
BTW I read somewhere that it is possible to increase SnapVue's RAM to 64 MBs - sounds like a load of * to me ... but let me know if you know how to do this as it is really SnapVue's downfall IMHO
... I will also post some screen shots when I get the chance (is kinda late here atm)
... basically these are the specs:
Initial Release (8/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~15MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~20MBs
Based on thaihugo's kitchen ROM
New input methods:
Full QWERTY (nicer and easier to input than the built in one)
Software included:
Office Mobile
Remote Desktop
Pictures and videos
Notes
Pocket Internet Explorer
Live/Messenger
Windows Media Player
Restored Today Items
Internet Sharing
Liberated
Opera Browser (Full)
MS Voice Command (Pre setup to read email subjects)
NET Compact Framework 3.5
Network Plugin
HTC Task Manager 2
HTC GPS Tool
SIM Manager
Task Manager
USB Tool
Automatically deletes Opera cache, PIE cache Temp folder and Google Maps cache each startup
Various registry tweaks... eg:
No SMS notification
Cleartype
Phone stuff removed since there is no phone functionality ... yet
The link is attached in the text document so I can see how many ppl download it
Note: you can free up alot of space by removing MS Voice Command from the cook - and save about 4 MBs of RAM by disabling it - It is important for me to be able to 'hear' my emails come in while I am at work though so this has been put in
However the overall stability of the ROM has been sacrificed in doing so -
To disable: Start > Settings > Voice Command > Uncheck Enabled
WARNING - IF PROGRAMS CLOSE UNEXPECTEDLY: This is because your low on RAM - you can stop the Voice Commander service as stated above, or download advanced config and prevent HTC Task Manager from closing apps automatically when low on RAM
Update (10/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~16 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~22.5 MBs (and 27.95 total user area)
Ripped out more from the stock ROM to free up some more space (bluetooth functionality etc since the snap view side can not see bluetooth anyway etc.)
Increased ROM stability and freed up some more ram by removing unnecessary services.
New registry tweaks:
Changed default area code to nothing
Added email and and txt msg sound notifications
Update (18/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~19.58 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~28.84 MBs (and 32.32 total user area)
Changes:
Ripped out even more from the ROM
REMOVED OPERA (download it from one of the other threads if you want it back - I use the Windows side for surfing the net)
Changed splash screen
Added i00 Reg Edit 0.99 B (my own registry editor made especially for my ROM - will be released soon in a separate thread)
Update (2/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~16.78 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~27.53 MBs (and 30.82 total user area)
Changes:
Comm Manager now works
Phone and Mic functionality now works
Added New Radio and SPL to the Flash so that n00be's don't brick their device
Screen rotation setting removed as it was buggy
Replaced Soft Reset with custom one so that the user is now prompted to confirm that they want to restart
Updated HTC GPS Tool
Help in start menu is now not empty
GPS Router Added
Internet Sharing moved to System folder
Media player removed
WM6 (NOT HTC) Task Manager Removed
Update (3/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~17.25 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~27.73 MBs (and 31.07 total user area)
Changes:
Voice Command now announces incoming calls by default
Remote Desktop put back in
IE defaults to high resolution
Speakerphone cannot be disabled on the phone now (there is no built in speaker so you could not hear the other caller when the speakerphone was disabled)
Ripped some unnecessary stuff from various places
Update 20090307 (7/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: 17.09 MBs (Taken from HKCU\Performance\ after 2nd boot)
Free Storage after hard reset: 27.77 MBs (and 31.07 total user area) (Free storage taken after 2nd boot)
Changes:
.Net apps now work for apps not in the Windows directory
Update 20090309 (9/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: 16.1 MBs (Taken from HKCU\Performance\ after 2nd boot)
Free Storage after hard reset: 25.83 MBs (and 29.45 total user area) (Free storage taken after 2nd boot)
Changes:
MMS intergrated into ROM
Known issues:
MMS recording voice note does not work
I now accept donations so please donate a beer if you like this ROM .
In the purpose section tell me that it's for i00 ROM and if you want me to list you below and if you want your donation amount to be shown.
Donations: (As of 22/5/2009)
$15 markus1983
Total $150 (6)
Current downloads: 1429 + text document download count (uploaded new text document and it cleared the count!)

OK here a few screen shots as promised

Common Questions
OK thought I'd put together a list of common questions that people have with this ROM to stop me answering the same questions again and again.
Q: What else is included in the Flash
A: Besides the OS the ROM includes Hard SPL and Radio 1.27.35.28
Q: Can I run this ROM on
A: Besides the OS the ROM includes Hard SPL and Radio 1.27.35.28
Q: How do I install this ROM?
A: Well if you have used custom ROMs in the Past you can just download and run the EXE - else you will have to "Liberate" your shift - connect it to your Vista side with USB Tools and then run the EXE
Q: How do I disable T9
A: Open the input options for the Full QWERTY Keyboard - Click T9 Settings then un-check all the checkboxes
Q: The WM side turns off and will not come back on
A: If this happens to you go to ( on the WM side) Settings > Connections > USB to PC application and tick "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" (thanks nbos04)
A2: You can also disable (Under Settings>Power>Advanced) the option to turn off the device when it is not used for X.
Q: Programs keep closing unexpectedly
A: You may be low on RAM - if this is the case you may want to kill the Voice Command Service, as this takes up to 4MBs of RAM constantly
Q: How can I change the Keyboard Language?
A: The registry setting for the keyboard layout is as follows HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang; The complete list of values to enter can be found here; however not all are fully compatible with the Windows Mobile platform; also changing these key mappings will not change the large on screen keyboard - to change the on screen one you will need to either edit the eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt file (advanced but allows for custom layouts); or download another layout from here.
I will consider including the additional on screen keyboard languages in future releases.
Q: How do I set the data connection on the W/M side to auto - disconnect as it drains the battery too quickly?
A: The registry setting for the to auto disconnect the data connection is at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings. In there you have the setting CacheTime this is the number of seconds that will elapse before auto disconnection the data connection when not in use; change this as appropriate. You will also need to turn on the auto disconnection by editing the SuspendResume to read: GPRS_bye_if_device_off
(Note: if the auto disconnection still does not work make sure that you are not constantly connected to data - ie. Exchange server set to receive items as they arrive)

*Reserved 3*

Congrats on your rom. Looks heavy.
There is no way to get 64 mb of ram as this is the current chipset capacity, without OS loaded.
44Mb is my maximum storage available (with a functionning system of course)
I'm waiting for the new base with phone to work from there.

thaihugo said:
Congrats on your rom. Looks heavy.
There is no way to get 64 mb of ram as this is the current chipset capacity, without OS loaded.
44Mb is my maximum storage available (with a functionning system of course)
I'm waiting for the new base with phone to work from there.
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Yea like I said it sounded like a load of * -ahh well - plan to re-release this ROM when the phone is hacked too!

I love this sort of ROM - stuffed full of goodies. It's like a Christmas treat.
I've installed the ROM just now and it's exactly how I would want the WM side to be. Thanks for setting up Opera for us layabouts that can't be bothered to
I have syncd the ROM with my huge Outlook file and it works great.
Will give you more feedback as I play.
Latest:
I'm very happy with Opera.
Haven't worked out how to disable T9 yet to set up email etc.
I can't install youtubeplay I'm getting an error. Anyone know how to get it working on this ROM?
Very Latest: I found the option to disable T9 under the keyboard options. I love the new large on-screen keypad!
I prefer the fancy calculator of Gullum's ROM IMHO.

Flanimal said:
I love this sort of ROM - stuffed full of goodies. It's like a Christmas treat.
I've installed the ROM just now and it's exactly how I would want the WM side to be. Thanks for setting up Opera for us layabouts that can't be bothered to
I have syncd the ROM with my huge Outlook file and it works great.
Will give you more feedback as I play.
Latest:
I'm very happy with Opera.
Haven't worked out how to disable T9 yet to set up email etc.
I can't install youtubeplay I'm getting an error. Anyone know how to get it working on this ROM?
Very Latest: I found the option to disable T9 under the keyboard options. I love the new large on-screen keypad!
I prefer the fancy calculator of Gullum's ROM IMHO.
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I will install the calc skin from my touch pro and see how that runs - also will rip some more "unnecessary" stuff out such as bluetooth since it doesn't work anyway and will hopefully free up some memory too

As for you tube you could download the diamond/touch pro version here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395338
don't know if it works but judging by my touch pro the interface only works in Portrait (it may still work but will load in portrait)
as for the calc skin i have attached it to this post with a screen shot
will also post a newer version of my ROM, later tonight, that has ~22.5 MBs of free space (and 27.95 total user area) after boot and ~16 MBs of free ram ... seems to be more stable also
may embed the calc skin into later builds ... but it's a little big for my tastes for something i don't use

Thanks i00.
I agree that the default calculator is best now that I have seen the memory requirements of the fancy calculator skin.
Thanks for the youtubeplayer link. I haven't tried it yet but will do so this evening.
I'm having a bizzare problem setting up my email accounts for some reason. It is tricky entering my username and password, and when I try to auto detect the account configuration it says it cannot connect. When I go BACK, the password field contains more characters than I originally entered. I haven't tried manually setting up the full account yet, but this behaviour I haven't seen before.
I haven't worked out how to get the voice control goodies working yet but I'll enjoying tryin all of that out this week. I wouldn't miss voice control at all on your next ROM release however.
Edited:
Comm Manager under SnapVue Settings seems to run without displaying anything. I hope that can be fixed...
Looking forward to your next ROM release. Hope it is soon... your's is the best ROM yet IMHO.
Thanks again.
Updated.
Have been using the new ROM and am happy to report that it is notably more responsive and faster.
I was delighted to find screen orientation option for portrait under settings, so thanks for that. Although I did manage lose the start menu at some point so I was stuck on the Snapvue page and was forced to reboot from Vista. I'll let you know the details if I repeat it.
The modem is totally stable, which is great. I didn't manage to work out how to install youtubeplay but it's no showstopper, I'm very please with the ROM. I installed fexploreext which is small but infinitely useful.
Ta.

Will try to post a new release before Wed next week ... any suggestions for the new release? - I am considering taking out Opera Full and loading Opera mini instead as it requires less RAM.
Am also making a registry editor that I plan to include in the next release.
Let me know if you (anyone) has any requests.
Kris

hmmmm, any chance to have some kind of manila 2D on it?

erezj said:
hmmmm, any chance to have some kind of manila 2D on it?
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hrm dont think that M2D works to well in landscape ... if i am wrong let me know
Kris

hey kris, you could be right.
how about that pointUI thingy from the dev forum? can it work?
i want to have somthing else for a change then the snapveiw/htc home .... hellp me ;-)

Hi everyone,
I'd really like to test this ROM but each time I launch le Custom RUU with this ROM, it ends uo with an "ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR"
Is there a special thing to do to use this ROM ?

snorlax said:
Hi everyone,
I'd really like to test this ROM but each time I launch le Custom RUU with this ROM, it ends uo with an "ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR"
Is there a special thing to do to use this ROM ?
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Have you installed a custom rom onto your device before?
You need to Hard SPL on it prior to trying to flash this ROM
The error codes are listed here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/windows-mobile-faq/13329-ruu-errors.html
This page states
ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR
This error occurs during the CE ROM code upgrade process.
Solution: If this happens, you can just soft-reset the device and run RUU again. The update process will then continue.
Note: At this stage, the Wince is destroyed; instead, it is in upgrade mode.
I would try again and if that doesn't work
Download another RUU

I think that's my problem : I've only liberated the ROM shipped with my Shift.
I found the thread with Hard SPL... I've install it... Now's the ROM turn !
Thanks for the help !

snorlax said:
I think that's my problem : I've only liberated the ROM shipped with my Shift.
I found the thread with Hard SPL... I've install it... Now's the ROM turn !
Thanks for the help !
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So did the ROM flash since u Hard SPLed? - and let me know what u think.
Also nice dog btw

going to try it
I have tried thai hugos and gullims and been disappointed with various things so i'm goign to try yours. I was intending to try to install my tiny kensington mouse which is bluetooth and worked with my advantage but if you've ripped BT out I can't is there a way to put it back in?
Thw worst thing i found about the other rom's is the fact stoopid usb tool never stays connected, anyone else have that issue?
edit: found some stuff about usb tool issues on the forum and trying those.

i00 said:
So did the ROM flash since u Hard SPLed? - and let me know what u think.
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Yes, the "flashing process" worked perfectly... but I was a bit disappointed with the fact that the ActiveSync process was unable to complete the update of my 325 contacts : it always failed after 116 contacs updated...
So I tried a french ROM (the "French light GPS" one) and it worked...
Maybe a language issue...
If you want me to go back to your ROM and work together to sort this out, I'd be pleased to help...
i00 said:
Also nice dog btw
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Thank's... it's my real dog...when she was young of course !

[ROM] (Phone+GPS+Vista GPS+touch)Thaihugo's shift age of reason and age of beauty

Hello,
I'm still working on the different sound topics, but here are my newest roms.
I call them age of reason and age of beauty. This is a kind of trial for the second one...
The point is that we need a rom to really use the shift possibility. We need storage space, real gps useage, and of course maximum ram.
This is the age of reason rom. The lightest possible rom, where you can add a lot of programs, more if you use UPX compression.
You need to flash the radio from the phone+gps rom before using this one.
What does it have:
42 Mb storage and 22 Mb memory free
WORK on WINMOB SIDE
All standard Winmob application (ie, notes, media player, sms, phone, gps)
Task manager to soft reset, kill process, etc...
Clear temp (as requested)
USB tools
A homemade program to switch the speaker when on call. This program is for my development my roms only, and it work as a service, so it cannot be killed by the OS.
There is a managment program to remove the service if needed.
WORK WITH VISTA
storage:
A network browser to access the vista HDD
GPS:
An automatic GPS redirection to the PC side
This program is GPS2Blue, and it is preconfigured. You just have to launch the shortcut in HTC debug tools, and setup vista to get communication.
GPS works on both side, so you can use it on Windows mobile too of course
A few words on this last program.
GPS2Blue is a program made by Paludour. You can check his website here:
http://www.paludour.net
He allowed me to add this program to my roms, as you must normally download the cab from his site. This way, I could put it preconfigured on our devices. Many thanks to him for that.
When you are connected with usbtools to vista, click on this gps2blue icon, and you can receve the gps on vista if you follow this guideline:
http://www.paludour.net/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
Just click on the gps2blue icon when you have to do the PDA side of this tutorial, the rest is aleady done.
The link for this rom is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjm0ydmmz5/Light.rar
MD5: 4c31ba01b109e22cd77bc3da53220672
Mirror:http://www.filesavr.com/light_1
Now for the other rom, the age of beauty:
This rom is the same, with one little twist: there is pointUI pre-installed.
This is a test, as I don't know if this is a good way instead of installing it afterward. Anyway, you are good for some eyecandy.
You have to pay for this: you have only 37 Mb of sorage, and 9 (yes, nine) megs of free memory after reset. But the good news is that you can disable it, and still be using the rom. So you can choose when you want eye candy, and when you want to be serious. If it is requested, I might update this one.
The link for this one is:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3zmtnyi2mjh/Full.rar
MD5:fe2a2d6592339c29c994e4a2e6638d1e
Enjoy and report here if you like it.

How to connect to vista side:
first, know the name of your shift. If you didn't change it it is SHIFT, otherwise type hostname in a command line in vista side.
then type services.msc and make sure the server service is started and set up to automatic if you want it to start every boot
Now type \\shift in your start menu. A windows must open, and you should see thinks, like Users,and printers. If not, don't worry, you can still go on. For more advanced users, it can be a good time to set up a share.
Now go on Snapvue side, and go to settings-connections-network plugin. First click on the "enable network folder" and wait for the reset.
Now, when reset is done, start usbtools to activate activesync. On vista side, make sure you are connected ( set up a partnership, or just click on connect whitout partneship. In this case, you will have to do it each time.)
Go back on Snapvue, and in network plugin click on New...
In remote path, enter \\shift\users if shift is your computername, and if you saw Users in the window on the second step.
Otherwise, you can enter \\shift\c$ to access the whole drive.
Click on map drive. Enter your username and your password (the one you use to login in vista)
Now, you can browse the pc using the network folder. You can add music to media player, browse pictures, wmv video...
You can even install some progs on vista side, but I don't recommend it. You might use it also as a data storage for SPB insight (my little baby) for example

thank you.
thaihugo said:
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PointUI 2 is good, but I liked PointUI1.5 better. If they could let us choose the search provider that would be awesome.
--Rama--

Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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The ROM looks and feels supersweet. However, if you work with it
for some time it get's laggy. No harm, we all understand it's a test.
Will play with the GPS2Blue thing to get that fixed too.

lucid said:
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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No, but I think this is going to be solved without flashing a new rom

Thanks ThaiHugo.
I preferred "age of beauty". How works the network browser to access the vista HDD? I am not able. If you can help me please.

Thanks Thaihugo, this rom is really good and a lot of free memory and storage for programs. Only problem is that when I have Vista side open gps isn't working for me. Well it is working (satellite used about 4-10) but Satellite Fixed stays 0. When I turn off vista side Satellite Fixed is after a few seconds 5-7.. I have Windows 7 build 7000 installed on vista side and Light version on snapvue side

JaWe said:
Thanks Thaihugo, this rom is really good and a lot of free memory and storage for programs. Only problem is that when I have Vista side open gps isn't working for me. Well it is working (satellite used about 4-10) but Satellite Fixed stays 0. When I turn off vista side Satellite Fixed is after a few seconds 5-7.. I have Windows 7 build 7000 installed on vista side and Light version on snapvue side
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I have the same problem, but I've had this with other roms too

Thanks for this... I do not have Auto Connection
It does not seem this new beatiful ROM has auto connection, not been able to connect WM 3g or am I missing something? Thanks

feyisetan said:
It does not seem this new beatiful ROM has auto connection, not been able to connect WM 3g or am I missing something? Thanks
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I removed automatic connection setup to save space. You need to setup your connection by yourself in settings-connections. Once done, it will connect automaticaly. Most providers can sen you a sms from their web site with connection settings.
I'm not sure you want to lose 3 megs of storage for this one time operation, do you?

Downloading the ROM
Thanks

lucid said:
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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The ROM looks and feels supersweet. However, if you work with it
for some time it get's laggy. No harm, we all understand it's a test.
Will play with the GPS2Blue thing to get that fixed too.
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If you want, you can just disable the today plugin, and you get a full working wm for when you want to be serious. And you just soft reset when you are just using it as an updated snapvue.
To disale fully pointui:
delete the shortcut in \windows\startup (start2) and disable the today plugin.
To reenable, recheck the today plugin.

your rom is the best
thaihugo said:
If you want, you can just disable the today plugin, and you get a full working wm for when you want to be serious. And you just soft reset when you are just using it as an updated snapvue.
To disale fully pointui:
delete the shortcut in \windows\startup (start2) and disable the today plugin.
To reenable, recheck the today plugin.
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Thaihugo, I love your rom very much so fast and simple,easy for install software and hope many function will be coming

added tutorial to connect the vista HDD on second post.

siriokeliang said:
Thanks ThaiHugo.
I preferred "age of beauty". How works the network browser to access the vista HDD? I am not able. If you can help me please.
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You can read my tutorial on post 2.

thaihugo said:
You can read my tutorial on post 2.
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I'll swear that I had not seen.

siriokeliang said:
I'll swear that I had not seen.
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I posted it today only, after you requested it

Installed the 'light' ROM yesterday. Works great.
Thanks again

thaihugo said:
Hello,
I'm still working on the different sound topics, but here are my newest roms.
I call them age of reason and age of beauty. This is a kind of trial for the second one...
The point is that we need a rom to really use the shift possibility. We need storage space, real gps useage, and of course maximum ram.
This is the age of reason rom. The lightest possible rom, where you can add a lot of programs, more if you use UPX compression.
You need to flash the radio from the phone+gps rom before using this one.
What does it have:
42 Mb storage and 22 Mb memory free
WORK on WINMOB SIDE
All standard Winmob application (ie, notes, media player, sms, phone, gps)
Task manager to soft reset, kill process, etc...
Clear temp (as requested)
USB tools
A homemade program to switch the speaker when on call. This program is for my development my roms only, and it work as a service, so it cannot be killed by the OS.
There is a managment program to remove the service if needed.
WORK WITH VISTA
storage:
A network browser to access the vista HDD
GPS:
An automatic GPS redirection to the PC side
This program is GPS2Blue, and it is preconfigured. You just have to launch the shortcut in HTC debug tools, and setup vista to get communication.
GPS works on both side, so you can use it on Windows mobile too of course
A few words on this last program.
GPS2Blue is a program made by Paludour. You can check his website here:
http://www.paludour.net
He allowed me to add this program to my roms, as you must normally download the cab from his site. This way, I could put it preconfigured on our devices. Many thanks to him for that.
When you are connected with usbtools to vista, click on this gps2blue icon, and you can receve the gps on vista if you follow this guideline:
http://www.paludour.net/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
Just click on the gps2blue icon when you have to do the PDA side of this tutorial, the rest is aleady done.
The link for this rom is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjm0ydmmz5/Light.rar
MD5: 4c31ba01b109e22cd77bc3da53220672
Now for the other rom, the age of beauty:
This rom is the same, with one little twist: there is pointUI pre-installed.
This is a test, as I don't know if this is a good way instead of installing it afterward. Anyway, you are good for some eyecandy.
You have to pay for this: you have only 37 Mb of sorage, and 9 (yes, nine) megs of free memory after reset. But the good news is that you can disable it, and still be using the rom. So you can choose when you want eye candy, and when you want to be serious. If it is requested, I might update this one.
The link for this one is:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3zmtnyi2mjh/Full.rar
MD5:fe2a2d6592339c29c994e4a2e6638d1e
Enjoy and report here if you like it.
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i can't download from the above link,can you upload to other site

leonlsl said:
i can't download from the above link,can you upload to other site
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It's pointless if you don't say which rom you want, and which site you can download from.

My Personal Favorite Apps/Tweaks

I thought it was about time I shared my secrets. I've thoroughly tested every app. What doesn't work well, I don't post or use. Most if not all are .cab files so installing them is a snap. Some applications do require a second program for them to run, thus it would be more convienient if you were to install them first. The two files are Adobe Flash 7, and the .NET 3.5 Framwork...
Flash 7: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/devices/pocket_pc/installers/fp7_ppc_en.cab
.NET 3.5: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
Unfortunately the .cab file is somewhat hard to find for the .net framework. The link I've inlcuded is from Microsoft and is installed from your PC. If all else fails a quick internet search for ".net compact framework cab" should get a result. Make sure you install both of these programs TO THE DEVICE.
Note...the list isn't in any order, I like them all!
FlashLIGHT
This is one of my favorite programs. It's called FlashLIGHT. It's a flash application (amusing isn't it?). It's an .exe file you copy into your programs folder under My Device>Windows>Start Menu>Programs. Then it will appear in your programs list. It's a really nice app with some really neat features...including...THE LIGHTSABER. Yes, for once, a lightsaber app for a phone without a motion sensor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458269
S2U2 (Slide to Unlock 2) and S2V (Slide to View)
Here's one that was just updated today! I really like this one just because it's really easy to use. It has full screen caller ID, SMS, MMS, and Email notifications. I would recommend you install it to the phone.
The other app that also works with S2U2 is S2V, it's a really nice photo viewer that you can also use to set the background to the today screen, contacts, and the background for portrait and landscape mode in S2U2.
More information and the links to download are at the developer's site...
http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/
Batti 2.4
This plugin is really handy. It's a battery gauge that sits at the top of the taskbar and shows graphically how much battery is left. There are like one or two other apps similar to this but this one is very customizeable. Install this one to the device.
Batti 2.4: http://batti.googlecode.com/files/Batti-2.4.zip
HTC Home Customizer
This one is kind of nice just for a change of pace. If you're like me, you got bored looking at the same plugin. Install to the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375921
StopWatch 2.2
Very nice chronograph app. Haptic feedback (vibrates when you tap the buttons), split, and alarms. You can install this to the storage card.
http://kaldma.se/programs/stopwatch/
Pencil Box
This one is really nice. This is the free version, and as you will find out, you can't save your masterpieces. I have the full version and if you're into sketching like me, it's well worth the $13. You can install this to the storage card.
Free Version: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pencil-box.html
Full Version: http://www.handango.com/catalog/ProductDetails.jsp?storeId=2218&productId=111172
Kaiser Tweak
This is a MUST for any Kaiser owner. Enable HSDPA, turn off that extremely annoying startup sound, make the keyboard faster, and much more! Make sure you do a soft reset after changing any settigns. Install this to the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=92385&d=1213369847
Well I think that about does it.
Signing off,
HTCnerd

running out of App storage

Hi,
I have had my Kaiser since it was released over 2 years ago.
I have a 8gb MicroSD that i try to install my apps onto, but i always seem to run out of 'device application storage space'
So my question is, what are you doing to stop this from happening.
Can we use this thread to create a list of apps that are best to run on the device and which ones can be run on the storage card?
Thanks
PS. im also tempted to try a different rom to increase space, any suggestions as im running the official 6.1 from my carrier.

GLO said:
Hi,
I have had my Kaiser since it was released over 2 years ago.
I have a 8gb MicroSD that i try to install my apps onto, but i always seem to run out of 'device application storage space'
So my question is, what are you doing to stop this from happening.
Can we use this thread to create a list of apps that are best to run on the device and which ones can be run on the storage card?
Thanks
PS. im also tempted to try a different rom to increase space, any suggestions as im running the official 6.1 from my carrier.
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There are a lot of good roms, just look over in the Kaiser Rom Development, read signatures to find out what a lot of people are using. Everyone has there own personal preference.
As far as what to install on SD Card and what to install on main memory, it goes kinda like this. If it is a dedicated program that you need to rely on, like G-Alarm or SPB Time for example, install it in main memory. If it is a program that runs on the today screen or in the background, install it to main memory. Programs like SPB Mobile Shell, WAD2, Palringo and other chat software can go to main memory. Anything else unless the programs says otherwise, can go on the SD Card. I always ask myself this, if my SD Card failed what are my few must have important apps that I need to make it through the rest of the day/week? I always put my entertainment crap on the SD, and only my important apps on the main storage.
Hope that steers you in the right direction.
PS: How do you have 285 post, been a member since 2007, and are still using a OEM 6.1 ROM? You are missing the good stuff my friend!

Philux-X said:
PS: How do you have 285 post, been a member since 2007, and are still using a OEM 6.1 ROM? You are missing the good stuff my friend!
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Yes, 285 posts since 07 driven by various questions and answers for others.
Rom swapping was limited to 6.0 to 6.1 official '3'rom,
Have tried numerous UI's including SPB Mobile Shell, Winterface etc but ended up reverting back to my basic stable set up. (ref my sig)
Had toyed with HTC Cube but a hard reset made me realize it it was more novelty than useful. had a fiddle with M2D but it was only a cab and not fully integrated into the ROM, so i ditched it.
But now that im hitting the max storage again, im tempted to play with a new rom.
edit: just checked the Memory status and actually is the Storage Memory that i keep maxing out, not the Program storage (28Mb free) as i originally thought. I use memaid daily to regain space, but i guess its not enough!

GLO said:
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edit: just checked the Memory status and actually is the Storage Memory that i keep maxing out, not the Program storage (28Mb free) as i originally thought. I use memaid daily to regain space, but i guess its not enough!
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That is exactly the problem I'm having. I just recently bought one of these phones (used with preloaded apps) & it's kind of frustrating to see the storage memory near max (127MB).. I have deleted or moved some things to my removable memory card. I got it down to about 12MB of free space, but it seems to decrease daily!? right now its down to 6mb of free space in just 1 day & i have not added any apps. I'm confused how this is happening
Can you or anyone help?

Clear Temp Internet Files.

ClearTemp by Vicott - v1.3.0.1
Also follow earlier post regards installing software only things that need to be loaded @ startup & home screen replacements "Shells" need to be installed to device memory, rest place on SD card.

stylez said:
....ClearTemp by Vicott - v1.3.0.1[/URL]
Also follow earlier post regards installing software only things that need to be loaded @ startup & home screen replacements "Shells" need to be installed to device memory, rest place on SD card.
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Thanks stylez. I had already cleared/deleted my temp files a few days ago using that app. In the meantime though my free storage space (RAM) continues to decrease even when I'm not actively using any app!?? This is what puzzles me the most. Out of 128 MB ram, I'm now down to ~3.5 MB! Do you know what could be causing this or what to do? There are only 7 programs listed in my storage memory. Should i remove all of them except maybe "MS classic blue" (whatever that is).
When it boots up, the screen displays "TPC Elite ROM series" & then series of digits & text in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm new to using pocketpc's but it seems this device is running some mods? I have installed:
WM 6.5 (professional)
ROM version: TPC_V11_MEGA WWE (11/04/09)
touchflo v3.0
s2u2 (v2.04)
CHome editor (v1.6 beta)
titanium weather
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1)
& a host of other apps some of which I understand their function & some I don't.
Also a few days ago I was able to move some apps from the phone's storage
memory to my storage card. I was only able to move 2 or apps, but couldn't move others. Whenever I tried moving or deleting files/apps it wouldn't allow me to do so. I used total commander ce (v2.51) to do this. I have "file explorer" installed, but it seems less robust & have fewer features.
Any suggestions on how to move these apps or delete unwanted files?
thanks all.

kgj said:
Thanks stylez. I had already cleared/deleted my temp files a few days ago using that app. In the meantime though my free storage space (RAM) continues to decrease even when I'm not actively using any app!?? This is what puzzles me the most. Out of 128 MB ram, I'm now down to ~3.5 MB! Do you know what could be causing this or what to do? There are only 7 programs listed in my storage memory. Should i remove all of them except maybe "MS classic blue" (whatever that is).
When it boots up, the screen displays "TPC Elite ROM series" & then series of digits & text in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm new to using pocketpc's but it seems this device is running some mods? I have installed:
WM 6.5 (professional)
ROM version: TPC_V11_MEGA WWE (11/04/09)
touchflo v3.0
s2u2 (v2.04)
CHome editor (v1.6 beta)
titanium weather
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1)
& a host of other apps some of which I understand their function & some I don't.
Also a few days ago I was able to move some apps from the phone's storage
memory to my storage card. I was only able to move 2 or apps, but couldn't move others. Whenever I tried moving or deleting files/apps it wouldn't allow me to do so. I used total commander ce (v2.51) to do this. I have "file explorer" installed, but it seems less robust & have fewer features.
Any suggestions on how to move these apps or delete unwanted files?
thanks all.
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Ok now i know what the problem is "as have ROM info" It's deblogger solution is you can't delete folder Deblogger use Task Manager and kill cprog.exe then delete

Thanks stylez, but I thought I read somewhere that cprog.exe file is an integral part of WM6.5 & utilizing the phone & killing or deleting it could be bad?
have you deleted this file from your phone? if so is there some other that replaces its functionality or is it even necessary?

kgj said:
Thanks stylez, but I thought I read somewhere that cprog.exe file is an integral part of WM6.5 & utilizing the phone & killing or deleting it could be bad?
have you deleted this file from your phone? if so is there some other that replaces its functionality or is it even necessary?
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Delete the deblogger folder, as the solution says it's on root, you may not be able to delete without stopping the process cprog.exe it will have no effect on cprog.exe in the Windows Directory.
I dont have deblogger in my ROM as no Mega M2D and all recent releases don't as TPC cooked the ROM before we knew the issue existed.

Thanks for the tips. i followed the instructions, checked my free space & it was up to 76MB at 11am when i deleted it.
Do you know what these other softwares are for that I listed? I tried researching them, but am not sure if they are critical or what I can do to move them if not? (using total commander did not work)(

kgj said:
Thanks for the tips. i followed the instructions, checked my free space & it was up to 76MB at 11am when i deleted it.
Do you know what these other softwares are for that I listed? I tried researching them, but am not sure if they are critical or what I can do to move them if not? (using total commander did not work)(
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That's cool happy to help.
You can't move programs cooked in ROM "Read Only Memory" files
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1) is a button mapper allows multi function per button press "very handy"
titanium weather Application for CHome weather
CHome editor (v1.6 beta) Allows moving panels, making new panels etc in CHome
s2u2 (v2.04) Lock screen
touchflo v2.0 M2D homescreen

thanks again stylez!

ok 1 month later I have the same problem! i deleted the deblogger folder. & i may have done another reinstall since then, but it has resurfaced. is there any way to make this a read only file instead of deleting it?