[Q] Bionic Worth the extra $100? - Motorola Droid Bionic

Hello,
I would like to first start out by stating that I am new here and have been reading and researching about a lot of different phones for my verizon upgrade.
I have narrowed it down pretty much to the Droid Bionic and the X2. However I currently do not have 4g access in my area so its not hugely important to me to have 4g. The price difference between the x2 and bionic is $100 more so its a bit of a jump. Also I currently have an LG Vortex so I know that almost any phone is an upgrade.
So I want to know if it is worth the extra $100 over the x2 if 4g is not needed.
I know it has 1gb ram vs 512 on the x2 or if maybe there is a more recommended phone idea (I know this is the bionic forum) I really like the 4.3 in the screen size and would not really want to go below 4" is screen size. I tend to be a technology power user and will be taking advantage of as many features as possible and maybe some custom themes/roms.
Yes I know the bootloader is locked but I feel that it will be unlocked soon I see the drive in the community for that so if not by Motorola it will be by someone.
Thanks I appreciate the input... If you recommend another phone please post why vs the x2 and bionic.

Do you gave a radioshack around your area?
I got my bionic for 199 jus a little over a week ago
Not sure if they are still having the sale but worth a check
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This is why i went with the bionic.
I had the Droid X2 for 3 months, it was a ok phone nothing to show off, the Loud-speaker was somewhat low not very clear,The cpu/gpu was not the greatest or on par want i wanted it to be or hoped it would be,The screen was pretty good,the biggest problem's i had with the droid x2 was radom reboots/boot loops on stock, and the music poping sound from my music from the speaker of the phone, and this phone was a replacement for the Samsung Fascinate.
now to the Bionic
I have had this phone for about a week now
Its very fast, The Cpu/Gpu are very fast on stock i am not even rooted running all stock have a ton of apps on the phone and it runs very fast, and the screen is very nice looking, sound is very nice sounding, speaker sound is very good, no poping or anything of that, the 3g works very nice very fast, loads web pages very fast. the 1gb of ram helps alot with the o.s. the front camera is very nice and takes nice picture's and the 8mp camera works very well, and the 1080p recording works very very very well, i recorded my friend for 10 minutes messing around and it was very clear and the sounded very clear and nice.
When you get 4g the phone will scream, but it will eat the battery alive,
But i would if you have 3g on or 4g get the extended battery. i did get the extended battery and its alot longer lasting but alittle bigger, so if you get the extended battery get the case made for the extended battery it will not fit a nomal case. i already tried.
but i would chose the bionic because overall its a great builit phone, and verizon/moto already has a patch coming out in nov to fix them, and there is a great dev team working on roms/themes for this phone, so its only going to get better for this phone
if you are from the TOLEDO AREA please pm me and i can get you in contact with a guy who will help you out. he is a manager from a toledo store

I do have a radioshack but im on upgrade pricing and i've checked the website and a few resellers the best i have found is $249 but i would be getting a car charger and screen protectors at no additional charge.
I will double check radioshack but they never seem to be cheaper here.
PS. Unfortunately I am not in the Toledo area. Thanks for the offer though.

amazon online has a good price, or you can call verizon customer service and explain to them and most of the time they will be more then happy to help you. if you look at my thread below, you will see verizon customer service does help and they go out of there way for the customer. so you should start there if you want to try to get a discount if thats what your aiming for.

If you hold on to your phones for more than 18 months, I recommend choosing the Bionic. With a 1GHz dual core processor, 1GB RAM, decent graphical hardware and high resolution screen, it's going to have much greater longevity than a phone lacking any one of those features.
Dual core isn't a big benefit right now, but as soon as Android and third party programs more widely support multi-core processing, it will become very important. And 512 MB of RAM is barely sufficient for todays' high-end phones, much less for the operating environment a year or two from now.
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jcnogo said:
I do have a radioshack but im on upgrade pricing and i've checked the website and a few resellers the best i have found is $249 but i would be getting a car charger and screen protectors at no additional charge.
I will double check radioshack but they never seem to be cheaper here.
PS. Unfortunately I am not in the Toledo area. Thanks for the offer though.
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Even with upgrade, you can still get Radio Shack's $199 deal. But the tax, $70 in Los Angeles, kills the deal. The best deal is still with Costco. They are out of the accessories, but they give you a mail-in rebate, instead.
If you really need a phone, get it Bionic. If you can hold off a few more weeks, you'll have more phones to choose from and find better deals on Bionic.

irsmurf said:
If you hold on to your phones for more than 18 months, I recommend choosing the Bionic. With a 1GHz dual core processor, 1GB RAM, decent graphical hardware and high resolution screen, it's going to have much greater longevity than a phone lacking any one of those features.
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Typically I do hold onto my phones for that long at least usually more like the 2 years between upgrades.
As for amazon the price is 249.99.
Radio shacks website says 299.99. with $100 mail in rebate (making it the 199) if you trade in your old phone but i can't be a smart phone. Also I am on a family plan and my mom already did the trade up to smart phone with $100 rebate so i have no line i can cheat that with... One more thing I currently have unlimited data and do not wish to lose that.
I'm not as concerned with the price as I am with making sure it is worth the extra cost.

if your going to pay close to $300 your better off just calling verizon customer service and ordering from them, and getting the extended battery while your getting the phone. but thats just me, it worth the price. its a great phone with alot of power and alot in its furture. but i will stop opening my big mouth lol

Killz86 said:
if your going to pay close to $300 your better off just calling verizon customer service and ordering from them, and getting the extended battery while your getting the phone. but thats just me, it worth the price. its a great phone with alot of power and alot in its furture. but i will stop opening my big mouth lol
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LOL I would rather not pay $300 or close to it but as far as its going i am not finding anything cheaper. although i did hear costco what is the price there?

i looked it up online on there website and its says $279.99

Ok so it seems I'm at that sub $300 price and stuck there... I might call and see what the price would be with extended battery. like you suggested

I had the X2 for almost a month, and am much happier with the Bionic. The original X was an awesome phone, the X2 was slightly better, and the Bionic is in a different league. I don't have 4G coverage either, but the 3G performance is more than adequate.
Good luck!
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With my VZ upgrade and Amazon, the phone comes in at 220 bucks and I can keep my existing unlimited data usage. I too am about to take this plunge, I have found no solid reason to not get the Bionic, the dual core is an advantage in the future.

Check with Costco
Check with Costco. The are selling it for 199 with a car dock and several other extras. This deal is in store and not online.
By the way, I came from the Thunderbolt and the Droid 3, and this phone is much better than both for most of the reasons stated above. It took several tries with some defective units, but I am content now.

Hmm I would check with costco but I would need a membership or someone with one to buy me a gift card in order to make purchases from there.
Also if you buy from costco and lets say the phone is defective would i have to take it back to costco or could i go to a verizon store to get a replacement? being that the nearest costco is 45miles away

This is a terrific phone for many reasons. One, if you're into the whole "rooting" thing, and if you're not, you need to jump on the bandwagon!, the ROMS already being pushed out for this thing are amazing, which means in the future, this could very well be the phone that has numerous ROMS, etc, like the original Droid. It's very fast, I have never had any problems with mine. The problems that I have read about will be addressed with an OTA update, however, if you would not like to root.

U can get a 6o day free membership easy.just check online
Also try bestbuy and wirefly.com and letstalk.com both offer free shipping overnight not positive though
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jcnogo said:
Typically I do hold onto my phones for that long at least usually more like the 2 years between upgrades.
As for amazon the price is 249.99.
Radio shacks website says 299.99. with $100 mail in rebate (making it the 199) if you trade in your old phone but i can't be a smart phone. Also I am on a family plan and my mom already did the trade up to smart phone with $100 rebate so i have no line i can cheat that with... One more thing I currently have unlimited data and do not wish to lose that.
I'm not as concerned with the price as I am with making sure it is worth the extra cost.
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Don't go by radioshack.com pricing. Online pricing is different than in store pricing. The in store price on the Droid Bionic is currently $199.99 with no mail in rebate.

I got my Bionic @ Verizon for 149.99 (after Phone-Trade-In)
They advertise it at $299, but if you stand there and take to much of the Sale Reps time, he will bring the price down just to get you out the door. Then after he agrees to the $249, then ask about the $100 Phone-Trade-In. (He he says its not available anymore, then Verizon.com Lets you Trade in all kinds of phone https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/home.aspx - that site will tell you the price they will give you for different phones, and you can even trade in multiple phones to rack up some extra cash)
So far, I'm not impressed with the Bionic. And I'm EXTREMELY Annoyed at the fact that it doesn't allow apps to be Moved to the MicroSD Card. If give you the option to "Move to Media Area" but thats the 8GB of Internal Memory. The phone claims to have 16GB of Internal Memory, but it only allows you to access 8GB for music/photos/etc.
I paid $99 for a 32GB MicroSD card, which is just sitting in the phone not being used, because the Bionic Doesn't let ANY APPLICATION store cache/files to it. Evernote, which has always used the MicroSD and Has a option in the Settings to use the MicroSD, will not save to it. Instead it uses the Internal Memory. Games that download Extra Files, stores them to the Internal Memory instead of the MicroSD. I have two Games which require an additional download of roughly 300MB each, thats nearly a Gig of Space already gone from the Internal Memory. Then there are my Google Docs saved for offline access, E-Books saved for offline reading, and Many other things eating away at the small 8GB of memory. I Think this is do to the Bionic having the Phones Internal Memory Partitioned incorrectly, which is causing Application to think that the 8GB of Internal Memory is actually a SD Card. But oddly the Bionics Built In Camera application WILL save to my 32GB MicroSD. But its the only one out of the 14 Applications I've installed. Verizon Claims this is an error on the App Developer, and since Apps are 3rd Party, they provide no support.
There are other bugs; but I believe there is a update coming in Nov (I think someone mentioned it)
The Bionic Comes with a lot of Bloatware that can't be uninstalled unless you root the phone.
The Camera is kinda Crappy. Expected way better pictures from a 8MP camera. Its shoots HD Video, but they are small resolution videos.
Its quick, and HD games run smooth.
I've never had any other DRIOD, but I've had many ANDROID phones, and the Bionic is certainly not one of the better Android Phones. But thats expected from Motorola, since they have to customize everything, which sometimes causes them to fall short on functionality. I haven't owned a Moto-Phone since the Razor (which was a big fail)
If you get it, and Don't like it, you have 14 days to change - but know they will charge you a 35$ restocking fee.
Good luck in your choice

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Nexus One Prices

So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
Stevv said:
So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
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It depend on what other choice people have, There's quite a few android phone coming out, in the mean time I guess some people who have the $$ will pay high price to get what they want
my advice is to not buy a Nexus One.
The nexus one is a great phone, totally worth the price and options and if you have your mind set on one, dont let anyone tell you different. However, its being a little outdone by recent phones. It doesn't make sense to buy a phone that is already being surpassed. Currently newer android phones like the Droid X or the Galaxy S line cost the same as the Nexus but have higher hardware.
My predictions for the price of the Nexus One are: Initially the price will go up, as with all technology, if something is hard to acquire the price will jump as it is valuable and you can milk the buyer. After some time the price will stabilize and begin to be less then the $530 initial price.
Yeah to tell you the truth I would rather have something like an Evo 4G or a Droid X, but those phones are locked to their respective carriers in the USA right? I live in Germany right now and will for about another year, and I would rather have a very unlocked phone like the Nexus One which I can buy from American eBay (or Google store before it closed) and ship it here to avoid paying in Euros.
The galaxy S is a very good phone from what I hear, there is also a International version of the phone.
I bought mine €427 all-in
my screen is now cracked on my nexus after a bad drop and I have been debating if i wanted to spend 530 on a new nexus for a couple weeks now.
ultimatly i couldn't convice myself to spend that much on a phone already outdated hardware wise even though the software support is first rate.
The samsung galaxy s is an awesome phone but the fact its shipping without froyo for now is a deal killer. After using froyo I can not go back to 2.1. Some people might say just buy it and wait for it to be released this fall, but there are some eye poping rumors about the HTC vision coming out.
Overall, the nexus was a GREAT phone, and without the crack I wouldnt be in the market for a new phone but spending 600+ for one doesnt make much sense now
The big bonus everyone forgets about the N1 is that its basically a dev phone.
Google pretty much wants us to tinker with it, stuff it full of roms and abuse it.
We also get alot more access to do to our phone what other carriers and makers are trying to block and stop.
Yes the hardware isnt the "newest" of the new but I would hardly call the phone outdated. Is my 2010 Fusion outdated because the 2011s are coming out? hardly. It isnt the newest on the block anymore but its still relevant and supported.
Also, I think that unless a phone comes to market with Gingerbread later this year the Nexus will probably be the first device to run this for a few months at least.
Lastly, look at the iPhone 4. I can show you a handful of reviews where even mac fans say the Nexus one closely matches that phone in performance and features and they only release one a yr. The nexus one wont be irrelevant until next summer.
I think that, until Google proves it can push an Android update to all phones simultaneously, there will always be a market for the Nexus 1.

Looking into buying a Nook Color

I want to get the best deal on one of these, is Craigslist the place?
Or should I buy new for $250? or are there some going for 200 new?
Retail, you'll find them new for $250. (I haven't seen them go on sale)
There was a deal on B&N's eBay store (that only applied to ebay purchase) for $50 off... making it $200. But that deal has since expired.
After that there is the Craig's List or ebay route to take your chances and buy a used one.
Although I'm sure most people will not have problems, I wouldn't buy a nook over ebay or craigslist and I'd spend the extra $50 for new. That way you have full warranty for one.
That's true. I'm trying to convince my mom to get one but she keeps saying that there will be much better technology in a couple of months...
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
There will be... for 600-800 bucks.
Though the new resistive Coby model looks very interesting for $170.
Tennis11 said:
That's true. I'm trying to convince my mom to get one but she keeps saying that there will be much better technology in a couple of months...
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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yeah, but that's like saying you should get a galaxy tab or Xoom over a Nook. For the price there is nothing like it. Sure in a year from now we might see more, but in two years from now, we'll see something twice as good as that, so it's all on when you want to get into the game. I personally bought the nook with the thought that a year or year and a half from now I'm going to upgrade and spend the good money on a good one (if I still want it)
There is always something better coming out tomorrow. You just have to figure out what it is that you want in a tablet. I for one wanted a tablet to mess around with a decent price point that has android on it and i can download some apps and have somehing to easily browse the web. I originally bought a archos 101 which is a very cool product but after a couple of weeks I realized i couldn't stand the viewing angles of it, i mean i could barely stand to look at it in landscape mode and it was unbeariable in portrait mode as it just messe with my eyes. So i got the nook color and the screen is fantastic. I've rooted it and installed my favorite launcher and some simple apps that i enjoy using. Plus the great thing bout the nook color is a lot of people are hacking it and developing roms for it and someday hopefully we will have a nice version of honeycomb to play around with.
This may or may not be of help to the OP, but, there is a $15.00 Gift Card offer available for Referral.
With the Groupon B&N GC, I made a small purchase and along with it a free trial of B&N Membership; also I registered my NOOK COLOR bought from B&N Ebay offer. Not sure, which one triggered it, but I received Email from B&N with the above offer.
So, you may want to check with your friends near you.
Regarding purchase for your Mom: her age, eyesight and nimbleness of her fingers, would be a major consideration to make sure a 7" tablet will suffice. Notwithstanding, these factors for older people, I feel this is the best bargain in its price range.
xdabr said:
There will be... for 600-800 bucks.
Though the new resistive Coby model looks very interesting for $170.
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Do not buy it.
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honestly I wouldnt buy it used.. I was considering buying one on craigslist and decided to go to the store... this is why i wouldnt buy it used..
My first nook.. returned it in less than an hour because it had rippling of the LCD beneath the digitzer.
My second nook, returned and exchanged it 6 days later because the bezel was creaky, volume button would stick on the + and it had horrible light leaking on the bottom right (Almost like a big yellow arc you could see at night no matter what brightness setting it was set to).
Now i am on my third nook color.. This one has dust underneath the digitizer between the LCD, creaks alot too..
Based on my experience i would highly recommend spending the extra bit of money just for the 14 day return\exchange policy coverage.. the quality control on these devices sucks.
I have no troubles, but highly recommend getting one new, just for the peace of mind of replacement if there is a hardware problem.
I think I'll pull the trigger once (hopefully) the B&N-Ebay discount happens again....I was on the fence last time last time it had a $50 discount.....
Mine is just perfect out of the box, not any single problem, love it so much.
Would anyone be able to recommend a reseller that ships to the UK? Or one that's based here preferably.
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E Bay NC
Got a $200 one on E Bay from B&N New, tried booting Froyo from SD. For some reason the MicroSD went in between the back cover and Chassis. Since I had to take it apart to extract the card, and probably voided the warantee
I decided to go the auto-nooter route and use the sd for storage. Thr back does seem a little creaky now, but everything works fine. Hate those micro sd's, already lost one, and broke another.
Jim
xdabr said:
There will be... for 600-800 bucks.
Though the new resistive Coby model looks very interesting for $170.
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I have a current model Coby, with the resistive screen. I don't like it. I'm use to the touch screen on my OG Droid. Also have a NC and I think it is a good tablet for the price. I couldn't see paying $600 for a tablet, especially if I bricked it from messing around with it.
it is true, the dev community for the NC is so much larger than the Coby community.
Just my 2¢
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Thanks; the new Coby (shipping from Amazon soon) adds multitouch and a front camera, so it mimics the iPad2 to a tiny degree. Unfortunately I still don't know any retailers that carry it locally so I could see just how bad the touchscreen is. (I've used Windows Mobile resistive screens, and I think they're fine!)

Will Verizon have the Samsung Galaxy S II or a decent dual core 4G Android soon?

Sprint has HTC Evo 3D and Samsung Galaxy SII
T-Mobile has G2X, HTC Sensation, MyTouch 4G
Verizon has... well, the Bionic
I really want to stay with Verizon, they have the best network and the absolute best more reliable network.
So, anybody knows if they will have a decent dual core phone any time soon?
I need
1) descent screen. Super AMOLED cool, but any phone will do. HTC and LG usually have good screens. I love the screen of my G2X for instance
2) 1GB of RAM, or maybe even 728MB, but preferably 1GB
3) At least 1GB of space for apps, I believe that is called Internal Storage
4) 4G. At least >= 4000 kbps/s inside malls
5) Nvidia Tegra >=1Ghz would be nice
If you Google it you will find that VZW is not going to sell the GSII because they don't think it has enough to compete with the IP5 when it drops. They have a newer offering from Samsung called the Prime that they hope to have on the market in time for the holidays. Possibly as early as next month.
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If you Google it you will find that VZW is not going to sell the GSII because they don't think it has enough to compete with the IP5 when it drops. They have a newer offering from Samsung called the Prime that they hope to have on the market in time for the holidays. Possibly as early as next month.
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Well my main concern if I switch to Spint is that I will have to pay around $80 per month or something like that
I don't have a problem with having two carriers within the family, but with Verizon I only have to pay a cheap $50 per month price
I like the fact that Sprint has the Samsung Galaxy SII, the HTC Evo 3D
They even have a Motorola Dual Core as well
All 4G, Dual Core, nice screen, good RAM
So 3 devices vs 1
From what I am reading, if I use this phone from Verizon, I will use it for at least 6 months, till January or something
I know how technology works, and how long it takes for new devices to appear
example the GTX 600 series will appear in January, AMD Bulldozer still hasn't arrived, Intel took forever to fix their motherboards, and 6 months after they released the Intel Sandy Bridge, they were still releasing new chipsets
Here is how much it will cost me to switch carriers for the next 6 months
If I stay in T-mobile and stay in no contract
$120 every month.
Total: $720
If I move to Sprint
$90 per month
I need to finish paying $350 to T-Mobile for the phone, Let's say I sell the phone in $200, $150 out of my pocket
$250 for the Samsung Galaxy S II
I still need to pay July and August to T-Mobile, so add another $240
Total: $1180
If I stay in Verizon
$50 per month
I need to finish paying $350 to T-Mobile for the phone, Let's say I sell the phone in $200, $150 out of my pocket
$350 for the Droid Bionic
Let's say I sell the Bionic for $350, let's say the Samsung Prime is $600, so $250 out of my pocket
I still need to pay July and August to T-Mobile, so add another $240
Total: $1290
In theory I want to stay with the cheapest one (T-Mobile), but again, I don't like them
I had no-contract plan with them, but now those plans are no existing anymore.
So I can't drop down to the $99 plan I had before, freaking idiot$..., they told me the ONLY way to drop my price is to make a new 2 year contract.
So if I want to cancel with them I have to pay them a ****load of money since I am still paying the phone
So even if T-Mobile is the cheapest, I wouldn't trust them with my credit card or bank account anytime soon, so I won't stay with them no way
I think I'm going to stay with T-Mobile, and then someday try to switch to Sprint
If I can switch to Sprint this week, that would be great.
If I can't, then I don't see what's the point of doing this deal with Verizon. I am 110% sure that I don't like this phone
now, with T-Mobile I had no contract, so I had the ability to go up/down in plans. Now those idiot$... removed all those plans, so they respect my rate but they won't allow me to upgrade/downgrade
So another nasty tactic would be to allow T-Mobile to send us to collections and hopefully we can go to court and explain to the judge that they can't destroy my plans, and then expect me to pay $120 forever
They actually want me to pay $120 per month, for 2 years (until I finish paying my phone), because those idiot$.. just say they don't have no-contract plans anymore.
So screw them, I haven't decided yet if I can sue them or if it's even worth my time
Anyway, if I just forget about them, maybe throw them a bone here and there, here are my new estimates
If I stay in T-mobile and stay in no contract
$120 every month.
Total: $720
If I move to Sprint
$90 per month
$250 for the Samsung Galaxy S II
Total: $790
If I stay in Verizon
$50 per month
$350 for the Droid Bionic
Let's say I sell the Bionic for $350, let's say the Samsung Prime is $600, so $250 out of my pocket
Total: $900
Now, my question would be
If Sprint and Verizon have good reception inside malls, Best Buy, Frys, Walmart... and the price is around the same
Which one would you chose?
My main problem with Verizon is that they only have ONE FREAKING PHONE that works with 4GB, and has a dual core CPU
So anyway, even though I hate doing this, tomorrow, if for some reason I don't sign up with Sprint, I am going to stay at $tupid T-Mobile.
rafarataneneces said:
So another nasty tactic would be to allow T-Mobile to send us to collections and hopefully we can go to court and explain to the judge that they can't destroy my plans, and then expect me to pay $120 forever.
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Not worth it bud. You don't want ANYTHING remotely bad on your credit report, especially in these economic times. Creditors are looking for an excuse not to lend. You might not need a loan now, or in the near future, but you never know if an emergency comes and you get denied because of a not paid phone bill.
Just my 2 cents...
Chopstix9 said:
If you Google it you will find that VZW is not going to sell the GSII because they don't think it has enough to compete with the IP5 when it drops. They have a newer offering from Samsung called the Prime that they hope to have on the market in time for the holidays. Possibly as early as next month.
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That's not even close to true. Verizon sees no point in selling the GSII because the Prime is the same phone except for the LTE radio and Ice Cream Sandwich (reported to be the first ICS phone).
The IP5 will probably be the IP4 running the iPad2's SoC and iOS5; the GS2 has been out for many months and can already run with that as can other devices.
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Not worth it bud. You don't want ANYTHING remotely bad on your credit report, especially in these economic times. Creditors are looking for an excuse not to lend. You might not need a loan now, or in the near future, but you never know if an emergency comes and you get denied because of a not paid phone bill.
Just my 2 cents...
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I know, but hey, not to brag or anything, but if I work hard I can make all the amount that I owe them (including the phone cost and the 2-3 months I will be behind) in a couple of days
The problem is that I have a NO CONTRACT plan with T-Mobile
Somehow I ended up stuck at $120 per month because those plans don't exist anymore
so they can't discount me or anything
From what I know, they do send you to collections after 3 months.
So I can screw them and after 2 months and 29 days just pay them the cash and shut their mouth
I just dislike companies being dishonest
If I have NO CONTRACT how on earth did I ended up with such a high fee?
I can't even remove or add features to the plan, it's ridiculous
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That's not even close to true. Verizon sees no point in selling the GSII because the Prime is the same phone except for the LTE radio and Ice Cream Sandwich (reported to be the first ICS phone).
The IP5 will probably be the IP4 running the iPad2's SoC and iOS5; the GS2 has been out for many months and can already run with that as can other devices.
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But do you know if the Prime will take another 6 months to arrive or so?
I can't stand my phone it's only being 4 days of use
Well, from the daily reading I've been doing it IS a superior phone to the GSII. It isn't even going to run the same processor! It is based on Samsung's in-house Exynos CPU at 1.5 GHz with 1GB RAM. It will not be using the TI processor like the duece. The phone has a metal body. That's right, a Samsung with a metal body. It will also sport a 2000 mAh battery. On the soft side, there's a new browser that is said to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything else on the market.
Obviously, this close together it isn't extensively different, but quite a bit so at e same time. The plan is to have it on the market for the holiday shopping season. Probably within the month or not a lot longer.
Your back? You said good bye already what gives chief?
Just a heads up sprints unlimited data will be going away soon enough. Or at most switch to a $30 unlimited so either way sprint will be going up
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Well, from the daily reading I've been doing it IS a superior phone to the GSII. It isn't even going to run the same processor! It is based on Samsung's in-house Exynos CPU at 1.5 GHz with 1GB RAM. It will not be using the TI processor like the duece. The phone has a metal body. That's right, a Samsung with a metal body. It will also sport a 2000 mAh battery. On the soft side, there's a new browser that is said to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything else on the market.
Obviously, this close together it isn't extensively different, but quite a bit so at e same time. The plan is to have it on the market for the holiday shopping season. Probably within the month or not a lot longer.
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Based on my inside sources, the processor will be infact a TI processor, specifically the TI OMAP4460, and it will be housed in a plastic body to be released sometime in October, though that could change. Also, another tip: the official name of the rumored Prime has nothing to do with the word Prime or Droid, and that's all I can say about this rumored phone without getting into too much trouble.
Hands on reviews posted on-line dis-agree with your claims... I have been waiting since last year's CES for the Bionic. Waited thru all the delays/scraps. After 9 months, the phone looks to me to have landed with a resounding thud !!
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Hands on reviews posted on-line dis-agree with your claims... I have been waiting since last year's CES for the Bionic. Waited thru all the delays/scraps. After 9 months, the phone looks to me to have landed with a resounding thud !!
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I'm not saying you're wrong or I'm wrong, I'm just relaying the insider information I have. I have a friend who works for Verizon high up there, so I know his information is 100% correct and I've also seen the information myself.
Amazed nobody has mentioned this phone in this thread.
http://tinyurl.com/63a7rgm
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I'm aware it's out there but I've never been a fan of HTC products. Normally I really like Moto offerings but I am less than impressed with the Bionic. Especially after all of the hype surrounding it all year.
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Well, from the daily reading I've been doing it IS a superior phone to the GSII. It isn't even going to run the same processor! It is based on Samsung's in-house Exynos CPU at 1.5 GHz with 1GB RAM. It will not be using the TI processor like the duece. The phone has a metal body. That's right, a Samsung with a metal body. It will also sport a 2000 mAh battery. On the soft side, there's a new browser that is said to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything else on the market.
Obviously, this close together it isn't extensively different, but quite a bit so at e same time. The plan is to have it on the market for the holiday shopping season. Probably within the month or not a lot longer.
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Well yesterday I went to Sprint and man that phone is absolutely gorgeous
However, my HTC Thunderbolt does a lot of the things about the same
Yes the Samsung Galaxy S II is thinner,and the screen a bit bigger
the MAIN difference is the screen quality, man NOTHING can beat Samsung now a days
However, I would like to know if there are news about HTC Vigor or the Prime
I am having a hard time figuring out why I should change to Sprint just for one phone.
Let's say Verizon does comes up with a phone that has dual core 1.2Ghz or 1.5Ghz in the near future, then that phone would be the best
the Samsung Galaxy S II was able to achieve 8000 kbps/s
The HTC Thunderbolt was able to achieve 16000 kbps/s
So, none of them is a clear winner, one has bigger more beautiful screen, but the other has faster internet
Anyway, I think I'm going to try the Samsung Galaxy SII, just because I bought the HTC thunderbolt cash, so I can cancel the contract, and I can go back to Verizon any day I want
Right now it's the time to test all carriers (I am testing all except AT&T which has a limited bandwidth for customers), and decide
My co-worker is amazed by his S2! He suggested I switch out of Verizon....Now! I laughed and told him my unlimited plan is keeping me with Verizon. He measured the speed of the phone and it was twice the speed of the bionic. Maybe that phone will come to the Verizon network as the Samsung Function soon!
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I to went into sprint and played with the sgs 2 and it is VERY nice. I was thinking about returning my bionic and going with sprint also. I know the quadrant scores are for losers but I was able to get about 2400 with my bionic. I ran it on the sprint store phone and was able to get repeat 34-3500 scores! However, I was only able to hit 4mbs down and .645 up on the same phone. My bionic in the same location hit 16 down and 5 up.
Latest word on PhoneArena:
Vigor release: 10/20
Prime release:11/3.
Take it with a grain of salt, but that's the latest word.

What's The Catch!

Can not for the life of me see how this phone is so cheap considering the specs and build quality. Anybody had any hands on experience with the phone find any flaws? If I get the money I'm almost definitely going to buy this. I just hope that the battery life and sound quality are decent as to me it just seems too cheap to be perfect. I also hate the snobbery from the iPhone users who have seen the price of this and think what a load of cheap garbage but I'd love for this to prove them wrong.
It's not that this phone is cheap, it's that unlocked phones are CRAZY overpriced.
There is no catch, Google wants to get consumers away from carrier control and push their Android ecosystem. Win/win for them.
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Can not for the life of me see how this phone is so cheap considering the specs and build quality. Anybody had any hands on experience with the phone find any flaws? If I get the money I'm almost definitely going to buy this. I just hope that the battery life and sound quality are decent as to me it just seems too cheap to be perfect. I also hate the snobbery from the iPhone users who have seen the price of this and think what a load of cheap garbage but I'd love for this to prove them wrong.
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Search Nexus 4 reviews on Google, I'm sure you bound to find many advantages and disadvantages. Biggest ones to concern me is the glass back breaks easily and that storage wise you only get 8GB or 16GB. Not having LTE isn't a problem since I'm with T-Mobile.
They are probably only barely breaking even on the costs; phones like the Galaxy S III and the iPhone 5 have a unit cost much lower than their retail cost. Gotta make money somehow. I'm not sure what Google's motivations are with setting these prices, but they're not making a profit from them.
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I'm not sure what Google's motivations are with setting these prices, but they're not making a profit from them.
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Probably pushing stock android and android development. Google isn't looking to get a profit on the phone, but they are looking to get a profit on what you do with the phone (aka: search).
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They are probably only barely breaking even on the costs; phones like the Galaxy S III and the iPhone 5 have a unit cost much lower than their retail cost. Gotta make money somehow. I'm not sure what Google's motivations are with setting these prices, but they're not making a profit from them.
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That's very interesting Daniel. It kind of sounds like how Sony sold the ps3 at a much lower price than it should be sold. They were losing money to push blu ray so maybe google are selling a really "affordable" High end phone to push android that one step further than iPhone.
Its Google flexing a little, its all about market share so break even is fine. Im aliitle concerned about when motorola takes the lead, though that could be a year or two away. no complaints if they want to give me a break. Im on t-Mobile too so no big deal LTE.
The catch is they know you will buy apps. + you may be tempted to get one for other peeps in your life as they are cheap and its xmas time. These peeps, will also buy apps.
/shrug
GoreTan said:
Search Nexus 4 reviews on Google, I'm sure you bound to find many advantages and disadvantages. Biggest ones to concern me is the glass back breaks easily and that storage wise you only get 8GB or 16GB. Not having LTE isn't a problem since I'm with T-Mobile.
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I suppose the glass breaking could be an issue but then again I treat my phones like the crown jewels so I doubt that would be a huge problem for me. Also being in the UK on three I get decent HSPA speeds so the lack of LTE or 4G is absolutely irrelevant to me and most of the UK. The faster phones processors are getting the faster web browsing is with 3g anyway so I'm not fussed for 4g at the moment.
Right, they want Android everywhere and this is how Android wins eventually..not to mention it costs them squat per phone to build..
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So it's a marketing ploy to really push android. I'm fine with that As long as they weren't sacrificing any quality with the phone. This is surely exciting. I hope I can get one as soon as possible. I'm a huge phone geek (well that's obvious being on XDA as we all are) and I've never seen anyone with a Nexus device in the UK so I think it will be great If people in the UK will start getting them. I've always been with sense so vanilla will be a completely new experience.
I came here immediately looking for posts that said that no LTE is the catch, didn't see any to my surprise
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I came here immediately looking for posts that said that no LTE is the catch, didn't see any to my surprise
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haha I'm so glad no one has said it. It barely matters to anyone outside of the US!
As great as this price is to get Android out into the world more, I just have a feeling that since the phone is only being sold on the play store for the (majority of people to buy) I am concerned that if they dont go all out on commercials (which they should of started with already IMO) then I have a feeling that they wont get many new people buying the phone.
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Can not for the life of me see how this phone is so cheap considering the specs and build quality. Anybody had any hands on experience with the phone find any flaws? If I get the money I'm almost definitely going to buy this. I just hope that the battery life and sound quality are decent as to me it just seems too cheap to be perfect. I also hate the snobbery from the iPhone users who have seen the price of this and think what a load of cheap garbage but I'd love for this to prove them wrong.
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Not sure there's a catch. I don't like the glass back. Seems like they're copying Apple. I also don't ;like how you can't remove the battery. They wear out after a while.
I hope hope hope that they improved the camera. When the Galaxy Nexus was released, it was promised that it took pictures instantly. This was an improvement from my older Androids which used to take 2-5 seconds to focus and snap a pic. However, the camera on the Galaxy Nexus was weak as hell. Grainy and blurry in low light and only 5 MP..
Most likely, Google is making a limited profit with this device because they just want to get it out there.
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The catch is they know you will buy apps. + you may be tempted to get one for other peeps in your life as they are cheap and its xmas time. These peeps, will also buy apps.
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That's what I'm thinking. I'm sure the bulk of their profit from Android is based on the play store. Lower the cost of phones, get them in to the hands of more people, and in turn the people buy more apps from the play store. There's their profit:thumbup:
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Cost for making an iPhone 5 is $389.XX. Read it in the Time magazine. This may answer the question.
Its not marketing.. its just how they do money. Google is the second most profitable company in the world. And now of that was accomplished by selling hardware. Selling hardware at cost that boosts their income method is the best way to stay in "what they best". Plus it has some perks like happy customers, injected competition and market confidence.
On the other side of the medal, you have apple, the most profitable company in the world, that makes their money on high margin.
Both ways are legit ways to make money, but me, personally I prefer the half priced one
No, catch. Like what others have posted Google wants people using their ecosystem.
I think its great they are pricing it at cost probably, I'm sure there is profit but very little. I'm tiredof carriers and manufacturers raping customers with their crazy markups.
I've never had my phone battery go bad on me. The battery is easily accessible via 2 screws on bottom of phone, no biggie.
LTE is not really a deal breaker for me, I'm in las Vegas and get 14mbps on T-mobiles faux G.
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L90 for 99 bux hurry up !!

All,
tmobile lowered the price on the l90 from 220 to 99
i dont know for how long so, i hunt for one today locally and no luck
out of stock... but they stock them daily... ups get the shipments on the local branches
between 10 am and 2 pm so you can be at 10 at the branch and hunt for the ups truck
what i did is go to best buy and they got them in stock locally at 179... but they will price match.. so they price match mine
also you can go on the tmobile site and get it there... i prefered to get it locally but online was my plan b
in case i cant get it locally
at 100 bux is a no brainer
is the moto g similar to the l90 ?
Enjoy
Rolo.
Picked up one for my son a couple days ago. I went in to get him a Sammy Galaxy Light cuz it's only $100, and they pointed out the L90 being on sale for the same price. Like you said - no brainer.
snagged one
I got one this past weekend, pretty nice device.... Waiting to hear when more come in to upgrade a relative too..... Motorola should take note on how SD cards are suppose to work in phones, Moto G LTE is a nightmare......
I'm super happy with mine...already rooted it
And supposedly boot unlocked...now imnwaiting for a stable version of cm11
Picked one up today to replace my Xperia ion from AT&T. Kinda nervous about its data speeds, but I'm beyond excited about ir. My achilles heel is remote controls; my tv remote covers my tv power, volume, and input switching, I use the u-verse app or real remote for u-verse tv but it doesn't do volume, and I use keyboard or app for my openelec xbmc htpc. While I anticipate some fumbling between apps, at least I can do it all with one device.
I got 7-10 Mbit dl speeds where i live and 2mbit up speeds....love the remote app but it only have major manufacturer of LCD listed so if u have a Westinghouse...insignia or Emerson or haier u are out of luck
great phone, fast, light, decent camera.
one HUGE issue (other than lack of XDA type development): Battery life is extremely unpredictable.
sometime it can go 3 days (72 hours) between charge with 1-2 hrs screen on time, wifi + 3g.
sometime it'll die in 12 hrs with 0 screen on time, 0 usage.
"Android OS" is shown as biggest battery drain but thanks to google's infinite wisdom to block battery/wakelock viewing, I can't figure out what's causing it. Full factory reset with no account syncing doesn't help.
likely cause is bad wifi driver because when it's in death mode, wifi refuses to connect to network and have to be cycled off/on.
TL;DR: Warning, your $100 phone may run out of battery under 12 hours with zero usage.
maxolini said:
All,
tmobile lowered the price on the l90 from 220 to 99
i dont know for how long so, what i did is go to best buy and they got them in stock locally at 179... but they will price match.. so they price match mine
at 100 bux is a no brainer
is the moto g similar to the l90 ?
Enjoy
Rolo.
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Rolo... Just wanted to give you a big THANK YOU!
Dude... I had just run across this device surfing the web yesterday and decided to give it a try.. From what I read, it was a pretty good device for under $200.00..
Then checking here to see if there was any development going on with it, I ran across your "Heads-Up" post..
Dude.. you saved me $88.00 Bucks!!!
BestBuy price matched for me as well..
I was able to get a New Edger, and a set of Wheels for my Lawn Mower with $35.00 bucks to spare with the savings.... :good:
Thanks to you Rolo.......... Good Reporting My Friend.. after Rooting, Animation Adjustment and Nova Prime, the L90 simply flies
Don't know why some are having such poor battery performance.. mine is great. :good:
RaiderWill said:
Rolo... Just wanted to give you a big THANK YOU!
Dude... I had just run across this device surfing the web yesterday and decided to give it a try.. From what I read, it was a pretty good device for under $200.00..
Then checking here to see if there was any development going on with it, I ran across your "Heads-Up" post..
Dude.. you saved me $88.00 Bucks!!!
BestBuy price matched for me as well..
I was able to get a New Edger, and a set of Wheels for my Lawn Mower with $35.00 bucks to spare with the savings.... :good:
Thanks to you Rolo.......... Good Reporting My Friend.. after Rooting, Animation Adjustment and Nova Prime, the L90 simply flies
Don't know why some are having such poor battery performance.. mine is great. :good:
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Great !!
Hey can u share the tweaks?
Deodex the stock ROM for more freedom on customizing system apps
ruzell said:
Deodex the stock ROM for more freedom on customizing system apps
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that is beyond my knowledge
Very easy to do with tutorials
Do you guys know that T-Mobile sells L90 to their postpaid customers for $24.99?
That's what I call hurry up!
You have to be with t-mo for a year (or so I was told).
L90s are currently backordered.
thanks
Got price-matched at Best Buy, too.
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Got price-matched at Best Buy, too.
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how ???
i can only see the l90 for 99 at tmobile
how to get the 24.99 price ??
maxolini said:
how ???
i can only see the l90 for 99 at tmobile
how to get the 24.99 price ??
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I think what the other poster meant about the $24.99 price is that T-Mobile is only offering it to their contract customers (postpaid) as opposed to their no-contract customers (prepaid). You'd only see the $24.99 price if you were logged into their site and were a contract customer with a year or more history with them.
Ic
thanks
michaelc5047 said:
I think what the other poster meant about the $24.99 price is that T-Mobile is only offering it to their contract customers (postpaid) as opposed to their no-contract customers (prepaid). You'd only see the $24.99 price if you were logged into their site and were a contract customer with a year or more history with them.
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I have the no contract Simple Choice T-Mobile plan, and since I am a valued customer (bills paid all on time for 12 months) my L90 cost me $50 including tax. Still, $50 is an AMAZING deal for this phone (heck, I'd be fine even with the $99 personally).
I picked one of these up this week but the only one I could find required I buy a Sim starter kit ($10) and a $30 Tmobile card. I'm using it on Ultra Mobile so I didn't need those but I'll keep the SIM kit and the family has other plans with Tmobile I can use the $30 on. I purchased an unlock code but didn't even need to unlock it. I think it was unlocked out of the box.
Yeah. I found out when I got mine that the SIM on this phone is smaller than my previous SIM. I got the Boost equivalent for my girl, too, since her phone's battery life sucked.
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