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Found this article on CNEt Asia (hope they don't mind) where there is mor than a rumor that HTCwill provide an extended battery pack, making the device more bulky.
http://asia.cnet.com/digitalliving/ask/0,3800004928,62042419,00.htm
let's hope it comes soon..
If it makes my device as Touch Pro... i prefer to buy a Touch Pro!
One of the things that make Diamond a special device is that it is NOT bulky!
seido will start making these things as well.
for example:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=879
and this doesnot make your diamond more bulky. according to seido they will have accessoires from the end of july.
athanaso77 said:
If it makes my device as Touch Pro... i prefer to buy a Touch Pro!
One of the things that make Diamond a special device is that it is NOT bulky!
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I doubt that an extended battery would almost double the depth of the diamond. (Touch = 1.6x as deep as the Diamond) Even if it did, it would be optional. the keyboard part of the Pro isn't.
Since battey life is my only remaining concern with the Diamond, that 3rd party extended battery is sounding very good...
sandervanzijl said:
seido will start making these things as well.
for example:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=879
and this doesnot make your diamond more bulky. according to seido they will have accessoires from the end of july.
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Niiiceeee! almost twice the juice!
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Niiiceeee! almost twice the juice!
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Shame that's the one for the Touch, then. ;-)
1200 mAh is probably more realistic for a Diamond drop-in replacement.
sandervanzijl said:
seido will start making these things as well.
for example:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=879
and this doesnot make your diamond more bulky. according to seido they will have accessoires from the end of july.
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Though the size and placement of the stock 900mAh battery seems to be impossible to keep the same size for an extended one.
What I heard is that it will "look" (not as ugly) as the 2800mAh battery pack for the TytnII with a OEM back cover holding this chuncky battery.
i guess roughly a 3-4 mm thicker Diamond and +/- 35 gram more heavy.
Let's wait and see
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If it makes my device as Touch Pro... i prefer to buy a Touch Pro!
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found another one with more battery juice to spare!
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/HTC.../HTC_TOUCH_DIAMOND_EXTENDED_LIFE_BATTERY.html
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found another one with more battery juice to spare!
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/HTC.../HTC_TOUCH_DIAMOND_EXTENDED_LIFE_BATTERY.html
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Good search & find ! 2200mAh, now that is what we are talking about!
Looking forward to see how dimensions will be impacted.
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found another one with more battery juice to spare!
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/HTC.../HTC_TOUCH_DIAMOND_EXTENDED_LIFE_BATTERY.html
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did anyone buy the above battery?
Ye I bought it in my vision ...
Stock: Pre Order
Oké, sound nice - 2200 mAh is a big difference like to one we've got. I shall certainly follow this thread!
So for the 2200 battery do you need another back for the diamond? If so, where do you get it from?
Anyway, just posted a question on their side - will let you know the answer...
Extended genuine battery
I 've seen some advertisement quoting an extended battery for Diamond made by HTC, ref below:
htc103383 HTC Diamond Extenden battery 1340 mAh+ Battery Cover Black
the capacity should be fine and not transforming it into a bulky device.
HTH.
After 3 days of (intensive) use, I can see that a bigger battery is a must.
Of course, given the choice I'd go for the 2200
papimuzo said:
I 've seen some advertisement quoting an extended battery for Diamond made by HTC, ref below:
htc103383 HTC Diamond Extenden battery 1340 mAh+ Battery Cover Black
the capacity should be fine and not transforming it into a bulky device.
HTH.
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This is indeed in line with whath the Sales supervisor of HTC told nme earlier today here in Taiwan.
Though he was not sure if it was 1.200 mAh or more, the back would not become as thick as a TytnII.
Stock should be available from HTC genuine in around 2 weeks.
Taiwan has NO specific Diamond accesories YET as the device itself is delayed for launch for TW and China (bug's in device and QC does not release / produce them yet)
From the mouth of the horse as we speak.
Having just pre-ordered a Diamond dock - I'm hoping that it doesnt increase the size much otherwise it wont fit in!
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Having just pre-ordered a Diamond dock - I'm hoping that it doesnt increase the size much otherwise it wont fit in!
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I think i read they made a provision for it. Also the dock can charge a seconds battery. I'm still debating weather to buy a second slim battery or a fat one.
Well right now my Samsung Captivate is my phone. I hate it to death. I find Android way too buggy. I don't like Apples hardware (small screen, so boxy) and the iOS looks too busy to me. Blackberry doesn't have enough apps and Palm (I'm sorry, HP), well, lets just leave them out of this.
So that leaves Windows Phone. I've been researching it for awhile, and being a graphic designer, I really love how the os looks and how it functions. I am on AT&T, and have heard good things about the HD7. The HD7S for AT&T brings the better screen, and I've also heard the camera is improved (although still 5MP.)
However....I've heard lots of horror stories about battery life. I'm not sure if NoDo improved it at all, that would also be nice to find out. Googling it has been inconclusive. The HD7S comes with the same 1230mAh battery, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience specially with the HD7 and this (or a similar) 1700mAh battery? Any help, thoughts, comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
edit: Apparently since I'm new I can't post links. But anyways, just type in "1700mah battery hd7" on ebay, and it should come up, from Great Britain.
My suggestion would be to purchase it, and test it for a days against the original, and then post your results back here.
Although it will fit without the need for a back cover, I highly doubt it has a charge life of 1700mAh! But im willing to be proved wrong if you want to buy and test for the community...
He doesn't own the phone yet though he says he's thinking of getting it. Adam you're right to be a bit concerned about the 1230 battery. If you use the phone heavily it will struggle to last the day. But if you check Amazon the reviews day the 1500 batteries are in fact worse coz they're not as good quality as OEM HTC. I'd recommend yo leave the hd7 and look at the Samsung omnia 7 I wish id done this
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My suggestion would be to purchase it, and test it for a days against the original, and then post your results back here.
Although it will fit without the need for a back cover, I highly doubt it has a charge life of 1700mAh! But im willing to be proved wrong if you want to buy and test for the community...
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Yea, probably a good idea. I've heard some people are fine with the battery life.
He doesn't own the phone yet though he says he's thinking of getting it. Adam you're right to be a bit concerned about the 1230 battery. If you use the phone heavily it will struggle to last the day. But if you check Amazon the reviews day the 1500 batteries are in fact worse coz they're not as good quality as OEM HTC. I'd recommend you leave the hd7 and look at the Samsung omnia 7 I wish id done this
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Hmm. That phone does look great. And for an unlocked price it's quite affordable. I also like that it has a super AMOLED screen. That's what my captivate has, and it's the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device (besides the iPhone 4.) The blacks just blend into the bezel, the colors are vibrant, and the viewing angles are fantastic. Will this phone fully work with AT&T 3G? (7.2MBP). If it does, I think it just replaced the HD7 for Windows Phone candidate.
Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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Completely understand that. When I got my HD7 I was amazed by the OS, and the UI, but after a couple of months it does wear off and then you care more about the apps which are lacking. Some blow the iPhone/Android versions away like IMDB and Facebook. But then there's no Amazon app in the UK yet and the eBay app is a bit iffy. Games are another problem, there's the odd good indie gaming coming through like NinjaBoy and Mars Runner, but not many others. Rest of the games are Microsoft's xbox-branded titles but they are usually very overpriced.
The reason I'd recommend the Samsung is the great screen like you say, and the touch screen will hopefully be better than the HD7 which isn't perfect.
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Yea, probably a good idea. I've heard some people are fine with the battery life.
Hmm. That phone does look great. And for an unlocked price it's quite affordable. I also like that it has a super AMOLED screen. That's what my captivate has, and it's the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device (besides the iPhone 4.) The blacks just blend into the bezel, the colors are vibrant, and the viewing angles are fantastic. Will this phone fully work with AT&T 3G? (7.2MBP). If it does, I think it just replaced the HD7 for Windows Phone candidate.
Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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The HD7S doesnt have a SAMOLED screen... it just has a superlcd screen... lot different.
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Completely understand that. When I got my HD7 I was amazed by the OS, and the UI, but after a couple of months it does wear off and then you care more about the apps which are lacking. Some blow the iPhone/Android versions away like IMDB and Facebook. But then there's no Amazon app in the UK yet and the eBay app is a bit iffy. Games are another problem, there's the odd good indie gaming coming through like NinjaBoy and Mars Runner, but not many others. Rest of the games are Microsoft's xbox-branded titles but they are usually very overpriced.
The reason I'd recommend the Samsung is the great screen like you say, and the touch screen will hopefully be better than the HD7 which isn't perfect.
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Well, I was playing with the HD7 today in the Microsoft Store, and I do really like the phone. Plus when I just read an article by Computer World saying:
Android will dominate global smartphone operating system sales over the next four years, while Windows Phone-based Nokia devices will displace other platforms to surge to second place in 2015, Gartner said in a forecast issued Thursday.
The latest Gartner forecast also shows the Apple's iPhone OS will drop to third behind the Windows Phone software in 2015, while Research in Motion's will dip to the fourth spot that year. IDC has forecast the same overall 2015 rankings.
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But Windows Phone's move into second place by 2015 is the biggest change from prior forecasts. "Gartner has revised its forecast of Windows Phone's market share upward, solely by virtue of Microsoft's alliance with Nokia," Gartner said in a statement.
Gartner analyst Roberta Cozza explained the Windows Phone growth, noting that Nokia will be able to sell Windows Phones at lower prices than many smartphones sold today and to sell them globally through an extensive sales channel.
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So these make me feel more confident that more apps are going to be coming. Also, apparently the Omnia 7 is the Samsung Focus in the US, and the Focus looks butt ugly in my opinion, so I'm gonna stick with the HD7S I think. I could import it from the UK, but then it would be more expensive since it wouldn't be on contract.
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So these make me feel more confident that more apps are going to be coming. Also, apparently the Omnia 7 is the Samsung Focus in the US, and the Focus looks butt ugly in my opinion, so I'm gonna stick with the HD7S I think. I could import it from the UK, but then it would be more expensive since it wouldn't be on contract.
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I'm pretty sure the cases are different and the Omnia feels a lot more expensive to hold in the hand, if that helps at all.
I'm annoyed with my HD7 as I'm considering selling it, but the sharp edge at the bottom has some chips in it even though I've looked after it. That's gonna affect trade in value and it's only a few months old. Think it will always happen due to the design of the phone.
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I'm pretty sure the cases are different and the Omnia feels a lot more expensive to hold in the hand, if that helps at all.
I'm annoyed with my HD7 as I'm considering selling it, but the sharp edge at the bottom has some chips in it even though I've looked after it. That's gonna affect trade in value and it's only a few months old. Think it will always happen due to the design of the phone.
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What do you mean by it had chips in it because of the sharp edges?
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What do you mean by it had chips in it because of the sharp edges?
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Look at a picture of the HD7 and you'll see the top and bottom have grills surrounded by a sharp edge of metal. This is painted, so it chips easily - well it does on my phone anyway.
Knowing this I wish I'd put my phone in a case but my iPhone wasn't in a case and held up much better.
I do not believe that the Omnia 7 will work in the US at all. I may be wrong on this but I know that it will not work here in Canada at all.
The Hardware, etc of the Samsung Focus is indeed the same as the Omnia 7 and the one plus about the Focus is that it has an external sd card slot to expand memory where the Omnia 7 does not however... I agree... The Focus is one UGLY phone!!!
I have an HD7 with regular screen and yes... After having my Galaxy S and my Nexus S with SAMOLED screens, you can definitely tell the difference in color, brightness, etc but it is really NOT all that BAD so at this time I would recommend the HD7S with the S-LCD screen from ATT and I think you will be happy.
PS... Buy me one with the S-LCD screen and ship it to me here in Canada... LOL!!!
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I do not believe that the Omnia 7 will work in the US at all. I may be wrong on this but I know that it will not work here in Canada at all.
The Hardware, etc of the Samsung Focus is indeed the same as the Omnia 7 and the one plus about the Focus is that it has an external sd card slot to expand memory where the Omnia 7 does not however... I agree... The Focus is one UGLY phone!!!
I have an HD7 with regular screen and yes... After having my Galaxy S and my Nexus S with SAMOLED screens, you can definitely tell the difference in color, brightness, etc but it is really NOT all that BAD so at this time I would recommend the HD7S with the S-LCD screen from ATT and I think you will be happy.
PS... Buy me one with the S-LCD screen and ship it to me here in Canada... LOL!!!
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Haha yea, that's the plan. (Not shipping it to Canada though ) It comes out June 5, but I'm gonna wait until June 6 to buy it since Apple is having their conference, and I want to see what the the new iPhone will have to offer.
Mugen doesn't have any extended batteries for the Note 2. Any other producer offering these so far?
Did you even TRY to look at the many thread about this?
白い熊 said:
Mugen doesn't have any extended batteries for the Note 2. Any other producer offering these so far?
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search "air strike" in this forum, lol :silly:
I agree with both of you that it's damn irritating when an idiot keeps asking the question that's been asked a hundred times before...
The problem here is that if you browse the forum on the phone itself via either the xda or the xda hd app, their search functions are crippled, and you can't search in a forum. So the search gives you a million useless results from other forums.
Thus the only solution, it seems to me, is to just keep leafing through the forum threads manually and it doesn't seem to be easy to identify a result...
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I agree with both of you that it's damn irritating when an idiot keeps asking the question that's been asked a hundred times before...
The problem here is that if you browse the forum on the phone itself via either the xda or the xda hd app, their search functions are crippled, and you can't search in a forum. So the search gives you a million useless results from other forums.
Thus the only solution, it seems to me, is to just keep leafing through the forum threads manually and it doesn't seem to be easy to identify a result...
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No hard feeling, we all have time when it's unbelievably hard to find something (like a remote control of the TV lol) :highfive:
I do believe that it is better to give out information than to educate. No offense to #2 post though.
I found one here:
http://www.batterybay.net/Battery-for-Samsung-GT-N7100-p/samsung-cs-smn710hl.htm
But didn't try yet. Just for your reference.
Thanks. As a matter of fact I searched on ebay and bought one 8500 mAh one from Singapore, waiting for it to arrive...
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And you know why....
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Thanks. As a matter of fact I searched on ebay and bought one 8500 mAh one from Singapore, waiting for it to arrive...
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How did it go? They're getting more common on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8500mAh-...ies&hash=item27cd06d0c3&_uhb=1#ht_1859wt_1163
Just got it this week. Have to say awesome, lasts forever, the design of the back cover is elegant and the phone is much more pleasant to hold in your hand.
白い熊 said:
Just got it this week. Have to say awesome, lasts forever, the design of the back cover is elegant and the phone is much more pleasant to hold in your hand.
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How much more does the phone weigh?
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8500 mah battery - Is that even necessary? Do you really go that long without your charger?
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Yes, it's really necessary. I use tte phone all day long, it's on permanently, screen on, without the charger.
That's why this battery is a godsend.
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How much more does the phone weigh?
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It's non noticeably heavier to me. But it weighs more, don't know how much.
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It's non noticeably heavier to me. But it weighs more, don't know how much.
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Can you post a photo ?
As ridiculous as it may seem, I kind of want one!
Maybe tomorrow. I was very surprised though how elegant the phone looks with this battery. It's the new back cover, has very smooth curves, I like it a lot...
I'm a heavy user, I love my 4600mah battery for my gs3, looks like I get the gn2 tomorrow; so i'm looking at this battery and drooling. I know exactly what you mean about fitting in your hand. I spend my time doing anything from navigation while making phone calls or streaming music, extensive skype usage, constantly in my browser.. fpse is my favorite pastime (and, in fact, why i want this phone, the extra screen will be perfect for gaming those dusty ps1 games in the closet). I've been known to blast my hulu or netflix anytime anywhere, and i like my screen on bright, with all my services running like gps constantly. I get 10-12hrs of screen time depending on my usage..
any way we could get some benchmarks? how much screen on time are we talking? are you gaming, or just reading a book, or streaming video?
No, I don't feel like benchmarking anything.
Basically I can confirm though that this battery is supposedly almost 3x the capacity of the stock one, and based on my experience so far this is indeed so. Thus, I think it's a high quality battery, and whatever you're doing with the phone, you'll be able to do almost three times as long.
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I personally think extended batteries are not required for the Note 2, so far this is the best Android phone I have ever used and the battery lasts a day under heavy usage...
Phyllis Dinse said:
These are extended batteries for the Note 2. I bought one and brought it to everywhere to charger my phone. It is so convenience.
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OT, these are not extended batteries, these are external.
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Hey guys. I have done some looking and cant seem to find an extended battery case (as in plugs into the micro usb port) Has anyone been able to find one? On stock Rom with powe saving mode on I lose about 10 percent in 35-40 mins of screen on time at low brightness, which is pretty bad. A extra battery would be Extremely welcome! please link below if you are able to find one! ay alternatives?
Thanks in advance,
The_Victorian
Read some reviews and pick one; preferably bigger than 4000 mA.
On second thought, I guess you're looking for those models similar to Iphone battey cases. sorry , No idea where to find one, and I don't think these general power banks are too inconvenient to use
seekfind said:
Read some reviews and pick one; preferably bigger than 4000 mA.
On second thought, I guess you're looking for those models similar to Iphone battey cases. sorry , No idea where to find one, and I don't think these general power banks are too inconvenient to use
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Yeah I was looking for an integrated iPhone-type case. I have a few of the external ones, but they aren't really practical on the go. I did find one case but it was 90$ so that's not a viable option...
Can you link me to that? I might try to get one.
*Edit*: Found it, http://mugen.co/mugen-power-4000mah-protective-battery-case-for-htc-desire-816.html, makes the phone look huge and hideous though
As most of you may have noticed, with the OP3 going out of production and the arrival of the 3T, one thing has remained strikingly similar. And that sometimes could lead to upgrades on users' current phones that are the OnePlus 3.
Just like HTC with the One X and the One X+, the bigger battery from the X+ yielded much greater performance in the battery department and surprisingly in the heat department too. The battery from the OP3T (disassembly and analysis is awaited) could potentially be used in our phone for greater (than usual) battery performance.
The structure of the housing looks to be the same, and the way the OP3 is built, the housings are merely just shells to wrap around the internals, nothing major (like the iPhone) so the Gun Metal casing could potentially be transferred over to the OP3.
This is all just based on speculation however. Time will tell when eventually iFixit or someone else performs a teardown.
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Wouldn't say no to a bigger battery but time will tell
Same thought here as well,
I've been doing iphone parts repair n replacement for years,,
And what ive been doing quite often recently was placing an iphone 6+ battery to iphone 6s+,
The benefit is, the older model has slightly bigger battery, thus giving better battery life,
Hopefully OP using same connector for both OP3 & OP3T and hopefully the voltage spec didn't altered much. So that the tinkering one can see what can be achieved
Also wouldn't say no to a bigger battery but it's a moot point at this time since OP won't be selling it independently. Was just talking to Jeff on live chat and he said that they have no plans on selling any phone parts. Also, it's incompatible.
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Also wouldn't say no to a bigger battery but it's a moot point at this time since OP won't be selling it independently. Was just talking to Jeff on live chat and he said that they have no plans on selling any phone parts. Also, it's incompatible.
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That's a real bummer. However I'm sure part resellers (like some of them do) will be buying phones to take them apart and then resell parts.
Someone in the Reddit AMA recently noted that the battery does fit - OnePlus agreed more or less that it's merely just a more dense cell. Which is great news!
Where did you get that info? If it's compatible that would be huge. Only thing from that phone I would like is that battery! :fingers-crossed:
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Where did you get that info? If it's compatible that would be huge. Only thing from that phone I would like is that battery! :fingers-crossed:
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A user on Reddit stated that the battery does indeed fit and OnePlus (Carl or Pete) said that the battery is the same with more dense cells to increase capacity while maintaining the size
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A user on Reddit stated that the battery does indeed fit and OnePlus (Carl or Pete) said that the battery is the same with more dense cells to increase capacity while maintaining the size
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In this case size doesn't matter. It's still incompatible with OP3. Aaron mentioned it. Screenshot attached.
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In this case size doesn't matter. It's still incompatible with OP3. Aaron mentioned it. Screenshot attached.
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I wouldn't blindly trust that statement. The battery most likely works if it fits. Of course it's also possible that the battery management system (BMS) would notice that the battery doesn't match preprogrammed values and that would render the battery incompatible but I doubt that. I would guess though that the the extra capacity would be wasted. I don't know where the BMS is implemented but it would need to be changed as well to get the new battery fully charged to its higher voltage. The old BMS would stop charging sooner and the capacity would be the same as in OP3.
Guess we'll have to wait for the teardown to be sure or maybe some brave soul to try it out for us.
Also a quote from reddit
I think it will work just fine because the phone charges until a certain voltage is reached. So the nominal Wh of the OP3T battery in OP3 will be 12.92Wh instead of 13.09Wh (that the battery of OP3T is capable of). Now, the OP3 has 11.4Wh so it will be an improvement.
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I DMed Zach from JRE and we discussed other scenarios. I did tell him that the battery charges until the battery controller chip knows the battery reaches maximum charge. Looks like the battery definitely works! This is great news. And it shouldn't void warranty either, I took a look inside and there's only one warranty sticker which doesn't get pierced after changing the battery. I guess you could keep the old one safe incase anything happens.
Now to wait for batteries to surface
That's great news indeed. I'm now only concerned about the lowest safe voltage that the new battery can reach. If it's the same as the old one then there's nothing wrong with just swapping it but otherwise it could discharge to the point of not being able to be charged again. That's without software tweaks ofcourse. Could you also ask this question too? That would probably alleviate any potential dangers of it being swapped before anyone builds software to support it.