Hey guys i just wanna know is it possible to purchase the Droid 3 in Denmark without its locked to a carrier? and will it work with the types of SIM cards that can be found here?
thanks
Most europeans either buy from ebay or from here:
https://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt862-droid-3-verizon.html
It works for me in the netherlands, so I don't see how it wouldn't work in Denmark.
There have been some issues with certain providers though, so I can't say i'm 100% sure
DoubleYouPee said:
Most europeans either buy from ebay or from here:
https://negrielectronics.com/motorola-xt862-droid-3-verizon.html
It works for me in the netherlands, so I don't see how it wouldn't work in Denmark.
There have been some issues with certain providers though, so I can't say i'm 100% sure
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that site you've linked, you've ever bought from that?
Jakk212 said:
that site you've linked, you've ever bought from that?
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Yes i bought mine from that site. Great site, service and shiptment. I would definitely recommend it
same here. also from Negri... unlocked XT862. very good service.
Alright thanks gonna save up for this baby ( my samsung Galaxy Tab is nice, but not that easy to have with ya)
try to buy the unlocked version..because some unlock codes do not work.
the import taxes are huge...to Europe
bogdan_wrc said:
try to buy the unlocked version..because some unlock codes do not work.
the import taxes are huge...to Europe
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I bought mine 2 weeks ago but haven't seen any additional costs (YET )
i had to pay the CUSTOMS tax....
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i had to pay the CUSTOMS tax....
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When? Immediately?
yeap. when i picked up the package.
if you use negri's site to calculate shipping..i think it uses also the CUSTOMS. or..to be sure..try http://www.borderlinx.com/
Oh, shouldn't have said anything. Today I get a letter.. €100 costs
hahaha...sorry mate!
Hello dear neighbour! I bought mine from negri, and didn't have to pay customs etc, it's basically luck or bad luck.
Visit www.tradera.com (swedish auction site) there's one for sale right now.
contact the seller and ask him if he'd be able to send it to denmark!
Furthermore, i love the device, it's the quickest one i've held in my hands. The battery sucks tho, will last a day if you barley use it. Half day if you're using it all the time.
The screen is awesome, the phone doesn't scratch anywhere besides on the camera.
Typing from the droid, awesome keyboard.
Also, i've had no problems with simcards. Great reception and i managed to get 4.5mbit/s with tptest while in my car. If there's any questions, ask! I just enjoyed writing a long reply and abusing my keyboard lol.
I also have an as new unlocked D3 I can ship to you from England
Thanks
Thanks for the answers, think that will be my next mobile once i've have the money
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I've heard lots of people here talking about buying their kaisers for $200, EVEN $99!! Where on Earth do you find such a good deal? I have been in the market for weeks on Ebay and can only find ones for $500+. Does anyone have some advice for me on where I can pick one up for at most $400? Anyone selling or know of somebody selling theirs? I don't care if it isn't unlocked or still has the AT&T ROM... I can manage that. Anyways, I could really use some insight from you people. Any info would help. Thanks!
i just sent you a pm
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i just sent you a pm
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plz, sent me PM.
pm
yes let me know as well please
Actually I would be interested to know where you can get a Kaiser for such low prices. Preferably in Europe/UK though. Any suggestions??
well am selling mine for £200 (about $400) it has marks on it hence the low price. pm me if you want more info
I didn't know if there was already a thread for a topic like this. Looks like others are in the same boat as me.
i tried to put a tread on about selling my kaiser before but no one was interested then. so hopefuly i will sell it now
ebay
It's where i got mine from... £300 in november
if in the US (may work elsewhere too), you can get in on Amazon for $149 with contract renewal or new contract
http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-Tilt-Sma...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1200335133&sr=8-1
also to me...
thanks
Orangle love me long time, so gave me mine for free
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if in the US (may work elsewhere too), you can get in on Amazon for $149 with contract renewal or new contract
http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-Tilt-Sma...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1200335133&sr=8-1
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I live in Canada, is there someway of getting around this?
aye am going to put it on ebay tomorrow for £250-£300 just thought i would offer you guys here at xda-devs a chance to get one cheaper
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I live in Canada, is there someway of getting around this?
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Do you have ATT service in your area? if so, then you should be able to buy it too. I only said US only because I wasn't sure if the deal would apply to other countries as well. Since it does ask for a zip code to verify availablity I would assume it would work in canada as well. Try it, see if it accepts your zip.
send a PM to me too, i want where can i buy it to
Steal it at HTC manufacture !!! just kidding
AT&T is only for US residents
*sigh*
I guess I'll keep searching ebay.
ill put mine up on the chopping block for $400... its in great condition...
mines got the ab-fab wifi router working on it...
smittyofdhs said:
if in the US (may work elsewhere too), you can get in on Amazon for $149 with contract renewal or new contract
http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-Tilt-Sma...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1200335133&sr=8-1
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Newegg has a little bit of a better deal. Comes out to $129 after all rebates. You can get a free bluetooth headset too during the checkout although you do have to pay $5 shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875998228
I'll be arriving to Singapore next Saturday (31st) and staying until the evening of the 6th... Will I be able to find the Diamond anywhere there? Any forum members based in Singapore could please advise (when, where etc.?) ...
Regards,
Gary.
So you're visiting singapore.. where are you actually from? It seems to be coming out in most markets around 6th june anyway. I guess you may save some tax if u just carry it in and keep quiet, but most likely that'll be canceled out by the over the odds price you may have to pay to get it right away.
Beloved S'pore isn't really a good place to buy phones - by far too expansive.
one of the cheapest places for htc devices is still Germany and other countries across Europe (additionally you will get 2 years warranty!)
regards
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So you're visiting singapore.. where are you actually from? It seems to be coming out in most markets around 6th june anyway. I guess you may save some tax if u just carry it in and keep quiet, but most likely that'll be canceled out by the over the odds price you may have to pay to get it right away.
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Thanks, I may just miss it then (or, maybe I'll extend my stay in Singapore to cover Saturday the 7th also ),
Originally from the UK, I'm now based in Switzerland. I'm over there to do some training for a week,
It's not so much saving or not; to order locally is a pain when you don't want it preloaded in German or French. When ordering in English, it can take a while to arrive (as was the case with the TyTN II when I purchased it a few months ago) and it's no cheaper since you can't order an English (i.e. non-standard) phone with a contract.
Frankly, it's easier to walk into Sim Lim or where ever, just pick one up and avoid the troubles.
Gary.
gxprice said:
Thanks, I may just miss it then (or, maybe I'll extend my stay in Singapore to cover Saturday the 7th also ),
Originally from the UK, I'm now based in Switzerland. I'm over there to do some training for a week,
It's not so much saving or not; to order locally is a pain when you don't want it preloaded in German or French. When ordering in English, it can take a while to arrive (as was the case with the TyTN II when I purchased it a few months ago) and it's no cheaper since you can't order an English (i.e. non-standard) phone with a contract.
Frankly, it's easier to walk into Sim Lim or where ever, just pick one up and avoid the troubles.
Gary.
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omg ive been to sim lim
it is THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD!!!
[sorry]
rorydaredkign said:
omg ive been to sim lim
it is THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD!!!
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Ah...I think you've told me about that place. We must go to the Singapore GP one year...
I think it will be available first in HK....
sectorlord said:
I think it will be available first in HK....
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well im in AUS and i have mine
where did you get it from?
so jelous
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where did you get it from?
so jelous
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from a mate who owns a distrbuting company...
oh, so is it _actually_ out, or he got you it early?
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oh, so is it _actually_ out, or he got you it early?
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yes it is "actually" out...
best thing about singapore, and in no particular order
1) simlim square
2) clarke quay
3) geylang
Some websites which you may use as a reference, you can contact them via email with regards to your enquiry, prices listed are for phones without the need to signup any contract/plan with any telcos.
(in no particular order too )
http://www.whymobile.com
http://www.mobilesquare.com.sg/
http://iposh.livejournal.com/
jasjamming said:
best thing about singapore, and in no particular order
1) simlim square
2) clarke quay
3) geylang
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LOL, the #3 is probably #1, is that what u really meant?
jasjamming said:
best thing about singapore, and in no particular order
1) simlim square
2) clarke quay
3) geylang
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Not to mention funan shopping mall.
roomer11 said:
Some websites which you may use as a reference, you can contact them via email with regards to your enquiry, prices listed are for phones without the need to signup any contract/plan with any telcos.
(in no particular order too )
http://www.whymobile.com
http://www.mobilesquare.com.sg/
http://iposh.livejournal.com/
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Thanks very much for this - they don't currently have the Diamond listed as a new phone but I'll contact via email
Regards,
Gary.
Any online vendor in Australia ? who ships to India?
Australia may have it already, but Hong Kong as had it for two weeks already.
One thing is for sure, HK is the cheapest. I just got mine for HKD 2680. That's AUD359, SGD 467.
This is not an insiders deal, I just walked in off the street. HK puts everyone to shame (in more ways than one).
princi said:
Australia may have it already, but Hong Kong as had it for two weeks already.
One thing is for sure, HK is the cheapest. I just got mine for HKD 2680. That's AUD359, SGD 467.
This is not an insiders deal, I just walked in off the street. HK puts everyone to shame (in more ways than one).
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Well, I am also from HK. Diamond only came out last saturday (May 31) and from what I know HK$2680 is subsidized price ,i.e. you have to sign 12/18 months contracts with the telco (CSL, One2Free).
So i am the owner of a Diamond now.
The thing is i have 2 old HTC's of which both have a broken screen, maybe someone in 'the scene' can find a good use for them.
I am offering a t-mobile(nl) branded kaiser with a broken screen to the first one that wants to pay shipment!
so be quick!
I've been looking for this (see my signature). PM sent.
Where are you shipping from? And how are you willing to accept payment? I'm willing to paypal you money for that.
ok i am shipping from holland. I don't know if it will be fair if i make a action out of it.
but just out of couriousity what will a kaiser with broken screen go for these days?
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ok i am shipping from holland. I don't know if it will be fair if i make a action out of it.
but just out of couriousity what will a kaiser with broken screen go for these days?
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I'm not exactly sure, however from what i see is around $40 or so. I have a friend selling his Kaiser with a broken keyboard for 40 and another person PMed me with a cracked screen for that price as well.
luxxx said:
ok i am shipping from holland. I don't know if it will be fair if i make a action out of it.
but just out of couriousity what will a kaiser with broken screen go for these days?
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Not sure what you mean action, but you did offer it for free + shipping. Kareem would have dibs on it in my opinion. And it's a little late to see what you can sell it for. (in my opinion again)
Shipping from Holland? Ur profile has you down as Fido.ca (canada) and you have the USA flag. lol
I'm just looking for any Kaiser to flash ROMs on. I hate flashing ROMs and hours of testing on my single Kaiser as it gets tedious to recustomize everything. As long as it's flashable, i'm okay. If you end up wanting to sell it, that is your business and i wouldn't interfere.
Lol peterfnet, it's when people register and forget to change it so i think he hasn't gotten a chance to change it. When i saw the (nl) his post, i knew it would be coming from the Netherlands area .
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Lol peterfnet, it's when people register and forget to change it so i think he hasn't gotten a chance to change it. When i saw the (nl) his post, i knew it would be coming from the Netherlands area .
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I was hoping he was an early adopter that paid for some Euro version and was a Canadian that left for the fantastic US of A
haha the great us of a i just love my little pod smoking social country
Anyways i decided to keep my promiss, and offer it to the first one that reacts and is willing to pay for shipping.
in this case that is kareem, and nr 2 is lfuc!
Where in Holland are you?
You have a pm.
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Not sure what you mean action, but you did offer it for free + shipping. Kareem would have dibs on it in my opinion. And it's a little late to see what you can sell it for. (in my opinion again)
Shipping from Holland? Ur profile has you down as Fido.ca (canada) and you have the USA flag. lol
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well people are allowed to change their mind.
unbrick your tytn2 (kaiser) and buya new screen for 15 euro!!then sold it!
grow up your experience with this xda!!it's beautiful but you MUST BE not religious
um.....oh yes and I hear the daises are blooming in the red square this time of the year, but be careful not to trip over the crocodiles.
(Forgot who said that originally)
luxxx said:
So i am the owner of a Diamond now.
The thing is i have 2 old HTC's of which both have a broken screen, maybe someone in 'the scene' can find a good use for them.
I am offering a t-mobile(nl) branded kaiser with a broken screen to the first one that wants to pay shipment!
so be quick!
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Hey,
Do you still have the phone? As my tytn (I) is having some problems.
I also live in the netherlands, so shipping wouldn't be a problem.
I only want to know if i should sell it or throw it away.. if it's worth it... don't want to sell it here. Sorry if that thread seems to.
I bought a droid 3 on ebay, unfortunately i was not able to remove the subsidy lock
When i bought it, it was brand new. I only tried 2 codes, they didn't work. Bad luck for me.
I've never made any modifications to the software or hardware.
The specs:
Model: Xt862
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
ESN: good (i looked it up on verizon wireless' official website)
Condition: very good, not a single scrach or any damages.
Batteries: 3 (manufactured by motorola, they work without problems)
No instructions or anything else..
I live in europe (Austria) so i cannot retrieve any codes from verizon, only a customer of them can do that. So the value would be reduced to the minimum or nothing right? I got a new phone from samsung for free from my carrier "Telekom Austria" so no need for this cell phone any more. I don't even know if it is stolen or not, some unlock-code sites said "reported as stolen". Verizon website says it is eligable for activation the seller called verizon, the same answer. I don't want to do any researches to find out if it is stolen or not.. i don't think it is.
So is it worth to sell it or not?
Many thanks in andvance!
PS: sorry for my poor english
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Someone on verizon that won't be traveling it would be fine for since the esn is clean but I don't no about any gsm carrier now since you can't unlock it if your gonna throw it away let me know I would take it to have around the house lol
Sent from my XT883 using XDA
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so maybe i can sell it on ebay .. how much can i get for this cell phone, approximatelly?
Yes, i'll do that but this phone is senseless in every aspect!!! Even a stone is more efficient as a paper weight! and of course much nicer DDD
The worst thing is, there are no alternatives for a qwertz or qwerty keyboard here.. no single phone at any carrier.. what a ...**********. they are too old to get support.. all of them..
googleluca3.2 said:
so maybe i can sell it on ebay .. how much can i get for this cell phone, approximatelly?
Yes, i'll do that but this phone is senseless in every aspect!!! Even a stone is more efficient as a paper weight! and of course much nicer DDD
The worst thing is, there are no alternatives for a qwertz or qwerty keyboard here.. no single phone at any carrier.. what a ...**********. they are too old to get support.. all of them..
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You can definitely sell it. To say it's worthless is ridiculous. Android phones still serve as decent personal media players and gaming devices.
put a price on it, and let me know through a PM, pls.
i will take it of your hands.
i am located pretty close to your country, also.
Donate it to hashcode or some other developer. It might help them help the rest of us.
yes, this is the best idea!
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I only want to know if i should sell it or throw it away.. if it's worth it... don't want to sell it here. Sorry if that thread seems to.
I bought a droid 3 on ebay, unfortunately i was not able to remove the subsidy lock
When i bought it, it was brand new. I only tried 2 codes, they didn't work. Bad luck for me.
I've never made any modifications to the software or hardware.
The specs:
Model: Xt862
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
ESN: good (i looked it up on verizon wireless' official website)
Condition: very good, not a single scrach or any damages.
Batteries: 3 (manufactured by motorola, they work without problems)
No instructions or anything else..
I live in europe (Austria) so i cannot retrieve any codes from verizon, only a customer of them can do that. So the value would be reduced to the minimum or nothing right? I got a new phone from samsung for free from my carrier "Telekom Austria" so no need for this cell phone any more. I don't even know if it is stolen or not, some unlock-code sites said "reported as stolen". Verizon website says it is eligable for activation the seller called verizon, the same answer. I don't want to do any researches to find out if it is stolen or not.. i don't think it is.
So is it worth to sell it or not?
Many thanks in andvance!
PS: sorry for my poor english
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You can sell it on Ebay. How much you brought it for?
Sent from my XT883 using XDA
Including taxes about 300€
without taxes 240 €
seemed to be a very good price..
Have you tried with TurboSIM, more precisely i-SmartSIM (orange)?
In addition to eBay, I would suggest dropping a PM to some of the D3 developers. They may be willing to negotiate a fair price with you, so they can have an extra device to test on, but definitely don't just throw it away...just a thought.
Would really like to buy this phone, been looking on the internet but all the usual suspect like carphone warehouse and phones 4 u don't have this handset, so just a simple question.
Where are people buying their handsets from please?
Many thanks.
PS: I'm in the UK.
EDIT: Just noticed that T-mobile are selling it.
I would buy it on expansys or maybe in German shops...it's no big deal because you live in Europe ...and I think on a t-mobile shop they are really expensive
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
i just picked mine up from t mobile this morning
dladz said:
Would really like to buy this phone, been looking on the internet but all the usual suspect like carphone warehouse and phones 4 u don't have this handset, so just a simple question.
Where are people buying their handsets from please?
Many thanks.
PS: I'm in the UK.
EDIT: Just noticed that T-mobile are selling it.
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Im in Australia you can get it very easy here. Soon the UK will be the same, its an awesome phone get it!! Go to http://www.mobicity.co.uk/samsung.html
And order it right now unlocked
in fact here is the direct link for you http://www.mobicity.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s3-i9305-16gb-uk.html
it works out cheaper to walk into a t mobile store.
cheapest contract is £7 per month (x24) + £350 for phone =£518.00
permanent unlock via ebay £10.95
£528.95 & pick it up today, this is what ive done today
saves £71 & no waiting. HAPPY DAYS
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it works out cheaper to walk into a t mobile store.
cheapest contract is £7 per month (x24) + £350 for phone =£518.00
permanent unlock via ebay £10.95
£528.95 & pick it up today, this is what ive done today
saves £71 & no waiting. HAPPY DAYS
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there you go options all over the place,,,Just dont make any long calls as its $7 per minute
lol JK i dont really know but i would say they will make it up in the call charges..
I love my Non contract, Did you know I have NEVER been in a contract haha. NOT OUNCE. Always prepaid I love to have control over my stuff. If I ever want to recharge I dial the recharge number its automatic select your ammount, comes right out of my debit/savings card.. theres my credit
By the way DLADZ I could not help but notice your signature, That was my favourite rom when I had the GT-I9300.... Lets port it the new king S3 I9305
sorry, thats only if you want the unlocked version in a hurry, can use on any network. my wife is using hers on 02 which doesnt stock it yet.
i got mine free but unlimited everything but costs me £41
im trying to get as many people on this phone, gotta start encouraging the devs to come over to s3 lte bliss!!!!!
mys3 said:
it works out cheaper to walk into a t mobile store.
cheapest contract is £7 per month (x24) + £350 for phone =£518.00
permanent unlock via ebay £10.95
£528.95 & pick it up today, this is what ive done today
saves £71 & no waiting. HAPPY DAYS
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cheaper here http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-4g-titanium-payg
ok OP since you have many locations to buy it from now i think its now time to talk about porting our favourite rom -=FOXHOUND=-
I ordered this phone on eBay here http://www.ebay.com/itm/221134136119?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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I ordered this phone on eBay here http://www.ebay.com/itm/221134136119?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Heyyyy i remember you Your going to get the I9305 ay Good work!! its better then the Korean, because its a little thinner and lighter and does not have useless DMB antenna. And all accessories from I9300 fit perfectly on the I9305 I still have all my covers and cases from my I9300
But I LOVE the Titanium Grey colour and i have an almunium chrome case very sexy together
Looks like this device is becoming popular quick,, good stuff we need more devs buying this device
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Heyyyy i remember you Your going to get the I9305 ay Good work!! its better then the Korean, because its a little thinner and lighter and does not have useless DMB antenna. And all accessories from I9300 fit perfectly on the I9305 I still have all my covers and cases from my I9300
But I LOVE the Titanium Grey colour and i have an almunium chrome case very sexy together
Looks like this device is becoming popular quick,, good stuff we need more devs buying this device
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Yes buddy I agree with you, I'm selling my Korean SGS 3, think that I9305 much better and comfortable:good:
where can i get this phone if I'm in the US
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where can i get this phone if I'm in the US
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shouldnt the question be will it work on US networks? I guess you can use the ebay link on the previous page that is where one user is getting his
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Yes buddy I agree with you, I'm selling my Korean SGS 3, think that I9305 much better and comfortable:good:
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you will not regret it, its a Beautiful device
It works on T-Mobile in USA, but edge only. I can confirm that . Got mine from Negri Electronics
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It works on T-Mobile in USA, but edge only. I can confirm that . Got mine from Negri Electronics
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Ok so By edge does that mean 3G Only? Oh well thats ok for you people in the US I guess.
ITs great that many people seem to be getting this device... THe development is growing, all we need is some great ROM devs to purchase this
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Ok so By edge does that mean 3G Only? Oh well thats ok for you people in the US I guess.
ITs great that many people seem to be getting this device... THe development is growing, all we need is some great ROM devs to purchase this
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no edge isn't even 3G . Hopefully they roll out the 1900mhz network here soon. I know it's already done in Vegas. They need to do it soon, because it would help them with Iphones as well. They are losing a bunch of customers because of this.
ohhh man thats rough... yeh hopefully they roll out the 1900mhz.... I want you guys to enjoy this gem too
Holy shiiiyit, quite a response, i'm guessing that this phone is something to shout about then, so i'll be picking mine up as soon as i can raise the capital, going to try and get orange care too as it's easily the best insurance.
I'm only a few months into my contract with a standard S3 so i'll sell this beauty and I also have a One X to go too, so should be near the mark when it comes to buying.
I don't mind about the lock on the phone, i'm pretty sure that Voodoo will release something.
I appreciate all of your responses and will thank you all but i only get 8 a day so i'll start from the top.
Many thanks.
btemtd said:
Heyyyy i remember you Your going to get the I9305 ay Good work!! its better then the Korean, because its a little thinner and lighter and does not have useless DMB antenna. And all accessories from I9300 fit perfectly on the I9305 I still have all my covers and cases from my I9300
But I LOVE the Titanium Grey colour and i have an almunium chrome case very sexy together
Looks like this device is becoming popular quick,, good stuff we need more devs buying this device
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Hello there m8, how hope your well, in all honesty i'll just buy it from T-mobile, unless Orange have something i can get.
If not then it's online i go, can't stand flea bay and would prefer a nice long warranty if possible, might wait until carphone warehouse have it, should be a couple of weeks, beginning of November, i'll ask Raffa if he's getting one, he should as i imagine the porting process should be a breeze.
PS: Did you say it's actually thinner?? That's mental if it's true, have they changed the cooling method or something?