Touchwiz lags on Galaxy Tab 8.9 (7310) - Galaxy Tab 8.9 General

Hi,
I've posed a question about this issue before, but other than installing a different launcher, has anyone figured out how to make touchwiz smooth as butter like the 10.1?
By the way, I asked Samsung tech support about this issue. They told me to do a hard reset. It didn't fix anything, it still stutters. I've read several reviews and many of them don't mention the lag/stutter. It makes no sense how many people don't mention this issue. I went back to Bestbuy and they had two of them on display. They both stuttered, but the 10.1 on display was smooth. Hopefully ICS will fix the issue.
Thanks,
GP

I just got mine yesterday and it was laggy right out of the box, before I even installed anything. I love Samsung devices and after owning both versions of the Epic 4g, im used to Touchwiz. I was really surprised how laggy and slow it was. I installed ADW launcher and the problem is completely solved. Rooting and flashing a ROM would obviously work as well.
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Actually all tegra 2 tabs have the same problem and unfortunately it seems to be a hardware problem. The only difference with GT8.9 is that it has this problem in landscape and all other tabs have it in portrait. This is because the screen in GT8.9 is rotated 90 degrees.
I have also thought about contacting support about this issue to see what they tell me, but I'm afraid they have no idea why it is like it is, so I haven't seen a point in contacting them.

If you absolutely want to keep TouchWiz, maybe rooting and deleting all the bloatware would speed things up.
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I'am installed Honeycomb 3.2 (3.1 was out in the box) - lags become less.

I also upgraded to HC 3.2 15 minutes after opening box. I've personally never experienced any lag. That's just me. If it gets better than this I'm all in.

poisike said:
Actually all tegra 2 tabs have the same problem and unfortunately it seems to be a hardware problem. The only difference with GT8.9 is that it has this problem in landscape and all other tabs have it in portrait. This is because the screen in GT8.9 is rotated 90 degrees.
I have also thought about contacting support about this issue to see what they tell me, but I'm afraid they have no idea why it is like it is, so I haven't seen a point in contacting them.
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10.1 devices from what i understand are landscape bias, smaller devices like our 8.9 are portrait bias.
As for Touchwiz, its touchwiz, its a laggy overlay that is a completely unnecessary and drains precious resources when we have a usable dailt driver ICS ROM out of the Galaxian Soup? guys. Most of the lag will be gone. Look at the 10.1 ICS alpha ROM, night and day difference

A word to the wise:
Live wallpapers lag the hell out of this tab. Not rooted stock anyways...

Confirming lag out of the box on 8.9 with TouchWiz. If it were not for ADW Launcher EX showing it CAN be smooth, I would have returned the tab.
Why do people like TouchWiz? I don't really understand. Its quite a resource beast for not much functionality.
just my opinion.

Please understand, TouchWiz is not the problem. Try something simple, turn your tab to portrait, now swipe the homescreens... do you see lag? No.
It's hardware problem and all Tegra 2 tabs have this problem, with one big difference, they have this problem in portrait mode and we have it in landscape. On GT8.9 the screen is rotated 90 degrees and thats the reason we have it in landscape.

poisike said:
Please understand, TouchWiz is not the problem. Try something simple, turn your tab to portrait, now swipe the homescreens... do you see lag? No.
It's hardware problem and all Tegra 2 tabs have this problem, with one big difference, they have this problem in portrait mode and we have it in landscape. On GT8.9 the screen is rotated 90 degrees and thats the reason we have it in landscape.
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I think Samsung did that 90 degrees rotation on purpose. They thought people would use the 8.9 more in portrait than in landscape mode due to its hardbook form (reading and some light web browsing). Then they left the landscape mode as the default for the 10.1 thinking its users would tend to use the big screen for movies and such.

nirogu325 said:
I think Samsung did that 90 degrees rotation on purpose. They thought people would use the 8.9 more in portrait than in landscape mode due to its hardbook form (reading and some light web browsing). Then they left the landscape mode as the default for the 10.1 thinking its users would tend to use the big screen for movies and such.
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I agree, it must be for that reason and I do use it mostly in portrai mode.
Honestly the lag with HC3.2 is not that bad. I'm not big in useless customizations but I like the small applications that appear at the center of the tab without closing your current app. It makes writing down notes or calculating something very quick just like in a laptop. I think android should come with their own set of this tiny apps.

nirogu325 said:
I think Samsung did that 90 degrees rotation on purpose. They thought people would use the 8.9 more in portrait than in landscape mode due to its hardbook form (reading and some light web browsing). Then they left the landscape mode as the default for the 10.1 thinking its users would tend to use the big screen for movies and such.
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I would disagree with that since the layout on the 8.9 tab would indicate it was designed for landscape mode. The way the logos are positioned (front and rear), camera position (front and rear), and 30 pin connector location would suggest.
Compare that to the layout of the above items on the GTab 7.7 or smaller GTabs, now those were designed with portrait in mind.
I also had the same crappy lag on tocuhwiz UX with HC 3.1 in both portrait and landscape. I flashed overcome and installed ADW and haven't looked back. The tab rocks now.

I really hope aftermarket and dev support pick up for this.
This would instantly pull me from wanting a Xyboard 8.2
There are some appealing features to me on the 8.2 but it's been DOA for the most part.
With the 8.9 it just worries me the same as the Xyboard. At least there is root and rom. Just need the aftermarket to pick up.
Not gonna lie, a huge basis of my choosing a tab is if I can get a really stout case for it. I need Otterbox or Gumdrop to do something for this tab.
Emailed them both and neither have responded....which isn't really impressive to me considering I've bought three cases from Gumdrop and 4 or 5 from Otterbox...
8" tabs are the future...7" is almost too small and 10" you can only do so much with. 8" is absolutely perfect.

8" tabs are the future...7" is almost too small and 10" you can only do so much with. 8" is absolutely perfect.
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Agreed.
You would think gumdrop would have one on the way for the 8.9 since they did a 10.1 version...I don't like the added thickness so a TPU case works for me.

Also turning of all animations in settings might make the tab more smooth.

I've the same problem. Any solution?

ibanezq said:
I've the same problem. Any solution?
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ADWLauncher EX.
Sent from my SGH-T959.

TouchWiz is simply not usable ...

OK, but how to import a TouchWiz widgets to ADW?

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[Q] Milestone: limited color display abilities?

Lately I've noticed that my Milestone has some problems with displaying colors.
I have attached the screenshot of my home, where you can see terrible transitions between similar hues.
lso, there is wallpaper file attached, which seems to be okay to me.
Is it common with those screens or it's just my Milestone?
my milestone does the same :/ could it be that it does not have 16 million colors?
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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fivefour said:
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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i find it weird that no reviews mentions this or even the specifications sheet, :/ the desire has an 24 bit display?
That's what I thought, pretty much.
Still, it being not mentioned is strange, as it seems to be fairly serious issue. Unless it's possible to convert images with no quality loss visible on the screen.
The proper term is dither, in cyanogen you can enable surface dithering in cyanogen mod settings > performance which should improve image quality at the cost of performance. Not sure about other roms.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
So what gallery could I use to put wallpapers on?
Flikie does pretty much the same, as it uses Froyo gallery.
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
applebook said:
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
jackeh070 said:
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
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i searched for it and it says it only works in 1.x not in 2.x but it works... weird
Chad_Petree said:
if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
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Yeah, I agree. Apparently, Samsung's Galaxy S Gallery is a bit better. Not truly 24-bit, but the Galaxy S adds improved dithering. The Galaxy S, with all of the hype about SAMOLED, is not even a real 24-bit display You Milestone/Droid/Droid 2 folks have the best Android screen, IMO.
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This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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True.
Google is not eager to tell you the answer if you don't exactly know what you are looking for. And for non-technical people it may be hard to guess.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
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i dont know what the droid screen was like but i got a milestone 2(droid 2) yesterday and the screen looks awful on it, nothing but dull colours, i just made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10401973#post10401973

Galaxy tab 8.9 vs 7 plus

Sorry guys for using this section but it is the only one for the 8.9
I would like to buy one tablet but I'm wavering between the 8.9 and the new 7 plus
the 8.9 is cheaper but the 7 plus can make phone call and got a microsd slot
help me to make this choice
thanks
For what will the tablet be used? Will you still carry a separate phone?
usually I carry another phone but in summer a bring on beach just the galaxy tab 7
If you plan using it as an extension then I think you already have made your mind.
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+1 i will go for 8.9 for it bigger screen
I use my Nokia n9 as a phone, my MacBook air as a laptop, my tab 8.9 as a reference material viewer. I think I wouldn't be happy with a 7" screen, my physics books won't view well.
Then again I can't tell until I try it :-D
make phone call is a good features sd the sd slot
I think I will take the 7 plus (7.7 would be perfect but probably will be out on 2012)
I had a 10.1, but sold it for a 7.0 plus, and highly recommend it. The Exynos is screaming fast compared to the Tegra 2. This is especially obvious while playing video.
Video is truly night and day, I can't believe how lousy the Tegra is for that. The 7+ will play any and all video I threw at it. But dang, the size of the 8.9 is perfect. Hopefully Samsung will give it the upgrade and the best of both worlds.
guthrien said:
Video is truly night and day, I can't believe how lousy the Tegra is for that. The 7+ will play any and all video I threw at it. But dang, the size of the 8.9 is perfect. Hopefully Samsung will give it the upgrade and the best of both worlds.
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I agree on all counts. That would be the perfect tablet.
bill.allrobots.org said:
I had a 10.1, but sold it for a 7.0 plus, and highly recommend it. The Exynos is screaming fast compared to the Tegra 2. This is especially obvious while playing video.
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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I am a happy owner of an unrooted 7+ and I have yet to run into a 720p video in any codec or bitrate that the little bastard could not run perfectly smooth. I have no RMVB videos but I can't imagine it will have huge issues but if you send me a link for such a video then I will be happy to test it out for you.
As for the topic of the thread:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty. It is a horrid and terrible product which should never have been allowed to be used as the reference chip for Honeycomb. For this reason I went with the 7+. If anyone thinks everyone with a 10.1 is cheerful with a Tegra 2 running then you have not watched the threads prior to the nation wide USA release of the 10.1. Even after the 10.1v was confirmed as using the Tegra 2 we still held out a glimmer of hope for the Exynos 4210 and a MicroSD slot. The 7+ has both of these and I even found it at 350$ with 3.5% sales tax at Microcenter.
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I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty.
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Does this issue only happen during video playback or any graphics in general? I thought Tegra 2 is supposed to be very good! :|
I do notice some lag even when using the homescreen in 10.1, din test 7+ enough to tell, after I have tested 10.1 and 8.9, the 7+ seems just too small! And I am worrying about the future support (ICS) for 7+ as it seems the odd tab with that resolution. As with Samsung products, the ones that gets updated are those that are popular, and looking at how thing goes, seems like 10.1/8.9 is (going to be) more popular.
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
koreanschoolkid said:
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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I feel the exact same way about my (ex) NT. But the locked bootloader killed it for me, and I'm back to the search for the optimal tablet for me. How would you say the 7+'s screen compares to the NT? I really loved that I could sit outside and see everything perfectly on that screen. Would you say it's worth the extra cash and not waiting for the 7.7 (assuming the 7.7 isn't actually $700, as speculated)?
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I feel the exact same way about my (ex) NT. But the locked bootloader killed it for me, and I'm back to the search for the optimal tablet for me. How would you say the 7+'s screen compares to the NT? I really loved that I could sit outside and see everything perfectly on that screen. Would you say it's worth the extra cash and not waiting for the 7.7 (assuming the 7.7 isn't actually $700, as speculated)?
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I just returned my NT and picked up the 7+. No regrets at all! I was betting on the 7.7 not being out for a while and being too expensive. so I went ahead and took the plunge. If the 7.7 comes out soon and is reasonably priced, I'll throw the 7+ on eBay, and eat the difference.
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I just returned my NT and picked up the 7+. No regrets at all! I was betting on the 7.7 not being out for a while and being too expensive. so I went ahead and took the plunge. If the 7.7 comes out soon and is reasonably priced, I'll throw the 7+ on eBay, and eat the difference.
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Not to be annoying and reiterate my question, but how does the screen compare? More specifically, how does it look outdoors? I really want to buy a replacement tablet, but great visibility in all lighting conditions is a huge factor. Reviews that I've read so far haven't really addressed this, with even some mildly negative comments about the 7+ screen.
It's a gloss screen so I doubt it would be perfect outdoors but it's not horrible in my limited experience. It's a bit darker than the screen in the 8.9 or 10.1 but it doesn't have viewing angle problems it's still a Samsung screen. Just naturally a tad darker at default.
I used to own the 1st Galaxy TAB P1000; it has no problem handling *.MKV files even with size more than 2 GB. Likewise for the 8.9. But for RMVB files it is a challenge. I tried the same files on a IPAD2. It faces the same problem . There are jerkiness . Try to get the files from www.33md.com
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I am a happy owner of an unrooted 7+ and I have yet to run into a 720p video in any codec or bitrate that the little bastard could not run perfectly smooth. I have no RMVB videos but I can't imagine it will have huge issues but if you send me a link for such a video then I will be happy to test it out for you.
As for the topic of the thread:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty. It is a horrid and terrible product which should never have been allowed to be used as the reference chip for Honeycomb. For this reason I went with the 7+. If anyone thinks everyone with a 10.1 is cheerful with a Tegra 2 running then you have not watched the threads prior to the nation wide USA release of the 10.1. Even after the 10.1v was confirmed as using the Tegra 2 we still held out a glimmer of hope for the Exynos 4210 and a MicroSD slot. The 7+ has both of these and I even found it at 350$ with 3.5% sales tax at Microcenter.
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Using MOBOPLAYER, I don't find that the 8.9 is having problem handling most videos. I still do not understand why all of you are saying it can't play videos well?
koreanschoolkid said:
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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RealPlayer formats? Seriously? I haven't had a RealPlayer video in years, so I have no idea.
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Palary said:
I used to own the 1st Galaxy TAB P1000; it has no problem handling *.MKV files even with size more than 2 GB. Likewise for the 8.9. But for RMVB files it is a challenge. I tried the same files on a IPAD2. It faces the same problem . There are jerkiness . Try to get the files from www.33md.com
Using MOBOPLAYER, I don't find that the 8.9 is having problem handling most videos. I still do not understand why all of you are saying it can't play videos well?
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Maybe your app is better, or maybe your videos are lower resolution. My 10.1 (with a handful of apps I tried) barfed on 1080p pretty hard.

Another S2 or Note?

Hi everyone,
I will be upgrading in late Feb. The options are: another s2 or Note.
Love my s2 (rooted with Illusion-xT v1.4.2 - XWKL1 2.3.6) , played a bit with Note and its size is not a problem for me.
I really have no time to go through the forum to find my answers.
I'd like to know:
- the battery life compared to s2
- does Note do everything that s2 does?
- call recording quality pls, does anyone use Total Recall?
- application compatibility with s2
- overall performance compared to s2
- your experience if you are owning both s2 and Note
- TV out - like in s2?
Thanks a lot guys!
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- the battery life compared to s2
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About roughly the same, the 250mAH is to feed the huge screen. I get the same video playback time of 9hrs on the S2 and on the Note. Gaming might suffer since it needs to compute for more pixels.
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- application compatibility with s2
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No issues, Andriod apps mostly scale to the screen and if they dont developers fix then quite fast.
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- does Note do everything that s2 does?
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The Galaxy Note is different device but is an upgrade for the Galaxy S2 in a way.
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- overall performance compared to s2
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Some say the note lags/UI stutters more than the Galaxy S2.. this is only true when you use the pinch to view the home screen or the app drawer which is a TW issue, anything other than that the Note does things FASTER than the S2 which is expected as it is a better device even under the hood.
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I find it difficult to now use a phone with anything less than 5.3" of a screen, this is one major drawback once you get attached to the Galaxy note.
Altho both phones are not with out its issues, faces similar issues on both ends though
You havent asked this but the GPS on the Gnote is amazing, you can even get a signal lock indoors all of this due to the GLONASS that it has, but its not that accurate as compared to dedicated GPS devices yet.
Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
Howdy.
Typed up a quick compairison between the two if you wanna take a moment to read it here.
One thing that I didn't mention in that post is TV out, and it's exactly the same as you would do so on a GSII; plug in an MHL adapter.
I personally haven't used GPS on the phone enough to count, but everyone else who has, has said it's the best they've used thus far. Much better than a GSII
If you go for it, you'll love it.
And hey! If you're not satisfied with it, go ahead and sell it and use those funds for either a new GSII or, when the time comes, put it towards it's successor.
But I doubt you'll want to once you get your hands on this baby
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Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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I've never used TV out on the S2 but I assume they will be exactly the same.
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Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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I've never used TV out on the S2 but I assume they will be exactly the same.
DarkShot666
Just took a quick peek at your post and I noticed you mention at 25% there is no issue viewing it under direct sunlight? I even have issues with the S2 or the note at 100% brightness under direct sunlight well ofcourse this varies how bright the sun is shining though.
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Just took a quick peek at your post and I noticed you mention at 25% there is no issue viewing it under direct sunlight? I even have issues with the S2 or the note at 100% brightness under direct sunlight well ofcourse this varies how bright the sun is shining though.
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I've personally never noticed any issues. It could very well be that any light that I was under wasn't 100% dead on, but my Note screen is always one of two brightness levels: 25% and 0%. I've never had a need to crank it any more.
Are you a big guy? (ie 6" + ?)
Then get the Note.
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What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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Used on both. More or less the same, yes.
For both devices, however, the system UI outputs at native resolution. So when you're web browsing or just going through menus and such, the S2 is at 800x480, the Note is 1280x800; noticeable difference.
I will say though, that the Note does seem to slow down quite a bit when hooked up to the TV for moving about the UI or playing games and such (mainly because, not only does it have to render 3x as many pixels already, but now it's doing it twice over(!!!), it's quite a burden, and it shows.
That said, it's still (mostly) functional, and when using it for video output (even full 1080p), it is flawless there.
P.S. I'm selling my international GS2 if you're interested. Send me a PM

The Tab S 10.5 is simply THE BEST Internet consumption device available...

When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
i'm getting one next month
mitchellvii said:
When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
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just wish Amazon weren't pushing their Fire tablets so hard, then we could have Amazon Instant Video as well
not sure if the flash/dolphin hack still works but for those of us in EU, silverlight only
this could the start of premium android tablets driving apps designed for that screen real estate
can only be a good thing for the sector in general
orangespoon said:
we could have Amazon Instant Video as well
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I use PlayOn (not free) for AIV and the rest (Hulu, HBOGO, TBS, Netflix, etc.). It uses the stock video player which works in multi view and pop-up-play. The stock player has lots of other features too like resizing, display settings, audio settings, and onscreen controls. So far, across the Notes, Pros, and S', the stock browser is the most responsive. I don't want to screw around with multiple browsers and Flash just to watch AIV. YMMV.
I like to watch mind numbing sitcoms while doing work on my tablet so view them in a pop-up-play window at the same time. Here's How I Met Your Mother on AIV...
Speaking of the stock browser. Any idea how we get it to sink with our Chrome Bookmarks? It used to do that but seems like it no longer does. How do I import my bookmarks?
I like Dolphin for one reason. Like the swipe bookmark sidebar that no one else has. Maxthon is also outstanding for easy bookmark navigation.
mitchellvii said:
When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
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Sony's tablet is pretty sweet too.
mitchellvii said:
Any idea how we get it to sink with our Chrome Bookmarks?
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It went away when Google forked WebKit. You can sink your (Samsung) devices via your Samsung account though.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/go...ine-that-will-soon-power-chrome-and-chromeos/
I wouldn't sink this tablet. It isn't water resistant... I kid I kid...
psst sync
*this was probably the result of google voice dictation so please don't take it as serious criticism. Just me being bored.
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Well its not super amoled and has lower resolution. If neither of those appeal to you then yeah, it's not bad.
The only think about the stock browser, that bugs me to no end is, the fact you can keep "desktop view" on, at all times. I have too constantly select it for every website. They made a huge error, in that regard.
HughesNet said:
I wouldn't sink this tablet. It isn't water resistant... I kid I kid...
psst sync
*this was probably the result of google voice dictation so please don't take it as serious criticism. Just me being bored.
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If only auto-correct checked grahamer.
If you want a fast good looking browser that syncs bookmarks nicely over the cloud try Maxthon HD for Tablets. Very nice. One feature I really like is the ability to instantly go back to the prior page without reloading it from the web. It also does prefetch well. Pages seem to load very quickly.
I just got mine today... am extremely impressed with it so far. Very lightweight and good quality, screen is stunning, very fast so far as well. Now ive only just about set it up and haven't really done much yet so this will get a update later. all ive done is update all the apps, took a look at Galaxy Gifts and Essentials, and setup a few differents apps on it.
true but...
mitchellvii said:
Well its not super amoled and has lower resolution. If neither of those appeal to you then yeah, it's not bad.
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
orangespoon said:
Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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Nothing a decent debloating or rom can't solve. This Tab S 10.5 is pure ocular joy. Every day I am amazed by the extreme resolution, deep blacks and vibrant colors. The only reason I can see for going with the Sony is if you plan to use the tablet in the tub ☺.
thanks, sounds interesting...
BarryH_GEG said:
I use PlayOn (not free) for AIV and the rest (Hulu, HBOGO, TBS, Netflix, etc.). It uses the stock video player which works in multi view and pop-up-play. The stock player has lots of other features too like resizing, display settings, audio settings, and onscreen controls. So far, across the Notes, Pros, and S', the stock browser is the most responsive. I don't want to screw around with multiple browsers and Flash just to watch AIV. YMMV.
I like to watch mind numbing sitcoms while doing work on my tablet so view them in a pop-up-play window at the same time. Here's How I Met Your Mother on AIV...]
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I have used Plex a lot as well but I prefer a simple solution and not having another server on all the time
looks like i may be ripping my BluRay collection and sticking them on an SD card
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
yes but...
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I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
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everyone has their own requirements
we have a 2.5 year old in the house and larger bezels would be useful
Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
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My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing
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If the N10.1-14 on 4.3 was faster than the TF-701 on 4.4 there's something amiss. AnandTech's Sunspider scores for the 8.4/10.5 were 1,082/1,015. That's pretty poor considering they and the N10.1-14 share h/w. Hopefully updates will improve things. As for Chrome, for whatever reason, it's a slug on all Samsung's high-end tablets and has been widely discussed on all their forums.
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Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
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Did you try Maxthon HD Tablet browser? It is amazingly fast and full featured. Regardless for me Chrome ran perfectly albeit I don't care for how it handles bookmarks so I switched to Maxthon. Nevertheless, lag was never a problem and Web pages always looked great and loaded fast.
When I hear these reports of terrible responsiveness in something as basic as Web browsing I have to wonder if you have a defective unit or some sort of software causing a resource conflict. Are you still using Touchwiz? Did you try another launcher such as Nova or GO? There is simply no way a tablet with this level of hardware should struggle at Web browsing at all.

16:9 Apps

Hi everybody. I'm very interested in buying this tablet, but I have read some reviews on Amazon where users say some 16:9 apps don't work because of this 4.£ screen.
I'm also a huge gamer, so can someone tell me if it's true and if you tried these 3 apps:
Springfield tapped out
- Blood brothers
- clash of clans.
I don't want to buy this tablet and then discover that I can't use my favourite apps/games
There's a simple solution, you simply use an app like rotation lite to force all apps to portrait mode.
It's what I do to force portrait apps to landscape on my S.
There's only one app (game) that I've had an issue with. Every other app I've used has adjusted to the correct resolution. The game is Wild Blood which I bought yesterday on sale for a buck or two and it reminds me of when I used to live in a Medieval Castle and slice fools up for fun and sport... ... ...decent game, just a "now and then" type thing. Anyway, it's really unplayable on the S2. Even the text and everything is centered down and to the right, and oddly when the gameplay starts the top half of the screen is entirely blank.
That is, however, the first and only time I've ever seen anything like that. Every other app/game I've used (many of which I also had on my Note 4) resizes perfectly. I am kind of curious about other Gameloft games though, because I deleted all of them when the permissions started getting out of control (I think it was Gangstar Vegas requesting "microphone" (???) that prompted that).
IMO the resolution isn't a problem or anything to worry about. If you have a decent phone and ever come across something where it's an issue then you're covered anyway. There are plenty of excellent games that are ideal for the tablet.
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Hi everybody. I'm very interested in buying this tablet, but I have read some reviews on Amazon where users say some 16:9 apps don't work because of this 4.£ screen.
I'm also a huge gamer, so can someone tell me if it's true and if you tried these 3 apps:
Springfield tapped out
- Blood brothers
- clash of clans.
I don't want to buy this tablet and then discover that I can't use my favourite apps/games
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There is a slight glitch with Tapped Out at the moment, that it over-zooms slightly on some of the fixed screens. On the main screen it starts a bit more zoomed than normal, but you can zoom out by pinching. But screens like the friend town screen (the one with three Springfields side by side) are zoomed so that the left and right hand ones are half cut-off (but still selectable).
It's cosmetic (the game is still fully playable, indeed aside from the above it runs very sweetly on my S2 T710) and EA have been made aware of it via their forums. As yet it hasn't been resolved, but it's not a showstopper by any means.

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