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Guys, I know this has been asked before - I just cant seem to find a conclusive answer. But here goes;
Will a SDHC 4GB SD card work on my Blueangel with Helmi's BA WM2k5 AKU3.5 (v.1.4 )? Has anyone got one working?
Hi J_Hutt
I have a 4gb SD card in my BA and it works just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
Untill reading your question and the wikipedia page above, I wasn't aware that my 4gb card was an SDHC card. My card does not show an SDHC logo, but from that wikipedia article it seems all cards >2gb are SDHC (1024byte blocks as opposed to 512).
We are of course at the mercy of wikipedia here though, its information is not always perfect.
Thanks for that, tho I gather the SD"HC" cards are different to the standard SD and not all devices are compatible (same form factor, just something about transfer rate / capacity / Fat32 file system etc)
Is anyone using a SDHC card in their WM% Blueangel?
As I can understand, there are some 4GB SD - non SDHC cards. Google for TS4GSD150. Or read this: http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/index.html#special-sd.html - section "SD and SDHC Card Size Overlap"
Yeah I am aware of that (non SDHC 4GB cards) Situation is that I bought a 4GB SD (not SDHC) card online and it was DOA (not just in my BA, but in readers etc)
Supplier has just emailed me offering to replace it, but do I want a SDHC at no extra cost blah blah....and I am thinking, why not if it will work.
So, again...has anyone used a SDHC in their BA?
You can get it, and if it doesn't work on BA you will have a good excuse to buy a new smartphone...
thingonaspring said:
Hi J_Hutt
I have a 4gb SD card in my BA and it works just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
Untill reading your question and the wikipedia page above, I wasn't aware that my 4gb card was an SDHC card. My card does not show an SDHC logo, but from that wikipedia article it seems all cards >2gb are SDHC (1024byte blocks as opposed to 512).
We are of course at the mercy of wikipedia here though, its information is not always perfect.
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Hi thingonaspring,
which card you have (brand, model..)? I would want to buy a 4gb's card for my Q9090. What I can buy?
Thx
Bb
4Gb SDHC card doesn't work
Not that long ago, I bought a 4Gb SDHC card and not knowing about SDHC (thinking it was another marketing term) and even though it was working fine in the cheap card reader on my desk, it did not do anything in my BA.
Went back to the supplier and switched it for a regular SD card and that one has been working fine since.
SDHC cards
SDHC cards are 3d generation SD card technology,
They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
Improved read and write speed,
Data stability,
Content encryption etc..
This technology requires hardware support which device will use, there is no software support. ( Except USB 2.0 cardreader used computers. )
Don't buy SDHC cards, there is already normal 4 gb SD card from SanDiskand kingston, and future 8 gb will coming.
Thx.
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They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
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That's a bit shortsighted IMHO, 32 gb isn't all that much these days.
i found this when i was searching. If anyone found a regular 8 GB SD card please post it here, i'll be tempted to buy it for sure because it seems like thats the best way to go. Overall if you do get the BA to accept this type of card it wont be compatible in other older devices thats currenly out now. So i think buying a SDHC Card isn't a good investment right now.
But please don't let me change anyone's mind, I'm just looking for a good investment right now.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=251468&pid=802703&st=0&#entry802703
SD Card info ... from the Windows Mobile Team ...
Everything you wanted to know about SD Cards, but were afraid to ask:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
The SD Standard used by the PPC phones at present does not support larger than 2Gb by definition. However, some 4Gb SD Cards will work in the BA, but this depends solely on the block-size which is being used by the cards.
Your mileage may vary ... try before you buy, and if you do find a 4Gb or an 8Gb one which works (and gets 8Gb of storage - not overlapped!!!) then post the brand/make/model here, as I'm sure many people would love to take their music collection along - a.la.ipod style ...
I have a knockoff SanDisk 4Gb from ebay that works in my BlueAngel (wm2003SE)
I also have the Transcend 4gb 150X card that worked fine. The card itself has problems, which is why I swapped to the knockoff.
beware that some usb readers are not able to deal with 4gb SD cards (notably the Lexar 12 in 1)
If your reader is IDing the card as 900 and change MBs your reader is struggling try another.
I have had no problems with the HTC unit and the cards. The transcend was messing up the same way in the device and every reader I threw at it...
Good luck
Gil
EQUANCY said:
SDHC cards are 3d generation SD card technology,
They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
Improved read and write speed,
Data stability,
Content encryption etc..
This technology requires hardware support which device will use, there is no software support. ( Except USB 2.0 cardreader used computers. )
Don't buy SDHC cards, there is already normal 4 gb SD card from SanDiskand kingston, and future 8 gb will coming.
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Incorrect, I just posted about this. SDHC format can handle much more storage than 32 GB, however there are physical theoretical limits to flash memory, just like there are those for CPU's. My post
Regards,
Jason
What is incorrect?
JKR said:
Incorrect, I just posted about this. SDHC format can handle much more storage than 32 GB, however there are physical theoretical limits to flash memory, just like there are those for CPU's. My post
Regards,
Jason
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There is no incorrect comment.
SDHC is an 3 generation NandFlash technology.
Now, The limit is 32 gb at this time,
Mean of limit is Secure, stable and usable.
May be some firms reached this limit (however you know more than 32 gb I don't now) but not this time.
There is only 8 gb cards on sale and 16 and 32's are coming in 2007-8.
Why i write 1-32 gb?
Because, there is no 512 mb SDHC but well 1 gb SDHC, you may find it.
What is SDHC, why not compitable with standart SD cards.
#1) Disk write and Read functions and commands are changed, New SDHC cards can write upto 6-10 mbps to disk and 50-80 mbps Read from disk. ( I sad disk them, they have no unique name ). This differents come from his hardware structure -->> I/O Busses, Voltage levels, frequenties and other reasons.
#2) They have a chip, he manage reading and writing operations, they have no processor, may you say DCU ( Data Controlling unit, that is mine ID ).
#3) They developed with NandFlash 2.0 technology, This is third of Nano Sized Memory blocks technology. ( You may find somethings about it ).
At the and.
SDHC cards are not compitable with SD 1.0 and 1.1 platforms, not like bluetooth 1.0 and 2.0, there is no old format support. ( No one has been sad yet )
if you want to buy SDHC, be sure the compatibility.
Blueangel's SD 1.1 slots have 1.2/12 mbps speeds ( Write/Read )
"This is not maximum speed of SD 1.1 they reached 2.1/25 mbps on USB 2.0 cardreaders."
The numbers may be some wrong, but be sure they are nearly values.
And lastone.
CPU's are not simple units. And they have so much parts.
You may find somethinks like of this comments in the Internet.
Just search it.
Come on ppl buy buy buy
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=8+gb+sd+card
Just leave one flash drive and the 8GB combo for me. When your done just let us hear the reviews
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There is no incorrect comment...Now, The limit is 32 gb at this time
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Well perhaps "incorrect" was a bit harsh. It all depends on where you get your info. here lists the ultimate capacity under the new memory addressing scheme as 2 TB. Where as here the maximum size is listed as 32 GB. Now I did mention that there are physical limitations of flash memory, and may not be able to reach the 2 TB limit, but under the SDHC standard, 2 TB is supported.
EQUANCY said:
SDHC cards are not compitable with SD 1.0 and 1.1 platforms, not like bluetooth 1.0 and 2.0, there is no old format support. ( No one has been sad yet )...
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This is what I had read also. I had done some little investigation into this a few months back, so I'm no stranger to searching the web, and had done so back then and once again. With that said, the second link above actually had some new info. It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible. Where as what I had read sometime back, was that there were legal restrictions imposed by the SD group to prevent this. Perhaps this has changed now. Well I suppose I may be defending a bad premise, because to be honest, when I had originally searched about SDHC, I didn't come across the 32 GB limit. And I suppose I could have been more specific about what I was referring to in your post.
Regards,
Jason
Good but...
This is mine last post about SDHC.
32 is Maximum reached SDHC capacity at this time, 2 TB is only theorical limit.
When someone make 2 TB SDHC then you can say the upto 2 TB capacity.
May be 2 TB SDHC's will come in future, then we can talk about 2 tb.
This is an example:
Intel goes to 45 nm technology, and that give a way to 8 or more core processor and upto 3 ghz per core speed without Netburst technoloy.
"Can you say there is already 8 core processor with 24 ghz total speed?"
You sad:
"It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible"
1-I sad about cards, not readers.
2-I sad SD 1.0 and 1.1 slots are can not use SDHC cards, I didn't sad SDHC Cardreaders can not read SD cards.
I write somethings about SDHC, because someone can buy them, this tech useless for our PDA's, i want help people. Because
I'v got so much help here,
May we can use SDHC's in nexttimes with external adapters or converters as SD.
May be...
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...You sad:
"It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible"
1-I sad about cards, not readers.
2-I sad SD 1.0 and 1.1 slots are can not use SDHC cards, I didn't sad SDHC Cardreaders can not read SD cards...
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I wasn't correcting you when I said this, I was correcting my statement that there was no compatibility. I had read at one point that there was no backwards compatibility (for legal reasons), but it looks like they changed that. but I will say that technically there aren't any 32 GB SDHC cards either. It is just a matter of what the question is asking, what is the largest capacity in development vs. what is the largest capacity possible.
Regards,
Jason
Hey guys i just bought the 8GB SDHC card and the flash drive reader/writer that comes with it.
It will take about two weeks in shipping for me so i'll keep you guys inform of the type and where i bought it from.
Thinking of buying this 16GB SDHC memory card.
http://www.meritline.com/kingston-16gb-sdhc20-class4-sd-card.html
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.a...m=206812522&Type=PE&Category=Comp&dcaid=15890
But I dont wanna throw away money..so..
is the TYTNII a SD (ver. 1.0, 1.1) device? (if so then it will not recognize SDHC cards (>4GB))?
Does anyone know if this works with TYTNII (pratically, not theoretically)?
Has anyone used this or the 12GB one?
Thanks
some info on it:
Compatibility with SDHC 16GB: 16GB SDHC are designed for devices that are compatible with the SDHC 2.0 specifications. The SDHC logo on the packaging is to ensure compatibility. Please check with your device manufacturer for their current/future supported SDHC devices.
SDHC works differently then standard SD cards, this new format is not backwards compatible with legacy SD format host devices.
Kingston Technology's Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) memory cards are fully compliant with the new SD Association specification version 2.00. They are a new performance class of SD memory cards designed to meet the storage demands of high-quality digital still and video cameras and other high-resolution image recording devices.
-Remember that standard host devices must call out support for SDHC in order to be compatible with SDHC Cards (>4GB). Look for the logo!
-SD (ver. 1.0, 1.1) devices will not recognize SDHC cards (>4GB).
Features/benefits:
Compliant: with the SD Card Association specification version 2.00
Secure: built-in write-protect switch prevents accidental data loss
Compatible: with SDHC host devices; not compatible with standard SD-enabled devices/readers
File Format: FAT 32
Simple: as easy as plug-and-play
Specifications:
Capacities: 16GB
Dimensions: 0.94" x 1.25" x 0.08" (24mm x 32mm x 2.1mm)
Speed Class Rating:
--Class 2: 2MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
--Class 4: 4MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
--Class 6: 6MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
Operating Temperature: -13°F to 185°F(-25°C to 85°C)
Storage Temperature: -40°F to 185°F(-40°C to 85°C)
Voltage: 3.3V
The problem is how to fit it in your Kaiser ?
Cause this is not a micro SDHC card
While I don't know about the SD version on the Kaiser, I can tell you it reads 8GB SDHC cards. So if your 1.0, 1.1 versions only recognize under 4GB then the Kaiser is obviously using a later version.
Not sure on what you are going to pay for that size card... you can get an 8GB for under $50 which might be a smarter move until the others come down in price.
dang thats the price of my tilt
btw our phone support up to 32gb
ChefChaudart said:
The problem is how to fit it in your Kaiser ?
Cause this is not a micro SDHC card
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LOL good point, i didn't even follow the link to see that. I thought that SDHC was only micro cards...but then again I don't own any other devices that use these so i never researched them.
So, to the OP the size should work...but make sure you get a micro!
the card u posted in ur link will NOT work becase it doesnt suppot SDHC...u just simply cant put it inside ur phone...
It does Fit into the phone, what you see in the link is the exterior part of it. The smaller card is in the inside (fits underneath the one shown).
bluemamba said:
It does Fit into the phone, what you see in the link is the exterior part of it. The smaller card is in the inside (fits underneath the one shown).
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Actually, the links provided are SD cards, not Micro SD. The picture is not a Micro SD to SD converter, it's just an SD card. Micro SD to SD converters do not show the size of the card on them
So in conclusion, no, the product(s) in the links you provided will not fit in the kaiser, and therefore will not work. However here in the UK, we can expect to see 16GB Micro SDHC on the 31st May. See here
Audio said:
Actually, the links provided are SD cards, not Micro SD. The picture is not a Micro SD to SD converter, it's just an SD card. Micro SD to SD converters do not show the size of the card on them
So in conclusion, no, the product(s) in the links you provided will not fit in the kaiser, and therefore will not work. However here in the UK, we can expect to see 16GB Micro SDHC on the 31st May. See here
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Sorry My bad then..
Anyway now that thats sorrted out, my question still stands
Memory limit
One of HTC tech support guys basically told me that if the microSDHC card says SDHC that the Kaiser (or the Tilt he was referring to seeing as I was talking to him about my phone) will support it...and I believe he mentioned up to at least 128gb memory capacity or something. One other poster in this thread mentioned 32gb...
Now for reality, at the time of my purchase of the Tilt Nov 2008, Sandisk was the first to make 8gb microSDHC (okay others announced it too), and the time from their announcement of 8gb being put on their website at $139.99 in Nov 2007 or so.....to the availability on amazon in roughly January or Feb 2008 at 139.99....to the current amazon price of roughly in the $50 range by March/April 2008.....to the realization that very few other memory manufacturers have released 8gb microSDHC cards.......makes one think that by the time any amazing company makes anything substantially bigger than 8gb, AND releases it to market at a price I'm willing to pay for.......By that time...I and probably many of us, will have bought a newer phone with proper drivers...that the limit of memory size of microSDHC for the kaiser will be a memory.
In others words, 8gb microSDHC is the largest you will find today (most likely), and the phone will handle much more than that in its product lifetime. Buy with confidence that your kaiser in April 2008 can handle any microSDHC product available in April 2008.
Hope this helped.
thanks nicely put
come on dude you put up a link for an sdhc memory card you need a MICRO SDHC MEMORY CARD. Also I thought all th Tytn II could use the high capicity cards...are you sure you don't have a TYtn-one.
kkkkevinkim said:
come on dude you put up a link for an sdhc memory card you need a MICRO SDHC MEMORY CARD. Also I thought all th Tytn II could use the high capicity cards...are you sure you don't have a TYtn-one.
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This is true, by this thread is 6 months old also . Have a look at the date!
I'm buying the 8 GB MicroSDHC tomorrow. My 2 GB is already completely full!!
The SanDisk 16GB microSDHC works just fine in the Tytn II -- I've been using one for about a week now. I don't notice any speed difference between it and my old class 4 8GB card.
3waygeek said:
The SanDisk 16GB microSDHC works just fine in the Tytn II -- I've been using one for about a week now. I don't notice any speed difference between it and my old class 4 8GB card.
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That sounds awesome!!! I haven't seen the 16gb ones yet. How much do they go for?
I live near a Microcenter
so the 8G Microcenter version went on sale for 34 Bucks..thats right! Now the SANDISK 8G is a little bit more expensive but they are the same class SDs. I have the Microcenter version running right now in my Tilt with only 2Gs left...I'll probably try and get the SANDISK 16G but I might even wait to see if Microcenter comes out with their own 16G which generally is cheaper than Sandisks.
MACkjam said:
That sounds awesome!!! I haven't seen the 16gb ones yet. How much do they go for?
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I've seen them in the range of US $75-100. I paid $98 for mine -- they were the only US supplier I could find that had them in stock.
I been reading up a lil bit on this since the extended capacity sounds incredible, especially for HD2 users who have no real built in space.
and Wikipedia says SDHC compatible devices can use sdxc with UHS104 speeds, but not with the newer sd 4.0 specification.
Will the HD2 be capable of SD 4.0 with a firmware update or is this solely a hardware incompatability?
Hardware in HD2 will not accept it.
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
le_da said:
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
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hello
new info updated ? someone have tested ?
malex1 said:
Hardware in HD2 will not accept it.
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Well, unless installing WP 7.5 changes the hardware, that's bollox.
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
The HD2 can only handle up to a 32GB SD card. whether that would be SDXC or SDHC I'm pretty sure that wouldn't matter.
andyfoster said:
Well, unless installing WP 7.5 changes the hardware, that's bollox.
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
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Good
Recognizes the HTC HD2 if micro sd 64 gb and I have a dual boot and I have not given me any problems
To be recognized only be formatted in FAT32
regards
I ordered a 64GB micro-SDXC card from amazon.co.uk a week ago for GBP45.39 (found on HotUkdeals). Arrived today (was listed as "usually despatched within 1 - 4 weeks"), h2testw confirms capacity, and works fine in my HD2 running WM6.5 (Energy ROM), which shows capacity as 60906MB.
I don't understand why so many jump in saying a 64gb card wouldn't work when they obviously haven't tried. i would assume that it work fine as long as its formatted fat32... Any android phone should accept 64gb cards as well. the only difference between sdhc & sdxc is the formatting Im pretty sure. sdxc is formatted exFat of something like that, but its easy enough to reformat anyway you'd like with a computer.
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I have the Sandisk 64GB microSDXC Class 6 and it just works as a 32GB Samsung Class 10. The Sandisk is just a little bit slower in Benchmarks but in my phone I can't feel any difference; besides of the double of space. ;-)
SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB works
I installed the Tytung ICS build on a SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB.
Works fine! Just needs to be farmatted in Fat32
andyfoster said:
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
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YES you absolutely can run a 64GB microSDXC in an HD2. At least I can verify that with WM6.5.5. I am using the SanDisk 64GB class 10 micro SDXC card in my HD2. The phone does read the full 64GB and can access it all. You do have to reformat it first as it is in exFAT which can't be read. It needs to be formatted in FAT32. The kicker with that if you try to format in your PC, MS has deemed that FAT32 is 32 GB max and if you use the inbuilt format in any version of Windows, it will only format it in exFAT or NTFS. I also tried using a program called SDFormatter but it would not allow me to format in FAT32 either. There is a way to do it from a DOS command but... I ended up using EaseUS Partion Master Home Edition, which is a free program. It worked a charm, and was very fast as well, Then I xxcopy'ed my SD card contents onto the new 64GB card and installed it in my phone. Both my WM 6.5.5 and my SD Android 2.2 are working perfectly, though the Android may be just a bit slower now and then. Both my 32GB and my 64GB are class 10s. I use XXcopy to keep a backup of my SD card on my computer, just in case. I update the backup every couple weeks or if I have updated anything significantly (which seems to be all the time with Android apps). I am running Core Cell Evo v4.1 and CoreDroid v.08. Here are the links to Partition Master http://www.partition-tool.com/download.htm and XXcopy http://www.xxcopy.com/xcpydnld.htm
Here is a screenshot from my HD2 when it was booted into Android.
So very cool, and now my HD2 in both WM 6.5 and Android modes thanks you
128 GB ? OK, will be my next try, then ! :laugh:
I just received my SanDisk SDSDQUA-064G-U46A 64 GB micro SD XC card and been using it for three days now.
To make sure it will work flawlessly, just do the following :
- Use the phone formatting tool (it will format the card in FAT32)
- When restoring your data to the card, don't overwrite the "Application Data" folder nor the "EncFiltLog.menc" file that will have been put on the card root after formatting.
- Check it's Ok by launching an SD android ROM. If you can browse the memory card's contents, you win. Else, just try again from the beginning ! :laugh:
Anyway, both the HD2 and Windows Mobile are fully SD XC compatible, at least up to 64 GB (really NEED to test for 128 GB now ! ), so don't trust people saying they're not !
maybe you can try to partition the SD in multiple partitions of 32GB each... so you can easily use a fat32 file system.
just one question..do is possible to use a 64gb ntfs? Because my SanDisk 32gb class 10 uhs1 is formatted using NTFS and works really well, so I think you could be able to use a 64GB NTFS formatted
I don't think so.
Windows mobile doesn't recognize NTFS (should have been an add-on, if only developpers hadn't stopped producing for this platform), and Android is Linux (Debian) based, so would rather use ext2 / ext3, and of course, FAT and FAT32, that fortunately stay the common links between all worlds...
Edit : Wait, is your card really NTFS formatted ? Windows should automatically choose FAT32 when formatting up to these sizes. I hadn't heard of Windows Mobile being able to read it. It can't read an USB disk in NTFS from Cotulla or Zeno Sloim USB host driver, for instance.
I even tried to format EXFAT32 on my HD2, with no luck. So FAT 32 only, but din't lost room in the process of formatting 64 GB in FAT32. My 32 GB card was almost full, and I earned a full 32 GB storage, so there's no visible cluster waste.
It's even much faster than the old 32 GB card (I bought one of the first that came available form Sandisk), despite the larger volume and allocation tables.
Highly recommended upgrade for people lacking room... It's totally stable, fast and reliable.
Now your idea to format in 2 chunks is good too. Anyway, Windows Mobile could manage them, so why not ? Maybe to be tried when 128 GB cards will become available !
Can i ask you something? I want to buy a new micro sd for my HD2 EU 512 but i read there is compatibility promlem for UHS. Can i use this card "Sandisk 32GB Android Ultra Micro Class 10 SDSDQUA-032G-U46A" with HD2?
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Can i ask you something? I want to buy a new micro sd for my HD2 EU 512 but i read there is compatibility promlem for UHS. Can i use this card "Sandisk 32GB Android Ultra Micro Class 10 SDSDQUA-032G-U46A" with HD2?
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Yes most likely should work since i have the same looking one.
Suhaib10 said:
Yes most likely should work since i have the same looking one.
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Thanks for reply.
I have the same looking one, but 64 GB class 10 and it works a breeze on the HD2, either under Windows Mobile 6.5.x and Android.
I was wondering if this phone supports micro SDXC cards? it would be nice to pop in a 64GB card. I keep running out of space on a 32GB micro SDHC.
Not sure about that but...
What I do when I run out of space is find out what flashable zips I'm currently using and keep those. Then I put the rest of them onto my computer in case I need them later. No need to keep every single zip I've ever used on my SD card.
Also GoogleMusic saves a lot of space that would normally be taken up by all my music.
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Not sure about that but...
What I do when I run out of space is find out what flashable zips I'm currently using and keep those. Then I put the rest of them onto my computer in case I need them later. No need to keep every single zip I've ever used on my SD card.
Also GoogleMusic saves a lot of space that would normally be taken up by all my music.
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yeah i already use google music and backup .zip's on my PC... however i do a bit of downloading with my phone + usually keep tv shows/movies (720P) on it as i am away from home frequently and use my phone as my source of entertainment. i'm tempted to just go and buy one of those 64GB cards and try it out but if it doesn't work i'd hope the store will allow me to get a refund on the card.
Yes, it is supported.
Tivo7 said:
Also GoogleMusic saves a lot of space that would normally be taken up by all my music.
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Is Google Music still invite only? I've been looking to try that...
najaboy said:
Yes, it is supported.
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No, its not supported on the bionic
eraursls1984 said:
No, its not supported on the bionic
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thanks. us chevy owners gotta stick together. lowered c/k eh?. . I have a lowered astro w/ 5000w sub system. w0rd....
voxigenboy said:
thanks. us chevy owners gotta stick together. lowered c/k eh?. . I have a lowered astro w/ 5000w sub system. w0rd....
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I have a S-10 (in my Sig) that's currently getting stock floor body dropped and a lowered Colorado as my daily driver.
wanderfowl said:
Is Google Music still invite only? I've been looking to try that...
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PM me your email address.
eraursls1984 said:
No, its not supported on the bionic
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The fact remains that the phone supports the SanDisk 64GB microSDXC card. Aside from the numerous anecdotes from users, PCMag has verified that the card is supported in the Bionic, GSII, Xperia Play, and OG Droid.
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The fact remains that the phone supports the SanDisk 64GB microSDXC card. Aside from the numerous anecdotes from users, PCMag has verified that the card is supported in the Bionic, GSII, Xperia Play, and OG Droid.
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Have a link to the specific card? If not, what speed class is it?
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Have a link to the specific card? If not, what speed class is it?
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http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card
even if not supported you could create partition and get away
FYI:
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SDHC_and_SDXC_compatibility_issues
"SDHC and SDXC compatibility issues
In the 3.0 specification, the electronic interface of SDHC and SDXC cards is the same. This means that SDHC hosts that have drivers that recognize the newly used capability bits, and have operating system software that understands the exFAT filesystem, are compatible with SDXC cards. The decision to label cards with a capacity greater than 32 GB as SDXC and to use a different filesystem is due solely to the limitations in creating larger filesystems in certain versions of Microsoft Windows.[citation needed] Other operating system kernels, such as Linux, make no distinction between SDHC and SDXC cards, as long as the card contains a compatible filesystem.
SDHC and SDXC cards and hosts have these compatibility issues:
Existing SDHC hosts will only support the SDXC cards at up to UHS104 speeds.[45]
SDXC hosts are backward compatible with SD and SDHC memory cards.[62]
The operating systems that support SDXC, as of 2011, are: Linux (with a proprietary driver for the exFAT filesystem),[63] Microsoft Windows 7, Windows Vista SP1+,[62] Windows XP SP2 or SP3 with KB955704,[64] Windows Server 2008 SP1+, Windows Server 2003 SP2 or SP3 with KB955704, Windows CE 6+, Mac OS X 10.6.5 or later.[65]"
Anyone tried this cheaper Kingmax card? The Sandisk card I'd guess has less room for problems, but it's a lot more money, and I only see them available from Sandisk directly without paying an additional $80 ($299 on Amazon).
Kingmax 64GB MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card with Adapters ---- $178
http://www.amazon.com/Kingmax-Micro...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1320439837&sr=1-2
This looks like the same card from the same seller, but unbranded ---- $166
http://www.amazon.com/Komputerbay-M...3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1320439837&sr=1-3
64 GB SanDisk Mobile UltraTM microSDXC ---- $219
http://sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card
voxigenboy said:
I was wondering if this phone supports micro SDXC cards? it would be nice to pop in a 64GB card. I keep running out of space on a 32GB micro SDHC.
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I bought a Sandisk Mobile Ultra 64 GB SDXC (class 10, UHS-1) card. Popped it in.. formated it.. and its reporting 63+GB or available storage.
So its working on my bionic
jetguat said:
I bought a Sandisk Mobile Ultra 64 GB SDXC (class 10, UHS-1) card. Popped it in.. formated it.. and its reporting 63+GB or available storage.
So its working on my bionic
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I have the same card in my bionic, it comes up as 59.46GB available storage
kkt12 said:
I have the same card in my bionic, it comes up as 59.46GB available storage
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I too am running the card. Can't seem to move apps to sd, but that could just be a Jelly Bean bug though
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Does this phone support 64 gb card? Anyone tested??
No and no.
Superhero340 said:
Does this phone support 64 gb card? Anyone tested??
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Support: no. Tried: no. Running exFat 32 GB Sandisk UHS-I just fine.
No and Yes
Hey,
Using a 64 gigabyte Sandisk Ultra micro-sd and working just fine.
Officially it does not support but unlike tyrael_pl is telling you everybody I know using the Xperia SP has 64 gigabyte memory cards working.
Just insert the card and the phone wil format it automaticly. Then transfer files to it with a cardreader
I can confirm, it works with my Samsung Class 10 64 GB card.
it will definitely work. some people at TMO are using 64gb sd cards on Nokia N900 then how XSP cannot support 64gb ?
yes it works on xperia sp too. 64gb sandisk ultra
Robin>Hood said:
Hey,
Using a 64 gigabyte Sandisk Ultra micro-sd and working just fine.
Officially it does not support but unlike tyrael_pl is telling you everybody I know using the Xperia SP has 64 gigabyte memory cards working.
Just insert the card and the phone wil format it automaticly. Then transfer files to it with a cardreader
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I just said that officially it is not supported, not that it wont work. I also added i never tried, 32 is plenty for me. If a given 64 GB card is or isnt working might me related to allocation unit size. It is reasonable to think that if formated with the smallest possible all. unit size the system might not be able to address the whole card's capacity. I would say that even card's brand and class might be influential. All in all those might be the reasons why 32GB< are not listed as supported. I, myself would like to hear why exactly the official support lists 32 GB as max - from someone who knows and not guesses like me.
Does the 64 GB cards work at full speed? My 32 GB UHS-I works at: read: ~42 MB/s, write: ~14 MB/s
Ah, my bad, I interpret your 'Tried: No' as in 'Tried and did not work'.
For you to understand why 64GB is compatible you need to understand the differences between different types of SD cards and their readers.
The difference between SDHC and SDXC is not a hardware difference but a file system difference. SDHC is formatted in Fat32 and SDXC in exFAT. So hardware compatibility always exits on any SDHC compatible device. In our case android 4.0+ I believe it is is compatible with the exFAT filesystem so that is why it is possible to read and write to the SDXC card. Whether or not a non exFAT compatible android device (or other) would be able to read a 64GB SDXC card formatted in fat32(there are tools who can do this) I do not know.
Also for as far as I know any 64GB SDXC card is supported by the Xperia SP.
EDIT: Not all Android devices support exFAT, but it is supported, I guess that is why Sony does not 'support' exFAT officially, this way they do not have to garantee the workings of SDXC.
Read 25 MB/s, Write 12 MB/s. Enough for me, do not know if it is the max.
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SDHC is formatted in Fat32 and SDXC in exFAT
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SDHC is formatted in Fat32 but by what? If you mean the native format you get it in - yes it is true. If you mean the phone default format file system - true again. If you mean the format it is possible to format in - i formated my card in exFat with no problem and phone runs flawlessly with it. No problems whatsoever, sd a1 bench even measured better read/write time then with internal storage (which i highly doubt and am skeptical about that, but that's just me).
So the true and compact answer i got somewhat right but the full answer as to why 32< GB card are not *offically* supported is:
Larger then 32 GB prefers exFat (due to Fat32 old and outdated addressing issue) to utilize it fully and mindlessly (user fool-proof, on fat32 you need to know that you need quite large sectors to address all of the on 32< cards), and exFat is not offically supported by SP? So... it will work as long as you know what you are doing... If you format a 64 GB card with some ridic small cluster size on fat32 you will only get what 28bit addressing will allow you to.
On the side note, i really suggest anyone to format their cards in exFat. I know it is by far not the best possible file format and is far from perfect but it has some upsides:
+ supports 4GB< single files
+ tests suggest it improves transfer rates quite a bit vs Fat32
+ has no issues with addressing the largest available capacities, no 32GB limit for support
+ does work on JB
Has still some issues:
- *officially* NOT supported by JB
- incompatible with many older win family systems, pre-XP (XP with no SP)
As well as many other details that are not as significant from user perspective, try wiki for more. ExFat seem the best available, somehow large scale compatible file format for mass storage devices (SD, pendrive).
Conclusion:
32< GB cards? No problem as long as exFat formated.
tyrael_pl said:
SDHC is formatted in Fat32 but by what? If you mean the native format you get it in - yes it is true. If you mean the phone default format file system - true again. If you mean the format it is possible to format in
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What do you expect? That what I am trying to say is that formatted in fat32 by turkey sandwiches or meatballs? Ofcourse out of the package, I guess we all know we can format storage carriers the way we want them to be formatted.
The only thing I told you is the reason so you might have an idea.
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and exFat is not offically supported by SP? So... it will work as long as you know what you are doing...
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That is what this whole topic is about dude :cyclops:
Are you just having a hard time understanding or what ?
Im gonna format myself a meatball sandwhich hehe.
Being cocky, somewhat rude and overly sarcastic doesnt solve anything and is not really welcomed here in most cases. Dont treat other's the way you wouldnt like to be treated.
Some things that are obvious for you or me are not as obvious for all readers thats why i personally like to fill the details i am able to. Next time form your thought in more polite manner, i don't spend my time here i be made fun of.
PS.
Sorry for the offtop.
Thanks on all information