[Q] 64 gb card? - Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does this phone support 64 gb card? Anyone tested??

No and no.
Superhero340 said:
Does this phone support 64 gb card? Anyone tested??
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Support: no. Tried: no. Running exFat 32 GB Sandisk UHS-I just fine.

No and Yes
Hey,
Using a 64 gigabyte Sandisk Ultra micro-sd and working just fine.
Officially it does not support but unlike tyrael_pl is telling you everybody I know using the Xperia SP has 64 gigabyte memory cards working.
Just insert the card and the phone wil format it automaticly. Then transfer files to it with a cardreader

I can confirm, it works with my Samsung Class 10 64 GB card.

it will definitely work. some people at TMO are using 64gb sd cards on Nokia N900 then how XSP cannot support 64gb ?

yes it works on xperia sp too. 64gb sandisk ultra

Robin>Hood said:
Hey,
Using a 64 gigabyte Sandisk Ultra micro-sd and working just fine.
Officially it does not support but unlike tyrael_pl is telling you everybody I know using the Xperia SP has 64 gigabyte memory cards working.
Just insert the card and the phone wil format it automaticly. Then transfer files to it with a cardreader
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I just said that officially it is not supported, not that it wont work. I also added i never tried, 32 is plenty for me. If a given 64 GB card is or isnt working might me related to allocation unit size. It is reasonable to think that if formated with the smallest possible all. unit size the system might not be able to address the whole card's capacity. I would say that even card's brand and class might be influential. All in all those might be the reasons why 32GB< are not listed as supported. I, myself would like to hear why exactly the official support lists 32 GB as max - from someone who knows and not guesses like me.
Does the 64 GB cards work at full speed? My 32 GB UHS-I works at: read: ~42 MB/s, write: ~14 MB/s

Ah, my bad, I interpret your 'Tried: No' as in 'Tried and did not work'.
For you to understand why 64GB is compatible you need to understand the differences between different types of SD cards and their readers.
The difference between SDHC and SDXC is not a hardware difference but a file system difference. SDHC is formatted in Fat32 and SDXC in exFAT. So hardware compatibility always exits on any SDHC compatible device. In our case android 4.0+ I believe it is is compatible with the exFAT filesystem so that is why it is possible to read and write to the SDXC card. Whether or not a non exFAT compatible android device (or other) would be able to read a 64GB SDXC card formatted in fat32(there are tools who can do this) I do not know.
Also for as far as I know any 64GB SDXC card is supported by the Xperia SP.
EDIT: Not all Android devices support exFAT, but it is supported, I guess that is why Sony does not 'support' exFAT officially, this way they do not have to garantee the workings of SDXC.
Read 25 MB/s, Write 12 MB/s. Enough for me, do not know if it is the max.

Robin>Hood said:
SDHC is formatted in Fat32 and SDXC in exFAT
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SDHC is formatted in Fat32 but by what? If you mean the native format you get it in - yes it is true. If you mean the phone default format file system - true again. If you mean the format it is possible to format in - i formated my card in exFat with no problem and phone runs flawlessly with it. No problems whatsoever, sd a1 bench even measured better read/write time then with internal storage (which i highly doubt and am skeptical about that, but that's just me).
So the true and compact answer i got somewhat right but the full answer as to why 32< GB card are not *offically* supported is:
Larger then 32 GB prefers exFat (due to Fat32 old and outdated addressing issue) to utilize it fully and mindlessly (user fool-proof, on fat32 you need to know that you need quite large sectors to address all of the on 32< cards), and exFat is not offically supported by SP? So... it will work as long as you know what you are doing... If you format a 64 GB card with some ridic small cluster size on fat32 you will only get what 28bit addressing will allow you to.
On the side note, i really suggest anyone to format their cards in exFat. I know it is by far not the best possible file format and is far from perfect but it has some upsides:
+ supports 4GB< single files
+ tests suggest it improves transfer rates quite a bit vs Fat32
+ has no issues with addressing the largest available capacities, no 32GB limit for support
+ does work on JB
Has still some issues:
- *officially* NOT supported by JB
- incompatible with many older win family systems, pre-XP (XP with no SP)
As well as many other details that are not as significant from user perspective, try wiki for more. ExFat seem the best available, somehow large scale compatible file format for mass storage devices (SD, pendrive).
Conclusion:
32< GB cards? No problem as long as exFat formated.

tyrael_pl said:
SDHC is formatted in Fat32 but by what? If you mean the native format you get it in - yes it is true. If you mean the phone default format file system - true again. If you mean the format it is possible to format in
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What do you expect? That what I am trying to say is that formatted in fat32 by turkey sandwiches or meatballs? Ofcourse out of the package, I guess we all know we can format storage carriers the way we want them to be formatted.
The only thing I told you is the reason so you might have an idea.
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and exFat is not offically supported by SP? So... it will work as long as you know what you are doing...
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That is what this whole topic is about dude :cyclops:
Are you just having a hard time understanding or what ?
Im gonna format myself a meatball sandwhich hehe.

Being cocky, somewhat rude and overly sarcastic doesnt solve anything and is not really welcomed here in most cases. Dont treat other's the way you wouldnt like to be treated.
Some things that are obvious for you or me are not as obvious for all readers thats why i personally like to fill the details i am able to. Next time form your thought in more polite manner, i don't spend my time here i be made fun of.
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Sorry for the offtop.

Thanks on all information

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SDHC 4Gb on Blueangel with AKU3.5

Guys, I know this has been asked before - I just cant seem to find a conclusive answer. But here goes;
Will a SDHC 4GB SD card work on my Blueangel with Helmi's BA WM2k5 AKU3.5 (v.1.4 )? Has anyone got one working?
Hi J_Hutt
I have a 4gb SD card in my BA and it works just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
Untill reading your question and the wikipedia page above, I wasn't aware that my 4gb card was an SDHC card. My card does not show an SDHC logo, but from that wikipedia article it seems all cards >2gb are SDHC (1024byte blocks as opposed to 512).
We are of course at the mercy of wikipedia here though, its information is not always perfect.
Thanks for that, tho I gather the SD"HC" cards are different to the standard SD and not all devices are compatible (same form factor, just something about transfer rate / capacity / Fat32 file system etc)
Is anyone using a SDHC card in their WM% Blueangel?
As I can understand, there are some 4GB SD - non SDHC cards. Google for TS4GSD150. Or read this: http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/index.html#special-sd.html - section "SD and SDHC Card Size Overlap"
Yeah I am aware of that (non SDHC 4GB cards) Situation is that I bought a 4GB SD (not SDHC) card online and it was DOA (not just in my BA, but in readers etc)
Supplier has just emailed me offering to replace it, but do I want a SDHC at no extra cost blah blah....and I am thinking, why not if it will work.
So, again...has anyone used a SDHC in their BA?
You can get it, and if it doesn't work on BA you will have a good excuse to buy a new smartphone...
thingonaspring said:
Hi J_Hutt
I have a 4gb SD card in my BA and it works just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
Untill reading your question and the wikipedia page above, I wasn't aware that my 4gb card was an SDHC card. My card does not show an SDHC logo, but from that wikipedia article it seems all cards >2gb are SDHC (1024byte blocks as opposed to 512).
We are of course at the mercy of wikipedia here though, its information is not always perfect.
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Hi thingonaspring,
which card you have (brand, model..)? I would want to buy a 4gb's card for my Q9090. What I can buy?
Thx
Bb
4Gb SDHC card doesn't work
Not that long ago, I bought a 4Gb SDHC card and not knowing about SDHC (thinking it was another marketing term) and even though it was working fine in the cheap card reader on my desk, it did not do anything in my BA.
Went back to the supplier and switched it for a regular SD card and that one has been working fine since.
SDHC cards
SDHC cards are 3d generation SD card technology,
They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
Improved read and write speed,
Data stability,
Content encryption etc..
This technology requires hardware support which device will use, there is no software support. ( Except USB 2.0 cardreader used computers. )
Don't buy SDHC cards, there is already normal 4 gb SD card from SanDiskand kingston, and future 8 gb will coming.
Thx.
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They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
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That's a bit shortsighted IMHO, 32 gb isn't all that much these days.
i found this when i was searching. If anyone found a regular 8 GB SD card please post it here, i'll be tempted to buy it for sure because it seems like thats the best way to go. Overall if you do get the BA to accept this type of card it wont be compatible in other older devices thats currenly out now. So i think buying a SDHC Card isn't a good investment right now.
But please don't let me change anyone's mind, I'm just looking for a good investment right now.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=251468&pid=802703&st=0&#entry802703
SD Card info ... from the Windows Mobile Team ...
Everything you wanted to know about SD Cards, but were afraid to ask:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
The SD Standard used by the PPC phones at present does not support larger than 2Gb by definition. However, some 4Gb SD Cards will work in the BA, but this depends solely on the block-size which is being used by the cards.
Your mileage may vary ... try before you buy, and if you do find a 4Gb or an 8Gb one which works (and gets 8Gb of storage - not overlapped!!!) then post the brand/make/model here, as I'm sure many people would love to take their music collection along - a.la.ipod style ...
I have a knockoff SanDisk 4Gb from ebay that works in my BlueAngel (wm2003SE)
I also have the Transcend 4gb 150X card that worked fine. The card itself has problems, which is why I swapped to the knockoff.
beware that some usb readers are not able to deal with 4gb SD cards (notably the Lexar 12 in 1)
If your reader is IDing the card as 900 and change MBs your reader is struggling try another.
I have had no problems with the HTC unit and the cards. The transcend was messing up the same way in the device and every reader I threw at it...
Good luck
Gil
EQUANCY said:
SDHC cards are 3d generation SD card technology,
They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
Improved read and write speed,
Data stability,
Content encryption etc..
This technology requires hardware support which device will use, there is no software support. ( Except USB 2.0 cardreader used computers. )
Don't buy SDHC cards, there is already normal 4 gb SD card from SanDiskand kingston, and future 8 gb will coming.
Thx.
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Incorrect, I just posted about this. SDHC format can handle much more storage than 32 GB, however there are physical theoretical limits to flash memory, just like there are those for CPU's. My post
Regards,
Jason
What is incorrect?
JKR said:
Incorrect, I just posted about this. SDHC format can handle much more storage than 32 GB, however there are physical theoretical limits to flash memory, just like there are those for CPU's. My post
Regards,
Jason
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There is no incorrect comment.
SDHC is an 3 generation NandFlash technology.
Now, The limit is 32 gb at this time,
Mean of limit is Secure, stable and usable.
May be some firms reached this limit (however you know more than 32 gb I don't now) but not this time.
There is only 8 gb cards on sale and 16 and 32's are coming in 2007-8.
Why i write 1-32 gb?
Because, there is no 512 mb SDHC but well 1 gb SDHC, you may find it.
What is SDHC, why not compitable with standart SD cards.
#1) Disk write and Read functions and commands are changed, New SDHC cards can write upto 6-10 mbps to disk and 50-80 mbps Read from disk. ( I sad disk them, they have no unique name ). This differents come from his hardware structure -->> I/O Busses, Voltage levels, frequenties and other reasons.
#2) They have a chip, he manage reading and writing operations, they have no processor, may you say DCU ( Data Controlling unit, that is mine ID ).
#3) They developed with NandFlash 2.0 technology, This is third of Nano Sized Memory blocks technology. ( You may find somethings about it ).
At the and.
SDHC cards are not compitable with SD 1.0 and 1.1 platforms, not like bluetooth 1.0 and 2.0, there is no old format support. ( No one has been sad yet )
if you want to buy SDHC, be sure the compatibility.
Blueangel's SD 1.1 slots have 1.2/12 mbps speeds ( Write/Read )
"This is not maximum speed of SD 1.1 they reached 2.1/25 mbps on USB 2.0 cardreaders."
The numbers may be some wrong, but be sure they are nearly values.
And lastone.
CPU's are not simple units. And they have so much parts.
You may find somethinks like of this comments in the Internet.
Just search it.
Come on ppl buy buy buy
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=8+gb+sd+card
Just leave one flash drive and the 8GB combo for me. When your done just let us hear the reviews
EQUANCY said:
There is no incorrect comment...Now, The limit is 32 gb at this time
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Well perhaps "incorrect" was a bit harsh. It all depends on where you get your info. here lists the ultimate capacity under the new memory addressing scheme as 2 TB. Where as here the maximum size is listed as 32 GB. Now I did mention that there are physical limitations of flash memory, and may not be able to reach the 2 TB limit, but under the SDHC standard, 2 TB is supported.
EQUANCY said:
SDHC cards are not compitable with SD 1.0 and 1.1 platforms, not like bluetooth 1.0 and 2.0, there is no old format support. ( No one has been sad yet )...
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This is what I had read also. I had done some little investigation into this a few months back, so I'm no stranger to searching the web, and had done so back then and once again. With that said, the second link above actually had some new info. It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible. Where as what I had read sometime back, was that there were legal restrictions imposed by the SD group to prevent this. Perhaps this has changed now. Well I suppose I may be defending a bad premise, because to be honest, when I had originally searched about SDHC, I didn't come across the 32 GB limit. And I suppose I could have been more specific about what I was referring to in your post.
Regards,
Jason
Good but...
This is mine last post about SDHC.
32 is Maximum reached SDHC capacity at this time, 2 TB is only theorical limit.
When someone make 2 TB SDHC then you can say the upto 2 TB capacity.
May be 2 TB SDHC's will come in future, then we can talk about 2 tb.
This is an example:
Intel goes to 45 nm technology, and that give a way to 8 or more core processor and upto 3 ghz per core speed without Netburst technoloy.
"Can you say there is already 8 core processor with 24 ghz total speed?"
You sad:
"It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible"
1-I sad about cards, not readers.
2-I sad SD 1.0 and 1.1 slots are can not use SDHC cards, I didn't sad SDHC Cardreaders can not read SD cards.
I write somethings about SDHC, because someone can buy them, this tech useless for our PDA's, i want help people. Because
I'v got so much help here,
May we can use SDHC's in nexttimes with external adapters or converters as SD.
May be...
EQUANCY said:
...You sad:
"It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible"
1-I sad about cards, not readers.
2-I sad SD 1.0 and 1.1 slots are can not use SDHC cards, I didn't sad SDHC Cardreaders can not read SD cards...
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I wasn't correcting you when I said this, I was correcting my statement that there was no compatibility. I had read at one point that there was no backwards compatibility (for legal reasons), but it looks like they changed that. but I will say that technically there aren't any 32 GB SDHC cards either. It is just a matter of what the question is asking, what is the largest capacity in development vs. what is the largest capacity possible.
Regards,
Jason
Hey guys i just bought the 8GB SDHC card and the flash drive reader/writer that comes with it.
It will take about two weeks in shipping for me so i'll keep you guys inform of the type and where i bought it from.

Hardware Compatability to microSDXC

I been reading up a lil bit on this since the extended capacity sounds incredible, especially for HD2 users who have no real built in space.
and Wikipedia says SDHC compatible devices can use sdxc with UHS104 speeds, but not with the newer sd 4.0 specification.
Will the HD2 be capable of SD 4.0 with a firmware update or is this solely a hardware incompatability?
Hardware in HD2 will not accept it.
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
le_da said:
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
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hello
new info updated ? someone have tested ?
malex1 said:
Hardware in HD2 will not accept it.
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Well, unless installing WP 7.5 changes the hardware, that's bollox.
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
The HD2 can only handle up to a 32GB SD card. whether that would be SDXC or SDHC I'm pretty sure that wouldn't matter.
andyfoster said:
Well, unless installing WP 7.5 changes the hardware, that's bollox.
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
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Good
Recognizes the HTC HD2 if micro sd 64 gb and I have a dual boot and I have not given me any problems
To be recognized only be formatted in FAT32
regards
I ordered a 64GB micro-SDXC card from amazon.co.uk a week ago for GBP45.39 (found on HotUkdeals). Arrived today (was listed as "usually despatched within 1 - 4 weeks"), h2testw confirms capacity, and works fine in my HD2 running WM6.5 (Energy ROM), which shows capacity as 60906MB.
I don't understand why so many jump in saying a 64gb card wouldn't work when they obviously haven't tried. i would assume that it work fine as long as its formatted fat32... Any android phone should accept 64gb cards as well. the only difference between sdhc & sdxc is the formatting Im pretty sure. sdxc is formatted exFat of something like that, but its easy enough to reformat anyway you'd like with a computer.
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I have the Sandisk 64GB microSDXC Class 6 and it just works as a 32GB Samsung Class 10. The Sandisk is just a little bit slower in Benchmarks but in my phone I can't feel any difference; besides of the double of space. ;-)
SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB works
I installed the Tytung ICS build on a SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB.
Works fine! Just needs to be farmatted in Fat32
andyfoster said:
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
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YES you absolutely can run a 64GB microSDXC in an HD2. At least I can verify that with WM6.5.5. I am using the SanDisk 64GB class 10 micro SDXC card in my HD2. The phone does read the full 64GB and can access it all. You do have to reformat it first as it is in exFAT which can't be read. It needs to be formatted in FAT32. The kicker with that if you try to format in your PC, MS has deemed that FAT32 is 32 GB max and if you use the inbuilt format in any version of Windows, it will only format it in exFAT or NTFS. I also tried using a program called SDFormatter but it would not allow me to format in FAT32 either. There is a way to do it from a DOS command but... I ended up using EaseUS Partion Master Home Edition, which is a free program. It worked a charm, and was very fast as well, Then I xxcopy'ed my SD card contents onto the new 64GB card and installed it in my phone. Both my WM 6.5.5 and my SD Android 2.2 are working perfectly, though the Android may be just a bit slower now and then. Both my 32GB and my 64GB are class 10s. I use XXcopy to keep a backup of my SD card on my computer, just in case. I update the backup every couple weeks or if I have updated anything significantly (which seems to be all the time with Android apps). I am running Core Cell Evo v4.1 and CoreDroid v.08. Here are the links to Partition Master http://www.partition-tool.com/download.htm and XXcopy http://www.xxcopy.com/xcpydnld.htm
Here is a screenshot from my HD2 when it was booted into Android.
So very cool, and now my HD2 in both WM 6.5 and Android modes thanks you
128 GB ? OK, will be my next try, then ! :laugh:
I just received my SanDisk SDSDQUA-064G-U46A 64 GB micro SD XC card and been using it for three days now.
To make sure it will work flawlessly, just do the following :
- Use the phone formatting tool (it will format the card in FAT32)
- When restoring your data to the card, don't overwrite the "Application Data" folder nor the "EncFiltLog.menc" file that will have been put on the card root after formatting.
- Check it's Ok by launching an SD android ROM. If you can browse the memory card's contents, you win. Else, just try again from the beginning ! :laugh:
Anyway, both the HD2 and Windows Mobile are fully SD XC compatible, at least up to 64 GB (really NEED to test for 128 GB now ! ), so don't trust people saying they're not !
maybe you can try to partition the SD in multiple partitions of 32GB each... so you can easily use a fat32 file system.
just one question..do is possible to use a 64gb ntfs? Because my SanDisk 32gb class 10 uhs1 is formatted using NTFS and works really well, so I think you could be able to use a 64GB NTFS formatted
I don't think so.
Windows mobile doesn't recognize NTFS (should have been an add-on, if only developpers hadn't stopped producing for this platform), and Android is Linux (Debian) based, so would rather use ext2 / ext3, and of course, FAT and FAT32, that fortunately stay the common links between all worlds...
Edit : Wait, is your card really NTFS formatted ? Windows should automatically choose FAT32 when formatting up to these sizes. I hadn't heard of Windows Mobile being able to read it. It can't read an USB disk in NTFS from Cotulla or Zeno Sloim USB host driver, for instance.
I even tried to format EXFAT32 on my HD2, with no luck. So FAT 32 only, but din't lost room in the process of formatting 64 GB in FAT32. My 32 GB card was almost full, and I earned a full 32 GB storage, so there's no visible cluster waste.
It's even much faster than the old 32 GB card (I bought one of the first that came available form Sandisk), despite the larger volume and allocation tables.
Highly recommended upgrade for people lacking room... It's totally stable, fast and reliable.
Now your idea to format in 2 chunks is good too. Anyway, Windows Mobile could manage them, so why not ? Maybe to be tried when 128 GB cards will become available !
Can i ask you something? I want to buy a new micro sd for my HD2 EU 512 but i read there is compatibility promlem for UHS. Can i use this card "Sandisk 32GB Android Ultra Micro Class 10 SDSDQUA-032G-U46A" with HD2?
DoubleT34 said:
Can i ask you something? I want to buy a new micro sd for my HD2 EU 512 but i read there is compatibility promlem for UHS. Can i use this card "Sandisk 32GB Android Ultra Micro Class 10 SDSDQUA-032G-U46A" with HD2?
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Yes most likely should work since i have the same looking one.
Suhaib10 said:
Yes most likely should work since i have the same looking one.
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Thanks for reply.
I have the same looking one, but 64 GB class 10 and it works a breeze on the HD2, either under Windows Mobile 6.5.x and Android.

can someone see if the droid 4 accept a 64gb MicroSDXC? Could someone try for me?

What it says on the tin.
I believe the specs say max 32, but I'd love if someone would try it and see if it can read it. I'm really curious, and I'd love to offload all music to my phone and have it all-in-one, as my ipod's DB corrupts every few weeks and it's a huge headache, and it can't intelligently export playlists and etc.
64GB SDXC card works
I purchased the SanDisk Mobile Ultra 64 GB microSD Extended Capacity (microSDXC) Class 6 - 30 MBps Read . The phone didn't recognize it when I put it in and asked me to format the card. Once I did that it works with no problem. I got 59.46GB usable space after that. The phone sees it as sdcard-ext. The SD tools app shows the speed at 6.1 MB/s write speed and 20.9 MB/s read speed.
Ditto, haven't done a speed test with it, but rocking 57 gigs of music on here with a couple gigs free.
Just picked one off of amazon, here goes nothing...
you guys are awesome, glad it can read. Buying one tomorrow.
Just got mine Saturday, works like a charm.
Tested and works for me as well. It did not recognize it as formatted when inserted initially, but once the phone formatted it, it is working fine.
So the question now is, why don't they spec it at 64 instead of 32 GB?
gaudenti said:
So the question now is, why don't they spec it at 64 instead of 32 GB?
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Anything over 32GB is SDXC.
Apparently from what I can garner, SDXC compatibility requires recognition of exFAT formatted cards. Android doesn't have exFAT support yet, and that probably is what's preventing them from branding the phone to support SDXC cards.
These are true 64gb chips, right? Not 32gb x2? I know there were some sd cards back in the day that read higher capacity but were basically two sd cards that interfaced as one.
tabry lwastele
64 GB does work but must be formatted natively first. "officially" they only support 32GB.
Sandisk class 6 64GB here, works perfect
gaudenti said:
So the question now is, why don't they spec it at 64 instead of 32 GB?
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mccompunerd said:
Anything over 32GB is SDXC.
Apparently from what I can garner, SDXC compatibility requires recognition of exFAT formatted cards. Android doesn't have exFAT support yet, and that probably is what's preventing them from branding the phone to support SDXC cards.
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From Wikipedia:
Compatibility with SDHC
SDXC host devices accept all previous families of SD memory cards.[26] Conversely, SDHC host devices will accept SDXC cards that follow Version 3.0, since the interface is identical,[3] but the following issues may affect usability:
SDXC cards are pre-formatted with Microsoft's proprietary and patented exFAT file system, which the host device might not support. Since Microsoft does not publish the specifications of exFAT and its use requires a non-free license, many alternative or older operating systems do not support exFAT for technical or legal reasons. The use of exFAT on some SDXC cards may render SDXC unsuitable as a universal exchange medium, as an SDXC card that uses exFAT would not be usable in all host devices. Since the FAT32 file system supports volumes up to the SDXC's maximum theoretical capacity of 2 TB as well, a user could reformat an SDXC card to use FAT32 for greater portability between computers (see below). FAT32-formatted SDXC cards can be used in a host device built for SDHC if the host device can handle 64 GB and larger volumes.
SDHC host devices will not test the new capability bits defined for SDXC 4.0 cards. It will therefore not be able to use the new features of SDXC, such as transfer speeds above UHS104 (104 MB/s).
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[Q] Micro SDHC compatibility...

dont have the phone yet, going to get the tmobile one. Was wondering if the following microSDHC would work with it. Or should i get non HC cards?
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...&qid=1373607420&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+sd+card
Of course it will work, but be careful with sandisk sd cards, they have tendency to lose connection with phone... Non HC cards are max. 2GB, so they are rather trash comparing to HC, or XC (64 GB) cards
Bairei said:
Of course they will work, but be careful with sandisk sd cards, they have tendency to lose connection with phone... Non HC cards are max. 2GB, so they are rather trash comparing to HC, or XC (64 GB) cards
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microSDXC technically maxes out at 2048 GB (2 TB). Also, I've never encountered this disconnection problem people keep talking about. Using a 64 GB SanDisk microSDXC in my phone. If yours does, I would recommend you take it back to the retailer to swap it out.
lilant510 said:
dont have the phone yet, going to get the tmobile one. Was wondering if the following microSDHC would work with it. Or should i get non HC cards?
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...&qid=1373607420&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+sd+card
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Get one of these instead: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=32GB
It's their new series. While it wont reach its potential maximum in the Xperia Z, it will in your next phone.
You should know that the phone can take 64 GB cards without any problems. I have one of these in my phone and you can't go wrong with that card either. But as I said I would go for the faster card. If nothing else, the faster card will be MUCH quicker to backup into something which does support UHS-1 speeds, like most laptops and ultrabooks do these days.
Rekoil said:
microSDXC technically maxes out at 2048 GB (2 TB). Also, I've never encountered this disconnection problem people keep talking about. Using a 64 GB SanDisk microSDXC in my phone. If yours does, I would recommend you take it back to the retailer to swap it out.
Get one of these instead: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=32GB
It's their new series. While it wont reach its potential maximum in the Xperia Z, it will in your next phone.
You should know that the phone can take 64 GB cards without any problems. I have one of these in my phone and you can't go wrong with that card either. But as I said I would go for the faster card. If nothing else, the faster card will be MUCH quicker to backup into something which does support UHS-1 speeds, like most laptops and ultrabooks do these days.
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But from what I read online is that the max it supports is a 32gb?
lilant510 said:
But from what I read online is that the max it supports is a 32gb?
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In 4.2.2 changelog sony writes that Z has officially support for 64GB SDXC cards... In 4.1 as i heard you can also use them without any bugs
lilant510 said:
But from what I read online is that the max it supports is a 32gb?
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Lies, all lies, the reason behind the lies was that most 64GB microSDXC cards come pre-formatted to exFAT, and if people have used them in something else, sticking them in Android would cause them to be formatted, making users lose data. So they said "we don't support 64GB cards", even when theoretically the reader won't have any problems with 2048GB cards assuming such cards existed. OK, I don't know for a fact that 2TB cards would work (hard when they don't exist ), but a 256GB card likely wont cause any trouble for example. There was a guy who stuck a microSD to SD adapter in his Note II and used a 256GB SD card with that. Most likely the same will work on an XZ as the readers are quite indifferent to capacity as long as the cards adhere to a common format (in this case the SDXC standard). Obviously a microSD to SD adapter isn't practical with the XZ, but when larger cards come out they should work flawlessly in the XZ, as long as they are SDXC cards.
In 4.2. Sony added support for exFAT, since then the formatting problem wont occur so they thought it was safe enough to announce support I guess.
It annoys me a little when device specifications indicate a maximum filesystem size, because I know that is only dependant on which SD standard is in use (SDHC only supports up to 32GB) and on the filesystems available to the operating system. Really, when looking at device specifications, what should be indicated is which SD standards are accepted by the phone, and not the largest size the manufacturer has tested.
Bairei said:
In 4.2.2 changelog sony writes that Z has officially support for 64GB SDXC cards... In 4.1 as i heard you can also use them without any bugs
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Ahhh I see. But I'll be getting the tmobile version so it'll be 4.1.2.
Also you happen to know if I can use the volume button to take pictures or videos?
lilant510 said:
Ahhh I see. But I'll be getting the tmobile version so it'll be 4.1.2.
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It will still work, you'll just have to format it to FAT32 prior to using it. I would suggest backing up and formatting to exFAT again once the 4.2.2 update drops for T-Mobile, considering the benefits of that filesystem such as filesizes >4.5GB and better Unicode support.
lilant510 said:
Also you happen to know if I can use the volume button to take pictures or videos?
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Not using the stock camera app unfortunately.
i use exactly same cards (sandisk 32GB uhs1) it works fine for me
tried transcend cards too and still working
Rekoil said:
microSDXC technically maxes out at 2048 GB (2 TB). Also, I've never encountered this disconnection problem people keep talking about. Using a 64 GB SanDisk microSDXC in my phone. If yours does, I would recommend you take it back to the retailer to swap it out.
Get one of these instead: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=32GB
It's their new series. While it wont reach its potential maximum in the Xperia Z, it will in your next phone.
You should know that the phone can take 64 GB cards without any problems. I have one of these in my phone and you can't go wrong with that card either. But as I said I would go for the faster card. If nothing else, the faster card will be MUCH quicker to backup into something which does support UHS-1 speeds, like most laptops and ultrabooks do these days.
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How much did you get it for? Can't find it on amazon. I have amazon gift card. Lol

[Q] Best 32GB MicroSD to buy for Xperia Z?

Guys...
I am thinking of buying a 32GB Class 10 Micro SD for my Xperia Z...Just wanna know which one is good to buy from below..Thanks in advance..:angel::angel:
SANDISK-MOBILE-ULTRA-CLASS-10-32GB-MICRO-SDHC-SD-32G-MEMORY-UHS-I-U1
TOSHIBA-MICROSDHC-CLASS-10-32GB-32G-32-G-GB-MICRO-SD-HC-UHS-I-U1
TRANSCEND-MICRO-SDHC-PREMIUM-32GB-CLASS-10-UHS-I-U1-32G-32-G-GB-MICRO-SD
KINGSTON-MICRO-SD-MICRO-SDHC-C10-32GB-32G-32-G-CLASS-10
This one: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB
...32GB is weak, go for 64GB instead.
Rekoil said:
This one: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB
...32GB is weak, go for 64GB instead.
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im limited in my budget...so looking for a 32 GB..
which brand is good Sandisk/ Transend/ Kingston/ Toshiba
blacjack00 said:
im limited in my budget...so looking for a 32 GB..
which brand is good Sandisk/ Transend/ Kingston/ Toshiba
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Only used SanDisk so can't really comment on the others. In my experience they are pretty good, budget-wise you might be better off with a Transcend or something though.
Rekoil said:
Only used SanDisk so can't really comment on the others. In my experience they are pretty good, budget-wise you might be better off with a Transcend or something though.
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price is almost the same....thnx bro..
waiting for others comments...
blacjack00 said:
I am thinking of buying a 32GB Class 10 Micro SD for my Xperia Z...
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I have a corrupted new 64 GB Sandisk Ultra Class 10.
My advice is make a full search here in General and Q&A threads about SD Cards before buying, because a great number of Xperia users are unhappy with their incompatible / corrupted SD Cards, especially the SanDisk ones.
Definitely Sandisk (the ultra)I use them in all xperias, no issue so far altought I don't use the 64Go it's too big for my use, 32Go is enough.
http://www.myshopping.com.au/ZM--12...IA_Type_HD_32GB_microSDHC_UHS_I_Card_Class_10
Based on my experience, here is the rank I suggest:
1) Sandisk 2) Toshiba 3) Kingston 4) Transcend
...and I also strongly suggest, only choose between Sandisk and Toshiba.
Am currently using a Sandisk 64GB on my Z for media like songs and videos, which I carried along from my Note (my very first android; then followed by Ion / V / TX) since day one, and a 32GB one for Titanium's and NAND backups. Both never encounter any problem... so far.
thanks guys for the helpful comments....i will buy a sandisk 32 Gb...
guys i have ordered the SANDISK-MOBILE-ULTRA-CLASS-10-32GB-MICRO-SDHC-SD-32G-MEMORY-UHS-I-U1
jus wanna know how to format it for use...
1) Do i put it to phone and format?
2) Do i format it in PC with card reader?
Which type to format (NTFS/ exfat)
Thanx in advance..:angel::angel:
blacjack00 said:
guys i have ordered the SANDISK-MOBILE-ULTRA-CLASS-10-32GB-MICRO-SDHC-SD-32G-MEMORY-UHS-I-U1
jus wanna know how to format it for use...
1) Do i put it to phone and format?
2) Do i format it in PC with card reader?
Which type to format (NTFS/ exfat)
Thanx in advance..:angel::angel:
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Put it straight in the phone and it will do it all for you.
When I bought my Sandisk 32GB and 64GB, both were formated with FAT32 out of the box.
Problem with FAT32 is that it won't support over 4GB a file.
If you have no intention to put over 4GB a file (like video) onto the card, you can just leave it as is and use it right away without doing anything.
If you're planning to put over 4GB a file onto the card, format it with exFAT with you computer by using a card adapter. XZ can read exFAT natively since 4.2.2.
You can also format your card with NTFS. Like exFAT, it also supports over 4GB a file. However, XZ can't read this file system thus you need to root and install a third party app like "Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+" in order to read.
My suggestion is, use exFAT, since it's more versatile, and is natively supported.

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