Petition for better stock rom - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

This phone is awesome but as many will agree the ICS update has many flaws. And I do not feel it is right to leave the HTC vivid in this condition. Here's why:
1) ICS has been officially updated since our 4.3 release, fixing many bugs.
2) Many games as well as other things lag a great deal and being this a high end device we should not be experiencing lag on games like gun bros, MC3 among many other games where rapid fire guns lag the device to were the game becomes unplayable.
3) All of the other bugs mentioned on other threads.
Yes I am happy we got ICS but it was a quick patched release, and the phone deserves a better more complete Rom release for those that don't root.
Please sign this petition stating any issues you are expreicing with ICS sandwhich for the HTC Vivid, so I can then send it over to A&TT and HTC tech department. Because if nothing is said the phone will be left in its current condition.
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1. One I attach exchange to the phone I can no longer install APK files, rendering humble bundles or app development ruined for me
2. Graphics are lousy for how much hardware is inside this handset, I suspect the drivers are to blame.
Now that the HTC One devices are out, I don't think that they will care, they have already moved on from the vivid.
Thankfully we have XDA

I haven't had any problems with lag. My phone is actually pretty fast thanks to WCX Rom. I haven't gotten into a lot of games, but my GTA III would slightly lag when I was on GB. Now that my phone is on ICS I can play the game with all the settings up without any lag. I might understand if you're not rooted and well, that would actually be more helpful than waiting for a petition to be approved. That is if it ever does..

I'd like to see the voice dialer replaced, the wifi bug gone, an lte toggle, crt and overscroll animations, and the sense 4 launcher. I doubt we'll ever see that from at&t or HTC but hopefully a developer on here can make that happen.
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I can't root or anything because all of the methods here require a computer which I don't have. I'm sorry but I'm really pissed because I'm on stock ics and a lot of my payed apps now lag as well as free ones. My wife's pantect burst puts my phone to shame with no lags ever. On stock my phone is crap.
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Have you tried a factory reset and reinstalling? Only thing I'm experiencing lag with is several third party keyboards and that's an ics issue. All apps run fine on my phone and its fast. Overall if we just had an lte toggle I'd be happy
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dfella30 said:
I can't root or anything because all of the methods here require a computer which I don't have. I'm sorry but I'm really pissed because I'm on stock ics and a lot of my payed apps now lag as well as free ones. My wife's pantect burst puts my phone to shame with no lags ever. On stock my phone is crap.
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You can root without a computer. Just need a microSD.
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Cor-master said:
Have you tried a factory reset and reinstalling? Only thing I'm experiencing lag with is several third party keyboards and that's an ics issue. All apps run fine on my phone and its fast. Overall if we just had an lte toggle I'd be happy
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You haven't run into the issue yet because I thought everything was fine to, until I reached a new level in a game or so. Everything was ok until I brought a machine gun in contract killer zombies.
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Really? My Vivid runs so well stock that I havent bothered even to root it
I agree with MC3 lagging. Prolly Gamelofts fault since it chokes on my buddies ATT Note and Skyrocket (same SoC) but all the rest run flawlessly like Dead Space, Riptide, Nba Jam, Shadowgun, Sonic Episode 4, GTA3 etc.
Otherwise, im really happy
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mike21pr said:
Really? My Vivid runs so well stock that I havent bothered even to root it
I agree with MC3 lagging. Prolly Gamelofts fault since it chokes on my buddies ATT Note and Skyrocket (same SoC) but all the rest run flawlessly like Dead Space, Riptide, Nba Jam, Shadowgun, Sonic Episode 4, GTA3 etc.
Otherwise, im really happy
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No its a 2D issue in the stock Rom, just install Restaurant Story. Unplayable, but on my wife's burst again smooth as butter. See all the thing I do on my suck
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Well I got an HTC flyer tablet that I play games on. I limit my phone to casual time killers
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Well I got an HTC flyer tablet that I play games on. I limit my phone to casual time killers
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Restaurant Story is as casual as it gets for me
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You can always ask some one who is trustworthy to do it for you like maybe a dev. Or a friend mate. Just a suggestion to root.
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Try to factory reset, and reinstall u'r apk / rooting and used script like supercharger. Root doesnt need a computer, u can used zip file and place it on sd. Attempt to bootloader and it will automatically rooting yours.
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Getting a new one in the mail and I'm not upgrading it until it gets fixed. Gingerbread is a more stable all around release. Just noticed as well HTC custom swype is not on ICS. Since ill have both versions ill post a review of both.
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All I can say is gingerbread is better in so many ways. Here's my list:
1. Battery is 50% better meaning I get twice as many hours on one charge.
2. Keybroad vibration doesn't glitch out. Meaning it vibrates on every keystroke.
3.All menus are the same color, green making the phone look better.
4.Apps load and respond a lot faster.
5. I have way more ram available almost a half a gig free
6. I have a lot more system settings available.
7. Sense is better, like the news app has a lot more options.
My list can go on, the only cons are the new features ICS has but I can use third party apps for some. ICS is slower and HTC released a poor update, I over the "i got ICS hype". It sucks, I have both systems side by side and tested them all day long. Sony was right gingerbread wins hands down. Now I'm happy with my phone.
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Yeah but the gingerbread launcher blows. You can't customize the dock, folder support is intact but not as refined and your forced to have 7 home screens whether or not you want them or not. Course you could always just use adw
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I love that my phone never reboots or force closes apps, however my infuse 4g was faster in terms of touch response and battery life. Sometimes I feel like ics on the.vivid is a little slow
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ICS was fast as hell when I first upgraded now it's gotten noticeably more laggy which is a bit odd. Maybe not laggy so much just losses smoothness at times.
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Gingerbread to ICS felt like windows xp to vista.
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HTC Vivid vs Inspire

Has anyone noticed from the HTC Inspire's UI is much smoother, quicker than the HTC Vivid? On the HTC Inspire I have also noticed the browser does not lag. The stock browser found on the HTC Vivid is quite laggy and quite choppy. What are ways to improve the performance on the Vivid?
The Inspire originally came with Sense 2.0, which is A LOT less resource intensive, likely the reason why it's smoother. The new Sense 3.0 that was later released for the Inspire (in its stock form, not custom optimized versions) for me is no smoother than the Vivid, I actually think the Vivid is does a better job. I have also found the Vivid to be smoother on the browser end as well.
ninethree said:
Has anyone noticed from the HTC Inspire's UI is much smoother, quicker than the HTC Vivid? On the HTC Inspire I have also noticed the browser does not lag. The stock browser found on the HTC Vivid is quite laggy and quite choppy. What are ways to improve the performance on the Vivid?
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I honestly find it to be the exact opposite for me. This is by far the best phone that I have used straight out of the box.
Not much you can do to improve performance until the boot-loader is unlocked. You can uninstall all of the AT&T crap that you are able to. I was able to remove it all except for the AT&T Navigator. That will make sure none of it is running in the background using up your memory.
I think the stuff about carrier software slowing down the phone is a myth. Those apps don't do crap, so if a phone lags, it is not because of them. Yes I hate them but uninstalling those apps doesn't speed up your phone, there are many other reasons to uninstall those apps. I honestly don't know why this phone was released with sense 3.0 and android 2.3.4 when all the new phones coming out have sense 3.5. At&t has enough android phones now but they still don't care about them as much as they should.
The only thing I miss from my Inspire is free mobile hotspot..... I would really like to get that working on LTE
This phone is totally rad...slaps all over my inspire and infuse. The stock experience is leaps ahead of any phone I have ever owned. Of course rooting, overclocking, and tweaks bring other phones up to speed. But as far as a stock experience goes viva the vivid. Take yours back and get a new one if it has lag.
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rawb123456 said:
This phone is totally rad...slaps all over my inspire and infuse. The stock experience is leaps ahead of any phone I have ever owned. Of course rooting, overclocking, and tweaks bring other phones up to speed. But as far as a stock experience goes viva the vivid. Take yours back and get a new one if it has lag.
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Plus 1000 to this. This is easily the best phone I've ever used out of the box. I have zero lag. Not a bit. I took the skyrocket back for it and have no regret. It's just better overall to me.
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nkd said:
...I honestly don't know why this phone was released with sense 3.0 and android 2.3.4 when all the new phones coming out have sense 3.5. At&t has enough android phones now but they still don't care about them as much as they should.
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Maybe because sense 3.5 is a Verizon exclusive.
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Perhaps it is the stock browser i'm using that causes the lag. what kind of browser do you guys use?
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Maybe because sense 3.5 is a Verizon exclusive.
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Sense 3.5 isn't a Verizon exclusive, tmo has the amaze which also runs it and I believe the sensation xl had it also but not sure if that phone will release here or not.
Overall the only changes I'd make to the vivid is unlocking the bl and I would have made it a little lighter.
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donharden2002 said:
Sense 3.5 isn't a Verizon exclusive, tmo has the amaze which also runs it and I believe the sensation xl had it also but not sure if that phone will release here or not.
Overall the only changes I'd make to the vivid is unlocking the bl and I would have made it a little lighter.
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The Amaze runs 3.0 just like the Vivid does. The only 3.5 phones in the US are on Verizon.
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Perhaps it is the stock browser i'm using that causes the lag. what kind of browser do you guys use?
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i had the same issues and installed the dolphin browser and its much better.
Has anyone noticed the screens in comparison, to me the vivid looked fake, idk maybe it was just me, i juat need some motivation to move up to the vivid
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Redlime said:
Has anyone noticed the screens in comparison, to me the vivid looked fake, idk maybe it was just me, i juat need some motivation to move up to the vivid
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I have both phones sitting side by side right now and the screen on the Vivid is a huge improvement from the Inspire.
Ok, so it was me, lol, i feel relieved cause i just ordered it online
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ICS for incs... Will we get it

Hey guys I've played with the beta releases that some great devs have uploaded but I am still not understanding if HTC will releasea version with sense or are all incs users up shot creek without a paddle? Seems kind of stupid if we don't get it my phone runs the betas with no slow downs at all.
Any help with this would be great.
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From what I've heard,HTC hasn't published any concrete press statements on weather they will upgrade Inc s to ics.The most likely outcome-they probably won't upgrade it,considering the late arrival of even sense 3.0.Luckily,devs are doing much appreciated work of keeping our device alive.
In regards to virtuous quatro beta1, I can't seem to connect properly to a wifi router,which uses wpa[psk] encription,it connects but nothing on the browser loads and wifi icon is grey.WPA2 router works just fine.Any ideas?Thanks
That is a huge let down as why they would kill this phone it is amazing if HTC kills us that is ridiculous
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ICS for incs
I don't think htc is going to update our device. But there is allready one good ICS custom rom!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424260
I used this rom now for a few days now, and it runs really smooth!! Only the camera doesn't work, but i'll think they get it fixed soon. There working hard on this rom! So if you wan't to get ICS on your device, you should give it a trie!
Ya I tried it and love it hence my frustration with HTC if the modding comunity can release such a.beautiful working Rom than why can't a billion dollar company. Especiallysince we dumped about 800 bucks into a.phone last April that is now being left in the dust like a old run down Buick lol
wietse1988 said:
I don't think htc is going to update our device. But there is allready one good ICS custom rom!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424260
I used this rom now for a few days now, and it runs really smooth!! Only the camera doesn't work, but i'll think they get it fixed soon. There working hard on this rom! So if you wan't to get ICS on your device, you should give it a trie!
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Chances are that we'll miss out on some native ICS love. They'll probably provide an update for devices from a certain date and anything prior to that will be left behind.
Given the lack of support for us IncS users, I wouldn't be surprised. Not to matter though. Give it time and we'll all be running CM9!
I'm curious, why can't the IncS get ICS? It should have everything it would need to run it, sans heavy lag from sense.
1.0 Ghz single core, 768MB DDR2, Adreno 205 sounds more like plenty needed to run it. It seems most devices that were killed from ICS have 512MB RAM or less. ICS is very memory dependent, so that extra 256 is helping tide it over from stuff compared to Desire OG and Desire Z.
Last month HTC announced the Evo Design 4G was going to get it. That thing only has a 200mhz gain on the Incredible S - 1.2Ghz single core, 768MB DDR2, Adreno 205.
IMO, 200 mhz of CPU difference is not going to be that noticeable...
Like I said, I don't believe it's a descriminate issue that means we'll be left out, but more an issue with the time the IncS was released.
Don't get me wrong, I desperately hope that we get some Official ICS love, but i'm not terribly confident about it.
Root your phone and you can flash one of the custom ICS Rome's that's already available for IncS.
I talked to a HTC rep down under who said this phone will not get ICS under any Oz carrier OTA
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Wait ICS release for Sensation XL then we'll have the most stable port IMO.
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I'm just waiting for CM9.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
in may it was announced everything will get a 18 month support term and the IS was released in febuary but in Canada wasnt released untill april
New virtuous Cuattro Beta 9 available!!
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RC1 available! Virtuous team really rocks. All my respect, they are simply awesome. I'm using BS player and LG cam app. Works smooth, few bugs, like the photo widget one... But I guess that now the effort will be focused on improving the camera, which is working.
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Installed and works nearly perfect
Virtuous Quattro RC2 works pretty well on my IncS. Loving ICS so far! I did notice that we have a 8 megapixel camera but with this Virtuous Quattro we are only using 5 megapixels....
I don't care if a stock ics update arrives ota or not. I'm using miui and it's way better than the sense stock rom. As for ics version, there would be lots of custom roms to choose from. So don't worry guys IncS is capable to get nearly all of the custom time out there....
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Sure, IMHO, HTC is by far too "sense-centric". It's their way to ensure they are at least as cool as the others in California. But for the average Android user "coolness" is not a deal breaker factor.
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yes.we do.
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New here

Just upgraded both me and my wife's phones from captivates to vivids. Had it about a week, so far i love the phones. I look forward to meeting everyone and learning about mods and stuff available for this phone. I had my captivate maybe a month if that before i rooted and put my first custom rom on. Not sure if I'm going to do anything like that to this phone yet, on stock ics and i like it the way it is for the most part.
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If you love stock and just want a cleaned detoxed Rom you should check out wildchild's Rom his roms are on his site so check his signature if you want a link to his site. The vivid is a great device.
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Yeah sense is all and all pretty nice, definitely an enhancement over vanilla gingerbread, not sure about ICS though as it looks beautiful already in its vanilla form. But i probably do like the sense launcher better than stock ics since you can remove unused home screens and don't have a gigantic search bar taking up a quarter of the screen. Just wish it had a more ICS ish app drawer with widgets inside and all. Also wish the gvoice integration with your call history worked. Otherwise i like it.
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welcome to the vivid...have fun and remember to read read read before you start to mod your phone..the vivid is a lil diff when it comes to flashing roms and stuff so please read read and read some more
Yeah Samsungs seem naturally more tailored for custom roms. I always read a ton when I haven't done something before, and since I'm on a new phone by a different manufacturer, I'll have to learn everything over again
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Cor-master said:
Yeah Samsungs seem naturally more tailored for custom roms. I always read a ton when I haven't done something before, and since I'm on a new phone by a different manufacturer, I'll have to learn everything over again
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its not that hard if you halfass know whats up....good luck and if you run into any problems just ask
Yeah I think of myself as a pro by now ;-) I've flashed my easily probably a 100 times, had everything from custom froyo roms to cm7. 1, to vanilla ics! But I'm happy with my vivid for now, in fact it's pretty close to 100% satisfaction. Never had that with my cappy, I was annoyed with the lag and gps within the first week.. Speaking of lag does this phone even have it? Not saying that's a bad thing
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Cor-master said:
Yeah Samsungs seem naturally more tailored for custom roms. I always read a ton when I haven't done something before, and since I'm on a new phone by a different manufacturer, I'll have to learn everything over again
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know what you mean came over from a infuse 4g seems like i just got comfortable with all the words and language for it and got over here and i am like what do what have to say it was like 3 weeks before i flashed a rom i was going through withdrawl
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Yeah I think of myself as a pro by now ;-) I've flashed my easily probably a 100 times, had everything from custom froyo roms to cm7. 1, to vanilla ics! But I'm happy with my vivid for now, in fact it's pretty close to 100% satisfaction. Never had that with my cappy, I was annoyed with the lag and gps within the first week.. Speaking of lag does this phone even have it? Not saying that's a bad thing
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man really i dont think i have ever had it lag on me and i tried to get it to and nothing....i always have pandora playing and do all kinds of other stuff and i cant get it to lag....the only thing i see that is ever kinda slow is fb app but that app is always buggy so its not the phone...but then again it still kicks its ass

Popular Apps

I am thinking about buying this phone, but I was wondering how well popular apps like draw something or temple run work on it? I am obsessed with them and need a phone that is good with these apps. I don't really want an iphone anymore and i have an upgrade coming up.
Yes they will I have both and they work perfectly
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It's a great phone even better with the perfect Rom / kernel ... Pm me when you get your vivid and ill help you out
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What phone will you be getting after vivid?

Which one(s) do you think are the best out there right now?
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Samsung S3 but I'm waiting for the S4
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That's what I was thinking. When does the S4 come out?
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Whatever is out when I'm due for my upgrade in November. I'll probably pick up the next Nexus device to play around with too
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I know most of you coming from the Vivid will hate me for saying this but i will go to the HTC M7 as my next phone. I got to love sense, if you dont, no need to be staying with HTC, but i need my fix of sense
Well... I'm really happy with my Vivid. GLAD I DIDN'T GO TO THE ONE X! And as much as I'd love to stay with HTC (still have a G1) their newest phones are a disappointment. The One series was a huge disappointment. So many hardware defects it really made me lose faith in them. I think my next is going to be a an S4 or I might buy a used SII, switch back and forth and ride it out until I'm eligible for an upgrade and see what's out then.
Gonna see what's available after mwc in February...if nothing interests me ill probably wait for the sgs4...but I've heard rumors that it might not have android but Samsung's own firmware instead...if that's the case...idk lol
Only time will tell...as of now nothing is really catching my eye :/ one x+ looks nice...bit you can't even get diff yet...AMD nexus 4 just doesn't have enough storage for me...I need at least 32gb so I can have music and a couple roms handy (about a 1-2gb worth of Roms)
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Going for the xperia z
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crookx said:
Going for the xperia z
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Both the Z and the ZL look promising.
Don't get me wrong, vivid has been a great phone, but I spent so much time messing with it that I'm ready to say goodbye.
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esloan said:
Both the Z and the ZL look promising.
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Only thing holding me back is the price...I read it was supposed to be really expensive...but I like its specs
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After the vivid I went to the HTC Droid Incredible 4g LTE because I wanted better service in my are and a sence 4 stock phone.... I still own a vivid bc I will never get rid of it. I mean development was slow when I had it but it has sparked up a.d I working on a fully working sence 4.1 just bc I love the phone.
Bringing Life To Droid Incredible 4g And The Almighty Vivid 4g
I love the looks of the S3, but I just can't do touch wiz. And I think my rooting days are over. Just no time anymore
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/22...vice-code-named-altius-goes-on-sale-in-april/
Can't wait!!
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Spectrejester said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/22...vice-code-named-altius-goes-on-sale-in-april/
Can't wait!!
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If those rumors and specs are true...then that's my next device ...if at least the tease date is true its my next device...I want the SGS4!
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I love the new sony devices. I had an xperia x10 before this...i will be looking towards something in the xperia line when the vivid dies
Nexus 4... Oh wait already have one!
This phone rocks, if you don't need the extra storage I'd recommend it to everyone... Of course there is the issue that it's really not for sale right now... Ugh. Supposedly February they are coming back in stock, we'll see I guess.
Anyway the device is epic. Pure android, no bloatware, screen is gorgeous, speed is ridiculously fast, put it this way you may not think you have lag on your vivid, until you play with this thing. It's literally iphone smooth. No lte? No problem! Make sure to copy your apn from your vivid and you'll get fast stable hspa+ that you'll never notice a difference from lte on stock. Camera is almost on the same level, maybe a tad bit weaker, but no shutter lag and the 4.2 camera app is very very nice. Build quality is solid, right on par with the vivid, feels sturdy and looks great.
The only issue is 4.2 needs patching. Battery life out of the box is actually worse than the vivid. This is due to the location service being borked on 4.2. Go into maps, Uncheck "report from this device" under location settings and battery life is much better than the vivid, however you don't get the most out of google now with it shut off. It won't show places of interest near you with the option shut off but until google patches it its the best only option.
So to summarize, once google patches 4.2 it'll be perfect. If you can deal with the wait and don't need the storage, I fully recommend it's awesome!
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The new sony phones look nice
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I guess I should mention this about the nexus 4. The screen size is a tad too large. The vivids screen size is perfect honestly, large enough to watch videos, small enough to use one handed. The nexus 4 is a tad too large for a good one handed experience. And the worst part? It's 4.7 inch screen will be considered small by the end of the year.
HTCs new droid dna design is basically going to be the reference design for HTCs next flagships and at 5 inches it's too big, I've played with one too so I can attest to that. The galaxy s4 is also rumored to be 5 inches, and the note 3 is rumored to be a whopping 6.3 inches!
When does it stop? Ergonomics are just going to hell here! I remember when htc released the Evo, my Samsung eternity fit in its entirety inside it's screen and I thought there's no way I'd want a phone that big. I was wrong there, 4.3 to 4.5 is actually the best sizes available hands down. But now screen sizes have just gone haywire! Before you know it people are going to be carrying 22 inch monitors with cell radios!
What's really frustrating is they still make smaller screen sizes but they all blow. Typically feature low resolution screens, dated hardware, and extremely outdated versions of android such as froyo or gingerbread with no plans whatsoever for android updates. Samsung releases about 50 of these Galaxy Rubbish phones a year!
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You can get LTE on the nexus 4...
Read your forums
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