[Q] Non-Safestrap Custom ROMs - ICS/GB? - Motorola Droid 4

Since we have SBF files now, and I apologize if this is the wrong area to post, but will we be able to get an official Clockworkmod Recovery so that we can install clean ROMs without needing to use Safestrap and running dual systems?
I am willing to test any developments on my D4 given that we can now flash the SBF should it brick.
Also on a somewhat side tangent, has anyone figured out a way to mod the system to allow apps2sd naturally like on the D2/D3 instead of the "media area vs app storage area"?
Thanks in advance everyone.

I am waiting for a response for this thread as well.the safestrap method has created issues I really don't want to deal with on a regular basis. I thought maybe once the sbf were out there we would have clockwork method out there fairly quick. I appreciate all the hard work hash & others put in to problem solving etc..J am so looking forward to a clockwork option..
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I have read that people are using the razr bootstrap without issue. I have not tested it personally.
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Someone posted in the eclipse ROM thread stating a flash with cwm of it. I asked what cwm they used but no reply yet
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dasmooveone said:
I am waiting for a response for this thread as well.the safestrap method has created issues I really don't want to deal with on a regular basis. I thought maybe once the sbf were out there we would have clockwork method out there fairly quick. I appreciate all the hard work hash & others put in to problem solving etc..J am so looking forward to a clockwork option..
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What issues? You could always use bootstrap, as others have said.
Personally, I really like using safestrap. Stock ROM when I need the phone to work, whatever rom I like otherwise (Though AOKP is getting pretty close to perfect now. Going to check up on CM9 soonish...)

podspi said:
What issues? You could always use bootstrap, as others have said.
Personally, I really like using safestrap. Stock ROM when I need the phone to work, whatever rom I like otherwise (Though AOKP is getting pretty close to perfect now. Going to check up on CM9 soonish...)
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What bootstrap is available? I haven't seen a thread with info on it yet.
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Bootstrap for RAZR apparently works, although there are some issues at least:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513200&highlight=bootstrap

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Kernel flashing APP

AppBrain: http://www.appbrain.com/app/neldar.sgs.kernel.flasher
I found this on accident while looking at ROM manager on the market place. I used it to flash and backup the kernel when I switched to EC10. It worked really great ESP. For those that are uncomfortable with using CWM.
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Nice discovery as CWM is just a pain to work with.
Clockwork recovery is the accepted tool for flashing kernels in the android world....unless it want available for some unknown reason
nitsuj17 said:
Clockwork recovery is the accepted tool for flashing kernels in the android world....unless it want available for some unknown reason
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Yes I know. But for instance since putting 2.2 on my phone I haven't gotten CWR to work. I am a noob when it comes to that stuff but I found this and it made it easier at least for that moment.
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Roblovesbox said:
Yes I know. But for instance since putting 2.2 on my phone I haven't gotten CWR to work. I am a noob when it comes to that stuff but I found this and it made it easier at least for that moment.
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fair enough....my advice though (and i think most would share it) if you cant get clockwork recovery working, then try and figure out why and fix it...flashing stuff is risky/serious stuff and shouldnt be done unless you understand what you are doing
I came from a cliq xt that used jr0ds recovery based on amon RA's recovery that I liked a heck of a lot better that clockwork. The interface was cleaner, it didn't have issues at all, everything in it always worked right all the time.
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agsded said:
I came from a cliq xt that used jr0ds recovery based on amon RA's recovery that I liked a heck of a lot better that clockwork. The interface was cleaner, it didn't have issues at all, everything in it always worked right all the time.
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what issues are you having with clockwork recovery? ive never had a problem
Stick with cwm. I dont even trust rom manager anymore for the facinate at least (Always been great on the droid)
Just odin the latest cwm and play it safe.
CWM is definitely the standard. Anyone who mods their Android phone, no matter what model it is, should learn how to use it.
Doesn't seem like cwm is a finished product, having to sometimes wipe more than once to get it to actually erase something, having to use a certain "color" or one built by a certain dev to make sure it works....
Having to scroll down through a sea of things to actually get to the yes to accomplish a task.....options on the menu that offer to perform a feature, but don't actually work, requiring a manual execution of a script at console, etc....
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what version of cwm are you using? Some (orange) do not play well with our phones due to different languages being used.
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what version of cwm are you using? Some (orange) do not play well with our phones due to different languages being used.
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orange only works with edify update scripts....older versions are compatible with both...but since orange recovery is kinda broken (kernels dont flash right) releases have stuck with amend
spotmark said:
CWM is definitely the standard. Anyone who mods their Android phone, no matter what model it is, should learn how to use it.
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It may be the standard but amon ra recovery was on nexus one... I never had cwm only for like a month
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Agreed. These are present in other recoveries though except the wiping more than once thing
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Doesn't seem like cwm is a finished product, having to sometimes wipe more than once to get it to actually erase something, having to use a certain "color" or one built by a certain dev to make sure it works....
Having to scroll down through a sea of things to actually get to the yes to accomplish a task.....options on the menu that offer to perform a feature, but don't actually work, requiring a manual execution of a script at console, etc....
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akaine2001 said:
It may be the standard but amon ra recovery was on nexus one... I never had cwm only for like a month
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well on this phone its the standard
I've had many Android phones, and CWM is the way to go.
It's sounding like an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of sentiment from most here, and I'd agree. I've never had problems with this cwr (using "red", which I believe is 2.5.1 4). But if another application exists that gets things done the same way, but is more noob-friendly, then I'd suggest getting someone with appropriate expertise to try it and give the rest of the community the ok to use it. Given that cwr is a tried-and-true method, the likelihood of that occurring is slim.
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It's sounding like an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of sentiment from most here, and I'd agree. I've never had problems with this cwr (using "red", which I believe is 2.5.1 4). But if another application exists that gets things done the same way, but is more noob-friendly, then I'd suggest getting someone with appropriate expertise to try it and give the rest of the community the ok to use it. Given that cwr is a tried-and-true method, the likelihood of that occurring is slim.
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recovery (be it amon_ra, cwr, or steam) is really essential to be flashing things...while i agree dismissing something out of hand isnt a great way to go about things...kernel flashers from within a booted system have been around for awhile and would only really be necessary if cwr wasnt possible (ie atrix 4g or something)

ics on my bionic ;)

finally ics on bionic and running LTE!!!!! woootttt wooottr
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Does the camera work? Dale.
Seriously what rom where! !!!
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Not sure if I can post links or not, so go to rootzwiki, then go to forums, then click on Droid bionic, then click on Droid bionic developer forum, then click on Th3oryrom and you'll find it.
voc627 said:
Does the camera work? Dale.
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That would be a negative
Don't see why you can post external links to development sites where deving is placed there used to be links to rootzwiki on my charge all the time so i don't see why not
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I think the reason this thread hasn't blown up is because everyone is still trying to keep root on .902
Nevertheless, I am still in that group. Post up some screenshots!
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There on rootzwiki
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Finally ready to root now that are stable ics is here now the question is where to start
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No camera, no calendar, but 4g data! Awesomeness. Can't wait till the above get worked out so I can say buhbye to gingerbread!
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Every one says 3g/4g is not working correctly, only 1x or 3g if your not in a 4g area.
Edit: I see there seems to be a work around, by turning on the LTE ram dump.
Is it a port of this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413349
ok so if i am understand the instructions correctly i run the sbps script on pathsaver run the script flash into stock recovery flash the 893 reboot wait boot into recovery again flash the 901 reboot and then i run teh root option one run script and then i am forever rooted on 901 now what do i do to get to 902 rooted and flash the ics rom as far as recovery system?? sorry for the noobness new to flashing moto devices..
bfitzpatrickd2d said:
ok so if i am understand the instructions correctly i run the sbps script on pathsaver run the script flash into stock recovery flash the 893 reboot wait boot into recovery again flash the 901 reboot and then i run teh root option one run script and then i am forever rooted on 901 now what do i do to get to 902 rooted and flash the ics rom as far as recovery system?? sorry for the noobness new to flashing moto devices..
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You need to go to 902 from 893 not 901. I think you can flash stock 893 in rsd, use voodoo from the market to save root, then take the OTA update and restore root with voodoo, but I'm not 100% sure voodoo works on the bionic (it does on my transformer prime)
bfitzpatrickd2d said:
Don't see why you can post external links to development sites where deving is placed there used to be links to rootzwiki on my charge all the time so i don't see why not
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Xda has lost its luster. When I started rooting phones, everyone was linking to xda because this was the main source. Now I'm seeing that rootzwiki is the main source. Not sure why that is, maybe someone else can give an explanation
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I am running it now on my Bionic. I am at 5.9.901 software it does work.
no camera, no calendar. but it is very fast and I like it.
smokedkill said:
Xda has lost its luster. When I started rooting phones, everyone was linking to xda because this was the main source. Now I'm seeing that rootzwiki is the main source. Not sure why that is, maybe someone else can give an explanation
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I think its because theres a lot of new users who don't read before they ask questions or start threads. I have seen rom threads where a question that was answered 10 times in the last 5 pages continues to be asked. The search function is horrible on here but if you can't read the last few pages of a thread, or 2-3 pages of thread titles before asking a question or starting a thread then you are just cluttering up the forum. I have seen a few devs leave simply because of all the people that wouldn't read a few pages, or even the OP before asking stupid questions which have already been answered. Also the moderation in some sub forums is horrible, that's another big reason I've seen a lot of devs leave.
Thank you for the explanation. Makes sense.
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YeloSub7 said:
I think the reason this thread hasn't blown up is because everyone is still trying to keep root on .902
Nevertheless, I am still in that group. Post up some screenshots!
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It isn't hard to keep root. ROTA893 is your friend

[ROM] Droid 4 Stock Pre-Rooted ROM

This was made using the same method used to make a Droid Razr ROM, except on the Droid 4, so it should theoretically work.
This ROM is pre-rooted
USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. IT IS UN-TESTED AS I DO NOT OWN A DROID 4 (yet).
DOWNLOAD
Size: 255.85 MB
MD5: a251142f5b850e4ad281fb98318ab1e4
Link: http://tinyw.in/CTDK
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Would like to try but untested means TROUBLE and from what I am reading it would seem way to easy find TROUBLE with tested roms so untested is suicide. Thanks but please report back when tested.
Hell Ill try it out and report back
dads2006gt said:
Would like to try but untested means TROUBLE and from what I am reading it would seem way to easy find TROUBLE with tested roms so untested is suicide. Thanks but please report back when tested.
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You could also try my Motoblur LT ROM posted a bit further down. I have tested it, and it works well for me, plus it is very highly debloated.
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doesn't work for me. it goes into a boot loop.
DevilDaHusky said:
doesn't work for me. it goes into a boot loop.
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Did you make sure to clear data and cache after enabling safe mode?
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tried that, same effect. weird thing is when I tried to restore my backup it didn't boot at all till I toggled safemode off.
I suspect a bad download. Try redownloading the file. Make sure after toggling Safe system ON, you clear EVERYTHING and then flash.
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Edit: Shameless plug; you can also try my Motoblur LT Rom which is hosted on a nice reliable server of mine.
i'll give it a shot
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welp, something is weird because when i install the ROM or restore my backup the phone won't boot. maybe my safestrap is borked?
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Will this rom work through clockworkmod recovery? It doesn't say it's exclusive to safestrap in the title and I know another user looking to edit his non-safe system via CWM recovery.
In theory, it would, but it is not a theory I recommend you test! We have no way to recover this phone if it bricks, so please, put on safestrap and use the stock prerooted for safestrap!! (Or, if you want it debloated, check out my Motoblur LT rom, also for safestrap)
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I wouldn't dare leave my precious safestrap, this is for someone else. Thank you for the response though!
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Just keep in mind that although safestrap is based on cwm, it is not exactly the same. If the install script has even one command that is different, it could be enough to brick since you are installing on a non-safe system with no fastboot files available. Please tell this "someone else" that we wish them luck, but using this rom with cwm directly is NOT tested, and likely VERY risky, and we do not want them to brick their phone, and won't risk giving any guaranteed directions, we are much more certain of it working correctly with safestrap and are not particularly comfortable saying it would work with cwm, all theory aside.
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Right, I'll express the uncertainty of the situation. I'll hit up Hashcode and see how difficult it would be to make one soley designed for CWM. Doesn't hurt to have the ROM, people will always be risky so why stop them?
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Lol, true enough! Good luck.
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He said the data was a little buggy and it lagged, but I don't know all the minor details of what he did (wipe data/cache/etc) but this rom DID work in CWMrecovery.
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Good to know, thanks for reporting back. I'm glad he didn't brick!

Need help.

Hello. I have a leaked update that i have applied. I need someone else to also updated so i can get a nandroid of your system. I screwed mine up and cant test my next update. The update is just a radio so you can keep root with voodoo or reroot using the old method. Hit me up at [email protected] we can talk and i can help. These files should never go public as fastboot might not work.
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leaked update? radios? lets get some more info dude!!
I think I'm afraid to help by actually installing the radio, but do you know if it improves stability of signal? I have noticed the D4 occasionally losing data connectivity, although it says it still has bars and will receive phone calls (I think) during that time. (The problem goes away within seconds, but it is still somewhat annoying)
Ignore this. We have found the issue and will have everything fixed lol once we have fastboot files all will be released if the fastboot is able to revert them back.
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nope, not ignoring it... you peaked my interest... can you at least tell us a little more about it?
Ill release more if someone running true stock meaning nothing has been removed creates me a nandroid of it using safestrap and sends me that file. I need a 215 system for a test. I promise to release information
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papi92 said:
Ill release more if someone running true stock meaning nothing has been removed creates me a nandroid of it using safestrap and sends me that file. I need a 215 system for a test. I promise to release information
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Have you tried to use this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545480
Thats a totally different thing
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Okay fixed it lol here's the news. The 219 is really just a new radio. I won't release it till a fast boot is found. The second update I wanted to apply was 220 problem is we can't figure out what to update from. 215 and 219 both fail the assert process. Meaning they can't install. 220 has a radio kernel bootloader and is labeled rev package. A rev package is a reverse package meaning it may have something good but its at 97% that it isn't anything special. So nothing to freak out about. If we had fastboot files all would be released after the precautions were taken.
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Newb here
Do you still need this?
As you can see from my post count, I'm new...new enough that I have not yet rooted my Droid 4, but I've been planning to. I might as well do it in a way that's helpful to developers if you still need that nandroid backup, but if you no longer need it, then I'm inclined to wait and see if fastboot files become available or until a non-beta ICS ROM comes out and lots and lots of forums members say it works on Droid 4 with no gripes.
GEF
Thank you but im good now lol just waiting now till 220 gets fixed by moto
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greekchampion04 said:
you peaked my interest
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piqued*
Yes, I'm a Grammar Nazi
My Droid 4 is rooted and safestrapped, but although a few apps are frozen, none are removed. I would be happy to link you to a full nandroid if this might help.
System version
2.13.215.xt894.Verizon.En.Us
Baseband:
Cdma_n_4.06.00r ltedc_u_07.1f.00
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Im good lol
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BOOTSTRAP

Hi all,
Just got a Droid3 for my work phone. I'm rooted and I've installed RomManager but after installing CWM I am not able to reboot into recovery. Further research indicates I need a bootstrap application. Does anyone have one they could post a link to? All the links I am finding are dead.
THanks
yes you need bootstrap if you want to use ROM manager
most just use safestrap and skip ROM manager
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sd_shadow said:
yes you need bootstrap if you want to use ROM manager
most just use safestrap and skip ROM manager
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Wow, safestrap is slick. Thanks for the tip on that.
The virtual rom slots are new to me. How is the performance when running a rom from one?
Thanks again!
ovar said:
Wow, safestrap is slick. Thanks for the tip on that.
The virtual rom slots are new to me. How is the performance when running a rom from one?
Thanks again!
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Performance is really great, no noticable performance reduction. Go for it :laugh: :good:
right, any loss in performance, is minimal
the multiple slots makes trying a new rom very easy
just note, cm10.1 and newer AOKP roms must be on slot 1
and hash should be releasing roms with the new kernel, any day now
Hashcode said:
Guys you may want to hold off for the latest kernel to roll into the builds (or I'll start putting out some test builds once its ready for D3 usage).
No camera function yet. But .. wow.
Everything else is better(tm).
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Performance is really great, no noticable performance reduction. Go for it :laugh: :good:
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I'm afraid I disagree. Safestrap mounts .img files as loop devices, which, as I understand and based on my own experience, is slower than mounting an actually disk partition. I was previously running minimoto on Safestrap and while I found it faster than anything else out there, I find it even faster when is flashed to the actual system partition. I have some bootstraps on my computer of you are still interested OP
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