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[Q] How Do You Like This Tab?

Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?

Galaxy Tab will be your choice for mobility and performance. After you root it and load with custom Rom , you will fall in love with it. My son loves it

I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!

pendevous said:
I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!
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Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...

I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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user error.

piercenkc said:
Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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source? I'm curious about this.

Galaxy tab is the best . but why u wont wait for tab10.1 and don't tell me is big ..
yeah is big . but OMG

i would say that the gtab is the best device i have ever bought. i have no regrets purchasing it for the full price. no other tablet (thats out now) can compete with this 7" beauty. its the best 7" tablet on the market right now,hands down! screw the nook color. i use this thing every single day. its my main device, i carry only this device, no cell phone. battery life is great for its size. but after 6 months of using it, i feel like i need to upgrade it. i know this seems like a total 180, but i want a dual core version with honeycomb (and some more RAM) but with the exact same size. everything else is great! the only reason im saying this is because i consider myself a heavy power user (the elite of the elite) and i feel like sometimes it just doesnt keep up. but if ur not like me then this will feel like its blazin fast for you. since i know that i wont get what i want, i still recommend this to people considering a nook color something else.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038171
Have a look at this thread, it seems the wifi tab can only play divx at 720p and not h264 720p like the 3g can. If video playback is a major reason for buying the tab then stick to the 3g version!
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piercenkc said:
Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?
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The Tab is by far the best phone/tablet hybrid out there right now. The important factors to me are:
* size (pocketable)
* screen resolution
* build quality
* GPU acceleration for HD video
I took it with me last week while travelling around Krakow, Poland. Picked up a Polish Internet SIM for £10 or so. It was like having a personal guide at all times. Google Places, Tripadvisor app, email, websites. All there at the touch of a button, and all pocketable. An iPad would be useless for such a trip.
I think it's best to think of the Galaxy Tab as a sort of phone/tablet hybrid rather than just a tablet. Honeycomb will not be targeted at this device as physically it's as much a phone as a tablet. This is a good thing as Honeycomb tablets are too big to carry around town and are lacking in telephony. The OS update after Honeycomb will bring that OS's functionality for smaller devices, but for now it can seem an oddity as it needs a phone OS (Froyo, Gingerbread etc) to be fully functional.
As it stand though, there's nothing that can match it .

I originally bought the Viewsonic G-Tab because it had the Tegra 2 processor and Xoom like hardware. Even though the screen was 10.1" it was terrible to see from almost all angles.
I decided to exchange it for the wifi only Tab and I have not been disappointed. It looks great and I actually think I prefer the smaller screen than I did the 10.1 tablet. I find the weight is more evenly distributed in your hands and that I can more easily type since my hands can span the screen. It doesn't sound like a big deal but unlike my phone I find myself using this thing for hours at a time and holding the larger heavier tablet wears on you after a while.
The battery life is decent even with heavy use. The device feels sturdy and well put together. I think the touch is responsive and the glare on the glass is not any worse then the other tablets out there.
I know I have heard how the wifi version is not as good as the 3G version. Honestly, I have a Vibrant that I can tether off of and I don't need the 3G and added monthly costs. I am almost always around an access point anyway. It runs fast and downloads better than my phone. I would like to have custom roms to put on it but I rooted it and added VT-Launcher and it looks like a different tablet.
Finally, I looked at Honeycomb and those tablets. I really don't see the big deal. The 2.2.1 FroYo does everything that you would want from a tablet with the right apps. I can do everything I need to and then some. Honeycomb isn't going to add any capabilities that I don't already have. My only complaints with the Tab is that it doesn't charge with the USB from a PC (at least very fast) and that the VPN isn't working for me with PPTP right now. I have a call into Samsung and I hope to get that resolved soon. Otherwise, this is a great buy.

TooSlo said:
source? I'm curious about this.
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
Now,
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Notice any difference from my P1000 box?
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
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There we go, I think I fixed that. Sorry for the double post.
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i'm still having doubts with my Tab (wifi version) since i'm unable to "use" its full potential. i didn't bother though getting the 3g version since i have a small phone at hand.
i'm a little unsatisfied but it's all good. i primarily use it for viewing and editing documents, surfing the net and some music and audio. that's pretty much it. if there's someone who'd be able to do a custom rom for the wifi version, then i'd be recommending this Tab.

I have both a Nook and a Sprint G-tab. If I wouldnt have gotten the deal I did on the G-Tab (company paid for it) I would return it. not that it is a bad unit, I am pretty pleased with it. My Nook has CM7 loaded on it and comparing the two comes out pretty much a wash. They are both great devices. I use the crap out of a tablet and both do everything that I want them to do.
Just my $.02 on the subject.

[Q] The Nook Color still worth it?

It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?

It depends on what you are wanting to do with it.
I was running autonooter 1.1 and liked the stock B&N app.
I was waiting for autonooter 1.2 to get all the kinks worked out so I could keep my magazines that I have subscriptions for.
That all changed when B&N updated their App in the android market to include Books and Magazines/ Newspapers.
I installed CM7 nightly 72 over the weekend w/ the overclock and I don't see a reason to go back to rooted stock 1.2. Took me about 30 minutes to download the files and install the ROM. Been running perfectly.
In my mind the only reason to keep the stock software on the Nook is if you need to have access to the children's books. Otherwise, put CM7 on there.

I Am Marino said:
It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
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The only issue I'm running into on CM7 beta 3.1 is the occasional system freeze requiring a reboot. No doubt that'll be sorted out soon. It's completely worth it if you put the right ROM on there.

1.2 is actually easier, i have market working, netflix, and oc to 1.2g all of my apps that I use work...having flash was the key for me and now I have it
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IMO I have been running the CM7 stable off a uSD card and couldn't be happier.
Took me 20 minutes maybe to get the files downloaded and installed and I very happy I did.
Wish I had wait a day later because B&N updated the android app. If I had know that, I would have installed directly to the nook..... No card...
But, that said.... It's the best 250 bucks I have spent....
I have everything on it I need for a tablet and it runs very stable....
So... I read my books.... I watch my Netflix..... I read my e-mail.... I surf the net.... I play my games....
Lego

So it's still simple enough to root?
And is it better to run it off SD or try to make the eMMC work since B&N messed with it?

At this point, you might as well at least wait until the 24th and see what it is B&N are releasing. Personally, I think it'll be a Nook Classic refresh, but it'd suck to buy a NC and have it obsolete in a week.

Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
It is very easy to root and I believe you will get the best overall performance installing to emmc.
Best 250 I've ever spent and it has totally replaced my laptop now that Netflix is working. Running Cm7.

I Am Marino said:
It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
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If anything, it's a better deal now. The latest CM7 update (finally) fixed the battery / sleep issues. Plus, B&N updated their reader app for Android. I haven't tried it, but I've heard that it's now compatible with magazines.
This pretty much eliminates the need to root the stock version. I'm even running everything off of an SD card and the performance is fantastic.

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Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
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I concur.
I haven't been able to put it down.

I would say it's definitely worth it. I use this more than my laptop or phone (both of which I use to use extensively). I'm hard pressed to come up with a device that I'd rather have in the near future. Most rooting and install procedures are fairly easy and only require a small amount of reading to understand.
And don't be afraid of all the "problems" popping up. Most of those are beta builds (which you don't have to use) or people not reading instructions properly.

absolutely worth it. I bought the iconia tab and used it for two weeks and returned it because I couldn't deal with all the force closes related to HC. So I picked up the nook couple days ago and love it. It came without the newest update. I rooted it and installed cm7 to emmc. I have harbor problems with it. Ad hoc tether works with no modifications flash works perfect market is there.
Don't bother with the autonooter to install on the SD card since the be nook app has everything except read to me.
All in all my rooted nook color performs far better than the iconia tab I bought. Well worth the $250!
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Are you still able to mount CM7 to the eMMC based off that new thing with only 1GB is able to be used?

If everyone who doesn't know the difference between rooting, flashing, ROMs, SD, eMMC and all the rest would please read this blog post, http://quinxy.com/guides/how-to-pick-your-nook-color-operating-system-and-install-options/ then this discussion may turn halfway coherent. Some of the version numbers may be out of date, but it will get you somewhat grounded in what's what.
As someone partly said, most of the problems you see come about because
1) people don't read directions
2) they just get hooked on tinkering with the thing and eventually something goes wrong.
A lot of the "problems" aren't even problems so much as the geek equivalent of a bunch of guys standing around a muscle car talking about whether to put on spoilers or stuff a subwoofer in the trunk.
I was initially planning to set up some kind of dual-boot on eMMC, but saw a really easy method for getting an SD install running, as well as a good card recommendation, and decided to take CM7 for a test-drive first. It runs so smooth from SD, I just dropped in an OC kernel and let it be. A lot of people are jumping straight to the beta, but I'm getting much better performance from the latest stable build, CM7.0.3, and I can deal with 5-6 hours use and two days on stand-by until they work out the other kinks in the beta. Everything I used for my build is at the link in my sig.

IFLATLINEI said:
Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
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So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.

HarryCz said:
So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
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But coming back from fairyland, the NC is a good value regardless of what comes out next week, which will probably be large-format e-ink and is almost certainly timed to keep the wind in the NC's sails, not leave it adrift.

Taosaur said:
But coming back from fairyland, the NC is a good value regardless of what comes out next week, which will probably be large-format e-ink and is almost certainly timed to keep the wind in the NC's sails, not leave it adrift.
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I would be very surprised if it is some kind of upgrade to the Nook Color. B&N has to stay competitive with the $114 ad supported Kindle and I am guessing that this will be an e-ink reader in the $100-125 range or you could be right, it could be a large format reader. It seems unlikely that B&N would upgrade the Nook Color and then release a new one a couple of weeks later.
I have been lusting after the Asus eee pad transformer but that is mostly due to how much I love the Nook Color. I would never have considered spending more than $300 on a device like this but like an earlier poster, I use it more than my laptop or my phone.

richdaley said:
I have been lusting after the Asus eee pad transformer but that is mostly due to how much I love the Nook Color. I would never have considered spending more than $300 on a device like this but like an earlier poster, I use it more than my laptop or my phone.
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Agreed.
Let me echo the thoughts of another poster: once the B&N Android App supported magazines, I saw no reason not to go with a CM7 install. I'm currently running Phiremod 1.2, and it's fantastic. Even though it's running the older kernel that doesn't put the machine into "deep sleep" I'm finding that battery life is great. It should easily last you all day. Just re-charge every night (which I do anyway) and everything is good.
I'm also loving the idea of the Asus eepad. I can't wait to go full Android and get windows (mostly) out of my private life for good. (Of course, as a Windows System Administrator it'll be a long time before I get Windows out of my professional life, LOL!)
I think we're still a couple of years off from Android becoming a viable OS alternative to Windows, but it won't be long, IMHO.

I have a rooted 1.2 with MN and I love this little baby!!! I overclocked stock rom to 1.1 mhz and it flies. I have had some visibility issues with the market but have been able to find most apps I want (had to sideload a few).
Now with the updated Nook app I might put CM7 or Phiremod into it but my stock OC setup works so nicely that I might hold off a little bit.
The 24th is near so I would wait and see but I dont think the announcement would be anything that makes the NC obsolete. My wishes for a NC 2?:
1. I think 7.5" or 8" would be an even better screen size, nothing bigger than that.
2. Native speed of at least 1mhz
3. Re design of the newspaper layout : keep the same format as today but add a "newsstand format" just like magazines, where I can see the ads and original formatting.
4. Bump memory to 1 gb
5. Gingerbread
Things I know I will never get:
1. Price drop to $225 or $200
2. on board GPS
3. Native full market access (as a tradeoff I'll let them block reader apps except Nook app)
3. Mini HDMI

HarryCz said:
So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
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Awww Cmon now gimmie a break. Im not important. If hes smart and theres no reason to think hes not then he will no doubt take into account everyones opinion here. You have 5 posts and your calling me out? Funny.
With that being said from what ive been reading the experts are expecting something to replace the E ink reader not the Nook Color. If they do release a Nook Color replacement well then is it really that big a loss? Does that make the Original that much worse? Not everyone is hung up on specs and even still the Nook Color has more room to grow.

[Q] Laptop for a Student

Hey Guys,
So this is going to be a sort of running thread through the summer, or if it dies, I may revive it as the decision gets closer. Basically here is the deal. I am a student, finishing my junior year of high school, and I am looking for a computer. I want a laptop that is reasonably portable, but also powerful. I play some games, not super intensive, but I would like to make sure the computer can play source engine games well (TF2, CS:S HL2), and also I was an avid player of the original Guild Wars, and I would like my laptop to be able to run Guild Wars 2. Also, going back to the portability, I'm thinking 13-14 inches, and a decent battery life (four hours plus). I would also like a durable laptop, because I would like to try to make it survive for 4 years or so. Budget isn't too much of an issue, but I would like the best bang for my buck. I was looking at the HP Envy 14 when the Sandy Bridge refresh hits this summer. Is there anything else out now that I should look at, or is anything else coming soon that will fit these requirements. I'm looking to purchase this laptop sometime in the fall of 2011.
Thanks Guys

Get an alienware m14x may or may not be your style though.
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Thinkpads are decent. Just don't get anything from Sony or HP.

Hmm the alienware isn't really my style and seems kind of thick to me. And why the HP hate. I know Sony has some high prices.
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LOL I want this!!!
sent from my kingdomised desire....

I have an HP - a DV7-3077CA. It's VERY hot. And by that, I mean the temperature of the creature.
You said you don't really need vast screens, that's a plus in finding a better price with good hardware. So, as I live in another country (and in one with ABUSIVE taxes - I payed about 2.5X what you would pay for the same laptop there), I can't really say an specific option.
But look for things like this:
A Sandy i5 (basic i7 models come with lower clocks than i5. Of course, their TurboBoost is astounding but they don't always work - I have one, I can tell), with 4GB RAM, at least 500GB HDD, and with a dedicated card. Get something from nVidia (brand wars aside, AMD's drivers are still subpar, and laptops NEED stability), probably there are some 4XX or 5XX series cards going out there. Try to get a video card between the 440-450 or 530-550 models. You won't need higher performance than that for quite some time for what you said, but the basic models are TOO basic.
Now, brands: Speculations aside, HP isn't the worst option either, cooling systems aside. AFAIK, Acer usually builds well. Samsung is getting better.
I just wouldn't recommend Dell & Sony (for pricebranding reasons, also at least around here, Dell's support is nothing of what they promise).
Everything here is basically to say that it's actually easier for you to point at a model and think for yourself if it's good for you. It's better for us to support, but what if we really mess up in the choose?

Good thoughts, I'll be back here in awhile with some examples, but while I'm looking, what is the deal with the ASUS laptops. Can you only get them in certain configurations, and is there anyway to read into the names without clicking on each ones to look at the specs.

Epic picture!! I wanna make one like that from my old laptop

Hey guys, here are just a few of the laptops that have caught my attention as I've been looking.
HP Envy 14 (SB Refresh in June)
HP dm4x
Dell XPS 15
Alienware mx14 (How thick is it? I could live with the looks if its not too thick.)
Lenovo, ASUS, and Acer I havn't had time to go through yet, but are there any particular models of those that stick out and compare with the above.
Edit: Started looking at ASUS, NF43JF can be added to the list above.

Buy a laptop that can't play games so you can focus on studying.
I kid I kid.
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Haha very funny. For real though I also want the power for running things like ableton and Photoshop
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=110241&CatId=4965
Got this same computer in black, does everything i ask it to, when i want it to. Dont be skeched out about the refurb, mine came like it was new. :-D
Id like to thank everyone that helped me root, rom, & nand.
OMFGB, Slayher#27, CWM 3.0.0.8

Get Something made by ASUS. Solid company with great rep. I have a U30Jc with GeForce 310m which will play COD on medium settings. The newer models are even better. http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/

Hmm, seems a little almost 2 powerful for me. I'd like more battery life. Also, im not a huge fan of the brown. But thanks for the suggestion.

I've got a Dell Studio 1558 64x - http://www.dell.com/uk/p/studio-1558/pd
But i wound recommend an XPS 16/16/17 http://www.dell.com/uk/p/studio-1558/pd
or if you have the money a Mac Book ! - but then that depends on what corse your doing...

I would highly suggest not getting anything over 14" for screen size. I have a friend who had a 15" mac book but mainly used an Asus Netbook because it was more portable and better battery life. Ideally get a 13.3" or 14" there the ideal size with a good balance of potability, power and battery.

en4bz said:
I would highly suggest not getting anything over 14" for screen size. I have a friend who had a 15" mac book but mainly used an Asus Netbook because it was more portable and better battery life. Ideally get a 13.3" or 14" there the ideal size with a good balance of potability, power and battery.
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thats a good point,
my dell's a 15.5 inch screen n my dads XPS M1330... its 13.5 which is easy to travel with !

Yea I'm looking mostly at 14s. Has anybody heard anything about the dm4x with sandy bridge
In response to MacBook I already have a ton of windows software so osx isn't really am option
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muerteman said:
Yea I'm looking mostly at 14s. Has anybody heard anything about the dm4x with sandy bridge
In response to MacBook I already have a ton of windows software so osx isn't really am option
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in which case go Linux =) the best way to waste all the Microsoft software !! I Kid i Kid
I love my Dell studio 1558, it so cool, i've given it -
Mac OS X - Kalway 10.5.2
Linux Ubuntu 10.4.02/10.10/11.04
Linux Mint 10.10
ow n Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64 n Home Premium
and it still runs

Nexus 7 ($250) vs IdeaPad A2109 ($300)

Heh, yes it's time for yet another versus thread: Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109.
Both have 16GB, 1280x800 res, Teg3.
N7 has 7" LCD, JB.
Idea has 9" LCD, HDMI-out, rear cam, micro-SD. It has 4.0, so there'll be a lag in getting CM10.
Worth it for +$50? Wait for sale at MicroCenter for $250?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...1du_9_Tablet_Nv_T30Sl_1_2_1_16Gb_Android.html (in stock)
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It really boils down to what you prefer. I like the size of the nexus 7 my only gripe is I wish it had an option for tablet view by default. Having a rear camera is pretty much point less. I never used it on my ipad, its quicker and easier to just use your cellphone. A high resolution front camera would have been nice but they have to save something for the next nexus tablet.
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Thats a lenovo, right? if so, no develooement support from cds really. the crazy developement we have for N7 is worth it alone, imo. plus we know jb is performing well on n7. not sure how ics is performing on ideapad.
Isnt this lenovo attempt to copy apple with a square tablet aka 4:3 aspect ratio? I like the 16.9 or 16:10 widescreen formats. better for multimedia. I know lenovo releases a square tsblet. not sure if its this one.

Nothing beats direct os support from google... At least for me...

>Isnt this lenovo attempt to copy apple with a square tablet aka 4:3 aspect ratio?
That's the S2109, which has OMAP4430. The A2109 is 16:10 and Teg3. Yeah, confusing.
Yep, we'll see how the reviews fare, and it'll be worth waiting to see what kind of 9" or 10" KF2 Amazon has lined up for Sep 6 announcement. I'm not worried about dev support. As long as it's a decent tablet, then $300 for a 9" (with micro-SD expansion) is a great deal => many will buy one => good dev support. Same goes for KF2.
I don't see this directly competing with N7, but more with the 10" tabs. Only N7 competitors will be a possible KF2, and of course the iPad mini.
>Nothing beats direct os support from google... At least for me...
I think CM10 will come along much faster than CM9, and since all these cheap Teg3 tabs have same underpinnings, I don't see much of a lag time to get JB as older tabs had with ICS. So, yes, direct Goog support is always good, but it's not an essential as, say, for the Xoom. The micro-SD means more to me.

That's a pretty good deal.
I think I paid like $280 (including tax and shipping) for my 16 GB Nexus 7, although it did come with a $25 Google Play credit.
I'd wait to see if it gets Cyanogenmod support or something though

A2109: 167 DPI
N7: 213 DPI
For me, there's no comparison. I'll never get anything less than 200 DPI again, and stare at a bunch of ugly pixellated text.

The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot. I wonder if the one @ B&H really has one. There's a review up at gsminsider.com (in Chinese) that says it does not. B&H also lists it as having GPS, but mine does not have that, either.
Edit: Mine has GPS after all, but no micro-SD card slot unless it's hiding under the speaker cover panel...
I've posted as little more info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30778633

Lenovo? Nuff said. Stay away from it.
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>The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot.
Major bummer, but for the price it's still is a good value. Can you post some close-ups? Not that I don't believe you, but a thousand words and all that.
Funny thing, went Googling for tab specs and found this "confidential" doc for A2109A. This 'A' version has the OMAP 4430 and listed a micro-SD port. It was supposed to be out in July. I guess the Kai deal came along, and Lenovo peeps retrofitted to get quad. Sad about the zapped SD port.
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/WW/LA/Direct/es/co/products/tablets/ideapad/A2109A Datasheet.pdf
BTW, the OMAP4 version listed on the Lenovo is the older S2109. The new A2109 is only listed below in "new products," with no specs.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/new-products/
>For me, there's no comparison. I'll never get anything less than 200 DPI again, and stare at a bunch of ugly pixellated text.
Higher res would've been nicer of course. I think 1280x800 is fine for 10" (or 9"), given the lower price. It does pose an interesting comparison between this and the Acer A700 32GB, which is $425 at Newegg. A700's excessive heat ish scared me off.
Anyway, more cheap tabs to come. Acer A210 should be here shortly, and will take over the A200 slot at $250 ($300?). Also Teg3. Downer? Possibly short battery life, like the A200. But BL should be open as with rest of Acer tabs, and it will have full USB port.

mustbepbs said:
Lenovo? Nuff said. Stay away from it.
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why? they make solid laptops.

e.mote said:
>The one I just bought from Best Buy does not have a micro-SD card slot.
Major bummer, but for the price it's still is a good value. Can you post some close-ups? Not that I don't believe you, but a thousand words and all that.
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There are pictures at gsminsider.com. Looks just like the one @ best Buy...
Just search for A2109 at gsminsider.com. There are pictures in the linked review.
Sorry, but I can't post a direct link (< 10 posts, here).

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why? they make solid laptops.
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If by solid you mean solid pieces of feces, then yes, you're right. Over the past 2 years I have bought 4 Lenovo laptops for my customers, from high end to mid range. All of them came back to me with fatal issues, 3 of which were motherboard failure. I'd understand if it was a single model having QA issues, but this was multiple models over a 2 year period. I don't trust Lenovo at all anymore. Or Intel boards.
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I have no problem with my Lenovo laptop at all.
I am very interested in the A2109 with its 9" and HDMI out.
Thinking about the Note 10.1, but it may be too expensive for a toy for me...

Is there any word or feeling of community development with this tablet? I am quite interested in this tablet. I have a N7 and love JB and CM10. I would love to be running both of these with this new tablet. It would certainly be a deal breaker for me. It seems that this tablet has no hype and is very underground.Thanks

Lets put tthis bluntly ..lol. there's no hype about it because no one really pressed about it.Lenovo is low key. They do put out some good stuff. But xda developement has always been dead for it. Lets put it this way. Toshiba has better xda support than lenovo. And Toshiba has none..lol. Toshiba and Lenovo are likely the two worst companies whennit comes to xda support. If xda developer support is a concern, then move on stick with nexus 7 or galaxy note 10.1 those are the 2 hottest devices on the market rigght now in tablets. All the major players. Flocking to those devices.

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Lets put tthis bluntly ..lol. there's no hype about it because no one really pressed about it.Lenovo is low key. They do put out some good stuff. But xda developement has always been dead for it. Lets put it this way. Toshiba has better xda support than lenovo. And Toshiba has none..lol. Toshiba and Lenovo are likely the two worst companies whennit comes to xda support. If xda developer support is a concern, then move on stick with nexus 7 or galaxy note 10.1 those are the 2 hottest devices on the market rigght now in tablets. All the major players. Flocking to those devices.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I wish that there was a bigger development scene for this because it has everything I wish the N7 had.

The idea pad is huge not 7 inch and won't fit into your pocket
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Well you cant really fit the N7 in your pocket either lol

Played with one tonight at Best Buy. Screen wasn't as bad as I feared but it's definitely not great. Also strangely uncomfortable to hold for any length of time. Didn't see a microSD slot (at least one site is reporting expandable memory as a feature). Snappy performance. Nothing else really stood out.
Edit: to clarify, when I say the screen isn't great, I'd say out of the N7, GTab2, and iPad, it's definitely the worst of the bunch

Getting bored with android...talk me out of buying a surface

Been looking at surface rt for fun. They are peaking my curiosity. Kinda bored with android, I had my nexus 7 for 7 months now and its great. Why would I not want to buy a surface rt? They sure are dropping in price fast on craigslist, even the dell xps 10 is now 249-299 brand new with free keyboard covers....... Am I crazy to want a rt?

Should not need to be talked out of anything. If you have the relevent info for both, than get what makes you happy. It is you that has to deal with it, not anyone else.
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Then get a Surface. You don't need our permission.

If you are bored with Android, then you are not going to be happy with Windows.
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DroidRunner said:
If you are bored with Android, then you are not going to be happy with Windows.
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As far as I'm concerned, "Friends don't let friends buy Windows tablets". At least not now.
I had an RT tablet provided by my office for about a month. They bought one for everyone here because of the integrated Office and the keyboard cover, and they figured it would make everyone's lives easier.
It didn't turn out that way.
I'm not going to crap all over Windows 8/RT, because there are a lot of really good things about it and the build quality of the tablet is mostly nice.
But the three biggest problems:
1. The build quality of the soft cover is poor. In less than a month several of us had the soft cover split along the seams. It typed well, but you still had to be careful, because if you didn't hit the key properly sometimes it wouldn't take. On the whole a lot more work than a real keyboard.
2. Office is there, but it's a lot more awkward to use than I thought it would be. Sure, there shortcuts, but the need to pick your finger up to touch the screen all them time really slows you down. Something I'd eventually get used to, I'm sure, but it wasn't easy.
3. There really AREN'T any apps for Windows RT. Sure there are some, and there are apps that are supposed to do many other things, they just aren't the options I would have picked if there was choice. But the things I love tablets for are the apps and they just aren't there.
I also was really disappointed with how much real memory was left after the OS was taken into account. I would have had to manage my media constantly to make it work for me. Again, possible, but not worth it.
After a month our IT group took them back from everyone and said they were looking for another solution.
So, if you're bored with Android, you maybe should try a Windows Tablet, they aren't boring and they will keep you busy, just maybe not for the right reasons.

^thanks man. Solid points. I think I will wait for the new nexus 7. Glad you have a good response unlike the other posters here. I was concerned about the availability of apps for rt. And I'm thinking developers won't hop on board since it seems to be a hard sell and small user base.

Friend has an RT, I have a nexus 7.
Biggest thing is just the feel. I can pull out my nexus 7 and I have my app drawer full of games, customisable homescreen, many apps and things to play with. It's a fun tablet.
When I play with my friend's RT though, after exploring the start menu and desktop, there isn't really much. Games are lacking (except for the big names like jetpack joyride and other popular games), and there's nothing "fun" to do. The desktop is kind of empty, as it can't run windows apps, so pretty much the only thing that populates the desktop is the internet explorer and my computer icon, and assorted computer folders.
However, the RT does win the nexus 7 in many points. Productivity wise, it's brilliant. Microsoft office works really well, and split screen multitasking is cool. If you get the type cover, it becomes a mini laptop that can run all your office apps. The nexus 7 can never catch up unless a better office app shows up on the market.
So now it depends on whether you prefer fun, or productivity.

Sell it and get the Surface then.

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I just got my N7 last week. Still have no case since there's many choices regarding online but less in stores.
There's a slimline moku and another case I'm torn between.
I also got a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard for typing but not really loving it just yet.
Any who anyone find a keyboard / case solution they are happy with?
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Been looking at surface rt for fun. They are peaking my curiosity. Kinda bored with android, I had my nexus 7 for 7 months now and its great. Why would I not want to buy a surface rt? They sure are dropping in price fast on craigslist, even the dell xps 10 is now 249-299 brand new with free keyboard covers....... Am I crazy to want a rt?
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Are you kidding? I've had the opportunity to try a Surface RT, and was happy to give it back to the lender... if you're looking for a windows experience, forget it. It doesn't run any standard Windows programs... the apps it does have are a limited number. The interface is confusing and counterintuitive, and for God's sake, the price is well above what something of its caliberr should run.

I have two cases... and I like both for different reasons.
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I just got my N7 last week. Still have no case since there's many choices regarding online but less in stores.
There's a slimline moku and another case I'm torn between.
I also got a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard for typing but not really loving it just yet.
Any who anyone find a keyboard / case solution they are happy with?
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My main case is a leather portfolio style, with the magnets on the cover for auto on and off. It's the standard go to and there are lots around like it. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=4882380
But my secondary case, which I use for working and productivity was a real find. I bought it off of a recommendation from talkandroid
http://www.talkandroid.com/147462-n...ooks-great-lasts-long-and-costs-little-video/
it was cheap, so I bought it and it works way better than I ever expected in a situation where I need a keyboard. When it's closed it looks great too. You can't really tell from the pictures but the keyboard fits on top of the Nexus 7 to create a kind of hard clamshell for the top of the unit. It's made in a silver plastic with dots that matches perfectly with the tablet.
Unfortunately I have to choose between the cases, I can't use both at once.

PMOttawa said:
My main case is a leather portfolio style, with the magnets on the cover for auto on and off. It's the standard go to and there are lots around like it. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=4882380
But my secondary case, which I use for working and productivity was a real find. I bought it off of a recommendation from talkandroid
http://www.talkandroid.com/147462-n...ooks-great-lasts-long-and-costs-little-video/
it was cheap, so I bought it and it works way better than I ever expected in a situation where I need a keyboard. When it's closed it looks great too. You can't really tell from the pictures but the keyboard fits on top of the Nexus 7 to create a kind of hard clamshell for the top of the unit. It's made in a silver plastic with dots that matches perfectly with the tablet.
Unfortunately I have to choose between the cases, I can't use both at once.
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I also have on of those keyboard covers. They are such great value for money. And the rechargeable battery for keyboard lasts me literally months off a single charge!
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I would get a Surface Pro... if it wasn't so expensive.

If you're bored with android....with all you can do to them.....good luck with anything else.
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Go get a surface. Someone had to buy one eventually..
Don't expect much thou... There are no apps, it's a battery hog, chock full of manufacturing problems, it won't run windows apps (despite the branding).

surface sucks.
done:victory:

I've heard bad things about surface too, like build quality and that the touch screen isn't so good. About apps, you can pay a visit to windows market place yourself to see.
I'd suggest another option, one of those hybrid tablet/laptops running x86 windows 8.
At the very least, you can run bluestacks or virtual android on it, and have a fully functional PC which transforms into android if you need it.
Of course it's a bit more expensive, but it's not like they are giving surfaces away for free.
I've been getting bored with android too, but that's the phone, I'm keeping my N7 forever
I might get a Lumia instead of my Xperia though.

I really want(ed) a Windows 8 tablet, too.
My problem is that there doesn't seem to be many good x86 ones. There's some meh-priced RT tablets but Windows RT is immensely more limited.
I've completely held off from getting a Windows x86 tablet because every damned one I try out in Future Shop and Best Buy with the Atom are slow, sluggish, freeze often and just seem laggy as hell.
I'm avoiding them all for now, and eyeballing Acer's upcoming 8 inch x86 Windows tablet which may be cheaper and has a small form factor like my N7.

I'm personally waiting a year or two for them to smooth things out. The hardware is too overpriced for what you get and having legacy x86 applications isn't that great when they're not meant for touch. Windows RT is also a joke unless they let devs compile for the desktop. They're totally cool though but not good enough for me.
Hopefully Android x86 will also mature by then so I don't have to give up the ecosystem.