It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
It depends on what you are wanting to do with it.
I was running autonooter 1.1 and liked the stock B&N app.
I was waiting for autonooter 1.2 to get all the kinks worked out so I could keep my magazines that I have subscriptions for.
That all changed when B&N updated their App in the android market to include Books and Magazines/ Newspapers.
I installed CM7 nightly 72 over the weekend w/ the overclock and I don't see a reason to go back to rooted stock 1.2. Took me about 30 minutes to download the files and install the ROM. Been running perfectly.
In my mind the only reason to keep the stock software on the Nook is if you need to have access to the children's books. Otherwise, put CM7 on there.
I Am Marino said:
It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
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The only issue I'm running into on CM7 beta 3.1 is the occasional system freeze requiring a reboot. No doubt that'll be sorted out soon. It's completely worth it if you put the right ROM on there.
1.2 is actually easier, i have market working, netflix, and oc to 1.2g all of my apps that I use work...having flash was the key for me and now I have it
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IMO I have been running the CM7 stable off a uSD card and couldn't be happier.
Took me 20 minutes maybe to get the files downloaded and installed and I very happy I did.
Wish I had wait a day later because B&N updated the android app. If I had know that, I would have installed directly to the nook..... No card...
But, that said.... It's the best 250 bucks I have spent....
I have everything on it I need for a tablet and it runs very stable....
So... I read my books.... I watch my Netflix..... I read my e-mail.... I surf the net.... I play my games....
Lego
So it's still simple enough to root?
And is it better to run it off SD or try to make the eMMC work since B&N messed with it?
At this point, you might as well at least wait until the 24th and see what it is B&N are releasing. Personally, I think it'll be a Nook Classic refresh, but it'd suck to buy a NC and have it obsolete in a week.
Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
It is very easy to root and I believe you will get the best overall performance installing to emmc.
Best 250 I've ever spent and it has totally replaced my laptop now that Netflix is working. Running Cm7.
I Am Marino said:
It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
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If anything, it's a better deal now. The latest CM7 update (finally) fixed the battery / sleep issues. Plus, B&N updated their reader app for Android. I haven't tried it, but I've heard that it's now compatible with magazines.
This pretty much eliminates the need to root the stock version. I'm even running everything off of an SD card and the performance is fantastic.
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Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
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I concur.
I haven't been able to put it down.
I would say it's definitely worth it. I use this more than my laptop or phone (both of which I use to use extensively). I'm hard pressed to come up with a device that I'd rather have in the near future. Most rooting and install procedures are fairly easy and only require a small amount of reading to understand.
And don't be afraid of all the "problems" popping up. Most of those are beta builds (which you don't have to use) or people not reading instructions properly.
absolutely worth it. I bought the iconia tab and used it for two weeks and returned it because I couldn't deal with all the force closes related to HC. So I picked up the nook couple days ago and love it. It came without the newest update. I rooted it and installed cm7 to emmc. I have harbor problems with it. Ad hoc tether works with no modifications flash works perfect market is there.
Don't bother with the autonooter to install on the SD card since the be nook app has everything except read to me.
All in all my rooted nook color performs far better than the iconia tab I bought. Well worth the $250!
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Are you still able to mount CM7 to the eMMC based off that new thing with only 1GB is able to be used?
If everyone who doesn't know the difference between rooting, flashing, ROMs, SD, eMMC and all the rest would please read this blog post, http://quinxy.com/guides/how-to-pick-your-nook-color-operating-system-and-install-options/ then this discussion may turn halfway coherent. Some of the version numbers may be out of date, but it will get you somewhat grounded in what's what.
As someone partly said, most of the problems you see come about because
1) people don't read directions
2) they just get hooked on tinkering with the thing and eventually something goes wrong.
A lot of the "problems" aren't even problems so much as the geek equivalent of a bunch of guys standing around a muscle car talking about whether to put on spoilers or stuff a subwoofer in the trunk.
I was initially planning to set up some kind of dual-boot on eMMC, but saw a really easy method for getting an SD install running, as well as a good card recommendation, and decided to take CM7 for a test-drive first. It runs so smooth from SD, I just dropped in an OC kernel and let it be. A lot of people are jumping straight to the beta, but I'm getting much better performance from the latest stable build, CM7.0.3, and I can deal with 5-6 hours use and two days on stand-by until they work out the other kinks in the beta. Everything I used for my build is at the link in my sig.
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Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
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So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
HarryCz said:
So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
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But coming back from fairyland, the NC is a good value regardless of what comes out next week, which will probably be large-format e-ink and is almost certainly timed to keep the wind in the NC's sails, not leave it adrift.
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But coming back from fairyland, the NC is a good value regardless of what comes out next week, which will probably be large-format e-ink and is almost certainly timed to keep the wind in the NC's sails, not leave it adrift.
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I would be very surprised if it is some kind of upgrade to the Nook Color. B&N has to stay competitive with the $114 ad supported Kindle and I am guessing that this will be an e-ink reader in the $100-125 range or you could be right, it could be a large format reader. It seems unlikely that B&N would upgrade the Nook Color and then release a new one a couple of weeks later.
I have been lusting after the Asus eee pad transformer but that is mostly due to how much I love the Nook Color. I would never have considered spending more than $300 on a device like this but like an earlier poster, I use it more than my laptop or my phone.
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I have been lusting after the Asus eee pad transformer but that is mostly due to how much I love the Nook Color. I would never have considered spending more than $300 on a device like this but like an earlier poster, I use it more than my laptop or my phone.
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Agreed.
Let me echo the thoughts of another poster: once the B&N Android App supported magazines, I saw no reason not to go with a CM7 install. I'm currently running Phiremod 1.2, and it's fantastic. Even though it's running the older kernel that doesn't put the machine into "deep sleep" I'm finding that battery life is great. It should easily last you all day. Just re-charge every night (which I do anyway) and everything is good.
I'm also loving the idea of the Asus eepad. I can't wait to go full Android and get windows (mostly) out of my private life for good. (Of course, as a Windows System Administrator it'll be a long time before I get Windows out of my professional life, LOL!)
I think we're still a couple of years off from Android becoming a viable OS alternative to Windows, but it won't be long, IMHO.
I have a rooted 1.2 with MN and I love this little baby!!! I overclocked stock rom to 1.1 mhz and it flies. I have had some visibility issues with the market but have been able to find most apps I want (had to sideload a few).
Now with the updated Nook app I might put CM7 or Phiremod into it but my stock OC setup works so nicely that I might hold off a little bit.
The 24th is near so I would wait and see but I dont think the announcement would be anything that makes the NC obsolete. My wishes for a NC 2?:
1. I think 7.5" or 8" would be an even better screen size, nothing bigger than that.
2. Native speed of at least 1mhz
3. Re design of the newspaper layout : keep the same format as today but add a "newsstand format" just like magazines, where I can see the ads and original formatting.
4. Bump memory to 1 gb
5. Gingerbread
Things I know I will never get:
1. Price drop to $225 or $200
2. on board GPS
3. Native full market access (as a tradeoff I'll let them block reader apps except Nook app)
3. Mini HDMI
HarryCz said:
So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
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Awww Cmon now gimmie a break. Im not important. If hes smart and theres no reason to think hes not then he will no doubt take into account everyones opinion here. You have 5 posts and your calling me out? Funny.
With that being said from what ive been reading the experts are expecting something to replace the E ink reader not the Nook Color. If they do release a Nook Color replacement well then is it really that big a loss? Does that make the Original that much worse? Not everyone is hung up on specs and even still the Nook Color has more room to grow.
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My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance
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My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance
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No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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i agree 100%, messing with froyo, cm7, hc is good but you lose the great nook reader apps, (theres an market version but its not as good) and there not working perfectly yet.
Thanks guys...
I can still replace her launcher etc with zeam/launcher pro on a rooted nook correct?
I get my own NC soon (which I will be playing with).
I have also noticed the work on porting the stock app.
Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.
Dualboot to save your marriage! worked for me.. lol
khaytsus said:
Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.
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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.
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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.
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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?
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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?
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It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
Just realized you were asking a more refined question: after rooting, is stock launcher required for in store experience. I want to try this today and will let you know.
There are now widespread reports of B&N updating the stock NC to 2.2 with Flash and B&N Market in a couple of weeks.
Waiting until then is probably the best bet for those who like the B&N features.
But admittedly the ability to wait a couple of weeks is probably rare these days.
Also, the OP stated:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
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Of course, the stock Nook Color already has "apps".
Perhaps there is a specific app that she wants ?
Considering that most apps already run on the NC with Nookie Froyo installed, then it seems likely that the B&N Market will attract most of the popular apps, since they won't have to change anything in the code.
About the only apps that you will definitely not see is Reader Apps.
Lastly, "Wife Approval Factor" is a term that describes your wife's approval of something that you bought for yourself - 51 inch plasma TV, 4 foot high stereo speakers, etc.
mutant13 said:
No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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You gentleman do realize that sometimes it's the WIFE who wants the complicated stuff and the husband who is still running stock, right? I had to configure tasker this morning on my husbands nexus one so that it would turn the sound off during meetings and back on afterwards, than installed CM7 on my nook color for kicks.
Having said that the stock is the most stable right now, and there are very few apps you can't install. (The only problems I had were with 2.2+ apps [stupid zombies] and things that required the phone stack [swype].)
doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
Also, in regards to the OP, keep it stock 2.1 for your wife. I have yet to find an app that doesn't work on it, it's extremely stable, and the stock reader app is almost too bad ass to give up for 2.2, cm7, or the buggy as all hell HC.
doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?
elwopo said:
Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
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I think it has to do with where you start. On my wife's nook, which was autonootered from 1.0.1, the reading icon doesn't work. On my nook, autonootered from 1.1.0, the reading icon does work. Simple as that. I'd love to be able to offer some slick thing I did to get it to work, but I didn't. Probably try and see if the 1.1.0 r2 thing will fix it for her but she's operational right now anyway.
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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?
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Tested this morning. Works perfectly. As soon as I connected to the B&N network, the shop popped up and had the banner with free books, etc. I even downloaded the Oprah biography to "start reading" for free. I use Zeam as my default launcher.
My daughter rooted her 1.1 color nook and is thrilled with the 'cool apps'
She hasn't tested the instore functionality, but she did install the home switcher so she can switch back to the B&N home. I think that should allow instore functionality.
She posted a youtube video of how she rooted it. Thanks to everyone here for making it so easy!
Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?
Galaxy Tab will be your choice for mobility and performance. After you root it and load with custom Rom , you will fall in love with it. My son loves it
I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!
pendevous said:
I think that it's a good idea, but keep in mind that the Nook Color is really customizable and is offered at a low price. What you do get with the Tab is better performance, better screen, and... Well, just about better everything, except the price tag and the battery life.
However, consider getting the 3G version as well if you really plan to use the internet anywhere. It's fun!
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Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...
I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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I would avoid it - mine is laggy and expensive
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user error.
piercenkc said:
Isn't it like $20/month? I'm going to be getting a Samsung Epic here soon, and I live in Kansas City so 4G is great here.
I was trying to avoid a monthly plan. Plus I'm also leaving for Paris at the end of August for 9 months. Didn't figure I'd be using 3G much while overseas...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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The wifi version is crippled, go with the 3g. No h264 decoding, up to 720p only (and only in mp4!), and different hardware so you will need to get a custom rom for the wifi version, one for the 3g wouldn't work. Apparently they don't even have the same cpu...
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source? I'm curious about this.
Galaxy tab is the best . but why u wont wait for tab10.1 and don't tell me is big ..
yeah is big . but OMG
i would say that the gtab is the best device i have ever bought. i have no regrets purchasing it for the full price. no other tablet (thats out now) can compete with this 7" beauty. its the best 7" tablet on the market right now,hands down! screw the nook color. i use this thing every single day. its my main device, i carry only this device, no cell phone. battery life is great for its size. but after 6 months of using it, i feel like i need to upgrade it. i know this seems like a total 180, but i want a dual core version with honeycomb (and some more RAM) but with the exact same size. everything else is great! the only reason im saying this is because i consider myself a heavy power user (the elite of the elite) and i feel like sometimes it just doesnt keep up. but if ur not like me then this will feel like its blazin fast for you. since i know that i wont get what i want, i still recommend this to people considering a nook color something else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038171
Have a look at this thread, it seems the wifi tab can only play divx at 720p and not h264 720p like the 3g can. If video playback is a major reason for buying the tab then stick to the 3g version!
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Hello, I'm thinking of getting the 7" Galaxy Tab (wifi only) and wanted to see what everyone thought about it. What are the pros/cons, and is this the best tablet out there for the money?
We currently have a rooted Nook, so I imagine it will be close to that (but better) - but that is my wife's. I wanted something for myself, something with great hardware performance, but also easier to carry around than an iPad2.
What do you guys think?
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The Tab is by far the best phone/tablet hybrid out there right now. The important factors to me are:
* size (pocketable)
* screen resolution
* build quality
* GPU acceleration for HD video
I took it with me last week while travelling around Krakow, Poland. Picked up a Polish Internet SIM for £10 or so. It was like having a personal guide at all times. Google Places, Tripadvisor app, email, websites. All there at the touch of a button, and all pocketable. An iPad would be useless for such a trip.
I think it's best to think of the Galaxy Tab as a sort of phone/tablet hybrid rather than just a tablet. Honeycomb will not be targeted at this device as physically it's as much a phone as a tablet. This is a good thing as Honeycomb tablets are too big to carry around town and are lacking in telephony. The OS update after Honeycomb will bring that OS's functionality for smaller devices, but for now it can seem an oddity as it needs a phone OS (Froyo, Gingerbread etc) to be fully functional.
As it stand though, there's nothing that can match it .
I originally bought the Viewsonic G-Tab because it had the Tegra 2 processor and Xoom like hardware. Even though the screen was 10.1" it was terrible to see from almost all angles.
I decided to exchange it for the wifi only Tab and I have not been disappointed. It looks great and I actually think I prefer the smaller screen than I did the 10.1 tablet. I find the weight is more evenly distributed in your hands and that I can more easily type since my hands can span the screen. It doesn't sound like a big deal but unlike my phone I find myself using this thing for hours at a time and holding the larger heavier tablet wears on you after a while.
The battery life is decent even with heavy use. The device feels sturdy and well put together. I think the touch is responsive and the glare on the glass is not any worse then the other tablets out there.
I know I have heard how the wifi version is not as good as the 3G version. Honestly, I have a Vibrant that I can tether off of and I don't need the 3G and added monthly costs. I am almost always around an access point anyway. It runs fast and downloads better than my phone. I would like to have custom roms to put on it but I rooted it and added VT-Launcher and it looks like a different tablet.
Finally, I looked at Honeycomb and those tablets. I really don't see the big deal. The 2.2.1 FroYo does everything that you would want from a tablet with the right apps. I can do everything I need to and then some. Honeycomb isn't going to add any capabilities that I don't already have. My only complaints with the Tab is that it doesn't charge with the USB from a PC (at least very fast) and that the VPN isn't working for me with PPTP right now. I have a call into Samsung and I hope to get that resolved soon. Otherwise, this is a great buy.
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
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As Sarsippius already posted, this thread has some hard facts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12957975
See the box pictures in that thread?
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There we go, I think I fixed that. Sorry for the double post.
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i'm still having doubts with my Tab (wifi version) since i'm unable to "use" its full potential. i didn't bother though getting the 3g version since i have a small phone at hand.
i'm a little unsatisfied but it's all good. i primarily use it for viewing and editing documents, surfing the net and some music and audio. that's pretty much it. if there's someone who'd be able to do a custom rom for the wifi version, then i'd be recommending this Tab.
I have both a Nook and a Sprint G-tab. If I wouldnt have gotten the deal I did on the G-Tab (company paid for it) I would return it. not that it is a bad unit, I am pretty pleased with it. My Nook has CM7 loaded on it and comparing the two comes out pretty much a wash. They are both great devices. I use the crap out of a tablet and both do everything that I want them to do.
Just my $.02 on the subject.
Ad says its running cm7. Anything I should look for or check to make sure I'm not getting screwed?
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Don't pay extra because it has CM7 is on it. Installing CM7 is almost trivial now days. Going back to stock can be pain, not because it's difficult but because there are so many different tutorials and its confusing.
I would say skip it and buy one so you can hack it and learn. I wouldn't hesitate if the CM7 one is a good deal. You can pick up refurbed NCs for about $200 on line. If there is an issue with a refurb BN is pretty good about replacing it.
If it works good and looks good it should be fine. Read developers posts to set up the way you want. You can even put it back to stock if you want.
Someone smarter than I can probably give more details on this but I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy it with CM7 already installed. It might seem like a time saver but when I was playing with my girlfriends NC I wiped, cleared, did a bunch of stuff and when I went back to stock it would only let me register it with the ORIGINAL email and password. To put it another way, if they did not de-register the device before installing CM7 going back to stock will be (in my experience) a real pain in the neck since you have to have that original info to clear BN's opening screens and be able to attach the device to your email / account. There might be some simple way around this but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the threads I've read. Personally I would rather buy one that is stock so I can just go in and click de-register and know it's done rather than have someone tell me it was and not know if they remembered things accurately. I'm sure a call to BN would eventually fix it but that's not much fun.
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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I'll give you first hand why you should be wary of Craig's list with CM7.
Here's the 'scam' that's being run - these guys get a bad credit card or a bad check or whatever and buy the nook. Or maybe they just swipe one. As soon as B&N finds out, with a report from a store or from the stolen credit card, they blacklist the device. The actual device serial number is on the receipts, so they can do this.
Now, what that means is that you can't register the NC, no matter how hard you try. B&N won't unblacklist it, even if you're the "unknowing victim" here. If you're running CM7, no big deal. But if you want to run stock, you would have issues. And that's if you can live with having stolen merchandise.
After getting rooked like this, I just ask for the device serial number. If they're legit, they should have no problems giving it to you. Then just call up B&N and tell them you're buying a used Nook and you want to make sure that it's legit. They'll be able to tell you when and where it was purchased (by store #, but you can look that up) and whether it is blacklisted or not.
I had one someone was was selling one "New in the box" for $200. It was purchased in Atlanta on Friday and on Craig's list on Tuesday, 750 miles away. I don't think they realized what I would do with the serial number, but once I saw that, I knew it was a scam - why would anyone take a $50 loss on an unopened Nook 4 days after buying it?
Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
BTW make sure there's a sdcard. 2GB at least.
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Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
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I got the serial number without a fuss, called B an N, but they just gave me the run around... what number did you call? I used 1-800-the-book....
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I think the first time I had to call them I used the-book and then they gave me another number at one point, but they should have been able to help you. I had no problems at all - called 3 different times and got answers and info.
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Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Not entirely sure what the challenges would be other than power connections, Market access and possibly wifi protocols. I've read in Canada Google Apps shows different apps than here in USA so that might be applicable there. Not sure. I would definately check the power/recharge specs though. I'm sure there are other more knowledgable on this than I here who can chime in.
As we are not concerned about connecting to a Network, i dont think there should be any other issue. We are on Android, so connecting to a Market should be something easy to overcome!
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Yes i know thanks, bought about 200 things from internet outside europe
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Caution is always needed but I've bought 4 off of craigslist. Even if cm7 is already installed you can always wipe n reinstall -assuming of course you don't need stock nook
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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It was already flashed when I bought it. So that may be the problem. I havent had time to sit down mess with it yet. Hopefully the 2.3.4 drops this week then I'll just upgrade to that.
I searched the forums for this, but I never found any straightforward (or in plain and simple English) answers that helped me. I don't know how to root or how to mod my devices or even some of the terminology. I also know that some of you might laugh at me for my lack of knowledge, but I get that anyway for how I walk sometimes (I have MS) LOL.
I just bought a New Nook Color today (yay for me!). I have a Samsung Epic 4g. I used an app called Application backup that gets all of the APK files into a zip file on the SD card. I have a 16gb SD card. I transferred my info from my 16 GB card to another 16 GB card via my computer. I put the 2nd SD card into my Nook and the Nook did not recognize any of the Apps from my phone. I figured that since they are both running Froyo, that it would work. What did I do wrong?
Also, I figured that since I upgraded the Nook to B&N's new Froyo, that I would be able to get onto the Android Market, not just B&N's somewhat crappy App store. How can I access the Market from my new Nook Color?
Also, can I run Google Voice and make calls from my new Nook? Just wondering, it's not necessary, but I would like to at least text message from it, if possible. Also, can I really get that Playon app and play Netflix and Hulu content as well? That would be amazing!
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help this big ol' dummy!
There's plenty of easy to follow guides about how to root, flash custom ROMs, etc all over this part of the forum, just gotta go looking. You'll need root to watch the Netflix app on your NC, same with getting the market.
There's an easier way to install the apps on your NC. Just download the Appbrain app on both NC and your phone, then you can see the list of apps on your phone and install them on your NC as well.
I've got a rooted NC with phiremod installed, so I can't tell you how to access the market on any unrooted device. Hope someone else can help you with that.
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There's an easier way to install the apps on your NC. Just download the Appbrain app on both NC and your phone, then you can see the list of apps on your phone and install them on your NC as well.
I've got a rooted NC with phiremod installed, so I can't tell you how to access the market on any unrooted device. Hope someone else can help you with that.
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A completely stock NC can't access the marketplace.
OP, look for the "manual nooter" thread, probably in the Dev subforum. Nootering is the closest to stock you can be and use the non-B&N marketplace.
so i just got a gtab and was playing around with it. got a custom mod on there(vegan 5.1.1, love it) and my mom saw me saying "is that an ipad?". told her no, showed her some of the features and she suggested we get something like that for my grandma. without knowing really much about the nook color at all i do know this would probably be a better option for her than an ipad or gtablet.
just wondering if there are stable enough roms out there where i could do everything at once when i buy it and kind of show her how to navigate websites, email, watch videos, etc(pretty much basic computing, shes old lol) over a weekend when shes here(she lives 6 hours away and coming to visit next week)? because once she leaves i won't be able to update or help her troubleshoot it till like Christmas.
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so i just got a gtab and was playing around with it. got a custom mod on there(vegan 5.1.1, love it) and my mom saw me saying "is that an ipad?". told her no, showed her some of the features and she suggested we get something like that for my grandma. without knowing really much about the nook color at all i do know this would probably be a better option for her than an ipad or gtablet.
just wondering if there are stable enough roms out there where i could do everything at once when i buy it and kind of show her how to navigate websites, email, watch videos, etc(pretty much basic computing, shes old lol) over a weekend when shes here(she lives 6 hours away and coming to visit next week)? because once she leaves i won't be able to update or help her troubleshoot it till like Christmas.
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This might be better in its own thread if you want more replies, but I can tell you my own experience with customized tech devies as gifts to people who aren't tech savvy and can't or have no interest in learning. Never works out well, for me.
If your grandma likes to keep up with and learn about the latest gear, or if she's interested in starting, a rooted or moded NC would be good. But if she's not, you need a device you can set up for her once and have it run without need for updates or maintenance for a long period of time. Something she can just use. In that case the extra expense is worth it.
Also, a screen larger than the NC's would probably be easier for her, depending on her sight.
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Also, a screen larger than the NC's would probably be easier for her, depending on her sight.
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This is a very good point. I thought about getting a tablet for my dad, and the same considerations occurred to me. If your grandmother is using it primarily to read books, then the small screen isn't as much of an issue, since the fonts can be sized up in the reader app without much detrimental effect. But scaling up a large font in the web browser will likely make the web browsing experience painful, since many websites are so tightly formatted. "Zoom in and pan around" is a horrible way to use the web... Also, the smaller the screen is, the finer the motor control necessary to operate the touch screen controls, which may be another issue for an older person.
I came to the conclusion that a 7-inch tablet just isn't going to be very useful for an elderly person, and the Nook has enough little quirks when used as a tablet that it would likely be a frustrating experience for a non-techie person.
I really would not recommend CM7 NC or even rooted stock NC for an elderly person or technologically illiterate person for a couple of reasons:
1. The default UI is nowhere near as non-techy-user-friendly as iOS (I'm OS-agnostic, hate proprietary software, but hey, it's true) and there's no locking down of features (admin mode vs limited user, etc) to prevent someone accidentally damaging the install or removing something they shouldn't. Maybe you could find a heavily modded theme to be friendlier.
2. The screen is, at 7", perfect for me as a reader but my (elderly) mother complained about the small screen size (needing much bigger fonts). You can fix that somewhat by (obviously) using bigger fonts in CM7 and also by editing the lcd density, but the latter can cause issues with some apps. It's not exactly difficult to fudge fingering through the menus and opening apps by accident, or just mistyping because of the smaller keyboard.
I told my mother, who was liking my (CM7) Nook despite complaining about eye strain and fingering issues, that she was probably better off spending $100 more on the upcoming 9.7" Amazon tablet this fall if she could wait. While it's probably going to be as locked down as the iPad to begin with, I won't have to worry about bugs in nightlies (or even stables, e.g., no deep sleep in pre-.32 releases) or whether or not she'll accidentally break some app etc. While it sucks to be limited to 1 ereader store (technically), if Amazon allows generic ereader apps like Bluefire or Aldiko she could still have access to epubs from competing stores if she needed it. If it ends up being rootable to allow 3rd-party apps and Google Android Market then it's a win-win with a polished, user-friendly modded android OS from Amazon.
I'm not bashing the Nook or CM7 - I love mine and I love being able to tweak and experiment with it, but it's not something that a non-techy would be able to tread fearlessly in -- look how many threads here are posted with people being lost about doing a basic SD CM7 install or following one of the step-by-step rooting guides.
Responding to the grandma tangent, I think everyone is underestimating the appeal of the stock Nook Color for people who don't know what they're doing. There are plenty of non-tech-savvy people over at mobileread (well, tech savvy enough to post on a forum, but otherwise...) who are thrilled with their stock NCs. Three-million-plus of these things have sold, and most of those people are not rooting them or putting on custom ROMs.
Someone familiar with Android devices who goes into it expecting an Android device might find it limiting, but for someone with no clue, the fact that it only does a few things is a pro, not a con.
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But scaling up a large font in the web browser will likely make the web browsing experience painful, since many websites are so tightly formatted. "Zoom in and pan around" is a horrible way to use the web...
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I don't remember just how the NC stock browser works, but most Android browsers are smarter than that. Often a double-tap on a column of text will get it centered at a manageable size, and if not you can zoom to the desired text size and double-tap again to reflow it just like a book. Whenever I come to an article of more than a few paragraphs on my PC, I stop and pick up the NC for a more comfortable reading experience (or send the link to the NC for later, depending on what I'm doing).
I don't think anyone is underestimating the stock Nook Color for what it is. But the original question was about "stable ROMs" and the comparison of the Nook vs. a full Android tablet or iPad. I'd have no problem giving almost anyone a Nook Color if it was left as an unrooted, stock device (because tech support would then be B&N's problem!), with the understanding that it was going to be used as intended: as an excellent e-reader that happens to do a little bit of internet stuff sort of passably well.
But if you're talking about putting Cyanogen or something on the thing and sending it to grandma's house six hours away and hoping for everything to go smoothly (which was, I think, nuttybardudes's intent), I think that's very likely to end up in frustration for everyone involved.
Agreed. I'm saying he's overthinking it--just buying a NC and handing it to her (well, maybe helping her register it) may be his best option. .
It's Official our beloved Nook Color has been Outclassed Completely as best Developer Tablet
Meet the Nexus 7:
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It's got Specs that Dwarf anything Amazon and B&N have yet somehow manages to claim the same Price Tag. Here are the Specs:
7-inch 1280 x 800 display
Quad-processor
Tegra 3 12-core GPU
8 GB and 16 GB models
1 GB of RAM
1.2 MP front-facing camera
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, gyroscope
9 hours video playback
300 hours standby
340 grams
Chrome as standard browser
$199 8gb($249 16gb), shipping mid-July to US, Canada, Australia and UK, preorders available today
Includes $25 credit in Google Play store, lots of preloaded goodies
That List One Ups anything else Available in this Price Range. It's Available for Preorder from the Google Play Store HERE
So what do you think of B&N and Amazon's new monolithic Competitor?
I'll definitely be getting one for the hardware (the phone UI throws me). I haven't decided if I'll sell the NC cheap, or re-purpose it for use around the house. It can always be used for use in kitchen as a media stream, living room for remote control, perhaps the car as a GPS/receiver. The NC isn't completely dead :fingers-crossed:
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I'll definitely be getting one for the hardware (the phone UI throws me). I haven't decided if I'll sell the NC cheap, or re-purpose it for use around the house. It can always be used for use in kitchen as a media stream, living room for remote control, perhaps the car as a GPS/receiver. The NC isn't completely dead :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, with CM9 the Nook Color finally is getting the Tablet treatment it deserves(Not Customised Phone like CM7) but with the Nexus 7 I'm actually considering the selling of my NC that I've used and loved for 2 1/2 years. This is the most torn I've felt in awhile. With the NC only just getting ICS(and still missing certain important things as of now), the Nexus 7 with Jellybean and Quad-Core CPU is flat-out tough to ignore.
My Nook has been my constant companion for a year and a half..had a half dozen different roms starting with autonooter. I even purchased a murse (man purse) to carry it in.... Really going to be hard to put it on a shelf!!!! BUT, this thing looks great and the price for the 16g is what I paid for my Nook!!! And I have a birthday coming in two weeks!!!:silly:
But no SD slot. And phone GUI is standard, even though HD device.
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But no SD slot. And phone GUI is standard, even though HD device.
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Where did you hear about Phone UI? And how is that necessarily a bad thing? Who knows if it works better or not, we haven't gotten our hands on Jellybean yet. Lack of MicroSD slot I agree is a big Con but let's hold out on whether the UI will be bad. The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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Where did you hear about Phone UI? And how is that necessarily a bad thing? Who knows if it works better or not, we haven't gotten our hands on Jellybean yet. Lack of MicroSD slot I agree is a big Con but let's hold out on whether the UI will be bad. The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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check out the device pictures and the video on the Play device store page. I too am reserving judgement till I've played with one in person
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The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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I didn't say the phone gui was bad. I use the phone gui on my nook color and like it. I just wanted people to know that's how it came. No tablet gui.
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I didn't say the phone gui was bad. I use the phone gui on my nook color and like it. I just wanted people to know that's how it came. No tablet gui.
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Sorry, didn't mean to point fingures.
One other downside.....no reason to root right away!!!!:laugh::crying:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-hands-and-initial-review
Answers our UI question. They have changed it so that Tablets(at Least 7inchers) get the Phone UI but made it so it takes advantage of the larger screen. So yes it's the Phone UI, but No it doesn't suck like the Android 2.2 and 2.3 UIs did.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-hands-and-initial-review
Answers our UI question. They have changed it so that Tablets(at Least 7inchers) get the Phone UI but made it so it takes advantage of the larger screen. So yes it's the Phone UI, but No it doesn't suck like the Android 2.2 and 2.3 UIs did.
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The phone GUI on the Nexus is exactly the same as ICS in phone mode. Thin status bar on top and bigger, centered navbar at the bottom. Like I said earlier, I use it and like it. Google said they were trying to streamline and standardize the user experience.
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Exciting stuff.
Well I preordered it. I had skipped the kindle/NT (though I do adore the omap4s, I didn't want to reward BN for locking their bootloader)... but dalingrin talked me into this months ago when it was that announced $250 ASUS 7" quad core device, so now that it's finally out I'm getting one.
Also just loaned away my TP-- 10.1" is too big for me, at least with that heavy monster. It was a great deal and a great project, but 7" is right for me.
That said- my NC is my baby and it ain't goin' nowhere.
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Well I preordered it. I had skipped the kindle/NT (though I do adore the omap4s, I didn't want to reward BN for locking their bootloader)... but dalingrin talked me into this months ago when it was that announced $250 ASUS 7" quad core device, so now that it's finally out I'm getting one.
Also just loaned away my TP-- 10.1" is too big for me, at least with that heavy monster. It was a great deal and a great project, but 7" is right for me.
That said- my NC is my baby and it ain't goin' nowhere.
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Hear! Hear! You Certainly have helped make the NC so great.
I would have loved to get a Nexus if it had a sd card slot
Would have bought a Nexus 7 today if it would have had an SD card slot. Oh well.
Preordered 2 of the 16gb models and sold my NC for $115 (w/2g SD) just now. Sooooo.... Here's my last post in the Nook Color forum: Thanks for the fun, devs - see you in the Nexus 7 forum!
There's a case too...
A quick tip for anyone grabbing a n7-- if you get the case, do it in the same purchase order, and you won't be charged extra for shipping.
If you already ordered before the case made its appearance in the store (as I did earlier today), you can call google, cancel the old order and do a new combined one.
$20 for a custom case is a pretty good deal i think considering that HP was charging $70 or something even AFTER they discontinued the touchpad.
As for the venerable NC-- it was introduced in 2010, remember. And its growing inexpense and SD-bootability make it, I think, still a great, fun device for learning to mess around w/Android without much risk of bricking.
(That said, keep in mind I still think the Apple II is awesome :cyclops
The lack of user loadable storage (SDCard) completely destroyed any chance of getting this on my part. I'll probably play with my Nook Color until it either goes bust or something else comes along that is the Nexus + SDCard. This is a disappointing misstep as far as I'm concerned.
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Man, Fat tire and Dalingrin getting one and who knows what other awesome devs are getting one. I have a strong feeling development on this is going to be epic!
I'll also be getting one as soon as I can ( probably on my trip to europe in august )
Lot's of exciting things
Tho , I still hope kernel 3.x will take a giant step forward soon so I can use the nook as the CarPc replacement I intended it for and my N7 as my fun/development tablet
I really hope the PDK will bring some exciting times
one article said they decided to open it to all users instead of just oems - if that's true it might be one of the biggest things ever ( like all-in-all sources library , oem and developers work together )