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mac user thread (for the pc rebels!)

well this thread is for anyone who uses a mac and wants to use pocket pc's till the iphone comes out ok?

bdap said:
well this thread is for anyone who uses a mac and wants to use pocket pc's till the iphone comes out ok?
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this thread was guaranteed to fail seeing as your promoting the iPhone, when we have so many sleepless nights trying to prove they're not as good as Pocket PCs.
but seeing as i kno i'm talkin to a Mac user, i wanna ask a couple of qus lol. i'm getting one as a leaving school present and can u flash roms on them? are they tweakable? what limitations do they have with hardware you can put in...ie hard drives, flash drives, feature phones etc.
thanks for your time

basically with the iphone you can do sweet FA. not even 3rd party apps can be used, only what comes with the phone. this + low screen resolution + poor battery + No 3G means i would NEVER consider get one.

Midget_1990 said:
basically with the iphone you can do sweet FA. not even 3rd party apps can be used, only what comes with the phone. this + low screen resolution + poor battery + No 3G means i would NEVER consider get one.
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lol - i those 'hello, I'm a mac, and I'm a pc...' ads we have (in the uk at least) i hate that everything they say is backwards, and mac claim to be perfect for everyone 'out of the box'. what i love about pcs and ppcs is being able to make them work how i want

I can't believe the excuse for making it a closed system. "Third party apps will crash phone networks", I have tried to do things I shouldn't on networks and they don't crash so easy!
No 3g, why not throw in a nickel cadmium battery and make it really prehistoric?
Pocket PC has an image problem, regular people think it crashes. From my extensive use, it is very stable and any bugs normally get fixed because it is so open. IPone will be a flash in the pan. This is no ipod, there is real competition in the mobile computing market and it will not be so easy to dominate.

well, i for one am happy thats a closed system, no f*king arround so it wont get messed up. aslong it simply works its fine for me. and the thing itself is more appealing to me then the pda's, stupid windows has flaws all over the place.

xixis said:
well, i for one am happy thats a closed system, no f*king arround so it wont get messed up. aslong it simply works its fine for me. and the thing itself is more appealing to me then the pda's, stupid windows has flaws all over the place.
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maybe xda-developers isnt really the place for you then also about windows having flaws, you saying mac doesnt? lol

how to flash on a mac?
I just moved and can not find the cords for my PC so I am having to use my wifes ibook for the next month until we move into our house.
Has anyone had any sucess flashing on a mac. I know there are tool out there to run PC programs but thought that somebody would have writen a guide but can not find it searching... Thanks for reading

xixis said:
well, i for one am happy thats a closed system, no f*king arround so it wont get messed up. aslong it simply works its fine for me. and the thing itself is more appealing to me then the pda's, stupid windows has flaws all over the place.
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Hhaha.. it is like saying, "I'm happy that I do not have admins right to my PC, because I dont want to mess it", or "I'm happy that my car bonnet is locked so that I won't mess up the car". If you think you need to pay $$$$ to child-proof yourself from your own phone, go ahead. If you are on a budget, get yourself a Motorola MOTOFONE F3, it is close system.
ps: PPC phone works fine, it causes problems when people mess it up.

Ahhhhhhhhh, here people go again - Mac this, Windows that- it like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Ford Fiesta.
AFAIK most UK networks (at the moment) will not have the iPhone due to the price apple want for them £400+, lets see what happens at the time of Euro launch in late December of even early next year.
I certainly will not be purchasing one from the first edition even being a mac fan. My PPC works just fine with my Mac and my PC.

Its not about windows v mac. Its about why people can't admit that the iphone is crippled with poor features from day one. My Dopod D810 can perform every function available in the entire spectrum of mobile computing and in a fast reliable way over a 800kbs 3g hsdpa connection. Simultaneously.
I do about 250 mb of surfing a month on the phone and another 250 mb of surfing using my phone as a modem for my tablet. I don't think an iphone would be able to transfer 500 mb in a month even if I was willing to put up with the slow speed of non 3g networks.
I challenge any one to find a feature that the d810 can't perform. It is easy to find features lacking in the iphone because it has almost none. Apple are trying to sell a new software platform, and its the software that apple-ites are going to be paying $450usd on subsidy or $950USd outright for.
The iphone would have been a state of the art phone - 5 years ago.

Midget_1990 said:
maybe xda-developers isnt really the place for you then also about windows having flaws, you saying mac doesnt? lol
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It has less
But of course, Mac users get the best of both worlds. Currently I'm using an iMac 24" for scanning, and my Ameo is hooked up to ActiveSync under XP Pro SP2; I can see the ActiveSync window, explore the device, etc, whilst I am using Mac apps, seamlessly.
Parallels in Coherence mode means I don't need to switch screens, let alone put up with a smaller window, or reboot.
IMO Mac OS X is the BEST desktop OS, and part of the stability is due to the relatively limited range of hardware that Apple has to support - they know exactly what computer it will run on, and make sure it is stable. All this "building your own PC" malarky is fine, and made a lot of sense when Apple machines were lagging seriously in the hardware stakes (1998, and I'd argue just prior to the release of Intel Macs, especially the lower end stuff like the Mac Mini) and couldn't really use the Pre-Windows '95 argument that for a newbie, the system was easier to use.
However, I also rather like Windows Mobile. The lack of integration/support drives me mad; Missing Sync only goes so far (it can't even sync the Nickname field, FFS - and that's supported in WM5 AND Apple Address Book as a default, not custom, tag). I've always found it necessary to keep a PC around for a few small tasks:
ActiveSync, and applications which need a PC to run the installer.
Running tools that do things like creating a floppy from an image for an old computer (like STs, QLs, that sort of thing)
I theoretically still can't write floppies, but that needs an older PC anyway; most of the newer ones have hardware that is utterly useless for this purpose.
Other than that, Mac does it all, and if you go by "what's in the box" for a Mac system, you get much better software - like GarageBand, iMovie HD, etc. Basically for a Mac to be useful for me, all I need to do is add Adobe Creative Suite and I'm sorted. And of course, I don't need to muck about making the colour calibration work
As developers for WM, I'm sure the Mac is utterly useless to you anyway. Though many "developers" rather like the environment and tools Apple give you with every Mac system

OdeeanRDeathshead said:
I challenge any one to find a feature that the d810 can't perform. It is easy to find features lacking in the iphone because it has almost none. Apple are trying to sell a new software platform, and its the software that apple-ites are going to be paying $450usd on subsidy or $950USd outright for.
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Where are you getting those prices? Apple has stated repeatedly that the iPhone has a retail price. No subsidies. The retail price is $499 or something along those lines.
Personally, I will get an iPhone if it works well as a phone. As a PDA, it lacks a keyboard and 3G connectivity. My Ameo is better.

I Run OSX and Server 2003 on my PC so by no means am I a die-hard windows fan, but neither am i for Mac, they both have their perks and flaws. I do think the Iphone will be crap though xD

Midget_1990 said:
I Run OSX and Server 2003 on my PC so by no means am I a die-hard windows fan, but neither am i for Mac, they both have their perks and flaws. I do think the Iphone will be crap though xD
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I agree, for some reason it does not excite me. maybe with the next update it would be better. No question though I would buy one later in a year or two after I upgraded my MBP to the new magnetized (not one of those hook models) and an easily upgradeable hard drives and a better battery design. Maybe a brighter 2nd or 3rd gen led display with quad core intel processor with a huge SSD drives

i heard it on the last edition of mac break weekly. Download the podcast at twit.tv

It's a rumour.
Apple has, repeatedly, said two things about iPhone:
It will be $499 and $599
It does NOT adhere to the standard subsidy model. It's not an overpriced $500 N73 with massive discounting to the operator/kickbacks from the operator.
Therefore, AT&Ts contract terms will more reflect the demand for the iPhone.
It will probably not be available without a contract. Cingular/AT&T will be banking on this device to gain them subscribers through sheer demand. The European model may well be different, but since the current suggestions from firms like iSuppli is that the BOM for the iPhone runs to a tad under $240, the 50% margin already applying and Apple's established market position means that the most likely outcome in the UK will not be a tie in to a single operator, but rather, the operators and resellers (like Carphone Warehouse) will compete on subsidising their contracts in much the same way as they currently do - for example, if you want a rubbish phone from one of the many cuthroat resellers getting £200-500 kickbacks for each contract they provide, they will give you a PS3, or a Nintendo Wii, or an iPod... you get the idea.
The iPhone UK price will most likely be around £329-£449 given our horrific taxation (and the fact that our prices INCLUDE tax at 17.5%), looking at the difference in iPods costs US/UK, and the UK market iPhone will probably be offered unlocked by default as a premium product, with the networks/resellers clamouring to offer it on their tariffs. If they they apply the same marketing model, then the iPhone would cost most users around £99-199, but it depends on what the operators reckon they can get away with.
Bear in mind that the Ameo costs £640 off contract. The Advantage is about £700. When you get it ON contract, it costs £119-400ish depending on the deal you get thanks to the network subsidy - and the stores often have a bit they can use to further reduce the price; they appear to be getting cheaper as you would expect. T-Mobile is doing well; as a result of my getting an Ameo at least four of my small network of friends have either bought or intend to buy one, partially because T-Mobile's data plans are insanely good compared to other UK networks.
Suggesting that the 8MB, non-3G iPhone is going to cost nearly as much as the Advantage off contract is insane, and probably what is known as FUD. Apple are far from stupid about the consumer market, as the success of the iPod, the growing market share of the MacBook/Pro and iMac, and utter dominance of the online music market shows.

You sure put a lot of thought into this. I think it will be sold outright at apple shops for $950. Prove me wrong in a few weeks.

OdeeanRDeathshead said:
You sure put a lot of thought into this. I think it will be sold outright at apple shops for $950. Prove me wrong in a few weeks.
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Sure. $50 says that the iPhone will not be sold for $950 in Apple shops, or indeed, anywhere officially for that sort of money. eBay idiocy does not apply; stories of "an iPhone sold for $1500 on eBay" are not Apple's decision making or pricing.
Look at the iMac. Look at the MacBook.
How much is the MacBook? It's $1099. With dual-core CPUs, WiFi, Bluetooth, HD, 1GB RAM, 13.3" screen, DVD/CDRW drive.
An iMac? $999. For a 17", dual-core, etc...
An 80GB iPod is only $349.
So. If you REALLY believe that the iPhone will ever be sold, retail, for $950, then I'll be happy to take your money. However, I will have to decline if you ever tell me you have any plans for business, because you're clearly not thinking in terms of sound business models for Apple - and I'm thinking that the company with several billion dollars in the bank, no operating debt, stock at a record high, and increasing marketshare, is going to make the right choices - rather than a third-hand rumour from someone silly enough to believe it
And yes, if the iPhone DOES go on sale in the Apple store for $950, I'll give YOU your $50, and despair at the stupidity of Apple's marketing department after nearly six years of them actually getting it (spectaculalrly) right for once
Oh, and just to be absolutely sure, these are US$, in the US market we're talking. No popping up in 2009 saying "Hey, it's HK$950! in Asia!" *grin*.

Midget_1990 said:
I Run OSX and Server 2003 on my PC so by no means am I a die-hard windows fan, but neither am i for Mac, they both have their perks and flaws. I do think the Iphone will be crap though xD
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I don't think the iPhone will be crap, I just don't think it will be compelling to anyone aufait with HTC's products. For the N95 crowd, I'm sure it will be very exciting indeed, and with good reason, but WE know that these things can be done better.
Internet in my pocket? Pah! I was doing that with my Clié UX50 in 2004 "Blogging" on the road in Canada with the built in camera. And that was "backwards" tech, IMO, there were better solutions out there. The Ameo has proper internet browsing/full net experience in a mobile phone, and frankly, in terms of that useage it's hardly moved the game on from the Universal.
And just to balance out the Mac vs. PC thing a tad more, I'm getting a new computer in the office soon at least for a little while. Apple don't make anything like it.
Dell XPS M2010. It'll be absolutely ideal for running devices like the Hasselblad H31D "on the road" at a professional level, doing presentations, and of course, entertainment (hello, my very own 20" LCD in hotel rooms!).
Windows is a secondary concern, the hardware design is extremely compelling.

Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.

For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.

Update:
My Flytouch 3 is no more, at about 4 days old the charging battery exploded, melting the FT3 and scorching the computer desk.
I urge anyone thinking of buying one of the Ibex Flytouch 3's, or its clones (Superpad 2 or 3) - DON'T!

Fluffbutt said:
For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.
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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?

thebum2323 said:
Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?
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People are always trying to find ways of getting a similar item for cheaper prices - I know, I did!.

Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert

i own this and for what i use it for its actually not bad updates are often and like all android devices its getting better with each one!
mind you my phone is faster ha

I got banned from there because they didn't want anyone warned of the faulty batteries, they're the most fanatic people over their FT3's.
So you assume I did a whole lot of things and it's my fault it exploded. You can assume anything.
"mess around with your battery config," - ChinaGrabber tell you to go to that forum for help, and do what's posted there. Now I'M to blame for doing just that?
It got buried under kitty litter because the fumes from burnt lithium batteries are toxic.
Shame on me?? you make assumptions!
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Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert
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*Mod Edit* let's keep it clean and keep the name calling to a minimum.

Alright, everybody chill out. No name callings.
@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
@PassingExpert: A one hit wonder from you? While I can't agree with either of you, I'd cut down on the name calling, because you aren't going to make many friends with that.
As for the rest of this thread:
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@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
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What makes you think I feel any need to prove this to anyone here?
It happened. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to it happening and irrelevant to me..

my 32gb iBex Flytouch3 works perfectly. Would recommend iBex Flytouch3 (real FT3) to my friends.

I bought flytouch3 from taobao.com. It cost almost 250 USD.
It may be the most expensive one in taobao, but it works good.
It can standby at least 6 hrs, and the GPS works in Taiwan.
Market can show all apps including the charged apps.

I just bought one yesterday from chinagrabber, shame on me? From what I've gathered the information this is the best and most supported chinese tablet there is..

Yes another classic example of somebody not doing their homework before buying something and then blindly attacking it with a soldering iron and hacksaw.
I'm more than satisfied with mine, it's not the fastest piece of kit, but for €150 it's certainly worth the money if you have a good working knowledge of Android and now how to fix a few quirks.

If you read around the forums, there is support for all of them. I have yet to have found an issue that couldn't be remidied in one way shape or form. I bought mine for $150 US shipped. I'm no knocking Ibex. Just merely stating that their pad isn't the only option. Open minded-ness is what I'm getting at. I've heard a lot of bad things about ChinaGrabber's return policy's etc., and that left a bad taste in my mouth. I wanted an inexpensive pad with some support on the US side (I.e warranty issues). I know I could have purchased something else, but this was what I wanted.
Sent from a rooted SuperPAD clone with Android 2.2

I've now been playing with my FT3 couple of days and I'm very happy with it, with Tim5a rom everything works, Market (it shows paid apps if I buy them from my Android cellphone). GPS works well out of the box, it's fast, Youtube, Flash all working. Battery life is very good, I don't keep it on standby as it does eat the battery even without wifi off. If you've ever used a Android phone this feels like home and the performance is the same. Resistive screen just gets a little bit more to get used to compared to capacitive but it's really responsive. Videos play very nicely, only tried 720p but all worked without a single lag.

Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien

Maffien said:
Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.

Don't.
Market ONLY shows the free apps not to mention all the other problems (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). For YOUR OWN sake don't buy this piece. Really if you want an ANDROID tablet then save your money and buy a legitimate Android Tablet from a well known manufacturer. It's the WORST money I've ever spent in my life. PLEASE don't waste your time. And if you do and are satisfied with a cheap poor generic excuse for an android spending hours upon end of your life downloading and installing firmware, then more power to you, have fun. I just wish I would have saved my money than to have given it to scam artists or try to get help from those who need to help sale more CRAPWARE by saying its all volunteer. Really really real. (Now watch how I get called names and treated like dirt for posting this on a thread that is titled: Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.) It's crazy how easy it is to get caught up by weirdos at crappad tv who act like they are helping the world or something not following any of there own rules. Please DON'T be fooled by the posts that follow this saying how good it is. Believe me, it is not. Save a little more money even if its just 100 or 200 more. Get a LEGITIMATE ANDROID TABLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PassingExpert said:
Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
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Oh it's you PassingExpert, I saw your whole song and dance on xda-developers today, not surprized that everyone ignored you. First you troll around with your troll post, then god only know what else you did and then you troll. Then claim something about someone that is nothing but trolling.
Baring in mind you trolled. Then you trolled that someone said something somewhere else, so you couldn't show anything other than trolling, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.

Totally agree with you,mine is disco10 version,and use the tim5a rom very well.
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.
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Wanna buy but afraid

The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.

My Nexus7 has no problems at all and I love it. Its well worth the price I paid for the 16GB.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app

I'm from India and I'm also afraid about product quality. Here getting 8GB model for $250. I want to know, is nexus 7 supports USB on the go feature so that I can use pen drive for external storage? and what are cons you guys faced with your nexus 7 yet?

Guys, don't step out in the road, you have more chance of getting hit by a bus than you have of getting a bad N7!
The N7 works with all kinds of external storage but you need to root it first, there's good instructions on what to do on these forums when you need them.
/edit, just had a thought, those might not be very good odds in India

As someone who has received three units with screen lifting, I wouldn't caution you as strongly as you might expect me to.
That's the only really common defect, and in most cases it is not severe enough to affect usage. The last two I received have been minor cases of separation. The reason I won't accept this flaw is because of the possibility that it will worsen over time, but keep in mind that this is speculative.
My experience with the device has been overwhelmingly positive aside from this, and if the Nexus 7 is right for you then it may be worth purchasing even if you do get one with the kind of separation I've been dealing with. Although the warranty friendly fixes have been found to be temporary, if it bothers you that much then good old fashioned super glue will do the trick. Many who have gone through multiple returns have decided that they like the tablet enough to dispense with this RMA business and jimmy it down themselves.
Don't let anyone tell you that screen lifting is a rare thing, but it's not the end of the world. This is a great device even with the fault.

You can get your friend to check it for you and if its bad return it on the spot.
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Troute said:
Guys, don't step out in the road, you have more chance of getting hit by a bus than you have of getting a bad N7!
The N7 works with all kinds of external storage but you need to root it first, there's good instructions on what to do on these forums when you need them.
/edit, just had a thought, those might not be very good odds in India
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I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
And yea the price for 8GB Nexus 7 is best anyone can get in India right now. On ebay india it costs approx 320$ for 8GB N7.
So buying N7 8GB for 8GB is a great deal for me.

Is there any chance that by now there is an already free defects batch rolling out?
I remember when the HTC Sensation came out it had also multiple issues. I bought mine about 5 months later and had no issues at all. I cant do it here because either i buy it this month or i wont buy it at all

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@Dr. Sheldon take a look at the android development sub-section in the Nexus 7 forum. There are several methods of rooting the device, most of them requires little interactions with the device.
Also, the ones who have had defects are among the thousands who haven't encountered any problems, so your odds should be pretty good. Best luck to you mate.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

mazinya said:
The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
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Don't be afraid, that's what Apple want to to feel. That's where this whole myth of Nexus7 problems originate from...
The vast majority of Nexus7's are fine. You only hear about the ones with problems.. (or claimed problems. I suspect only 10% of those are genuine, the other 90% Apple viral marketing at work).

People here are saying there's a small amount of defective n7s but I'm on my third one. First 2 had dead pixels, and my current one has screen lift. Guess I have extremely bad luck

I got mine overseas and notice screen flickering and screen tear the first day.
I also cannot return it.
But I pop it open (easy enough) and tighten the screw, it seems to fix the screen tear.
Only notice the tear once yesterday after a whole week. And people on forum already has solution for flickering.
So I cannot settle if it is hardware or software related.
I think for the price of half an iPad, it is lighter and smaller.
So I can definitely deal with the small imperfection.
So go ahead and get it.

mazinya said:
The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
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The very vocal minority here may have problems, but the majority (the 99% lol) have no issues. If there was a global issue, I'm sure you'd hear about it on NBC/Fox/CrApple News/etc. I have my Nexus, no issues and I love the thing. Great device and no regrets!

Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
And yea the price for 8GB Nexus 7 is best anyone can get in India right now. On ebay india it costs approx 320$ for 8GB N7.
So buying N7 8GB for 8GB is a great deal for me.
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Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm from India and I'm also afraid about product quality. Here getting 8GB model for $250. I want to know, is nexus 7 supports USB on the go feature so that I can use pen drive for external storage? and what are cons you guys faced with your nexus 7 yet?
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Hi Dr. Sheldon
I have hours worth of videos on the Nexus 7. Showing OTG functionality(mouse/keyboard, remotes, usb hubs, controllers, camera connection and control), how to root, comparison, NFC in action, streaming your desktop screen, and more. My youtube channel is down below in the signature. But these are my perspective. There are allot of great videos others are publishing showing all the good and bad from different viewpoint. As a developer and hobby android developer, this is a great device. This is a great forum and community that will really unlock allot of potential in the Nexus 7, the most interesting sub-forum in my opinion is the Nexus 7 Developer.
For rooting Nexus 7, this is a very comprehensive video that was put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrZaU5i2x4w&hd=1
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Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
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You need to do some reading in the forums. All of the questions you have posed have been covered many times in other threads.
There are whole threads on Rooting, OTG, Shipping, Problems etc...
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mazinya said:
Is there any chance that by now there is an already free defects batch rolling out?
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There is no such thing. There will always be a number of defective devices for various reasons when things are mass produced. The number of issues you are seeing in the forum is skewed as most people who have no issues, rarely use forums or post about their experiences.
I've now touched and used 5 brand new 16gb Nexus 7's out of the box and they were all fine. The first was in the first initial pre-launch batches with the latest being 3 days ago. I know that others have had issues but that is the experience that I've been seeing.

I got my 2nd one today and it has screen lift and burn in.
I'm getting a refund.
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I'm from india as well and wanted to buy one for myself...but decided against it. N7 is cheap hardware & build quality is poor...I might buy Microsoft Surface instead...might want to check it out...
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Just bought it like 20 min ago and i love it

I just got mine today and I love it. I have zero issues. I live in Canada though
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Why is it that every time a new product comes out...

early adopters complain about issues and treat it like it a huge surprise?
You bought the first run on purpose. I have yet to see a piece of electronics that didn't have some kind of issue at launch. The iPhone 4, Galaxy S, G2...pretty much every piece of hardware I have followed the launch of has had issues at launch.
I've taken the stand that I am going to wait at least a month before I buy a new product. Usually longer. I also prefer to buy pre-owned so I can save money and also make sure the thing works.
So why all the surprise? Is it that people just like drama or are they really that ignorant?

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early adopters complain about issues and treat it like it a huge surprise?
You bought the first run on purpose. I have yet to see a piece of electronics that didn't have some kind of issue at launch. The iPhone 4, Galaxy S, G2...pretty much every piece of hardware I have followed the launch of has had issues at launch.
I've taken the stand that I am going to wait at least a month before I buy a new product. Usually longer. I also prefer to buy pre-owned so I can save money and also make sure the thing works.
So why all the surprise? Is it that people just like drama or are they really that ignorant?
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+1 :good:

You make it sound like the only people that own the product are the ones here complaining. I'm willing to bet they are a small fraction of the owners. Besides, the true early adopters know that there will be issues, and quietly get them resolved without making a stink. My thoughts are the ones complaining are the ones that only follow the big tech announcements and see the next "must have" product and aren't true "early adopters".

tl;dr whining about whiners

Where do you expect a post on XDA like this to go? I would suggest you ask a mod to close this thread as it has no relevant value (other than starting flame wars).

So only threads complaining about problems unnecessarily are allowed?
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early adopters complain about issues and treat it like it a huge surprise?
You bought the first run on purpose. I have yet to see a piece of electronics that didn't have some kind of issue at launch. The iPhone 4, Galaxy S, G2...pretty much every piece of hardware I have followed the launch of has had issues at launch.
I've taken the stand that I am going to wait at least a month before I buy a new product. Usually longer. I also prefer to buy pre-owned so I can save money and also make sure the thing works.
So why all the surprise? Is it that people just like drama or are they really that ignorant?
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because you touch yourself at night.
ATOT :highfive:

The small minority with problems will always be the vocal majority.

rudeguy said:
early adopters complain about issues and treat it like it a huge surprise?
You bought the first run on purpose. I have yet to see a piece of electronics that didn't have some kind of issue at launch. The iPhone 4, Galaxy S, G2...pretty much every piece of hardware I have followed the launch of has had issues at launch.
I've taken the stand that I am going to wait at least a month before I buy a new product. Usually longer. I also prefer to buy pre-owned so I can save money and also make sure the thing works.
So why all the surprise? Is it that people just like drama or are they really that ignorant?
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I waited until recently to grab one and I still got a dud. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Nexus 7 and still highly recommend it to people. What burns me is when issues aren't fixed, which seems to be a growing trend with ASUS right now. If there's an issue and it's fixed, I'm as happy as a clam. Refusal to fix with a 170 dollar quote from ASUS to fix it? Now that's just bad.

So if I buy a car that's a first production run and it fails on my while driving it's to be expected? I don't think that's acceptable. But hey maybe I am just a crazy person who expects things to work.
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Bigjim1488 said:
So if I buy a car that's a first production run and it fails on my while driving it's to be expected? I don't think that's acceptable. But hey maybe I am just a crazy person who expects things to work.
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But are you dropping 20 grand on a phone? I doubt it. Phones usually aren't used for more than a year or two before the owner decides to upgrade. A car is usually used 5-10+ years. You can't expect the quality control from a car to be the same or even close to the same as for a mobile device.
Now I agree, I also want things to work but no way will the company be able to iron out all the problems before release.

Its not that we expect products to be problem free, but they should be free of *major* problems and/or the mfg should fix these issues. That's not what I'm seeing with the latest Asus products though...
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But are you dropping 20 grand on a phone? I doubt it. Phones usually aren't used for more than a year or two before the owner decides to upgrade. A car is usually used 5-10+ years. You can't expect the quality control from a car to be the same or even close to the same as for a mobile device.
Now I agree, I also want things to work but no way will the company be able to iron out all the problems before release.
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I agree. Plus your nexus 7 isn't going to kill you if something breaks or goes wrong. Cars are held to a different standard and are tested to make sure they are safe for people.

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Where do you expect a post on XDA like this to go? I would suggest you ask a mod to close this thread as it has no relevant value (other than starting flame wars).
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So only threads complaining about problems unnecessarily are allowed?
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Seems like a reasonable thing to discuss in the general section. Your reply seems kind of rude.

I guess that, for me at least, I don't consider myself a beta tester. If I buy a product, be it first run or 10 years later, I expect it to work like it is supposed to work. Anything less is not acceptable in my view. If you charge me money for a product, then I demand/feel entitled/whatever to have that product live up to it's claims. Now, if you want me to be a beta tester for your product, by all means, you can give me a non-polished product...but then the product needs to be free and if you want more than complaints, be prepared to pay me an hourly rate for my time as well.
Luckily I seem to have incredible luck and I've only had one product be defective out of all the mobile devices I've owned.

Boohooo
With any rather is be a new car a cell phone or tablet.. or even a door knob.. You will here from 1 of maybe a few hundred that are totally satisfied.. When people have issues now days they head online. IF this were a car forum you would hear complaints .well maybe even about your car. that you might love and have no issues..
people witeh issues wanna hear from others with similar issues. If nothing more then to know they are not alone . When people ban together especially a place like here to let it be known there are MAJOR issues with a product the manufacture takes notice. YES even ASUS with there lack of ability to produce a good product . 4 Years ago i would have stood behind them. NO MORE well i just hope they get the act together before they get hit with many class action suits. There is a huge common problem with the nexus..
NO The problem is not performance or function . its BUILD QUALITY a crying shame on such a well thought out product. with very poor Quality testing
With all that said XDA in the general section under the correct device . Doing so respectfully is the CORRECT Place for these type of post.. Development is not just software its built and design quality. As we have seen several post about people fixing there own device .
As far as this tablet.. THERE should be a buffer space between the trim piece and the glass. Glass and plastic expands and contracts diffident This will likely cause alot of glass breaking in the future.. Mine broke 30 minutes after purchase in my hand with no drop no over exertion . Yes these issues are a exception to most peoples experience.. But they still happen to often..
my two Cents...

Many threads are there to report problems or see if others have the same problem to see if there is a common factor or fix, not always just to complain.

A topic complaining about complaining, I find it easier not to click on topics that do not appeal to me.......Or I just thought of a new topic to make
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BrianDigital said:
A topic complaining about complaining, I find it easier not to click on topics that do not appeal to me.......Or I just thought of a new topic to make
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So your saying make a new thread about threads complaining about people who are are posting about issues with there Device CLEAVER.
NOT..!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh:

People want to pay $100 bucks and have a complaint about everything that is wrong with something. It reminds me of those people who buy 40 inch Coby TV's and then complain and tell the world about how bad Coby is and why it sucks..

REVIEW Zip Mini Touch-n-go w/ video slideshow

Today we’re looking at the Zip Mini Touch-n-go by The Joy Factory. Here's a link to the review with all links to buy product and accessories
The Zip Mini is a charging station that uses magnetic “zip tail” plugs to inductively charge your devices without bulky cases or any modification to your phone or tablet. Many have wanted the functionality of Apple's Magsafe laptop charging magnetic adapter in Android tablets and smartphones for years. For whatever reason though, nobody has been brave enough/smart enough to make the jump yet. Is the Zip Mini the answer to our prayers? Read on...
Click here to see a SUPER FUN video slideshow of the Zip Mini Touch-n-go
Main advantage: mimics wireless charging's ease without modification, outputs 2.1amps to charge a tablet or galaxy note 2, relatively cheap
Main concern: can't charge other device's if charging a tablet, short cord length, can disconnect at times
Unique features: magnetic charging attaches without effort and just works
We've reached a point with smartphone's where wants become reality everyday. Do you want to talk to your phone and tell it to remind you to meet Joey for coffee on Tuesday? Okay. Do you want to have your phone unlock your front door without even removing it from your pocket? Sure thing. Do you want your phone to just be charged without any effort from you? Not so fast buddy!
The promise of true wireless charging is still struggling to be. Companies fight silently in a cold war deciding who will be the true wireless charging standard for years to come. Of course Apple will have to be different and even after a standard is declared. They'll come out with AppleCharge wireless accessories that they'll slightly change every six months. The wanting masses will happily pay $45 a pop for a special AppleCharge to AppleCharge S adapter for each and everyone of their accessories. The Android world has it's own version of Apple's dirty tricks in the form of Carriers vs. manufacturers. Verizon will do things like intentionally disable wireless charging on the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 so that they can sell more of their DROID branded phones that have Qi wireless built in. The point is, you're a bit out of luck at this point. Though there are working versions of wireless power, there will be so many changes coming up that most every purchase you make will be a paperweight within a couple of years. How can you get some of the functionality of wireless charging without opting in to the losing endeavor of Apple vs. Everyone vs. your wallet? The Zip Mini is a start.
The Zip Mini is a small disk a little bigger than a hockey puck. The top shows a circular indicator light and four “dimples” with tiny metal contact points. These each accept a magnetic power disk on a 2” cable that then connects to your micro or mini usb device as well as any apple product. A single micro usb input around back accepts a power adapter that will supply enough juice to charge up to 4 devices. The important distinction though is “UP TO.” The UP TO goes out the window if you're charging an iPad or other tablet that draws 2.1amps of power. Most smartphones will allow you to charge two at once. Apple iPod’s and other low energy devices can utilize the full four charging ports at once but don't count on that every time.
If you're careful about your devices, this is a great system. If you know what will work and what won't after careful trial and error, this can be a reliable charging option. If you don't have the patience to adapt yourself to this way of charging, then move on instead of bad mouthing something you didn't give a real chance to. The charging cables, called “zip tails” are very short, which is a double edged sword. Short enough to possibly leave them attached to your phone throughout the day (but that probably isn't practical because they'd get snagged and break pretty quickly) but too short to use your phone while it's charging without disconnecting the power. The magnets hold well enough but I wouldn't mind a little more strength. I see an ideal use for the zip mini that unfortunately joy factory hasn't planned for, wall mounting. For this to have the best chance to succeed, neither device can move or else you'll risk disconnecting the cable without knowing it and reaching for a dead phone in the morning. Since Joy Factory didn't include mounting holes on the bottom, I plan to use Velcro to attach the disk to the wall near a wall mounted cradle. With the proper spacing and careful mounting of both the Zip mini and my wall cradle I'll have the zip as it should work. All I will need to do is place the phone in the cradle and the magnet will automatically find the charger. No chance of dislodging overnight and truly simple usage from day to day.
I only wish that the charging ports were a little more sunken in or molded to allow the charging disks to only connect in one way. As it stands, the magnets find the charger about 90% of the time. The other times it can be slightly off-centered or partially connected which means no juice. No juice means no fun.
Thank you again to The Joy Factory for supplying their product for review.
Alternatives: None that I've seen that function the same
What's in the box: carrying pouch, Zip Mini charging disk, power adapter, micro usb and apple 30 pin “zip tails”, Lightning to micro USB adapter for iPhone 5
How much:
Manufacturer - $49.95
Amazon - $36.99
Google pricing
Additional Zip Tails – depends on tip. Anywhere from $10.99 to $15.99
Is it worth buying: If you have the patience to learn how to approach this it can be a very convenient and usable charging solution.
If you haven’t already, click here to see a video slideshow of the Zip Mini Touch N Go
ENJOY YOUR GADGETS!

I guess I just don't understand this product, what's is the point?
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LittleRedDot said:
I guess I just don't understand this product, what's is the point?
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It has to be a joke this literally doors nothing.
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joshm.1219 said:
It has to be a joke this literally doors nothing.
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Yeh, I don't see the point either. Its as though they didn't know if they should go wireless or cabled, so instead they went half and half.

I wrote up 2 nice counter reviews but it would let me post them, just said I didn't have authorization to post. Strange, almost as strange as this product.
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Doesn't make much sense for a phone to be sure, but I've actually started using it with a couple of tablets that I keep around the house. Don't mind having the cable attached always because they stay in the house for gentle use. Nice to be able to just hover over and more often than not it catches in the right spot and charges faithfully. Almost kind of not quite wireless

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Doesn't make much sense for a phone to be sure, but I've actually started using it with a couple of tablets that I keep around the house. Don't mind having the cable attached always because they stay in the house for gentle use. Nice to be able to just hover over and more often than not it catches in the right spot and charges faithfully. Almost kind of not quite wireless
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You're not seriously saying that this is better or easier that just plugging the phone/tablet into the wall? And this isn't almost kind of not wireless anything, it Is Wired, period. The only advantage I can see is if you had just lost your eyesight and had not learned how to feel a plug into a socket, it would be nice to be able to "zip" the magnetic wire to the charger. But for anyone who can see this is an expensive extra step.
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You're not seriously saying that this is better or easier that just plugging the phone/tablet into the wall? And this isn't almost kind of not wireless anything, it Is Wired, period. The only advantage I can see is if you had just lost your eyesight and had not learned how to feel a plug into a socket, it would be nice to be able to "zip" the magnetic wire to the charger. But for anyone who can see this is an expensive extra step.
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The benefit is less wear and tear on the micro USB slot. That is the main reason that I want wireless charging to start. Constant plugging and unplugging and manufacturers design the micro USB slot to fail because most will be bullied at the store and just upgrade.
Again, I'm not saying it's for everyone, the decreased wear and tear is worth it in my eyes. A failed micro USB slot killed my HP touchpad, had I been using this device, that might have been prevented or at the very least delayed.
Of course, if I had my druthers Verizon wouldn't be a group of evil so and so's that intentionally covered up functioning wireless charging hardware in their version of the Note 2. They did do that though, so we continue to search for something that might help to fill the void without having to modify the phone and void warranty replacements.

That's the silliest thing I've heard. You still have to plug this zip thingy into your usb. Are you telling me that you walk around all day with this zip thing hanging off your phone? And for the price of this system I would rather take the chance that my usb fails and have the phone replaced under warranty, and that's assuming your usb would even fail and from what I've been reading sammy sorted out this issue with the note 2.
I know it sucks that Verizon took away hassle free wireless charging, but you can't honestly tell us that this is a step in the right direction?
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That's the silliest thing I've heard. You still have to plug this zip thingy into your usb. Are you telling me that you walk around all day with this zip thing hanging off your phone? And for the price of this system I would rather take the chance that my usb fails and have the phone replaced under warranty, and that's assuming your usb would even fail and from what I've been reading sammy sorted out this issue with the note 2.
I know it sucks that Verizon took away hassle free wireless charging, but you can't honestly tell us that this is a step in the right direction?
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I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing. I said it's impractical for phones. Makes sense for my tablets that I keep around the house. HP touchpad I mentioned is specifically no longer being made which means no replacement.
I don't work for this company though, I feel we're spending too much time talking about the product. Take it or leave it. Let's get on with our lives.

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I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing. I said it's impractical for phones. Makes sense for my tabletsI keep around thoe house. HP touchpad I mentioned is specifically no longer being made which means no replacement.
I don't work for this company though, I feel we're spending too much time talking about the product. Take it or leave it. Let's get on with our lives.
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If it's impractical for phones (I agree), why are you posting it in a phone thread? Kind of a contradiction, don't you think? And for the record, that was the most annoying video slideshow I've ever seen because of the terrible music. Zippity do dah? Really....
PS: If you post a long review thread about a product, the whole point is to talk about it. What else would you be talking about? I'm sorry, but you really make no sense, much like what this thread is doing in the Note 2 section (because the Note 2 is a phone).

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The benefit is less wear and tear on the micro USB slot. That is the main reason that I want wireless charging to start. Constant plugging and unplugging and manufacturers design the micro USB slot to fail because most will be bullied at the store and just upgrade.
Again, I'm not saying it's for everyone, the decreased wear and tear is worth it in my eyes. A failed micro USB slot killed my HP touchpad, had I been using this device, that might have been prevented or at the very least delayed.
Of course, if I had my druthers Verizon wouldn't be a group of evil so and so's that intentionally covered up functioning wireless charging hardware in their version of the Note 2. They did do that though, so we continue to search for something that might help to fill the void without having to modify the phone and void warranty replacements.
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I mean there's a lot bull in this post other people have pointed out, but I will mention if you're that anal about the condition of your micro usb port we have replaceable batteries. I can count on my hands the number of times I actually plugged this phone in.
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I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing. I said it's impractical for phones. Makes sense for my tablets that I keep around the house. HP touchpad I mentioned is specifically no longer being made which means no replacement.
I don't work for this company though, I feel we're spending too much time talking about the product. Take it or leave it. Let's get on with our lives.
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Sorry Phil, but you asked for it I just visited your tech review column in Examiner from your link, and from one reviewer (you can check out all my work from the last 5-6 months in my signature link) to another - the difference of posting in online newspaper/magazine versus a forum with 5+ million subscribers is that you get an instant feedback and opinions of the users. People don't just read a column, but take every post as a thread to open a discussion, to express their opinion, and to "talk about the product". Don't take it personally. You did make a valid point of how you used it in your case with HP tablet. For sure it fails with Note 2 or any other smart phone, and perhaps your review has a place in here to stir people with Note 2 away from this product
I do have to agree about being upset with VZW handicapping N2 by eliminating wireless charging, and I was happy they brought it back in S4 (in my S4 review I specifically pointed that out).
Also, as a comment about slideshow. I noticed you do that with every review, which is probably easier than actual YT video. I guess it's just your signature style, just like I take a ton of pictures with every review I do. I post a detailed write-ups and embed a lot of pictures. Some people hate reading and just need cliff notes with a few bullet points, others skip straight to the pictures. Whatever their preference, I respect that and try to make everyone happy As part of instant feedback to your review people are not digging it because they expect a glorious video with lots of talking and hands on test. Again, don't take it in defensive way, that's just a feedback from our readers. Oh, and I'm sure Opasha meant in his comment that your music was "too happy" for his taste
I think all this feedback is great, and if I were you I would forward this link directly to a company. That's what I do with all my reviews. Vendors need to know what real customers think about their product. Otherwise they will never improve.

@vectron: He should change the annoying music to something really simple or at least not as annoying, and people will take his slideshow more seriously. I mean that on a productive/constructive level. I made no comments on his review skills or the pictures. Those are all excellent. He just needs to kind of get a clue or wake up a little if he wants to move forward with his life as he so put it.
also, to add to why the music is actually annoying, look at the comment in his other thread. truthfully, no one, especially any company/vendor will take him seriously because of it:
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Man, please take this as useful constructive advice. Ditch that music that seems to be your trademark.
It's awful and annoying. 10 seconds in on both of your videos and I'm rushing to close the window.
The product isn't getting seen if I'm closing the window because of the 'cute' music.
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Not to mention the Web page, review write up, and video say the exact same things in the exact same way. I watched the video thinking I would gain more insight into the product only to have been hit in the face with the exact same words as I had already read twice.
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I would never buy this for my Note 2, but I might CONSIDER it for my Asus Infinity. Only way I'd by this for my Infinity though is if it was around $20-25, and I wouldn't pay a penny more! Even with a $20 price tag, I honestly still don't believe I would purchase one. I'm not doubting that your TouchPad's charging port failed, but in my 15 years of owning mobile phones I've never had a charging port fail in any way. With that in mind, I really don't see why I'd ever purchase one of these.....
Anyway, thanks for sharing this product with the community. Helps us all decide if we do or do not like/want a product.
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I appreciate your words Vectron.
For you and everyone else, rather than choose what I think you will and won't like, I'd rather just be able to post anything up here as long as it is compatible with the Note 2. That way you can have a reference point in your head. I have no stake in your love of the product. If you want to say it's a terrible product, I applaud your personal take on it. I just want to present information without telling you what to like and dislike. If it fits your need than I'm happy I could show you a little closer look then you might of seen otherwise. If it's not for you, you can just let it be buried on the site and I'll post another review soon of a product that hopefully suits you more fully. I really am just trying to offer information and sometimes being able to now that this product isn't for you is a useful thing to know.
Regarding the same info posted, I figure some people will look here, some on the site, etc. I post the info here for those that want to just read and go. I post the link to the video for those that want to see the pictures and be done with it. I post the link to the site because I've already hyperlinked all of the necessary pages and info within that and it's a pain to redo it on the forum as well when the work was already done there. My hope is that you'll decide which one suits you best and then use that approach from now on. If the forum post is enough than use just that please.
I appreciate all of the constructive criticism. It's nice of you all to take the time out of your day to help me do a better job of showing you these products. I read and consider everything that you say.
The music in the videos... I'll repost what I said in the other thread.
The opening with the choir type voices is from an everclear song from the album so much for the afterglow.
Otherwise, for every product reviewed, I try to pick a song that has something to do with the product or it's name. It's just a fun little touch. So for the samDOCK review the song is hickory dickory DOCK, which is a child's nursery rhyme. It's just a goofy little added touch and you can always mute and just look at the pictures if the music is bugging you. I was this close to doing a death metal cover of hickory dickory dock but I couldn't find a clear enough recording.
This review was for the Zip Mini and I did the song "Zipity do dah" I always try to find a violin or guitar cover that is more subtle but for some it's difficult.
I reviewed a wireless charging dock the other day and I used the song, "I've got no strings" from Pinocchio. "I've got no strings, to hold me down" no wires, wireless charging, you get it. Just a fun little touch.
They aren't always kids songs.

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I agree. Doesn't seem very useful or practical...