To root or not to root - Nexus 7 General

Does anyone understand or have any more information about the DRM restrictions if you root your device.
Are the DRM restrictions built into some apps or into Android itself? It would be terrible to pay for content and then to loose access to it, because someone uses some intelligence' by rooting their device.
If I root my Nexus 7, will I be prevented from accessing the material which i've purchased.
Is there a workaround for this ?
I saw a comment from a 'rootKepper' type app which summons this up well :
"Vote with your dollars: Don't accept being a customer of companies restricting your freedom with defective and and inefficient technical measures."
Cheers

I've rooted (but still on stock) and not have come across any apps that have restricted my access of using them because I was rooted. If worse comes to worse you can just unroot your device to use the app.
What would be sweet though is if you can sorta "hide" root and then make it only visible for a specific app that you want to use that uses root access.

jonnyg1097 said:
I've rooted (but still on stock) and not have come across any apps that have restricted my access of using them because I was rooted. If worse comes to worse you can just unroot your device to use the app.
What would be sweet though is if you can sorta "hide" root and then make it only visible for a specific app that you want to use that uses root access.
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Cool thanks for sharing your experience. I feel motivated to give it a go.

I've never had the need to "hide" root, but I'm pretty sure that Voodoo OTA Rootkeper offers this exact functionality.

nyijedi said:
I've never had the need to "hide" root, but I'm pretty sure that Voodoo OTA Rootkeper offers this exact functionality.
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Oh neither have I but now that I am thinking about it, I remember CynogenMod having a feature once upon a time (I havent flashed a rom of theirs in a while so I dont know if they still have it) but they were able to turn root off and on in the settings I guess maybe for situations like this.

Never faced any DRM issue on any unrooted device. Both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 are rooted and never faced any problem. Reason? Because this problem does not exist. I remember Google Play movies used to complain about rooted device and it does not play movie on rooted device but it has changed since version 2.09c and we are on version 2.21 now. Google has officially stopped caring about root and now they rather support the root and hacking.
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root to get the washed out screen gone
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I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
I think the only thing that you won't be able to do is rent movies with a rooted phone. Doesn't it block you if your rooted?
Also sharp2G, what did you use to change the screen? Trinity app?

player911 said:
I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
I think the only thing that you won't be able to do is rent movies with a rooted phone. Doesn't it block you if your rooted?
Also sharp2G, what did you use to change the screen? Trinity app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818278

saadi703 said:
Never faced any DRM issue on any unrooted device. Both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 are rooted and never faced any problem. Reason? Because this problem does not exist. I remember Google Play movies used to complain about rooted device and it does not play movie on rooted device but it has changed since version 2.09c and we are on version 2.21 now. Google has officially stopped caring about root and now they rather support the root and hacking.
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This. I've had 5 rooted devices over the course of three years and six Android versions (2.2 to 4.2) and I've only encountered one app that I can remember (Google play movies) that didn't work with root.

sharp2G said:
root to get the washed out screen gone
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Me too. It is awesome work done by the Dev. I can't thank him enough. It was one of major turn offs whenever I use the device. Now it works and looks awesome without much hit to the battery.
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brando56894 said:
This. I've had 5 rooted devices over the course of three years and six Android versions (2.2 to 4.2) and I've only encountered one app that I can remember (Google play movies) that didn't work with root.
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Now it works
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player911 said:
I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
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Actually. You don't need to be rooted to backup app data anymore.
The latest SDK from Google allows you to use a backup command to backup your app data and settings as well as restore them. No root required. It will even encrypt your backup as well if you want.
I for one am glad to see Google implementing this feature. It's about time.

dellenrules said:
Actually. You don't need to be rooted to backup app data anymore.
The latest SDK from Google allows you to use a backup command to backup your app data and settings as well as restore them. No root required. It will even encrypt your backup as well if you want.
I for one am glad to see Google implementing this feature. It's about time.
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Could you point me to instructions for this? Thanks!
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I rooted but refuse to change ROMs. Stock ROM is excellent.
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tribestros said:
I rooted but refuse to change ROMs. Stock ROM is excellent.
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Just curious as to why root then? I too love stock JB but it feels so weird to me to not be rooted. I feel like stock has everything I need though. Just wondering what things you needed to be root for if your running the stock ROM. I'd be interested!
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TheIowaKid said:
Just curious as to why root then? I too love stock JB but it feels so weird to me to not be rooted. I feel like stock has everything I need though. Just wondering what things you needed to be root for if your running the stock ROM. I'd be interested!
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Titanium Backup, USB OTG, changing to tablet UI, etc.

Root!
Root! It has great expansion options for your tablet. When you root, try using ModaCo's ROM and see how little things change. When you are done using and learn a little more about rooting and the abilities that it enforces you to use, switch over to moles Parandroid ROM. Its great and requires a little bit more expertise in the rooting world, but before you know it you will be an expert!
Cheers,
Vanka

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but Skype did give me some sort of a message about not running on modified versions of android, but it worked anyway. Running stock ROM, trinity kernel in tablet ui.
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What does tablet ui mean ? Is it about changing the screen density to a certain setting or is there more to it ?

saadi703 said:
Me too. It is awesome work done by the Dev. I can't thank him enough. It was one of major turn offs whenever I use the device. Now it works and looks awesome without much hit to the battery.
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Now it works
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Could you please point me to the thread for this rom or rooted app?
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Removing system apps: cannot root

I have recently Restored my N1 from an ICS ROM and am back on Gingerbread 2.3.6.
I am wanting to remove some system apps but I cannot for the life of me find out how to root the N1.
Much googling has lead me to dead ends and dead links and I feel I am missing something really obvious that everyone else but me knows.
The guides I have found on rooting all appear to involve custom ROMs which I don't want at the moment.
The bootloader is still unlocked and I know at some point in the past I did have the device rooted on gingerbread but I can't remember how?
try www.unlockroot.com
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Is that a trusted source?
Yes It is.
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Yep, that worked
Thanks.
If I may be so bold... what would be the best app to use to actually remove the system apps?
I have used one in the past but found that when I removed anything it would shut off the nexus completely and not actually remove anything.
use titanium backup. it would be safe to hv a backup via a custom recovery, before removing system apps...
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@shaneydroid.
if you have got solutions to your questions, pls change the thread title to [solved]
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Are you rooting?

After rooting my previous devices (HTC Desire & Galaxy Nexus) I'm actually tempted to not root this one. The one reason for this is Sky Go not working on rooted devices.
Will you be rooting your Nexus 4 on arrival or holding back this time?
Hope to root first thing, install Titanium Backup and restore apps.
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ziggy34 said:
Hope to root first thing, install Titanium Backup and restore apps.
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I've searched but I've never gotten a concrete answer I feel comfortable with.
I'd like to do this but I just want to install my user apps and the data for those apps only. When I click the apps with data option I feel it's replacing system data?
Yes my galaxy s3 is rooted.
Oh you meant nexus 4?
Will root as soon as it arrives (whenever that will be)
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jmejiaa said:
I've searched but I've never gotten a concrete answer I feel comfortable with.
I'd like to do this but I just want to install my user apps and the data for those apps only. When I click the apps with data option I feel it's replacing system data?
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Very unlikely, unless you have an app that stores its data in system folders
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Yes, unlocked bootloader ready for CWM Recovery image so I can root - not bothered about mucking about with bootloader. It can wait.
I'm going to atleast unlock the bootloader first so I don't lose everything again after setting it up. get that factory wipe out of the way.
i thought about it, coming from a rooted N7 and rooted gNex, i'm not gonna root this one. for now anyway lol
Will unlock upon receiving the device.
Once CWM gets updated to support Nexus 4, I'll install it and then flash Superuser and all that.
Heck, yes ! Titanium Backup is a must for me, and worth rooting just for that.
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biggad said:
After rooting my previous devices (HTC Desire & Galaxy Nexus) I'm actually tempted to not root this one. The one reason for this is Sky Go not working on rooted devices.
Will you be rooting your Nexus 4 on arrival or holding back this time?
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ive had a HTC desire. LG o2x, GS2 &GS3, this will be the first android phone that i wont root. Android has matured enough now that the only real reason to root is to get updates quicker, which with these nexus phones we not have to do. I got fed up off apps not working because of root access sky go, barclays, ping it etc
If rooting is the only way to remove Chrome and hack in the AOSP browser apk with flash support. You bet your ass that will be the first thing I'll be doing.

NEW TO N7 or Tablet WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO ROOT N7

I'm new for n7 or tablet so xda community What is the benefit to root nexus 7?? Because I know to root my phone benefit like WiFi tether, titanium back up, root explorer and so on... For what use i root? Don't tell me about flash OK ng ROMs because I usually flash my galaxy phone and I enjoy flashing ROMs.
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You seem to already know about rooting and flashing ROMs so in a way, you have already answered your own question.
You get the same benefits as you would on a phone.
One advantage would be to get rid of pesky ads by means of AdFree or AdAway, for which you need root access. You already know the rest.
Cheers!
AdAway, Change Host name, Droid Wall, ES File Explorer, Rom Manager, Titanium Backup, etc...
And if you root your device you can plug in USB memory sticks and they mount and become browsable.
This means you can watch movies and stuff from a memory stick without using up your device memory.
All you need is an app like Stick Mount that is available from Play.
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All of the above plus its makes random strangers think you're cool, enables a secret, hidden 'fire breathing unicorn' mode and helps reduce limescale buildup.
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I rooted so I can use PPP Widget which allows me to use my 3G modem with nexus (with OTG cable). Then you can customize your N7, i.e. change boot animation, or you can integrate updated system apps in ROM (freeing storage memory) or clean the system with SD Maid. Also, you can flash custom recovery and then flash custom ROMs. Backup your apps/settings with Titanium Bakckup.
That's awesome to use 3g madam with otg cable than men
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Ya I know about root with my original evo phone but I never had a tablet that's why I want to know root benefit on tablet like N7 with Google updated
it's cool app adfree . thank you
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d4v3w said:
And if you root your device you can plug in USB memory sticks and they mount and become browsable.
This means you can watch movies and stuff from a memory stick without using up your device memory.
All you need is an app like Stick Mount that is available from Play.
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You can already do this without rooting. I wish people would quit posting that you need root to do this.
You can theme your rom if you flash a custom rom like cm or aokp.
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Safest way to root and back up nexus 7

Any tips on the safest easiest way to root my nexus 7 and also backup everything on it to windows XP
Thanks.
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Look up an app called carbon. It will allow you to backup apps from you pre rooted device. Plus, simply plug in your device and backup anything of interest like photos and downloads or music. Then root in your preferred method (wugs root tool in the nexus 7 android development stickies is quite easy). This process will unlock your bootloader (which will wipe your device back to factory state) install a rooted boot.img and custom recovery, and even take care of installing superuser into the stock rom. Once done there, you can then perform any backups within the device itself via titanium backup for user apps (system apps can cause issues). Also you can use your new custom recovery to create a full system backup called a nandroid backup (that can later be stored off device for safety of you like.
Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
CFRTim said:
Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
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Best tool to get it done, it walks you thru it
Just used it last night. Was a breeze abd easy.
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Another vote f or Wug's NRT. Too easy.
Fire it up, backup, unlock, root, and restore.
Wug's toolkit was awesome for me as well
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Never mind this post
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hey guys im about to get my N7 in a few days (still shipping) planning on using wugs tool as well.
im planning on installing smoothmod right after is it possible doing these together as a brand new never before used device? and how? im so noob xD
MxZeal said:
hey guys im about to get my N7 in a few days (still shipping) planning on using wugs tool as well.
im planning on installing smoothmod right after is it possible doing these together as a brand new never before used device? and how? im so noob xD
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Yes it is possible. First unlock your bootloader, then root it using wugs toolkit.
MxZeal said:
hey guys im about to get my N7 in a few days (still shipping) planning on using wugs tool as well.
im planning on installing smoothmod right after is it possible doing these together as a brand new never before used device? and how? im so noob xD
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It would be better to do it right when you get it before you install apps and save data in it.
Nexus Toolkit works great, too. I haven't tried Wugs, but I'm gonna give it a try another time when I root someone else's N7.
I am backup my System image via TWRP and OTG too an external hd.
My internal Files I am also backup via OTG: I am use rsync. Using the adb backup method is also possible, but for me it is very slow and a bit insecure I think... I trust TWRP.
Thanks everyone. Still deciding if I'm gonna do it or not.
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Thanks everyone. Still deciding if I'm gonna do it or not.
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Just unlock your bootloader if anything. That's all I did. The Nexus 7 is not preloaded with useless bloatware, so I didn't feel the need to root, and proceed any further. I even got the OTG cable to work on stock ROM, and I don't really care about any custom ROMs.
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Ad Away not blocking ads on HTC One

Obviously most are aware Google Play have blocked any ad blocking apps but i had an apk. of AdAway from my Galaxy S3 so i installed it on my One but it does not appear to block all ads like it used to even when i manually update it and reboot there's always ads in certain apps, am i using an older version of this apk. or does anyone else have an alternative apk'. of any ad blocking app i could use, or is it something to do with the phone itself?
Cheers
unless you're running a modified kernel with the protection of /system partitions disabled, your host file gets replaced by default every time you reboot.
I've adblock 2.3 and it works fine, i don't have ads in apps
Which version do you have?
And see if you aren't running a custom kernel with /system partition protection disabled.
Have Trickdroid on my phone so I choose stock kernel as it's the most stable i believe, not ready to flash custom kernel yet as development is still in the early stages, running same version as above stated and not sure it blocks any ads, any other way around this without flashing a custom kernel?
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There's a mod that removes the protection from the stock kernel. It's in the development section.
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unless you're running a modified kernel with the protection of /system partitions disabled, your host file gets replaced by default every time you reboot.
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But only on full boot, no problem if you have fast boot enabled... Works fine for me without kernel mod in that basis
Only problem was I needed to install Ad away with titanium backup as it did not show up in the market for some reason
melando said:
But only on full boot, no problem if you have fast boot enabled... Works fine for me without kernel mod in that basis
Only problem was I needed to install Ad away with titanium backup as it did not show up in the market for some reason
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As i mentioned in the OP Google play no longer allow apps like ad away and similar ad blocking apps, ridiculous but what can you do.
I actually don't have fastboot enabled, I'll do that now and try again and report back.
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There's a mod that removes the protection from the stock kernel. It's in the development section.
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I'll keep this in mind cheers
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Ok enabling fastboot hasn't made any difference, rebooted and ads are still showing in apps.
@ gunnyman what's the name of this thing I need to look out for in development section, I'll give this a go.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230341
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230341
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Cheers mate but i wouldn't be totally 100% confident doing this in case I ****ed up again I'll ask if this be incorporated into Trickdroid.
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Adaway working fine here on ARHD8.0. Get f-droid apk, install, search for adaway, install, profit.
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Is your phone rooted??
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Had better luck with adblock plus than adaway, might want to try that instead.
This was one of the first things I installed (all of yesterday, when I got it).
First thing to note is that you don't have to reboot the phone, despite what the app says. Just activate it and go back to Home screen. In fact, a reboot, as noted above, will undo the effects of Ad-away.
I did notice that it seemed to disable itself at one point today, unless my phone rebooted at some point in my pocket without my knowledge, which would be disconcerting.
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Is your phone rooted??
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I'm not being smart mate but I've already said I'm running Trickdroid which is a custom ROM so figure it out for yourself :-\
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Orcworm said:
Had better luck with adblock plus than adaway, might want to try that instead.
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Do you have an up to date apk. for that mate?
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I just checked the "help" information in my AdAway app, it sets out instructions for a workaround for HTC S-on devices i.e. how to move the hosts file to data and put a symlink in system...
Think this answers the question in the OP
Per post 12 you can currently get AdAway here either directly or by installing F-Droid market (alternative to Play store)
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Do you have an up to date apk. for that mate?
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Aye you can grab it here:
https://adblockplus.org/downloads/adblockplusandroid-1.1.2.apk
If you're on stock ROM and don't want to use any kernel patch to make your /system partition writable, you can flash this little zip through recovery (e.g. CWM) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327934. Does exactly the same as the app (blocking hosts through system's hosts file) but applied via recovery

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