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Hey guys, so it just occured to me today, Wii Remote is Bluetooth... Tilt is Bluetooth... you do the math. To me this sounds like a realy good idea but I have not been able to find any thing usefull to make it work once I connect the two, can anyone help me out?
It's been talked over and over, but nobody got anywhere. I personally posted a thread on it a while back but nobody seems to have made any progress since nobody really seems serious about it. The idea itself is very nice however.
It's been done on PC, so yes it's of course possible. But that would be a load of work to port it on WM, and frankly what would you control with a Wiimote on a PPC? Play one day with it to wow your friends and that's it? Not really worth the time and effort...
Well, there's a few obvious drawbacks.
1. No practical IR sensor solution, so pointer's out of the question.
2. The wii-mote's about as big as the phone.
3. Drivers would need to be developed.
However, you'd be able to do the following.
1. Map the buttons to do whatever you want.
2. Play audio through the wiimote(if you so wanted).
3. Have one-touch program launching capabilities without grabbing your phone.
If you ask me, somebody should do it just for the sheer geekiness of it.
And also eventually a PS3 Bluetooth remote too.
There is a posibillity to get this work with few effort. It's a .NET Library which also should work on WM-Phones! Found it on Wiibrew.org or something like that...
would make it awesome for playing games you could play all the snes and megadrive games and it would be sooper cool! and easy to say the least!
not possible.
Wii remote has built in accelerometer.
you can however use the Wii remote as a G-Meter for you car when you hook it up to your laptop.
Elisha said:
not possible.
Wii remote has built in accelerometer.
you can however use the Wii remote as a G-Meter for you car when you hook it up to your laptop.
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That's besides the point; we're wanting just to use it as bt game controller for playing stuff like Mario which afaik doesn't require any accelerometer.
@ kilrah, i would have to disagree with that. It'd be a whole lot of fun using since the bt game pads that are made for PPCs are so lame; i'd be playing on my device a whole lot more if i could use the wiimote.
silversonic1 said:
However, you'd be able to do the following.
1. Map the buttons to do whatever you want.
2. Play audio through the wiimote(if you so wanted).
3. Have one-touch program launching capabilities without grabbing your phone.
If you ask me, somebody should do it just for the sheer geekiness of it.
And also eventually a PS3 Bluetooth remote too.
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1. You already have a large assortment of buttons accessible to program directly on the phone. If you need more buttons than your kaiser has, then just open the keyboard!
2. The wii remote audio is no better sounding than the audio built into the kaiser. Besides, just use your Kaiser to control your audio center on your computer!
3. What will you launch remotely on the phone that you will be able to see from a distance anyway? Seems to me that you would need the phone nearby in order to see what you are controlling anyway.
Total waste of time because there are NO benefits. Just more batteries to charge. No offense for picking on you but I agree with the previous poster. There is no beneficial purpose for trying to use a wii on a kaiser.
Reason for posting
I started this thread cuz i am running NES and GBA games on my TyTAN II and I would love to be able to play using the wii mote. I have been looking into it myself but to be honest I have about as much programming skill as a wet sponge.
Amorphous86 said:
I started this thread cuz i am running NES and GBA games on my TyTAN II and I would love to be able to play using the wii mote. I have been looking into it myself but to be honest I have about as much programming skill as a wet sponge.
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Ive used several bluetooth keyboards that had way too much lag to try to play a game using the directional controls. I somehow doubt that a Wii remote would respond much faster . . . . . . .
Not to be a spoil sport. Hell AFAIK someone has already made the BT on the kaiser responsive enough to use . . . . .
pyraxiate said:
1. You already have a large assortment of buttons accessible to program directly on the phone. If you need more buttons than your kaiser has, then just open the keyboard!
2. The wii remote audio is no better sounding than the audio built into the kaiser. Besides, just use your Kaiser to control your audio center on your computer!
3. What will you launch remotely on the phone that you will be able to see from a distance anyway? Seems to me that you would need the phone nearby in order to see what you are controlling anyway.
Total waste of time because there are NO benefits. Just more batteries to charge. No offense for picking on you but I agree with the previous poster. There is no beneficial purpose for trying to use a wii on a kaiser.
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I beg to differ; if you came from an 8525 to the Tilt, you'll see that the button placement for games is less practical. For the 8525, you could at least have your hands separated at length of the phone so that not everything was crunched; the same can not be said for the Tilt.
How cool would it be to have your Tilt tilted on the desk and you playing a few feet away? Pretty nice imo. To you there might be no benefits, to some of us, it opens a whole new world of gaming
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I beg to differ; if you came from an 8525 to the Tilt, you'll see that the button placement for games is less practical. For the 8525, you could at least have your hands separated at length of the phone so that not everything was crunched; the same can not be said for the Tilt.
How cool would it be to have your Tilt tilted on the desk and you playing a few feet away? Pretty nice imo. To you there might be no benefits, to some of us, it opens a whole new world of gaming
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Admittedly, however you will have to overcome the lag issue . . . . .
What lag issue?
Look 3 posts up
I have had 3 different kaisers and 3 different bluetooth keyboards. Ive tried playing many a game using directional controls on the keyboards and in all 6 combinations , there was too much time between the time i hit the key and the command was interpreted by the kaiser. IE, Controlling Mario in Super Mario brothers using NES emu, if i use the keyboard on the kaiser, mario controlled just fine. When using a bluetooth device mario took approx .5 seconds to start moving after pressing the keys. Thusly, he stopped .5 seconds after the key was depressed or jumped .5 seconds too late.
THIS is the lag i was referring to. I can ONLY assume its because of the lag / latency between a bluetooth device and the bluetooth radio in the kaiser.
ALSO, I tested this with multiple roms and radios, including changing the BT related registry settings.
**EDIT**
This lag may not cause an issue playing puzzle games like tetris ( until you get to the upper levels where reaction time really matters )
Hi I found the link: http://www.codeplex.com/WiiMoB/
hmm, there is such a Program for symbian and nokia n95 etc.
why should it not work on kaiser ???
Hi all,
I saw a thread (after searching) relating to the upcoming release of.....Blueinput for Widcom broadcom stacks.....whichever one (for HD2)
Is this currently the only way (the beta which apparenltly only 10 peeps got) to get a bluetooth mouse working on our HD2?
I can see it and try to pair it (Im using Razor pro click mobile bluetooth mouse) but it asks for a passkey - the mouse does not require a pass key
I have been playing Quake 3 on my N95 using this same mouse (Oli Hinka release),
Oh god.....its so so so good, Tv out and perfect handling I am actually playing a PC game on my phone with real controlls....
So I thought, yeah this could be even better on my HD2 - but cant even pair it let alone play Quake 3.....
We really really need a version of quake 3 for our devices.....just like the N95 port, a perfect PC clone uses all same data file and allows connection to and creation of Game servers.....(play against PC)
People think that playstation games are the be all, they are great but if anyone played this version of Quake3 from my 3 year old N95 8GB it is simply jaw dropping.
anyway...the purpose of my thread was to get bluetooth mouse going, then I got all excited.
Any ideas on pairing methods?
Kind regards
Nope, and even if you could pair it (I can pair mine, as it has a passcode) you can't do anything with it as there's no mouse driver.
Looks like where just going to have to wait for Teksoft to release the bluetooth drivers for the HD2. Hopefully it wont be long i also am very interested in using my bluetooth mouse and keyboard with my phone. It says it will be available very soon on there forum pages.
Hi !
can i ask a question ?
would you mean that the Teksoft would allow my kb600 (you know the-unable-bluetooth-stuff-to-connect ;-) to work with me leo ?
best regards.
ludovic.
I was able to dig up my old BT keyboard, when I scan with the Streak it picks it up but when i try to pair and connect it will not accept the pass key. I have tried 2 differet drivers...One was bluekeyboard I think was japanese, and the other was Keypro settings. If any one can help me with drivers that would be awesome. This keyboard is the perfect Accessory withits builtin kickstand and small form factor
Dell Streak US version Rooted and running 2.1-update1, build 6941
IGO stoway ULTRA-slim keyboard model XTBT01
Thanks
I paired mine with a Dell BT keyboard as well as a little thumb-board/ touchpad combo thing I found on eBay with no fiddling (Streak 1.6 from the UK on O2).
I read that the Streak came with bluetooth keyboard drivers....
'Somewhere' I have an old igo bt keyboard that I used on my palm pilot, I've been thinking I might try and get it working on the Dell. Just need to find it...
Hi there, bought one from ebay.
Got it then couldn't get it to work so found another one on ebay who said it did n had video linking it to ps3
Watched that n then thought what an idiot i was...
All u do is...
Turn on blue tooth...
Turn on ur igo
Type in passkey on streak
type in same passkey on igo n HIT ENTER
Then it pairs although cant get shortcut keys to work but works really well as keyboard
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Hi everybody !
I've got it too, but i'm french so the keyboard is AZERTY and the streak reconize it as qwerty.
Have got a solution to use it good ?
Regards.
BT keyboard
Hi everyone, I got my think outside the box keyboard to work fairly well, I use it to type with the Textpad app. In some games (Angband/Nethack) the arrow L/R keys seem to be backwards... still working that issue but generally it works fine.
Hi, i was thinking that i might actuslly see if i can write an app for the igo keyboard.
Although i have no exeprience in writing apps, jst starting to learn i thougjt it might be a good little project as my first one.
Or maybe not lol..we'll hsve to see how it goes lol
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Hello all
I thought i would let you know of my set up i have for my nexus 7, ever since day 1 on nexus ownership the desktop has been un used, it is such a amazing tablet, far better that ipads and other android tabs which ive owned.
if anyone is looking for a do-it-all set up i have to let you know of mine.
I wanted a Bluetooth keyboard so i got the Logitech android Bluetooth keyboard which was great, after a bit of use i thought i would get a Bluetooth mouse as i didn't want USB cables all over, so i got the Microsoft wedge tough, such a weird mouse, but it is fantastic. The problem was lag, when i had both the keyboard and mouse on (both Bluetooth) they keyboard kept lagging, for example if i typed android it would look like andrrrrrrrrrrrrrroid. this was so annoying so i got the wedge Bluetooth keyboard, again a fantastic keyboard and connected them both, the problem was still there so i experimented with some applications and i found one which solved the problem, if anyone is having the same issue then download external keyboard helper, ever since i got this app i have had no problems, i have seen a few threads so i thought this would hopefully help people out.
If you are looking for a keyboard and mouse combo, go out and get the Microsoft wedge touch and keyboard, there expensive yes, but they are so good, and get hold of the app, currently I'm using the demo version and it has solved the problem, but if anyone has tried the full can you let me know how good it is and whether it is worth forking out the few quid
For audio i sue the Logitech Bluetooth audio hub, so i can use my half decent creative t40's wirelessly both on my nexus 7 my one x and with my desktop, even with the 3 Bluetooth devices connected to my nexus 7 i still have not encountered any other issue with bandwidth or lagging anymore.
i hope this helps some people out there that were experiencing the same problem that i was if anyone needs any help with the Bluetooth problem on JB then let me know and ill help out to the best of my abilities
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£100 for keyboard and mouse? The right ones?
deathking123 said:
Hello all
I thought i would let you know of my set up i have for my nexus 7, ever since day 1 on nexus ownership the desktop has been un used, it is such a amazing tablet, far better that ipads and other android tabs which ive owned.
if anyone is looking for a do-it-all set up i have to let you know of mine.
I wanted a Bluetooth keyboard so i got the Logitech android Bluetooth keyboard which was great, after a bit of use i thought i would get a Bluetooth mouse as i didn't want USB cables all over, so i got the Microsoft wedge tough, such a weird mouse, but it is fantastic. The problem was lag, when i had both the keyboard and mouse on (both Bluetooth) they keyboard kept lagging, for example if i typed android it would look like andrrrrrrrrrrrrrroid. this was so annoying so i got the wedge Bluetooth keyboard, again a fantastic keyboard and connected them both, the problem was still there so i experimented with some applications and i found one which solved the problem, if anyone is having the same issue then download external keyboard helper, ever since i got this app i have had no problems, i have seen a few threads so i thought this would hopefully help people out.
If you are looking for a keyboard and mouse combo, go out and get the Microsoft wedge touch and keyboard, there expensive yes, but they are so good, and get hold of the app, currently I'm using the demo version and it has solved the problem, but if anyone has tried the full can you let me know how good it is and whether it is worth forking out the few quid
For audio i sue the Logitech Bluetooth audio hub, so i can use my half decent creative t40's wirelessly both on my nexus 7 my one x and with my desktop, even with the 3 Bluetooth devices connected to my nexus 7 i still have not encountered any other issue with bandwidth or lagging anymore.
i hope this helps some people out there that were experiencing the same problem that i was if anyone needs any help with the Bluetooth problem on JB then let me know and ill help out to the best of my abilities
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Does the app work with the Logitech keyboard and other mice?
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How well is the microsoft mobile keyboard optimized for Android?
i got the helper pro, it helped alot but still have the issue of when both bt keyboard and bt mouse are connected the browser freezes, restarts.
i have tried mouse and keyboard individually and are 100% perfect on there on.
i still get aaaaaa but rarely with KHP and both bt Kb/mouse connected.
tried usb keyboard with otg cable and bt mouse all was perfect
incidentally for those wanting to fix this it must be with n7/jb as the bt mouse and bt KB work perfect on my htc one x when used in the same configuration as we have the problem on the n7/jb
Spot on!
deathking123 said:
Hello all
I thought i would let you know of my set up i have for my nexus 7, ever since day 1 on nexus ownership the desktop has been un used, it is such a amazing tablet, far better that ipads and other android tabs which ive owned.
if anyone is looking for a do-it-all set up i have to let you know of mine.
I wanted a Bluetooth keyboard so i got the Logitech android Bluetooth keyboard which was great, after a bit of use i thought i would get a Bluetooth mouse as i didn't want USB cables all over, so i got the Microsoft wedge tough, such a weird mouse, but it is fantastic. The problem was lag, when i had both the keyboard and mouse on (both Bluetooth) they keyboard kept lagging, for example if i typed android it would look like andrrrrrrrrrrrrrroid. this was so annoying so i got the wedge Bluetooth keyboard, again a fantastic keyboard and connected them both, the problem was still there so i experimented with some applications and i found one which solved the problem, if anyone is having the same issue then download external keyboard helper, ever since i got this app i have had no problems, i have seen a few threads so i thought this would hopefully help people out.
If you are looking for a keyboard and mouse combo, go out and get the Microsoft wedge touch and keyboard, there expensive yes, but they are so good, and get hold of the app, currently I'm using the demo version and it has solved the problem, but if anyone has tried the full can you let me know how good it is and whether it is worth forking out the few quid
For audio i sue the Logitech Bluetooth audio hub, so i can use my half decent creative t40's wirelessly both on my nexus 7 my one x and with my desktop, even with the 3 Bluetooth devices connected to my nexus 7 i still have not encountered any other issue with bandwidth or lagging anymore.
i hope this helps some people out there that were experiencing the same problem that i was if anyone needs any help with the Bluetooth problem on JB then let me know and ill help out to the best of my abilities
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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You Sir, are a legand. I have purchased the same KB and mouse and was very frustarted with the lag., I still have some lag with the mouse, but this is now a very useable setup, loving it!
Anyone on here used the iCade 8-Bitty Bluetooth controller with any emulators on the HTC One yet? I was able get one cheap but I know how buggy this stuff can be with different phone manufacturers. I really wish Android supported Bluetooth controllers without having to use an app. I play a lot of emulation on my phone and the on screen touch controls just aren't the same. I have read that some custom phone Rom's have capabilities of supporting devices like Wii-motes and PS3 controllers. But it seems neither work on HTC devices with Stock Roms. I hope it works when it finally arrives! :fingers-crossed:
Actually, the Wiimote does work on the Sense rooms with BluezIME. You have to download the separate file as per the instructions in the app, but works fine. It emulates an HID device so I don't believe the joysticks work on a classic controller, but good enough for SNES games. Hope this helps - maybe I should post a separate thread so people know about this method.
Btw I checked BluezIME and with the hid enabler, it has a setting for iCade. Even better!
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Actually, the Wiimote does work on the Sense rooms with BluezIME. You have to download the separate file as per the instructions in the app, but works fine. It emulates an HID device so I don't believe the joysticks work on a classic controller, but good enough for SNES games. Hope this helps - maybe I should post a separate thread so people know about this method.
Btw I checked BluezIME and with the hid enabler, it has a setting for iCade. Even better!
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Wow I will have to check that out. I did a lot of searching online the other night and downloaded an app for Wiimotes but it wouldn't connect to my controller. It came out with some error saying it had known issues with Sense Roms. I also tried the PS3 one and it also had issues. SNES games is exactly what I wanted a controller for. Thanks!
Newer Wiimotes won't connect. To any Rom You'll have to find an older one. Theres literally no way sense could cause a Bluetooth controller to not work.
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Newer Wiimotes won't connect. To any Rom You'll have to find an older one. Theres literally no way sense could cause a Bluetooth controller to not work.
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Granted I have a limited understanding of this, but it seems to me the blue tooth stack is integrated in to Sense (or Touch with for Samsung phones)
My relatively new Wiimote (the new motion plus) and classic works fine in BluezIME. And the wiimote/sixaxis apps both say they usually don't work with sense roms. BluezIME works because it emulates HID mode, natively supported. Fwiw.
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Granted I have a limited understanding of this, but it seems to me the blue tooth stack is integrated in to Sense (or Touch with for Samsung phones)
My relatively new Wiimote (the new motion plus) and classic works fine in BluezIME. And the wiimote/sixaxis apps both say they usually don't work with sense roms. BluezIME works because it emulates HID mode, natively supported. Fwiw.
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I should reword. Newer Wiimotes won't work. Wiimotes with motion plus do. It has something to do with the Bluetooth key in the wiimotes themselves. They won't even work on pc.
I don't see how a bluetooth lib would be changed to the point it breaks functionality(or at all really) but I suppose sense could be an issue.
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I believe the old ones I have are from a launch system, so I can't speak for new ones. But they never worked on my Evo 3D (I don't recall if I tried BluezIME, only the Wiimote app. Once Cyanogenmod was ported, they worked without a hitch. So it seems to be some issue with how HTC implements Bluetooth, beyond that I can't say. Oddly, I believe One X users were able to use them, I'm not sure, but if so that's very unusual that it's back to not working. Oh well. BluezIME works fine for my purposes, usb-otg cable is in the mail and I'm hoping that works, if not no big deal
I have an original launch Wii controller and I was able to get it to connect. It took a couple tries it kept asking for a passkey. But eventually it took. So it does work which is great. But when I plugged in the classic controller it got a little crazy. Setting up the button mapping in SuperGNES didn't go very well. It was almost like a button was auto pressing everytime I selected a button to map. I'm a little too tired to figure it out tonight but will probably dig into it a little more tomorrow.
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So bad news - I bought a USB-OTG cable. Keyboard, mouse, thumbdrive, all plug and play. Works fine. But PS3 remote and an old off-brand I had lying around do not. Why do they insist on removing gamepad support? It works fine in stock Android - has since, what, ICS? Guess I'll probably jump to MIUI, supposing we see it. Maybe I'll take a stab at the kernel source and see what I can find. Doubt I'm skilled enough for that sort of thing, though.
My iCade 8Bitty controller finally came in today. It works great with the emulators I use. Didn't have to do anything fancy to get it to work, pretty smooth sailing. Simple set up. Looks like it will work with any app/game that says it supports it. :good:
Too lazy to look for the info at 4AM, but yes, Sense is a major issue that breaks Bluetooth functionality. Something in Sense was causing a conflict in the Bluetooth driver, so HTC disabled certain functions in the driver. As a result, Wiimotes, as well as some other devices, won't work. Apparently HTC finally got around to fixing the issue rather than just sweeping it under the rug. Good for them. And us.