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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Is there a better community of beta testers than xda-developers?
I'm very happy with all my Samsung mobiles (...,blade, i780, Omnia2, ...) I hope Samsung STEP IN into this community and help us help them
Samsung: let us test your Beta please (We do it for free!)
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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Agreed you are mean
I nearly fell from chair.
IF they would release thier Froyo as beta to this forum - they could get beta feedback by reading about bugs posted by us AND does not have to deal with the consequences we know how to reflash - "normal" users dont.
So Win Win for both.
Yeah, you really should have titled the thread as a question. As worded, it makes folks think it's actually happened.
LOL at people's hopes being dashed.
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
Samsung, your turn.
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FROYO
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there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
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Already Alpha versions out :|? What!? Where?
Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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I fired up a google search and i found a lot of hits about a froyo alpha on a galaxy spica. Maybe some things got mixed up.
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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You're absolutely right. However i have a HTC Magic (very old android phone) and i'm running Froyo and it rocks =) hehehe, i know, i know, it's not official
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
I'm selling my HTC Magic right now to help buying this phone
Cheers,
Phk
AXIS of Reality said:
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Yep we sure are
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
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Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Yep we sure are
Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Possibly but I think I have to go with the sceptic masses here that say samsung support isn't good in longterm and so I guess they won't do that. Unless ofc gingerbread is going to bring the massive UI update that vanilla android so desperately needs for usablity and samsung decides that touchwiy isnt necessary anymore.
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Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
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There are developers assigned to port CyanogenMod to the Vibrant (T-Mobile US version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729364
Unfortunately, looking at Wes Garner's Twitter, he seems rather more keen on the Slide than the Vibrant:
I like the slide better
@wesgarner so does that mean your gonna keep developing for the slide?
@XJRodzx probably more for it than the vibrant
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So don't know how that's necessarily going to work out. The intention is there, though, anyway - hope it's still in progress!
I have doubts with Gingerbread...from what we know so far, it's supposed to have a (MUCH NEEDED!) UI overhaul based around the Gallery's sexy look.
If a phone is launched with a certain interface, chances are the manufacturer probably wouldn't be keen on releasing an update that changes everything because of the issue with it being different to what the buyer paid for. Basically, it changes the product, and the picture on the box is no longer what you've bought. It's all well and good with something like Eclair to Froyo since it's largely just performance improvements and some new features rather than an overhaul.
If anything, I think Samsung would be more likely to release a new version of the Galaxy S at Gingerbread's launch. Much like it's doubtful the HTC Desire / Evo 4G / Incredible will get Gingerbread updates. Instead, HTC will probably have new devices ready for the new interface.
The Nexus One is the only current device I believe has a chance of Gingerbread, mainly because it's the 'official' Google phone and has been promoted and sold as a developer phone.They'll be wanting some nice apps ready for Gingerbread when it launches which will obviously need to be in development before Gingerbread-equipped phones launch.
What are your thoughts? Is it possible? I think the hardware is capable of handling ICS, and I would love to have GPU-acceleration. I knows in some unofficial way there will be ICS(CM7 for example) but if Samsung decides to release it official then it show that they still care.
I think yes,we will be getting ICS.But we will have to wait few months after google offcially releases ICS
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Considering the sgs2 is already out and quite successful, I personally doubt the sgs1 will get ICS from Samsung.
Of course getting ICS ROMs from XDA devs is another thing completely, and is pretty well certain.
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Maybe thats what they are working on and why we have nothing new since JVR?
from what ive know samsung was undecided if sgs1 hardware is enought for ics just few months ago,
but at the same time if it would be ok they wanted ics on sgs1
we saw screenies from first alfa compiles for nexuss that is basicly sgs1 with nfc and flashlight so i hope that it is only a matter of time that they will start working (or already started) on a sgs1 version
will be the same as with ginger, first hopefully very early leak (as with jv1)
then months of developing with leaks here and there to forums to iron bugs in mass testing
and after a half of year first pushes (so probaby first leak ~january and around may july first official ones)
sure the process will go faster fo new nexusprime and sgs2 as those are the main devices now
but where to iron most bugs like on a well known device (i hope) hhe
I think no u.u maybe the galaxy s2
From my Galaxy S
Google stated on the IO, that devices capable running Gingerbread is also capable running ICS.
OK, I'll ask ..... what is ICS?
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OK, I'll ask ..... what is ICS?
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sony ericsson said that every xperia from 2011 will get ics. the arc is weaker than galaxy s,so it should run perfectly on our sgs.
sony ics? nono
[Updated] Sony Ericsson Promises 2011 XPERIA Line Will Get Ice Cream Sandwich, We Try To Act Skeptical
Sony Ericsson: No Decision Has Been Made To Bring Ice Cream Sandwich To Xperia Devices
I personally dont think Sony Ericsson will abandon Xperia Arc, Neo etc, I think they'll get ICS and I really hope Samsung also release it for SGS, I think the hardware can manage it perfectly
Hmm 2.3.4 is released for SGS2, i still have not recived official 2.3.4 here in sweden..very odd
The thing is, even if our galaxy s does get ics, it might not work flawlessly. On eclair, the galaxy s had around 200Mb of RAM on boot, while on froyo it had around 160Mb or RAM. However, on gringerbread, it only has about 120-140Mb of RAM upon boot, and after just a day of usage, it can drop up to 80-90Mb, causing the phone to operate rather slowly, something which did not happen when I was on froyo. So, my fear is that the RAM requirements of the ics might be a tad too high for the galaxy s to handle for long term usage.
I agree with rschenk. I think hardware is not a problem about Galaxy S but when I saw how long we have been waiting for gingerbread... Maybe official release ICS for Galaxy S will be a year after google release the ICS SDK.
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Maybe thats what they are working on and why we have nothing new since JVR?
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Not true, we have JVS based on 2.3.5
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The thing is, even if our galaxy s does get ics, it might not work flawlessly. On eclair, the galaxy s had around 200Mb of RAM on boot, while on froyo it had around 160Mb or RAM. However, on gringerbread, it only has about 120-140Mb of RAM upon boot, and after just a day of usage, it can drop up to 80-90Mb, causing the phone to operate rather slowly, something which did not happen when I was on froyo. So, my fear is that the RAM requirements of the ics might be a tad too high for the galaxy s to handle for long term usage.
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There is always a solution. Look what they did with HTC Desire to get gingerbread, they removed some integrated programs to free up ram, same thing could be done with SGS
As already said they could just clean some useless stock apps (there are enough ) and then we'll have no problem with RAM.
Looks like we will get it.
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...xus-one-and-most-gingerbread-phones-20111019/
of course we will
that was obvious as soon as the leaked ICS video emerged running very well on Nexus S preceded with screenshots of system settings/system info also from Nexus S - everything that runs there runs easily on SGS1 - it was rumored that it will run on almost every device capable running GB - it just got confirmed
after Galaxy Nexus it will be first (at least officialy) SGS2 / Nexus S / Galaxy Note probably and then Nexus One and SGS1
there will be no official ICS prior to Galaxy Nexus Premiere
but i belive in leaks so we might get some early build leaks
but that will be best guarded scret of Samsung/Google till then =)
As first:
We will use icecream and jellybean and later on our device. %100.
Cyanogenmod?
Samsung will release Ice Cream for our devices too.. It's %100 and I think we will get ice cream earlier than SGS2! Look how we get 2.3.5 earlier. That's not %100. But that's; We will use a few more updates on our devices.
We already have buttons ...Does this mean ICS roms will have four buttons ?
Maybe next time in Q & A section ?
Obviously there will be an option to hide the onscreen buttons.
Well lets think about all this when it is actually released. And I am pretty sure that Samsung and google have through about these things.
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We already have buttons ...Does this mean ICS roms will have four buttons ?
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If it's software button, there'll be a way to hide it, customize it or even destroy your phone using it.
I cannot wait to get my hands on it. I guess I was a bit jumpy making the thread tho. My bad guys
I'm not sure ICS will be available on our SGS 1 ...
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I'm not sure ICS will be available on our SGS 1
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Way not? Based on what?
Doubt that samsung will release ICS for sgs, we got 2.2 and 2.3, i think thats that for this phone.
Only based on my personal opinion I'm not sure if Samsung has a commercial interest in supporting Sgs 1 when they have the sgs2 now, plus 512mb is maybe too small for ICS ? Yeah I know Nexus S will have it, but without Touch Wizz... I hope I'm wrong .
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It will be on S1 as long as will be developers for roms & themes.
I wouldn't count on seeing ICS on the i9000.
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I wouldn't count on seeing ICS on the i9000.
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Don't break my heart lol
I have a feeling that it won't come out for the I9000, too.
It will be released for the Nexus S which is quite similar to the I9000 but they won't release it for us.
No doubt we'll see people raging on samsung for not coming out with ICS for I9000, while ignoring that it's unlikely any phone from mid-2010 will get it.
How many raging "never again samsung"s did we see over 2.3, with many pretending HTC is so much better when SGS actually got it before Desire that came out about the same time. Grass is always greener...
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I agree with you, but its just stupid that one year old phone is already abandonware, competition (khm Apple) suports their phones atleast two years with major updates, while we get 500 euros (not subsidized) old bricks after one year.
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I agree with you, but its just stupid that one year old phone is already abandonware, competition (khm Apple) suports their phones atleast two years with major updates, while we get 500 euros (not subsidized) old bricks after one year.
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I'd happy to take your bricks, after 1 year.
To be fair, the phone first release in June 2010, and now over one year later, Samsung still update the phone (JVT just leaked ?), and even if they doesn't support, you can still install many custom ROM or AOSP ROM
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... old bricks after one year.
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Sorry, how can you say that? Your phone doesn't suddenly stop working just because you don't get the latest update of Android. I still have an old Ericsson T68 which hasn't had an update in years but still works
I'm not sure but I think I read somewhere that new Android phones will be supported a minimum of 18 months with software upgrades. Although that may not mean anything for our Galaxy S
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I have a feeling that it won't come out for the I9000, too.
It will be released for the Nexus S which is quite similar to the I9000 but they won't release it for us.
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If it comes out on the Nexus S, then the SGS "should" be able to run it...
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The Nexus S will most likely have the ICS update. The Galaxy S has similar hardware to the Nexus S, so even if it is not officially released for the Galaxy S, someone will be able to port it.
Look here! http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra What do you think? Video Encoding/decoding and H/w bugs can now solved? ???
As a lot of developers said, this is for linux, not for android so it's useless
Oh my God... please use the search button! Please! This is not for android, but for Linux! If you read the date of publishing you can understand that it is impossible that our developers don't know it, and do not open a new thread for this in developement section!
There is an identical topic in general created today...
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wtf... im confused... isnt android linux? O_O
I'd say its definitly time for fully working ICS but who knows what NVIDIA thinks about it... .
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Android is linux based os for mobile devices
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You just answered yourself sir
Linux BASED
My ubuntu binaries doesn't work on Android so don't expect Linux blobs will work
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owain, i thought galaxy s2 had ics already, if so, why not port the drivers?
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owain, i thought galaxy s2 had ics already, if so, why not port the drivers?
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It's not the same hardware...
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It's not the same hardware...
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ohhh. thought at least video and graphics processors where the same
At this moment, none of the three handsets with Tegra 2 (LG P990/P999/SU660, Motorola ME860/MB860, Samsung GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
At the same time, these 3 manufacturers have rolled out ICS updates for other devices, so it's not like they don't know how to work with ICS.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on who should be blamed for this frustrating situation of our devices. I know, though, who NOT to buy from again (hint: it's not LG).
And before someone say T2 tablets getting ICS, tablets != phones. I don't think any T2 tablets even have a 3G radio, so the chip can be of a completely different SKU and hence incompatible binaries.
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At this moment, none of the three handsets with Tegra 2 (LG P990/P999/SU660, Motorola ME860/MB860, Samsung GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
At the same time, these 3 manufacturers have rolled out ICS updates for other devices, so it's not like they don't know how to work with ICS.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on who should be blamed for this frustrating situation of our devices. I know, though, who NOT to buy from again (hint: it's not LG).
And before someone say T2 tablets getting ICS, tablets != phones. I don't think any T2 tablets even have a 3G radio, so the chip can be of a completely different SKU and hence incompatible binaries.
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Yes it is LG
If it was nvidia I would not typing this on a tegra device
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lol owain, you're silly
but I reckon that even if someone can grab the ICS build of the newer LG phones (Lge/Lge2/4x?) that without the right T2 binaries...its pretty much useless?
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lol owain, you're silly
but I reckon that even if someone can grab the ICS build of the newer LG phones (Lge/Lge2/4x?) that without the right T2 binaries...its pretty much useless?
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Why ?
Nvidia probably gave the sources to lg (and other companies) before the public ics release
It is not up to nvidia to update the device to ICS it is up to lg but they are busier with newer phones
You would do the same if you were owner of lg it is about making money not about supporting old devices
Priority 1 new phones
Priority 2 software updates for the new phones
Priority 3 support for old phones
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nah I just like your general attitude towards building ROMS for this phone! its great to have a good community right?
I agree though with your logic...its just a truth that I choose not to accept since I did buy this phone nay a year ago for a hefty sum of money. I just want LG to give you guys the sources so we can all have fun and leave them alone (and get me that ICS fun)
Yeah I don't know why LG don't just "leak" the ics testing rom for O2X which I'm sure does exist in the deepest realm of LG.
That way it would get us lot of their back, they could concentrate on the newer phones, and nobody would care about the official release of ICS for O2X anymore
As someone who has had several LG phones I can safely say that once they have released a phone LG tends to stop giving a crap about it.
I think it's not in the LG itself, because no one with a Tegra 2 is not received ICS. Samsung has updated all the models, but it has not updated the model Galaxy R, but we know how well does the Samsung firmware! I think there is some sort of a different problem!
Nvidia probably gave the sources to lg (and other companies) before the public ics release
It is not up to nvidia to update the device to ICS it is up to lg but they are busier with newer phones
You would do the same if you were owner of lg it is about making money not about supporting old devices
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It depends on the quality of the company, after a very long supported samsung Galaxy S, even when the market was a Galaxy S2.
The company realized the essence of Samsung Android devices, such as to make them attractive to buyers - do quality support. Other companies do not understand this, because the coolest gadget, without the support - a piece of plastic!
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Yeah I don't know why LG don't just "leak" the ics testing rom for O2X which I'm sure does exist in the deepest realm of LG.
That way it would get us lot of their back, they could concentrate on the newer phones, and nobody would care about the official release of ICS for O2X anymore
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I asked Paul from Modaco to get a leak from his LG internal source.
Unfortunately there is nothing to leak yet...
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http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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That's not good enough from Sony. Unless they aren't trying to compete in 2013 and just wanna make a quick buck.
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gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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Let's give sony a chance this time buddy. Even I did since they have a change in leadership(CEO) just now so things may change. :fingers-crossed:
Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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S4 isn't launched yet, n AFAIK , m7 has 4.1.2 too.
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S4 isn't launched yet
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Really?
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I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.
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I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.
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That would be good too.
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"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'
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what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'
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Yes, no worries, I understood that. I also tried to say: I too think they should release it with 4.2
Also looking at their pre production phone, their software looks pretty bad, so I don't think it would matter with "buggy" 4.2 or the base they've been developing it on. Atm their base looks bad, so either they fix it in two months, or they rebase it om 4.2
The thing is that: this is their flagship phone, 4.2 has been out for a while, 2 months is still a long time, they have a lot of Sony devs, so I still don't see how releasing a flagship in 2013 with dated android is a wise choice.
This seems to be their standard though: dated android. They did this with the x10 or whatever it was called, and i won't be surprised if they do it again now. But hopefully the new management is improved and we'll se updates in timely matter. Also if they keep the community support up, it won't matter since it will have dev support
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You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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XDA named Sony "2012 OEM of the year" for a reason, and that means a lot to me.
They are changing, listening, officialy unlocking bootloaders, sticking to their update pathway, helping the devs community a lot, etc.
I believe the release of 4.1.2 is a marketing strategy.
Releasing 4.1.2 as initial firmware core and updating it to 4.2 then the next generation of android would make it look like they'll be providing subsequent updates. While if they release 4.2 as an initial firmware and update it to next android soon that would only look like they provided a single update which would invoke another rant from users like
"Sony promised 18months of support yet they only released 1 OS update!!!"
"Sony only released 1 update on their flagship phone they just release a device and loses interest on it after sales."
So yeah... if they make the initial OS 4.1.2 then that would make it 2 major updates while if they release 4.2 as initial OS that would only make 1 major update.
Like the logic says... Any number greater than 1 = many. :angel:
barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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As it says by the time S4 launched Xperia Z will have 4.2.
CnC-ROCK said:
http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?
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The phone would have been in testing prior to 4.2's release... so early internal builds would have been based on 4.1.x anyway - so I can see why it's launching with 4.1. They would want to be on the ball with the 4.2 launch,,,, if it gets pushed back then people looking at buying this phone 3-6 months after launch are going to be wary about future updates.
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Eddiemc said:
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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Why strange? Show me an example of another device other than a Nexus launching with 4.2 in the same timeframe?
Show me an example of a device other than a Nexus or the Transformer tablets getting ICS prior to March or so of 2012? Show me an example of one that got an update prior to April/May or so that wasn't an *utter epic steaming turd*? All of the Transformer tablets first ICS updates were poor, Galaxy S II ICS was a steaming pile of **** for months... Hell, if you've got a carrier branded device it STILL is...
Not to mention 4.2 is one of the more buggy releases from Google, are there any devices apart from Nexus devices officially running 4.2 yet?