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Alright so I've been running the cyan nightlies, I just updated to the latest one, installed the battery fix. Everythings working fine, put my phone down for and hour and the batt is at like %75, I go under battery use and it puts the screen at 79%, is this normal? I had my screen off most of the time and when it was on it wasnt bright and if this isn't normal how can I fix it?
Have you rebooted to see if it does this after every reboot? Try rebooting normally then see if its still doing it.
If so, then reboot into recovery, wipe dalvik, then reboot normally. Check your battery stats again after a couple hours and see if it's still doing it after the dalvik wipe.
(FYI, this belongs in Q&A section)
can you link to the battery fix plz?
I have had very high display usage on every version of CM6, and you will find it is a VERY common complaint on CDMA Hero's running CM6.
Everyone says it's because Froyo is more efficient, and uses less battery overall, so your display percentage is higher.
I call B.S. on that. I have had poor battery life with the more than 20 nightly versions I have run. I have had the Hero since the day before it came out, and I have never had worse battery life. I even bought a new battery thinking my battery was dying on me, and I still won't make it through a day (7 am - 11 pm) without plugging the phone in during the day.
My guess is there is something up with the display/lights/light sensor drivers that have been implemented in CM6 that don't allow something with the display to sleep properly. Either that, or the battery usage screen is simply completely inaccurate.
I could literally reboot my phone, leave it untouched with the screen off for four hours, then turn on the screen for one minute, and the display usage would shoot up to 50-75%. There is no way one minute of screen usage is using more battery than 4 hours of phone standby using the radio, checking email/twitter/facebook/gmail.
Anyway, that's just my opinion on the matter. Other than the battery life, the newest nightlies of CM6 are simply incredible, so I just deal with the poor battery life.
@ziggy682 -- Thanks for that info. I haven't yet tried CM6 (mainly cuz I'm so dependent on some Sense apps and widgets), and now that I'm reading about some battery issues I may hold off on trying it even longer.
@omair2005 -- if you haven't found it yet, here's the new thread on collin_ph's battery tweak specifically for CM/darch ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762283
Simple Poll.
Have you seen a decrease or increase?
Someone can explain this battery drain?
in a lot of roms based on 2.2.1 there is a big battery drain, in some other there isn't.
nagash91 said:
Someone can explain this battery drain?
in a lot of roms based on 2.2.1 there is a big battery drain, in some other there isn't.
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Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
AndDiSa said:
Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
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OK I have done.. but the problem is that when I use it 3 o 4 minutes (for example I install an application using a file explorer, then I read a message and then I come back to home) m battery get 5% lower...
In standby I lose 10% in 6 - 7 hours (I think this is normal).
AndDiSa said:
Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
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I am currently without a computer therefore immune to this USB bug. I flashed CM6.1 to this and the other g1 and both suffered substaintial amounts of battery drain so I nandroid restored back to CSDIv4 and still the lowest frequencies and settings did little to combat the descending digits. So I tried this...
Recalibrated my battery
Flashed SuperWipe.zip
Reboot
Flashed SparksMod's latest
Reboot
Wiped battery stats
Unplugged...reboot
Battery lasted 23 hours the first day never seen anything like it.
Lifes great.
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I'm using TMUS-G1-Froyo CM6 remix..
and I'm using the new radio with +14mb.
The rom flies but the battery go down too fast.
I'm using setCPU with 256 - 528 mhz while screen is on, 122 - 256 mhz while screen off.
If I go to battery use in settings I see
Cell standby 45%
display 28%
phone idle 22%
android system 3%
I don't think is normal... cell standby is the battery use by cell radio..
I wonder if the new radio give a big battery drain..
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I'm using TMUS-G1-Froyo CM6 remix..
and I'm using the new radio with +14mb.
The rom flies but the battery go down too fast.
I'm using setCPU with 256 - 528 mhz while screen is on, 122 - 256 mhz while screen off.
If I go to battery use in settings I see
Cell standby 45%
display 28%
phone idle 22%
android system 3%
I don't think is normal... cell standby is the battery use by cell radio..
I wonder if the new radio give a big battery drain..
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I got real excited when I heard about the new radio and hboot even thought that its exclusion was the source of the the battery issues. Haven't been able to try it as I'm without a up-to-date PC at the moment.
It would be real nice if I could find a seasoned dev who understands battery consumption. I thought the kernal was the main culprit but I've tried two different roms with the same kernal and one has notably better battery life than the other. So confusing.
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I can't use my phone with this battery drain...
I will come back to official android OTA-AOSP 1.6.. with +14mb.
So I'll test if this kernel with 14mb is a cause of battery drain.
PS: I'm not a lover of rom customizations.. I think the official roms are the best.
The other are all too heavy. I'm not a fan of cm kernel, that is too heavy for g1.
I would see an official OTA 2.2 without customizations, so every one could customize as he want, and if he want.
PS: OK I flashed AOSP 1.6 using ezBiff_kernel to have 15mb (cause I have new radio and spl, so I can flash roms only using this kernel).
Result: my battery life is similar to froyo 2.2 roms... so the problem is:
1) Kernel? (ezBiff_kernel is based on cyanomod kernel... ... ... heavy as death)
2) New radio/spl?
3) My battery (I don't think so.. it's new battery. I buy it 2 weeks ago and in the beginning it works so well.. but then I flashed new radio/spl and new kernel for 15mb..)
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1) Kernel? (ezBiff_kernel is based on cyanomod kernel... ... ... heavy as death)
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Come now.. the cm pershoot kernels are super optimized so they don't collapse under the heavy as death rom that is usually on top of it..
I get mixed results with that kernel between testing and feedback.
A test phone can idle on wifi+2g for days on the stock g1 battery even after a usb unplug.. but on more common use with syncing services its not performing as well as I'd like..
Some of it is fixed with less swap/compcache or changing clock speeds 122/480 for most the speed but lower voltage levels. Also the interactive governor may work better.. I'm testing these ideas if results are good my next kernels defaults will use them.
Cm/pershoot have some interesting new power management code from other htc devices.. So hopefully soon all will be better. (I merged most of it to my kernel but there are some loose ends.. works well untill the phone locks up.. so no public release yet)
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Come now.. the cm pershoot kernels are super optimized so they don't collapse under the heavy as death rom that is usually on top of it..
I get mixed results with that kernel between testing and feedback.
A test phone can idle on wifi+2g for days on the stock g1 battery even after a usb unplug.. but on more common use with syncing services its not performing as well as I'd like..
Some of it is fixed with less swap/compcache or changing clock speeds 122/480 for most the speed but lower voltage levels. Also the interactive governor may work better.. I'm testing these ideas if results are good my next kernels defaults will use them.
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Ok sorry I talk without knowledge. I really don't know the effect of the cm kernel. I only know that all roms based on cm release, with cm kernel, are so heavy and slow.
I like your rom (2.2.1 AOSP) and I love your new way to get 14mb.
But I have this orrible problem. My phone has a lot of battery drain when I use it. With screen off, no problems.
I have never used swap or compcache in this days, and I also try different clock speeds (not over 528mhz).
The result is that when I unlock my phone, I go to settings, I see for example 95% battery. Ok, I return to home, I open a message, I return to home, I open contacts and I scroll some contacts without make calls.
Then I come back to battery settings and I see that is 92-93%..
in 2 minutes of soft use.. I think this is impossible. If I open stupids 2D games... ahah in 5-10 minutes my battery lose 10 - 20%.
I remember 1 year ago, with 1.6 (no cyanomod) my battery was good.
Now it isn't (I have a new battery).
Today I flashed aosp 1.6 with your kernel for 14mb (I have new radio&spl) but nothing... I lose a lot of battery percent as in froyo.
So I think problem is or battery calibration, or something to wipe, or cm kernel, or new radio&spl + your new kernel...
Now I'm recalibrating battery (is at 1% from 2 hours, I'm not using it.. ) then I will recharge for 8 - 9 hours and then wipe battery state, but I have done this process a lot of time without a benefit.
I'll try to remove the new radio+spl (so also using standard kernel) if my battery continue to lose percents so fast.
I'll keep you update on my "story".
PS: Sorry for my bad english!! XD
OK.. after a day of low discharging and a night of 8 hour of recharging, I wiped battery states, I wiped data-cache-ext ecc... I flashed aosp 1.6 and ezbiff kernel..
"battery drain" continue...
I will try tomorrow to reflash death-spl and old radio..
BTW, is normal for hours battery 4v at 90%?
On the back of the battery sais 3.7v... I thought 3.7 was the voltage for 100%
Update
I know this thread is a little old, but I ran into this problem as well. What I found was that the official US radio (2.22.23.02) used considerably more battery than the international one (2.22.19.26i). The other thing I noticed is that switching to "use 2G networks only" in mobile networks settings and disabling data over mobile drastically improved battery life.
I also noticed that wifi used a fair bit of juice so my recommendation is to disable wifi if you're going to be on the go for a bit, and disable data/3g if you're just going to be hanging out in the local webcafe, your/a friend's house, or some other location with wifi access for a while.
If you wanted to be ambitious and cared enough you could write a script to use as a shortcut on the home screen to do the swap automatically (detect which setting(s) are enabled and swap them to the opposite).
With those changes, you should get much better battery life. My thoughts on different Froyo flavors is that possibly different builds have different settings by default. Cyanogen comes with data and 3g enabled by default so this will quickly suck out your battery if you're running your 3g, 2g and wifi antennas all at once.
The stock build (1.6) got about the same battery life as I'm getting now with those settings applied. With either build, having all antennas on all the time will drain your battery very rapidly. Being a little more cognizant of the settings (perhaps you also had it set to 2g only on the stock build) you're using will significantly improve your battery life. And when I say significantly, I mean night and day (but the antenna version definitely does also make a difference... at least in my case).
I have not yet updated my Captivate to 2.2. Reading posts in regard to the update I am very bothered by a common complaint that battery life has just died. My Captivate has excellent battery life using it fairly heavily over a 1 day period. I charge it every nite. Also, my GPS is workng fine in 2.1. So am considering not updating it due to the problems I am hearing about.
Anyone else have input on battery life after the update??
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
Battery life did reduce on 2.2 but it is obvious in my point of view. But its not too bad either.
it's about the same, i upgraded to stock 2.2, feel no difference on the battery life. moderate usage last mine for about more than 24 hrs, u should update to froyo for you to experience it.
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SnackCracker said:
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
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I upgraded Stock 2.2 end of Feb and noticed a big drop in my battery life the first week. But just reading above, i did turn on "apps syncing background data" so i think that's my problem. Just turned that off so we shall see...
Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
My battery has been about the same since the 2.2 upgrade. At first it felt like my battery was draining quicker but I also noticed I was playing with more phone more. The screen is the biggest power drain on the phone so just playing with menus and looking at new settings can cause a small dent.
Give it a week or two after upgrading and you'll notice it'll be about the same. Unless of course you have more accounts or programs syncing data in the background.
Why upgrade to 2.2
Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
gstreff said:
Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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2.2 ROM is a big step forward, not backward, IMO. Sure it didn't solve GPS issue but it is not making it worse either. GPS issue is purely hardware issue. If you have a good one, it doesn't matter which stock firmware you use.
I just can't see any disadvantage for upgrading (other than slightly more difficult to root or unlock, but not impossible). Battery life thing is as I mentioned above. You will see all kinds of complaints (either dain too fast or too slow) after a new firmware comes out, any firmware. You don't know what you're missing until you upgraded.
I noticed a big improvement in battery life. Sometimes with light use it will last up to four days, whereas before with 2.1 it would putter out after maybe two days.
GPS isn't fixed, but drop one of many GPS fixes in and it will get somewhat normal performance.
Wifi sleep policy
You may also want to check the Wifi sleep policy after the upgrade to Froyo. In my case, the default was "Never sleep". Changing this to "When screen turns off" improves battery life on 2.2, as it does on 2.1.
Just my $.02 worth.
foxbat121 said:
Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
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I'm on stock 2.2 since the day it came out. My battery life is actually trending worse day-by-day. I did a full battery clear/reset this weekend and after 4 days I'm finding battery life is not improving at all. The degradation from stock 2.1 is significantly noticeable to me.
For the first couple of days post-update it seemed actually to be better, but got worse and worse, to where I was lucky to find the phone working 12 hours after disconnecting from the charger @ 100% ... even if I hadn't -touched- the phone during the day. My applications loaded are virtually identical to before.
I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1? I know that Google Voice, etc, were doing background syncs in 2.1.
It can't be WiFi, as for the last 2-3 days I've kept WiFi turned off. However just for sanity I did adjust the sleep policy.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1?
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it is the same as in 2.1.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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That might be your problem. I don't know. I know 2.1 doesn't work very well with microcell either.
Yep. I'm pretty convinced it is the microcell now. Phone works great with it from a call/data/signal standpoint. However after unplugging my microcell last night, charging my phone to 100%, and then letting the phone discharge normally with no microcell ... I'm now 10 hours later and have an almost full battery.
Sad, because our reception here is so spotty that we lose calls and data regularly without the microcell. My wife says her phone charge has been pretty normal, so I'm getting ready to move the cell away from my desk and see if distance helps the story.
So, as far as this thread is concerned, my results for 2.2 and battery life are great ... better than with 2.1 ... just don't use it with a microcell.
Froyao 2.2 Battery Usage Dillema
I see no significant or excess battery drain while riding the KB1 over the JF6.
Just a thought for those experiencing excessive or significant battery drain. KB1 loads some new features and new additional bloatware that loads on boot and runs as a service, process and both.
If you're familiar with poking around your system settings and understand what doesn't need to always be running in the background, or what doesn't need to load on boot, you can simply kill the process and even alter the way a certain application handles on boot.
By killing many unneeded or unwanted processes at boot time, it will significantly save you hours upon hours of battery life in the longer scheme.
Another FYI, Lithium Ion batteries have memory. You need to train or retrain the batteries memory over time in order to sustain a longer life for it.
Tips:
Don't continually through the charger on your device after minimal drainage. Let the battery run down before fully recharging it again.
When flashing to another ROM wipe your battery stats.
When flashing any new code to your device - a few forced charge deaths to purge the battery and reset the memory again prior to recharging may be a good idea...
Hope this helps...
Peace-
Liv33viL
Hi,
I don't have sufficient posts to be able to participate directly in that forum, so have no other choice but to raise my queries here.
I've just flashed over from Overcome "Hermes" to "Jupiter". All's well except that the battery performance is quite drastically affected for me.
I've been reading the improved battery life "Jupiter" gets over earlier versions of the Overcome ROMs, but I seem to be experiencing the opposite.
Already did the batt stat wipe via recovery menu. Do I need to so call "run-in" before it reflects correctly? Even if accuracy is one thing... but dropping 3% just on bootup.... is this typical of an uncalibrated battery?
Appreciate any advise here on what I should do. (Apart from a fresh wipe install )
Thanks
I appreciate the enthusiasm these coding geniuses have in rolling out update after updates in the ROMS yet I am apprehensive about the effect of these frequent flashing on the Galaxy Tab components itself. This includes the battery.
My job involves electronic repair and there is a so called number of hours before an equipment goes for a thorough check(preventive maintenance) say for example 1000 hours on a meter. Unfortunately the galaxy tab (or any tablet) does not have this. So if you frequently do a flashing on your tab you subject the electronic components to unnecessary stress,thereby affecting the life of the components like the battery.
In "normal" everyday use of the tab you will seldom do any restart/reboot of your tab,yet in flashing ROMs as many as 3 reboots is needed. As I don't know how to measure the surge in current during reboot, I can just imagine how high an initial current during startup is generated, thus putting a big strain on the battery.
Unfortunately the battery is not user detachable.
There was an author here in XDA describing himself/herself as an "flashing addict"(or something similar). I would like to appeal to everyone-please don't be a flashing addict.
As for battery issue read here
JUST MY FEW CENTS!
PCdumb said:
Hi,
I don't have sufficient posts to be able to participate directly in that forum, so have no other choice but to raise my queries here.
I've just flashed over from Overcome "Hermes" to "Jupiter". All's well except that the battery performance is quite drastically affected for me.
I've been reading the improved battery life "Jupiter" gets over earlier versions of the Overcome ROMs, but I seem to be experiencing the opposite.
Already did the batt stat wipe via recovery menu. Do I need to so call "run-in" before it reflects correctly? Even if accuracy is one thing... but dropping 3% just on bootup.... is this typical of an uncalibrated battery?
Appreciate any advise here on what I should do. (Apart from a fresh wipe install )
Thanks
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According to the Tweaks section at the team overcome website, it will take several charge cycles before you notice an improvement after the stat wipe. Try giving it a few days before going any further.
PS Not to question your ability to follow instructions (sometimes we miss things) but did you charge to 100% with the tab off?
Yes, I did charge to 100% with the Tab off.
Now upon reading the instructions once more..... I might have conducted it slightly different from the written procedure.
I unplugged the Tab from the mains, then only booted up and wiped the batt stats before re-booting. Hmmm.... maybe I'll go try booting up while still plugged into the mains, do the batt stat wipe, and re-boot. (all while plugged into the mains). Then only unplug the charger.
Wonder is there any diff in doing so.....
Would definitely try re-doing it with the tab plugged in while doing the stat wipe. And if it doesn't seem to fix it, do go through a few cycles before reverting back to a previous ROM.
It's important to completely drain your battery before recharging it to 100% in order to complete a cycle.
Hope you fix it. Battery life results vary between tab's even if they are used very similarly, I'm running the OVERCOME Jupiter ROM with IMPROVED battery life. I keep my Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS on all the time. I also flash quite often and have not seen a decrease in overall battery life. It seams that each tab is a bit different, hardware wise, than one another. Everything from battery to board it seems is slightly different coming out of the manufacturing process.
Thanks. Will try that out.
But it just seems strange coming from Overcome ver 1.4 (Froyo) which had no batt drain problem.... to Hermes which was better in batt performance.... to Jupiter which I'm experiencing heavy drain.
As I did a NoWipe install, all apps and setting are similar (except the new market app).
I was able to run 2 movies back to back (about 3 hours total) and still have at least 40% life left (usually about 45 to 50%). Now on Jupiter, just fiddling around testing the various features for functionality, plus maybe an hour of NFS (total about 3 hours as well).... the batt drops to about 10% life.
Anyway, I'll re-do the calibration and and give it some time to "settle in". Hopefully, that is all that is needed. (I would hate to have to do a full wipe install... and re-installing all apps)
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Thanks. Will try that out.
But it just seems strange coming from Overcome ver 1.4 (Froyo) which had no batt drain problem.... to Hermes which was better in batt performance.... to Jupiter which I'm experiencing heavy drain.
As I did a NoWipe install, all apps and setting are similar (except the new market app).
I was able to run 2 movies back to back (about 3 hours total) and still have at least 40% life left (usually about 45 to 50%). Now on Jupiter, just fiddling around testing the various features for functionality, plus maybe an hour of NFS (total about 3 hours as well).... the batt drops to about 10% life.
Anyway, I'll re-do the calibration and and give it some time to "settle in". Hopefully, that is all that is needed. (I would hate to have to do a full wipe install... and re-installing all apps)
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As mentioned in the Tweaks section, perform the Stat wipe and then two full recharge cycle
recharge to 100% (while the Tab is closed) then drain the battery till it is off then repeat the cycle and you will enjoy it man
Please tell me if you need anything
bongski55 said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm these coding geniuses have in rolling out update after updates in the ROMS yet I am apprehensive about the effect of these frequent flashing on the Galaxy Tab components itself. This includes the battery.
My job involves electronic repair and there is a so called number of hours before an equipment goes for a thorough check(preventive maintenance) say for example 1000 hours on a meter. Unfortunately the galaxy tab (or any tablet) does not have this. So if you frequently do a flashing on your tab you subject the electronic components to unnecessary stress,thereby affecting the life of the components like the battery.
In "normal" everyday use of the tab you will seldom do any restart/reboot of your tab,yet in flashing ROMs as many as 3 reboots is needed. As I don't know how to measure the surge in current during reboot, I can just imagine how high an initial current during startup is generated, thus putting a big strain on the battery.
Unfortunately the battery is not user detachable.
There was an author here in XDA describing himself/herself as an "flashing addict"(or something similar). I would like to appeal to everyone-please don't be a flashing addict.
As for battery issue read here
JUST MY FEW CENTS!
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where you were hiding this all ? i bet you were so damn angry to say all of this , i never saw you writing more than 3-4 lines , chill out buddy .
@The OP flashing custom roms means battery need to re-life back
bongski55 said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm these coding geniuses have in rolling out update after updates in the ROMS yet I am apprehensive about the effect of these frequent flashing on the Galaxy Tab components itself. This includes the battery.
My job involves electronic repair and there is a so called number of hours before an equipment goes for a thorough check(preventive maintenance) say for example 1000 hours on a meter. Unfortunately the galaxy tab (or any tablet) does not have this. So if you frequently do a flashing on your tab you subject the electronic components to unnecessary stress,thereby affecting the life of the components like the battery.
In "normal" everyday use of the tab you will seldom do any restart/reboot of your tab,yet in flashing ROMs as many as 3 reboots is needed. As I don't know how to measure the surge in current during reboot, I can just imagine how high an initial current during startup is generated, thus putting a big strain on the battery.
Unfortunately the battery is not user detachable.
There was an author here in XDA describing himself/herself as an "flashing addict"(or something similar). I would like to appeal to everyone-please don't be a flashing addict.
As for battery issue read here
JUST MY FEW CENTS!
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Viewed purely from an engineering perspective, I'm unable to see any significant connection between the flashing of the ROM and a degradation of battery capacity. Further, in the event that the TAB was connected to a charger during the flashing, I can see absolutely no connection at all! Please help me understand your logic.
Ok Back on topic. PCdumb (dude what's with the username lol). Check your app list. It could a new app you or an old app you updated or an app you didnt use before but you use now that is being a battery hog. A small trick I learned is checking apps running services in the background. Go to Settings, applications, running services and check (why is skype working after Isigned out its not a battery drainer but I hope you got the picture).
Thanks for the advise. That was one of the 1st few things I did to check that there's nothing out of the ordinary running in the background and taking up the juice.
Mine's actually draining alot when in usage. Not too sure about when in standby.... will check later.
If after a few charge cycles and the drain is still bad, guess my only next best option is to do a full wipe, re-stock and re-install.....
I did not get any effect from Battery calibration. As expeced. Anybody did actually?
The background services instead might have an effect on power consumption, I agree. But needs numerous testing...
Batt recal did not give me better battery life. There's no difference in the battery performance after 3 recharge cycles.
My tab can at most get slightly more than 5 hours of continuous usage compared to about close to 7 hours on hermes. This is when i dial down the OC from smartass mode to conservative and also put the min freq to 200 instead of 400 which was the setting i was using all the while.
Doesn't seem to be anything else running in the background. On standby overnight, i only lose about 3% which is not too bad. But when in use, that's where the Batt drains fast. Just for comparison, i only lost 1% at most for overnight standby of about 7 hours when running hermes.
Guess I'll have to live with this if i want the speed and smoothness. Still contemplating whether to restock and do a clean flash.
PCdumb said:
Batt recal did not give me better battery life. There's no difference in the battery performance after 3 recharge cycles.
My tab can at most get slightly more than 5 hours of continuous usage compared to about close to 7 hours on hermes. This is when i dial down the OC from smartass mode to conservative and also put the min freq to 200 instead of 400 which was the setting i was using all the while.
Doesn't seem to be anything else running in the background. On standby overnight, i only lose about 3% which is not too bad. But when in use, that's where the Batt drains fast. Just for comparison, i only lost 1% at most for overnight standby of about 7 hours when running hermes.
Guess I'll have to live with this if i want the speed and smoothness. Still contemplating whether to restock and do a clean flash.
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If you want to confirm that JUPITER is the reason that you are experiencing poor battery life, try re-installing a previous version that you feel worked better for you. Maybe reverting back to a previous version may yield better battery results, and I sure hope so, this way you will know if it's the ROM or other elements affecting the abnormal battery drain.
If you do see an increase in battery life, try flashing JUPITER again, see what the results are. I don't know if flashing and re-flashing will have a negative long term effect on your SGT, I know that I flash every time a new release is out (Stock safe, cooked ROM, Kernel) and if i'm not happy with the release i go back to a proven one by flashing another three times (stock safe, cooked ROM, Kernel) and so far I have not had any (knock on wood) abnormal battery activity.
It's worth giving it a shot (if you haven't already).
EDIT: I know, I know the proper sequence is stock safe, kernel, rom.
after week of using the Overcome ROM i can confirm that the battery performance is between 85 and 90% from the Orignial stock ROM performance
No problem since this is normal as we are using a cooked ROM
bongski55 said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm these coding geniuses have in rolling out update after updates in the ROMS yet I am apprehensive about the effect of these frequent flashing on the Galaxy Tab components itself. This includes the battery.
My job involves electronic repair and there is a so called number of hours before an equipment goes for a thorough check(preventive maintenance) say for example 1000 hours on a meter. Unfortunately the galaxy tab (or any tablet) does not have this. So if you frequently do a flashing on your tab you subject the electronic components to unnecessary stress,thereby affecting the life of the components like the battery.
In "normal" everyday use of the tab you will seldom do any restart/reboot of your tab,yet in flashing ROMs as many as 3 reboots is needed. As I don't know how to measure the surge in current during reboot, I can just imagine how high an initial current during startup is generated, thus putting a big strain on the battery.
Unfortunately the battery is not user detachable.
There was an author here in XDA describing himself/herself as an "flashing addict"(or something similar). I would like to appeal to everyone-please don't be a flashing addict.
As for battery issue read here
JUST MY FEW CENTS!
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WOW ! This was an eye opener for me...
Thanks for clarifying this...... I didn't know this was so bad for the hardware ....
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PCdumb said:
Batt recal did not give me better battery life. There's no difference in the battery performance after 3 recharge cycles.
My tab can at most get slightly more than 5 hours of continuous usage compared to about close to 7 hours on hermes. This is when i dial down the OC from smartass mode to conservative and also put the min freq to 200 instead of 400 which was the setting i was using all the while.
Doesn't seem to be anything else running in the background. On standby overnight, i only lose about 3% which is not too bad. But when in use, that's where the Batt drains fast. Just for comparison, i only lost 1% at most for overnight standby of about 7 hours when running hermes.
Guess I'll have to live with this if i want the speed and smoothness. Still contemplating whether to restock and do a clean flash.
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After reading all this superb discussion....
I would just recommend you to go back to your older rom.....
Its forbthe best....
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I do get 4 to 5 hours of continuous use with overcome Jupiter, mostly browsing the web over
WLAN or umts. Hermes release didn't gave me so much more juice, probably 5 hours.
In the background I have emai push, contacts and calendar sync and some instant messaging apps, if I switch off all that I might get an hour or so more.
PCdumb said:
...On standby overnight, i only lose about 3% which is not too bad. But when in use, that's where the Batt drains fast. Just for comparison, i only lost 1% at most for overnight standby of about 7 hours when running hermes...
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Wow, maybe your tab is one of the ones with a battery from the bad batch, and it's finally on its way out. I upgraded from the stock AT&T Rom to Overcome Jupiter, and on Airplane Mode with all stock settings (no overclock or undervolt), mine only drops 1% in standby over 14 hours and I can get about 5 hours of video watching straight with the brightness on max before it dies!
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A small trick I learned is checking apps running services in the background. Go to Settings, applications, running services and check (why is skype working after Isigned out its not a battery drainer but I hope you got the picture).
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I also been experiencing a major increase in battery drain even after doing a couple wipes exactly according to the tweak guide. I went from about 24 hour normal use down to 6-8 hours normal use.
Checked the services as per your suggestion above and found a couple major battery drainers running. Skype and Yahoo but also Google+. What I dont understand is why Skype and Yahoo would be running even though I had not started either since at least several re-boots ago. I had Skype and Yahoo installed for quite a while Google+ is a new one. Anyway I killed all of them and now and will see what happens next.
Not sure thought that this is all there is to the issue. Recahrging is finiky as well. I can turn off the tab and let it charge all night just to find that it charged to about 70% if I re-plug it might charge to 90%-95% and then if re-plug it might get to 100%. The drain from 100% to 60%-70% is extremely fast and still quite fast from there. On one occasion after complete drain I couldnt get it to start charging at all for about 5-10 minutes. I was checking power, cables, connections and starting to panic when all of a sudden it started to charge.
Any advice on possible reasons or solution woud be appreciated. Not sure I want to go beck to stock ROM and un-root just to take it to service center for repairs.
Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
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letters_to_cleo said:
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
eediz said:
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
eediz said:
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
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Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always