Hello everyone, we at iBOLT (www.ibolt.co) are working on a "real" car dock for the Note II. As we are finalizing the details it would be great to have feedback and input from this knowledgeable user community. Here's some of the questions where it would be great to have some feedback on: which type of microUSB charging is optimal (fixed position or flexible so it works with cases), car mode (good or not?), wireless charging (does anyone care?), aux-out through microUSB with 9ft cord (too long?). Well, sound off and let us know and we'll read every comment Thanks!
One thing I'd be concerned with is -
does the wireless charging supply enough power for a maxed out Note 2?
i.e. screen on 100% full brightness, GPS going full tilt, CPU probably going at a healthy pace too.
We've seen a fair number of people with chargers that couldn't handle the load (i.e. their phone still drained battery even on the charger).
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
One thing I'd be concerned with is -
does the wireless charging supply enough power for a maxed out Note 2?
i.e. screen on 100% full brightness, GPS going full tilt, CPU probably going at a healthy pace too.
We've seen a fair number of people with chargers that couldn't handle the load (i.e. their phone still drained battery even on the charger).
- Frank
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Great comment. The Car Dock for Galaxy Note II must work well with thicker cases type Otterbox Commuter/Defender, Ballistic, Trident etc. It would be great to hear from users that have Qi wireless charging solutions, like the Galaxy S III solution from Verizon etc. How well does it work with cases?
I do not really understand the car dock, so also do not understand perfect?
nice, i was hoping you guys would make one for the note ii.
please have a stiff-necked cup holder version. i find them much more stable and secure. i personally have a mini cooper, and the cup holders are right in front of the console. the usb cable/aux are right behind them, so it's perfect. 9ft is definitely too long, and would just clutter up the car.
as per the connection, consider the samsung infuse route...where it snaps into the bottom of the phone. wireless charging is nice, but i wouldn't pay more than +20 bux for it.
speaking of which, please do portrait mode, not landscape. portrait is way better for navigation.
last and the least, consider changing your company name.
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wow...i'm glad that you guys are advertising here....I have never seen a better car dock before....
I have been looking for a dock that can fit my phone with the many different cases (thickness) I have, So definitely keep the "Flexible MicroUSB Arm please". I also like the idea of being able to attach it to either the windscreen or the dash.
I t would be nice to see the wireless charging feature and also one size fits all for different size phones. It would look very bad to have 2 docks in my car for both of my phone and my wife's phone.
Please let us know when the dock comes out for the note 2. Can't wait!:good::good::good:
I think the cable should be included in the dock hidden, so the bottom is not fugly with a cable in the car.
personally tbh your s3 dock is hideous, it is WAY too big and covers WAY too much of the phone. it needs to be slim and transparent, as if it were never there.
also for those who don't want a big fat suction cup on their window or dash, we would like something that attaches to any surface, or something that attaches to the vents where your aircon comes from. e.g. middle of car or on drivers side by window. so it's hiding from public and not IN YO FACE when driving :highfive:
Wow I'm glad to see you are making a car dock for the Note II. I'm deciding between the Note II and the S3, and your dock was the main one I was looking at for the S3, and was hoping there would be a good one for the Note II as well.
Liked the S3 version but still as ive read earlier Portrait mode is better in car, i always use portrait mode, and i also think you can do a fixed usb when in portrait cause then its centered when standing, also reducing stress on the usb port when putting in the charger all the time..
when in portrait, holder could also be more slimmer. personally i would like a vent holder since it wont disturb my view out.
Qi wireless charing would be a blast since i only would have to put it in the holder and my car already have Bluetooth. i would pay extra for that.
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I think the cable should be included in the dock hidden, so the bottom is not fugly with a cable in the car.
personally tbh your s3 dock is hideous, it is WAY too big and covers WAY too much of the phone. it needs to be slim and transparent, as if it were never there.
also for those who don't want a big fat suction cup on their window or dash, we would like something that attaches to any surface, or something that attaches to the vents where your aircon comes from. e.g. middle of car or on drivers side by window. so it's hiding from public and not IN YO FACE when driving :highfive:
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What? Do you even own the iBolt dock for the GS3?
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Anyways, I think the GS3 iBolt dock is awesome. I think I read this dock is made mostly to be placed on the left side of the steering wheel in landscape. This is where my past docks go and is where I think it's at it's best. I would say remove the charging LED to help reduce production cost. Everything else is great.
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Hello everyone, we at iBOLT (www.ibolt.co) are working on a "real" car dock for the Note II. As we are finalizing the details in the next days it would be great to have feedback and input from this knowledgeable user community. Here's some of the questions where it would be great to have some feedback on: which type of microUSB charging is optimal (fixed position or flexible so it works with cases), car mode (good or not?), wireless charging (does anyone care?), aux-out through microUSB with 9ft cord (too long?). Well, sound off and let us know and we'll read every comment Thanks!
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Fixed position that works with the naked phone. If it takes on holding cases it will have to much a overly big look.
I am not sure about wireless charing, I do not know how big of a gap that means there can be between the device and the source providing wireless power.
I definitely like car mode for the simple reason that is locks my phone screen on so i don't have to fumble with it when i need to use it while driving.
I personally don't use an aux out and do everything through bluetooth so I don't care for aux-out through usb.
I currently use the samsung made gs2 epic 4g touch car dock and i really like the fact that it covers pretty much 0% or the screen and it doesn't have anything that sticks out past the screen.
For me being as minimal as possible is what i look for and while still providing stiff support.
I read some people's reviews and comments saying for the S3, the power button can get knocked when driving. Is this common, or is there a way to prevent this?
Is this a problem with the Note 2, or could it maybe lay landscape the other way so the power is on the top? But then I guess you won't have access to volume controls...
Doesn't matter I guess, as this issue is probably resolved by using a case.
The issue i have with car docks, desktop docks etc and the current Note 1 (which would probably happen with the Note 2) is that you can't really place them in the dock if they have the official Samsung Folio cover. One has to remove the back cover/Folio so they can be place in the dock.
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I'd way prefer the fixed charging - I hate having to fiddle around with cables once I've put the phone in. I want to be able to just slide the phone in and have it just connect. Whether that means wireless charging or a fixed position charger doesn't matter to me though. I don't really use cases with my phones so it doesn't matter too much to me, but agree it would just add bulk to the holder if it needed to accommodate them.
Nice. The docking station for the S3 looked great. I want one for the Note II NOW!
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Nice. The docking station for the S3 looked great. I want one for the Note II NOW!
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I think so too.
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Wireless charging would be awesome! One less thing to plug in when I dock the phone. Another feature that would be perfect would be the ability to rotate the device portrait or landscape.
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Nice. The docking station for the S3 looked great. I want one for the Note II NOW!
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completely agree with you
audio out through the micro usb port is a must, but my car plugs into the 3.5mm port on the phone/whatever instead of the other way around, I'd like to not have to get a 3.5mm female - female adapter to use it in my car.
The dock absolutely MUST be designed similar to how the htc evo lte dock is set up. The thing that isn't as appealing with the sgs3 dock is that you have to plug the micro-usb connector in all the time. The best part of having a vehicle dock is being able to place the phone in the dock and go. Also, having a 3.5 jack that can output via adaptor spliced with the micro-usb connector is a must have. Obviously, it'd be ideal to also design it to accommodate those that use cases
2 car docks you can take cues from would be the original note dock and the motorola docks. Please make it happen.
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The trickiest part would be creating a dock that meshes what you did for the HTC Evo LTE dock and the Galaxy S3.
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For examples, here is the Motorola Razr Maxx Vehicle Dock:
http://media.tecca.com/2012/04/14/m...maxx-xt912m-mobile-phones-angleimage-320w.jpg
The original Note vehicle dock:
http://i2.expansys.com/img/b/224728/samsung-original-vehicle-dock-kit-for-galaxy-note-5-3.jpg
3.5mm audio adaptor/USB charger that would plug into the back of the dock and into the usb slot of a car charger
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
Now, take those concepts, add the ability to use with/without a case, and that would be the perfect dock.
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I thought I'd share this here, in case anyone is interested, and to not go off topic in this thread in the Q&A section that was interested in some detail of my build.
I couldn't find an aftermarket stereo that was as customizable, or had as many features as I'd like. My car is a 02 Mitsubishi Lancer which also is designed for a single DIN stereo, which limited my selection as well. I decided a while back that I wanted to attempt a tablet dash install, and when the Nexus 7 came out, I decided it was time to start on this project.This was my first attempt working with fiberglass, bondo, vinyl wrap, and I'm sure a few other aspects of the project I'm missing.
I failed to take pictures at all steps, as it was trial and error for awhile anyways. Here are some photos of some of the process and a parts list.
Also my Home Screens I created for this very purpose.
Parts List:
Nexus 7
4 Channel Amplifier
Four Gauge Power & Ground Wires
Speaker Wire Cable
2 RCA Plug Cable
3.5mm Stereo Male to 2RCA Male Cable
1/Female to 2/Male Y Connector Cable x 2
RCA Volume Level Control
AC Power Inverter
Car-Cigarette-Lighter-Extension Socket
Radio Wiring Harness Adapter
RadioTrim Piece
Fiberglass Resin
Fiberglass Cloth
Bondo
3M Brushed Black Metal Vinyl Wrap
Ground Loop Isolator (Optional)
Semi Finished Final Product
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RadioTrim Piece found in a junkyard that I cut the innards out of and filled with fiberglass and bondo. My car dash originally looks something like this.
So I had to create something that would house a 7" tablet, and also relocate my temperature controls.
Radio Trim Piece covered with Adhesive Promoter and paint.
Nexus 7 without Radio Trim. Backing is a piece of pegboard cut to fit in dash.
Radio Trim without tablet
Volume Control Knob
Cadence 4-Channel 1000 Watt Amp
Power Inverter
Amazing.. so I'm assuming you tether off a hot spot of some sort?
crachel said:
Amazing.. so I'm assuming you tether off a hot spot of some sort?
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Thank you, yep, I still have the original Evo 4G for my phone. I just have a tasker shortcut to toggle a Portable Hotpsot. It's only 3G but its worked pretty well so far
looks nice! the work with the fibre glass is very good!
the only issue I have is the use of an inverter, couldnt you have got a in car usb adapter? as this would mean 1 less power conversion.
Assuming you're leaving the Nexus 7 in the dash, aren't you worried about the heat?
markp1989 said:
looks nice! the work with the fibre glass is very good!
the only issue I have is the use of an inverter, couldnt you have got a in car usb adapter? as this would mean 1 less power conversion.
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Thanks, I was just going to use a USB adapter, but I tried the 3 I already owned, and none of them would register it was charging. I bought a 4th that I thought would do the job, and had the same problem. I'm sure its possible with the right charger, and I may end up switching it out later. I just ended up being impatient and went with the inverter lol.
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Assuming you're leaving the Nexus 7 in the dash, aren't you worried about the heat?
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That is a concern. It's been in the car for maybe 24 hours now and no problems yet, but I plan on running out to my car to check it on my breaks and lunch tomorrow and probably throughout the work week to see how it holds up. If it becomes an issue I may need to take it out, if the car will be sitting for long stretches of time, or find another solution.
I saw a thread awhile back where someone else bought some sun shades to try and keep the temperature down inside the car. I guess we'll see how it holds up over the next few days.
Somebody put a nook color in a ...Wrangler I want to say? He didn't seem to have any trouble leaving it in there.
Yeah, here it is.
mateorod said:
Somebody put a nook color in a ...Wrangler I want to say? He didn't seem to have any trouble leaving it in there.
Yeah, here it is.
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I think his was on a dock. I know one guy had his in a smart car as well. Here.
Looks good though. I've thought about doing it in my car with my NC.
Nice job. Looks good.
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Looks cool man
mateorod said:
Somebody put a nook color in a ...Wrangler I want to say? He didn't seem to have any trouble leaving it in there.
Yeah, here it is.
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I think his was on a dock. I know one guy had his in a smart car as well. Here.
Looks good though. I've thought about doing it in my car with my NC.
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Thanks, good to hear others havent had overheating issues with similar installations.
I've been looking into this stuff for the last couple months now and I don't think I've seen either of those two builds, thanks.
I know this instructables build and too many random YouTube videos to list on different in-dash installs is what got me finally started in on this project.
You might want to consider some kind of retractable or removable cover. Couple of reasons. One...it can keep direct sunlight off the unit. That would probably be the biggest issue with this setup. Second, it would deter theft. Generally, a thief might not risk breaking into a car to guess what's behind curtain #1...if you know what I mean. However, seeing a full blown tablet in a home made setup (e.g. not built into the vehicle/easy to steal) might be too tempting for some crack head.
Mostly blocking indirect sunlight though...
had an acer a100 perm installed in my dash for several months even here in sunny florida i only got heat warnings when the sun was directly hitting the tablet, using a windshield shade when parked was sufficient to keep the heat warnings from coming on
i'm waiting for the pogo pin dock to be released before the nexus 7 gets a spot in the dashboard, i dont want a perm install again as i like using this tablet outside of the car too
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You might want to consider some kind of retractable or removable cover. Couple of reasons. One...it can keep direct sunlight off the unit. That would probably be the biggest issue with this setup. Second, it would deter theft. Generally, a thief might not risk breaking into a car to guess what's behind curtain #1...if you know what I mean. However, seeing a full blown tablet in a home made setup (e.g. not built into the vehicle/easy to steal) might be too tempting for some crack head.
Mostly blocking indirect sunlight though...
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had an acer a100 perm installed in my dash for several months even here in sunny florida i only got heat warnings when the sun was directly hitting the tablet, using a windshield shade when parked was sufficient to keep the heat warnings from coming on
i'm waiting for the pogo pin dock to be released before the nexus 7 gets a spot in the dashboard, i dont want a perm install again as i like using this tablet outside of the car too
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Thanks for the tips, and again its good to hear these reports of other tablet installs with minimal overheating issues. I checked on it today at lunch and it was hot to the touch, but functioning fine, i believe the temperature on the tablet read 134 F..... It was maybe 80 here outside in WI today. I think I'll definitely be investing in a windshield shade to be on the safe side at the very minimum.
I have a Transformer Prime for my other tablet and at this point I was going for a perma install look, although it isn't all too difficult to remove from the dash if needed.
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Thanks for the tips, and again its good to hear these reports of other tablet installs with minimal overheating issues. I checked on it today at lunch and it was hot to the touch, but functioning fine, i believe the temperature on the tablet read 134 F..... It was maybe 80 here outside in WI today. I think I'll definitely be investing in a windshield shade to be on the safe side at the very minimum.
I have a Transformer Prime for my other tablet and at this point I was going for a perma install look, although it isn't all too difficult to remove from the dash if needed.
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Oh AHeavens, you're a neighbor then. So you know we top the hundreds a few weeks every summer. So if a 80 degree day warms the tab to 135, imagine what one of our 105 days would do to it!
Not to mention our winters where it gets to -35 to -40!
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Nice install! i've never had the courage to break out the bondo!
I've installed the Nexus 7 in my WRX too. The trick to getting USB charging to work via a cig adapter is to put a USB hub inline. I pulled apart a tomtop GPS charger and wired it into the factory stereo wiring then plugged a USB hub into it and then the N7 (and my Galaxy S3) into the hub and they both charge nicely.
Having trouble with the audio output though, it is horrible... it buzzes every time i touch the screen and it buzzes when wifi is active and it is just generally crap.
I would like to plug in a USB soundcard (DAC), something like the Fiio E10 but then i wouldn't be able to charge the tab while USB OTG is active.
I was hoping that the pogo pins on the side would allow charging whilst the USB dock connector could be used for OTG but it doesn't look like it will work since both the pogo pins and USB connector go to the same usb switch internally.
I might put up a thread on my WRX N7 install.
edit: here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
another edit: there seems to be a thread on the charging issues... i have also just found that my tab drains it's battery faster than it can charge it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791717
The ultimate car install: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0o1zkqEuec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I put my nexus 7 in my dash for 3 hours one day it turned off on me... I assume because it was too hot.
For now I remove it when I get to work and leave it in the car when I am home. I have no issues in the garage. Only problem is the place I mounted mine is a perfect fit and no room for the usb charging cable till I modify the hood but I am hoping for the pogo dock soon.
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The ultimate car install: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0o1zkqEuec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Nice!
How are they getting connected? Bluetooth, wifi tether, hotspot, ...?
when I get a car I would definitely spend the $250 bucks to have a really sexy media player in the dash
Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
I have the Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon 64gb edition. I read that it has metal weaved into the backing so I was hoping to see if it would work with magnets.
I have the iMagnet but it doesn't hold well. I holds but given my 86 CRX shakes rattles a lot, it eventually slides down and falls off.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IOQ3K6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I came across a couple other magnet docks with QI but have been wondering if anyone has tried them.
FUEL ION
http://www.amazon.com/FUEL-iON-Car-...45156&sr=8-1&keywords=magnetic+qi+car+charger
Air Dock
http://www.theairdock.com/products/air-dock
Opinions? experience? Does anyone have the units above?
windraver said:
Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
I have the Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon 64gb edition. I read that it has metal weaved into the backing so I was hoping to see if it would work with magnets.
I have the iMagnet but it doesn't hold well. I holds but given my 86 CRX shakes rattles a lot, it eventually slides down and falls off.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IOQ3K6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I came across a couple other magnet docks with QI but have been wondering if anyone has tried them.
FUEL ION
http://www.amazon.com/FUEL-iON-Car-...45156&sr=8-1&keywords=magnetic+qi+car+charger
Air Dock
http://www.theairdock.com/products/air-dock
Opinions? experience? Does anyone have the units above?
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I would love to know this too, I am looking at this phone and the fact that there is no dedicated car dock (with built in charging and/or audio is keeping me from pulling the trigger. A neat magnetic option would be great for the charging portion, then the only annoying part will be the aux cable being on the top of the phone...
Contacted Air Dock and they responded the following:
Yes we will be testing the Droid Turbo within the next week. We will announce on our website, and facebook, twitter, and Google+ when it is supported.
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I guess we'll know by next week. Instead of AUX, I'll likely go with bluetooth audio for a wire free setup.
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Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
Air Dock
www . theairdock . com /products/air-dock
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I wouldn't recommend the airdock. In would likely be okay on a desktop/table. But my nexus 5 (smaller and lighter than the droid turbo) is quite finicky on it. I backed the kickstarter and it has numerous issues. The sticky material for the mount on the glass is too thin. So it almost rips when you try to take it out of the car. The magnets help with the nexus 5, but not all qi devices have the magnets. The USB port is inexplicably on the top instead of the bottom, so the USB cable gets kinked and tends to fail. All in all it seems like it needs a full revision before it's reasonable. I wish it had a small lip on the bottom for the phone to rest against, that way the magnet/sticky plate would work just about vibration, instead of vibration + gravity. I've had my n5 fall off several times.
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windraver said:
Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
FUEL ION
www amazon com FUEL-iON-Car-Mount-Efficiently/dp/B00N5WJS4O
Opinions? experience? Does anyone have the units above?
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That is NOT a qi charger. It claims "more efficient than qi", but it's designed for their custom phone case to add wireless charging to phones that don't have it like the iphone and S4.
Looks like it is supported.
https://twitter.com/TheAirDock/status/530221593192968193/photo/1
"Ballistic Nylon holds fairly well."
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Looks like it is supported.
https://twitter.com/TheAirDock/status/530221593192968193/photo/1
"Ballistic Nylon holds fairly well."
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So Ballistic Nylon probably doesn't stick as well to the "sticky" surface the Air Dock has and is therefore rated "Fairly well"
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I wouldn't recommend the airdock. In would likely be okay on a desktop/table. But my nexus 5 (smaller and lighter than the droid turbo) is quite finicky on it. I backed the kickstarter and it has numerous issues. The sticky material for the mount on the glass is too thin. So it almost rips when you try to take it out of the car. The magnets help with the nexus 5, but not all qi devices have the magnets. The USB port is inexplicably on the top instead of the bottom, so the USB cable gets kinked and tends to fail. All in all it seems like it needs a full revision before it's reasonable. I wish it had a small lip on the bottom for the phone to rest against, that way the magnet/sticky plate would work just about vibration, instead of vibration + gravity. I've had my n5 fall off several times.
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That is NOT a qi charger. It claims "more efficient than qi", but it's designed for their custom phone case to add wireless charging to phones that don't have it like the iphone and S4.
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I know what you mean. I had the Air Dock prior and ended up breaking it when I tried to take it apart to remove a magnet that was causing my phone to lock (Moto G).
In all honestly, from taking it apart, it is basically a small QI charger with magnets lined up in 4 corners. The design is pretty poor and there is plenty of room for improvement. I'll try building my own based off that design and your idea of having a lip and loop back when I'm done.
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Looks like it is supported.
https://twitter.com/TheAirDock/status/530221593192968193/photo/1
"Ballistic Nylon holds fairly well."
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I have the Air Dock and used to use it with my Droid Maxx...but just picked up the Turbo with Ballistic Nylon this past weekend. I probably wouldn't recommend it...unless all the roads you drive on are super smooth. It holds it just fine most of the time, but if you hit any decent bumps, expect to be picking your phone up off the floor. Bumps that did not affect my Maxx on the Air Dock at all either shift or cause my Turbo to fall off. I just ordered the iOttie Easy Flex Qi Dock to replace it. It's a shame though, as I did really love it.
Also...if you do happen to go with one of the magnetic docks. Disable the Motorola Flip Case app, or else the magnets in the dock cause it to believe you have the flip case on.
I always use Pro Clip holders. I got one for my GNEX and have since stretched it to fit my new Turbo. MicroUSB charging cable built right into the console. They also offer magnetic solutions too.
AirDock has been redesigned and is in a Indiegogo campaign right now. Check out the new specs - has NFC for things like turning your Bluetooth on and off....
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock-2-0
Tzumi Magna Mount
I just bought this mount at Walmart for $10. It's on the electronics section it's called Tzumi Magna Mount. I am in no way a supporter of Walmart but this actually is a decent car mount. It's small and strong magnet held up even with my cell phone being plugged in and talking on the phone going over some of the really rough roads in Columbus Ohio and never fell off. My only question is where should I place the magnet to not interfere with the wireless charging when I set my phone on the charging station?
lutope said:
I just bought this mount at Walmart for $10. It's on the electronics section it's called Tzumi Magna Mount. I am in no way a supporter of Walmart but this actually is a decent car mount. It's small and strong magnet held up even with my cell phone being plugged in and talking on the phone going over some of the really rough roads in Columbus Ohio and never fell off. My only question is where should I place the magnet to not interfere with the wireless charging when I set my phone on the charging station?
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Interesting!
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magna-Mount/46444865
Tzumi Magna Mount Universal Mount for Automobile
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To answer your question, the Qi circuitry is about 2/3 the way down the back of the phone. It's not centered in the back, it's somewhere in the lower third. That's why the triple coil Qi chargers work very well, because they hit the charging spot no matter how placed.
For single coil charger, you have to place the phone very off center.
Anyway put this magnet in the UPPER 1/3 of the phone to leave the bottom third free for the Qi charger.
Does anyone have one of these and if so has anyone used with their S6 edge? I just ordered one with the CD mount and think it would be an awesome car dock for the S6 edge. If you haven't heard of it, it is a car dock with qi wireless charging and built in micro magnetic technology of some sort that holds the phone in place. Very slick and minimal for the most part.
I'm not brave enough to use it for my device, but if there was ever a surface that it should be ideal for holding it's the S6's. Let us know how well it works with yours.
Sounds nice but the way I drive there's no way it could work.
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I am interested in how you get on - I am thinking of ordering one myself but reviews of the 2.0 version are few and far between.
It's not micro magnets btw - the magnet part is a normal magnet in the mount and they include a magnetic sticker you put on the back of your phone. Without the sticker the magnets do nothing, but I think this is only needed for phones with a rough rear texture (or phones with covers on - I presume it would work with the sticker on the inside of the cover instead).
For phones with a flat smooth back, it works with the "micro suction foam" which looks similar to the clingo sticky surface. I am hoping with the Edge this will be sufficient.
Though I haven't decided if I will be using the phone with a case or not yet, and the case I have ordered to use for now is transparent - so there is no chance I am putting the sticker on in that case. It seems like a shame to use a case where I can't see the glass back (or indeed, it seems a shame to use a case at all!). First world problems...
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Does anyone have one of these and if so has anyone used with their S6 edge? ........
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So I ordered this during their Indiegogo campaign earlier this winter and received mine last month. When I tried using it with the S5 I was greatly disappointed. It would not stick with the spigen case I had, so I had to carry that phone without a case and it still wouldn't stay on the dock. It just kept on falling off with the slightest bump in the road. I guess I could have tried the magnetic sticker they send you but I knew that I wasn't going to have the S5 for much longer.....
Well the S6 edge has a perfectly flat back, so it sits on the airdock 2.0 perfectly. I haven't taken it on an off road trip but with normal city road bumps it hasn't fallen off once. The wireless charging function is now much faster, so in my opinion, this dock is a must have if you are looking for an elegant solution for charging/ and holding your S6 in your car, especially if you like to look at your phone (or have others look at your phone screen GPS, etc...)
Just make sure you order the correct suction cup and base for it. I had a bamboo flat internal surface and the long flexible mount for smooth surfaces didn't work. Good thing I ordered the standard mount for textured surfaces as well.
The NFC function in the airdock 2.0 is interesting and using tagwriter you can easily program it. I programmed it to launch tunein to stream internet radio on car... However, the nfc chip just keeps beeping, and it keeps trying to launch the app. So I turned it off and don't use it. Haven't tried another app to see if I have better luck. Will have to troubleshoot this sometime..
Strongly recommend this despite the NFC trouble.
Thanks for the great review. I finally got hands on with the s6 edge today at my best buy and the back does seem like it should work great with the air dock. I also ordered a bunch of sleek cases and hope (I always buy cases but never keep them on) the cases will work with the dock. I got the CD mount as with my car it's the only great spot available seeing how i hate windshield and dash mount. My dock just shipped and I'm like a kid in the candy store checking shipment status every hour.
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I also ordered a bunch of sleek cases and hope (I always buy cases but never keep them on) the cases will work with the dock. I got the CD mount as with my car it's the only great spot available seeing how i hate windshield and dash mount. My dock just shipped and I'm like a kid in the candy store checking shipment status every hour.
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So... what I just read was "I also ordered a bunch of steak cases and hope the cases will work with the dock."
Time for a nap already
Poetique said:
So... what I just read was "I also ordered a bunch of steak cases and hope the cases will work with the dock."
Time for a nap already
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Correct. I get so excited when a new phone launches so I just buy accessories to fill the void but then leave them behind because I like my phone like my wife...naked!
$85? I have made my own Qi charging car solutions for 2 years now using ProClip and a TechMount Qi charger. Total price for both is well under $85, and works for all phones, even those without magnets strong enough. e.g., my Nexus 5 (strong magnet), NExus 6, Note 4 and now the S6E.
I'd try the airdock, but $85 is a little silly.
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$85? I have made my own Qi charging car solutions for 2 years now using ProClip and a TechMount Qi charger. Total price for both is well under $85, and works for all phones, even those without magnets strong enough. e.g., my Nexus 5 (strong magnet), NExus 6, Note 4 and now the S6E.
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That's nice and all, but how well does your phone stay charged when you use GPS and stream music using data? I reviewed a Qi car dock once that wouldn't charge up my S4 with just the screen staying on, let along actually using the device for battery intensive activities. What are your experiences with the S6E charging on this dock with anything more than keeping the screen off?
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That's nice and all, but how well does your phone stay charged when you use GPS and stream music using data? I reviewed a Qi car dock once that wouldn't charge up my S4 with just the screen staying on, let along actually using the device for battery intensive activities. What are your experiences with the S6E charging on this dock with anything more than keeping the screen off?
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Depends on the phone. Depends on the screen really. I always have google maps going for traffic, and an mp3 player. The Nexus 5 would always hold a steady charge. The Nexus 6 would drain. Note 4 would drain, but slower than the Nexus 6. The S6E is stable.
I have automateit automatically dim my screen and turn off wifi when it senses a BT connection to my cars. I can't speak to your S4 or other "battery intensive activities" but I've had this setup in multiple cars with multiple phones for 50k+ miles. I stopped using the built in navigation in any of my cars since I now exclusively use google maps, it's always qi docked.
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Depends on the phone. Depends on the screen really. I always have google maps going for traffic, and an mp3 player. The Nexus 5 would always hold a steady charge. The Nexus 6 would drain. Note 4 would drain, but slower than the Nexus 6. The S6E is stable.
I have automateit automatically dim my screen and turn off wifi when it senses a BT connection to my cars. I can't speak to your S4 or other "battery intensive activities" but I've had this setup in multiple cars with multiple phones for 50k+ miles. I stopped using the built in navigation in any of my cars since I now exclusively use google maps, it's always qi docked.
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Yeah I couldn't live with "stable," with as much as I drive and use the phone in the car, I can't have a phone with 15% battery stay where it's at. I currently use a wired setup with a powerful 4.2A dual USB charger and watch the numbers climb with the phone doing navigation, talking on it / streaming music, and other activities that would normally chew through a battery being wirelessly charged - but that you had good luck with it, is good and maybe I'm the only one who can't get it to work! :good:
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Yeah I couldn't live with "stable," with as much as I drive and use the phone in the car, I can't have a phone with 15% battery stay where it's at. I currently use a wired setup with a powerful 4.2A dual USB charger and watch the numbers climb with the phone doing navigation, talking on it / streaming music, and other activities that would normally chew through a battery being wirelessly charged - but that you had good luck with it, is good and maybe I'm the only one who can't get it to work! :good:
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nah, it's not just you man. It's these big phablets and how much juice their screens take up. The Nexus 6 was outrageous. Yet another reason the phablets were not for me. I liked the Note 4 way better than the Nexus 6, but neither of them did anything for me.
I have the original Air Dock, not the 2.0. (Actually, I have the Galaxy S4 version. Just magnets in different places, I think.) I have a Spigen Slim Armor case with kickstand. It all works great! Amazingly, the Air Dock holds the phone in the case very well. Charges through it just fine. I think the Spigen case might actually have a coil inside it to transfer the charge from a Qi charger through to the phone.
Playing music, screen on, navigating... still net positive charging.
The only thing that doesn't really work well is the magnet sticker from Air Dock. I put it in between the two parts of the case, but it still doesn't really attract it into position when I put it need the Air Dock. Not that big a deal.
Well got my air dock 2.0 and love it!!! Works great with my sleek Rinkge fusion case on it and sticks perfectly. Best car dock I've ever used and seen
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Well got my air dock 2.0 and love it!!! Works great with my sleek Rinkge fusion case on it and sticks perfectly. Best car dock I've ever used and seen
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That's great news, thanks for letting us know. Did you need to use the magnet sticker?
Nope, work's great on its own
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Nope, work's great on its own
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Mind posting pics? Would love to see in action.
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It the airdock really worth double the price of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Qi-infinity-3...p/B00N4H1R1M/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
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It the airdock really worth double the price of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Qi-infinity-3...p/B00N4H1R1M/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
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I think so. It's personal preference, but I used to have a car dock/holder that had adjustable sides and I hated it. I love the way the Air Dock holds the device in place.
The back story ->
I have an old Nokia Wireless Charging Car Dock and love it. SO much so that I made it work with my sammy devices using a heat gun to bend some of the plastic. Coming into the new devices and wireless standards, I wanted to keep with the same trend and update/ upgrade. Got ahold of the Samsung Wireless charger and had no reason to upgrade the nokia since the charging was the same. In comes the Samsung Wireless Fast Charger and wanting it in the truck. So, I went to work on a teardown of all my gear (again) and here is the insides for you folks. I included the Platinum 12v Car Qualcomm Fast Charger 2.0 since it is what I am using in there with it.
I have a Note5 and an S6 Edge+ so I can verify it IS faster.
I can't see, I'm blind, lol.
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HOW TO TEARDOWN -
Using a regular + screwdriver, you can move the rubber on both sides of the rubber on the bottom of the charger. There are just 2 screws there.
Once they are unscrewed, flip over the charger and turn the top part of the charger counter clockwise. It should then lift right off.
Now that the top is removed, there are 5 screws holding the middle section to the base. Remove them.
Base should now easily lift away from the middle section.
Flip over the middle section and you have an additional 5 screws to remove.
Now to fully remove the electronics from the unit. You would need a Heat Gun and a Soldering iron if you planned on keeping it in a warrantable state. Otherwise, just use a heat gun and a pair of wire cutters.
I used the heat gun to remove the coil from the frame as well as the ribbon cable LED daughter board. Then using the cutters, cut the section where the LED was out as to not have desolder the coil.
DONE.
As for the car charger, I used a knife and some pressure on the seams. "POP' in 4 places and I was done. Desoldered the 2 grounds and 1 positive. Soldered up some red and black 14gauge lead wires and I am off to install in the truck.
I didn't put the Nokia modification up since I doubt there is any interest. Basically I gutted it, Used a heat gun and bent the arms in a manner that would hold my devices and allow for the thicker electronics. Then used some moldable plastic (polymorph) to make a BASE for the electronics to screw into / secure it. I had already added a Ram Ball mount to it so reassembly and plugging it back in were all that was needed. - Overly simplified explanation -
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I can't see, I'm blind, lol.
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Check the 3rd post. I just 'dumped' the pictures here and will reorganize later.
The 12v charger and the 120v charger have the same output specs with the exception of the 12v output on the car charger. Have had this setup working for over a week now without fail or issue/. The second one is for a 'STEALTH' install on a piece of vehicle trim. When I am navigating, or using Torque app, I keep the device in the Car dock under the rearview. Just driving around, I set it behind my shifter where I put another charging pad under it. Just waiting for my Micro Suction tape to use as a pad so it doesn't move around.
Great pics, sounds like something id do but my Grand Cherokee has nowhere "extra" i could place my ohone onto a hidden qi charger.
You know they make much smaller dash cams right? (Sorry, had to).
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Great pics, sounds like something id do but my Grand Cherokee has nowhere "extra" i could place my ohone onto a hidden qi charger.
You know they make much smaller dash cams right? (Sorry, had to).
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I know with the dash cam. It is multi purpose. I like for people to know they are being video'd, especially LEO. then I remove it and use it for other activities.
Thank you for posting this! It inspired me to try taking my wireless charger apart and intergrating it into my car.
Unfortunately I only had the "regular" (non-fast) Samsung wireless charger for my Note 5 and didn't get very far. When I removed the silicone and stickers on the back and front, I couldn't find any screws!
I think I saw the regular Samsung wireless charger in one of your pictures, have you tried taking it apart and do you have any tips?
Thanks again for posting this, the pictures and instructions made a very nice tutorial
(attached below are pictures of my wireless charger without silicone/stickers)
Not joking here. I just sold that unit yesterday. Have you tried looking in that single cylindrical hole on the bottom? Or try holding the unit in between both hands and turning opposite directions?
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Not joking here. I just sold that unit yesterday. Have you tried looking in that single cylindrical hole on the bottom? Or try holding the unit in between both hands and turning opposite directions?
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Wow, talk about bad timing. Thanks for the suggestions.
I checked the small hole in the bottom, and there is no screw there either, just a nice view of the board beneath.
I also tried twisting the unit in opposite directions and nothing seems to move. I could try putting it in a vise but it was already difficult to grasp the bottom to twist, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get any more leverage.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for the regular wireless charger? I've been thinking how nice it would be to have the fast charging version anyway, now there might be an additional benefit of being able to open it easily.
Sold it to a buddy for 20, he wanted a fast charger too so I sold that to him for 25 and a cable. ~$45 and a handshake.
I got a deal from a retailer that was hesitant on getting them in stock. I put in on 4 of them and paid less than $100USD for them all combined.
If your device supports the fast charging wirelessly, I would recommend in the investment. Check amazon, bestbuy, and all the normal big box places for "black friday/cyber monday" weekend deals.
Worst case with your current one, pry it open or use a dremmel.
THOUGHT on the vise. Put it horizontal instead of vertical. That way the cylindrical disk will split as you tighten it. All the internals should be fine. Or do it in that manner to gain access to a spot where a flat head will have purchase for prying.
You can buy raw charging boards without a case on amazon for like 12 bucks.
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You can buy raw charging boards without a case on amazon for like 12 bucks.
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The samsung fast wireless boards? Got a link for that?
Couldn't figure out search parameters that yielded me that.
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Wow, talk about bad timing. Thanks for the suggestions.
I checked the small hole in the bottom, and there is no screw there either, just a nice view of the board beneath.
I also tried twisting the unit in opposite directions and nothing seems to move. I could try putting it in a vise but it was already difficult to grasp the bottom to twist, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get any more leverage.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for the regular wireless charger? I've been thinking how nice it would be to have the fast charging version anyway, now there might be an additional benefit of being able to open it easily.
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Hi! Sorry for revive this... Any luck opening it? I´m in the same boat here
The LEDs are driving me crazy at night. Just fixed the Fast charger thanks to this thread, but the regular one is resisting haha
EP-PG920I teardown
If it's the newer pad, you do twist to open. I took apart for the same reason. I have a S7 Edge and no point in using a fast charger on my night stand.
The top twist counter clockwise. Attached is a photo with the notch.
Once open, there are 4 screws on the inside and then the bottom comes off.
There are 2 bulbs and access is not great but you can get to them and eliminate or black out.
If you have any other questions, let me know. I have the newer pad, the newer fast charge pad and the new fast charging stand.
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If it's the newer pad, you do twist to open. I took apart for the same reason. I have a S7 Edge and no point in using a fast charger on my night stand.
The top twist counter clockwise. Attached is a photo with the notch.
Once open, there are 4 screws on the inside and then the bottom comes off.
There are 2 bulbs and access is not great but you can get to them and eliminate or black out.
If you have any other questions, let me know. I have the newer pad, the newer fast charge pad and the new fast charging stand.
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Its really hard isnt it? can´t easily turn it counter clockwise.. its slippery and hard.
Any tip?
Thanks again!
anyone already try new wireless charging solution by Nillkin?
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seems very good to me :good:
http://nillkin.org/accessories/chargers/nillkin-magic-tags-type-c-wireless-charging-receiver
If you have to connect something to charge, what's the difference between this and just connecting it normally without losing DASH charging?
maybe you just come home and put your phone on to wireless charging dock instead desk. And you dont care how long it will take to charge. I was on wireless charging on my previos phone (Nexus5) and it was perfect for me it feels good forget about charging.
I thought that I'd miss wireless charging, especially since I invested in Qi chargers in the house and cars but I found dash charge to be a LOT more convenient.
Same here. I thought I would miss qi charging, but I've been okay without it. I bought a couple USB-C docks for my nightstand and work desk. I'm not using dash charge on them but it charges quickly enough without it.
Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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want to order one tonight. i noticed the tag has adhesive. is it strong? id hate to gunk up the back of my phone.
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want to order one tonight. i noticed the tag has adhesive. is it strong? id hate to gunk up the back of my phone.
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There is only one small strip (2cm x 0.5cm) of some sort of 3M adhesive. I haven't bothered taking the protective layer off to try it since it will be underneath a case and I anticipate having to move it to access the USB port anyways as I mentioned.
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There is only one small strip (2cm x 0.5cm) of some sort of 3M adhesive. I haven't bothered taking the protective layer off to try it since it will be underneath a case and I anticipate having to move it to access the USB port anyways as I mentioned.
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ok cool so it stays stable under the case without the adhesive. just ordered one. dash is great but the convenience of dropping my phone on a pad at night is great
Usability
Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Depends on the case.I'll be putting mine between the phone and case. Its trial and error with thickness .though the manufacturer says i think like .2mm I'll leave it in all the time.kind of like a dust cover too
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Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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I got my hands on an ordinary flat charging pad and the phone properly charges positioned pretty much anywhere on the pad.
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Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Cases typically aren't thick enough to prevent the system from charging unless the distance and position of the coils is already at its limit, like with my upright charging docks which were made with smaller phones in mind. Nicer and newer chargers will have multiple coils for better coverage. Case materials like metal however will prevent all charging through them, which is why wireless charging and NFC has been excluded from many recent phones. Increasing distance does decrease the efficiency but probably not to a significant amount in this scenario.
Certain cases will have tighter tolerances for fitting this device underneath than others. I would say the pad gets about as thick as a US quarter in the middle. You also need enough space around the USB port for the plug and ribbon cable. I will try the stock OnePlus 3 sandstone case once it arrives, but my current $3 clear vinyl case is fine, just a bit wobbly when laying on a flat surface.
Are you able to use the USB type c cable when you have the adapter installed?
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Are you able to use the USB type c cable when you have the adapter installed?
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You'll have to unplug it
got my adapter on Thursday.Got married Sunday and was out of town and in hotels for a few days so i got some good testing time with this. it works great. im using it with an anker qi charger. i have it behind a rubber case and i have no problems with it. it charges slow obviously but its stupid easy and at least with the anker qi charger there is a big sweet spot.
I must be missing something but this thing seems to me to be a power pack that you plug in via the sub port, however small.
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I must be missing something but this thing seems to me to be a power pack that you plug in via the sub port, however small.
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It's a Qi compliant inductive coil for wireless charging
Ahhh. I though this small metal strip was all you needed. Should have paid more attention to it.
Just wanted to confirm that this wireless charging pad fits fine underneath the official Sandstone case from OnePlus. You will still have to remove the case to remove the plug to access the USB C slot, but other than that it works just fine.
Complete utter rubbish based on what it actually does:
1. Charges at only ~650 mAh rate (slow to hell, my USB PC & Laptop & Tiny client is faster then this, I can get up to 1400mAh with my set up(s) if not using DASH charge).
2. Can not plug OTG-USB, connect to a PC at will or use DASH charge if not removed.
3. Not all protective cases are ok with this external QI pad.
Based only on these 3, it's a complete fail...... and so on... until it is a complete and utter fail yet again.
Verdict: a total waste of money.