Who will make my next phone? - Off-topic

Hey all.
Basically i just want to hear all your thoughts on your current devices, and what you think of the next device in that product family.
My thoughts.
My first android device was the Motorola defy which really sold android for me, the fact i could treat a phone horribly by accident and it not care was a really solid selling point. The developer community for it was really quite strong too, it even receiving CM10 before my current S2.
The original transformer isn't the prettiest, lightest and fastest tablet anymore (not that it was ever lightest SO MUCH GLASS) but it was and is my first tablet and still works amazingly today. Good job Asus.
My current phone is the Samsung Galaxy S 2 which i bought outright after everyone that had one giving raving reviews and a quick view of the forum showed a very active community. Little did i know the issues the developers faced to get the aosp roms working properly, it is not pretty and it is entirely the fault of Samsung and their hardware partners (I am looking at you, yamaha). I know this and love the developers for supporting my S2 so well, especially codeworkx whom has been moving devices lately.
I love the idea of getting the S3, but i would only be going for the larger screen and if all i want is the larger screen why not go even larger and get the Note 2? Especially after its drop test video. It is a tank of a phone.
The One X+ Kind of interests me with unlocked bootloaders etc. But the fact i have to flash the kernel separately to the ROM every time (or at least that is my understanding) would really annoy me.
After the defy i would rush to a unlocked bootloader on a Motorola. That and screen size were the only issues i had with my defy.
But my current plan runs out in December which is only a few months away and i would love some ideas on devices coming into Christmas season.
Currently i am thinking Note 2, but i don't want to have half baked aosp roms because of hardware support. Ideas?
And yes doing a BYO 6 month plan with my local carrier is an option.

How bout this one?
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orangekid said:
How bout this one?
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Although super durable i am not sure it would have all the features i am after. And look at that screen, tiny!

HTC 100% of the time.
There are some really cool devs and contributors who have written apps and scripts that enable you to flash everything all at once, kernel included.
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I have the SGSIII and the One X. In the case of the One X (not the One X+ but it's basically a refresh of the One X) yes, you do have to extract and flash the boot.img via your pc using fastboot and the flash the modules via recovery...not as bad as it sounds. It's a great phone.
The SGSIII not only has a bigger screen but a higher resolution than the SGSII. There are many ROMs for it and in the case of the US variants I've flashed ROMs made for the AT&T variant on my T-Mobile one. (The international version also has great development.)
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tommytomatoe said:
HTC 100% of the time.
There are some really cool devs and contributors who have written apps and scripts that enable you to flash everything all at once, kernel included.
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Hey Tommy thanks for the reply, i take it your experience is from the EVO?
Thanks Babydoll one of my friends has the one x which i rooted/cm10ed for him the other day, it was an interesting look into HTC custom roms and i must say it is not overly difficult or anything. And i did see the scripts Tommy was talking about, they would be nice in easing the transition. How do you find the one x build quality? I heard it was hit and miss between users.

yay101 said:
Hey Tommy thanks for the reply, i take it your experience is from the EVO?
Thanks Babydoll one of my friends has the one x which i rooted/cm10ed for him the other day, it was an interesting look into HTC custom roms and i must say it is not overly difficult or anything. And i did see the scripts Tommy was talking about, they would be nice in easing the transition. How do you find the one x build quality? I heard it was hit and miss between users.
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I have a HT23 which is one of the earlier batches and I have no issues. No Wi-Fi attenuation, no screen flicker, nothing wrong at all with my device.
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Evo og and Evo LTE. Also had an Evo 3d for a brief time.
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I also had the (original) Samsung Galaxy Note. I really loved that phone. I only sold it because the eMMC brick bug got on my nerves.
I still miss that phone. I am getting the Note II.
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Babydoll25 said:
I also had the (original) Samsung Galaxy Note. I really loved that phone. I only sold it because the eMMC brick bug got on my nerves.
I still miss that phone. I am getting the Note II.
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That's the reason why you sold it? You could have flashed a safe kernel. Done.

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Which Phone Should I Get?

I have around $250 to spend on a used phone. Please don't suggest any upcoming phones or that I should wait, only what's listed in the poll. I'm looking for something that wont be too ancient by next year, software and hardware wise. Basically an all around best phone . Software upgrading is pretty important as well as hardware. If there is something not up there, that you feel needs to be suggested, for my price range please tell me Thanks in advance!
The ZTE Blade (or Orange San Francisco as its known in the uk) looks a fairly decent spec to say its a cheap phone. Not sure about updates though.
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The ZTE Blade (or Orange San Francisco as its known in the uk) looks a fairly decent spec to say its a cheap phone. Not sure about updates though.
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There is brilliant support for it over at MoDaCo!
They have FroYo and recovery on it.
I paid $255 on eBay for my Samsung captivate. It took me a week or so to find the right auction but that was including shipping when other phones like it were selling for $400.
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Hate to say this but the best Androids are the flagship lines and HTC.
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Captivate would be your best bet, for that price range at least..
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Go to marketplace section and get one of the hot deals found there!
If you are lucky you can get even a Tmobile HD2 for that cash
I would choose an HTC definetly
a HTC Desire, hands down.. I my opinion its better then SHS (have used it for 3 days, returned it).. and now cant live without out it!
I think you should look at phones rom potential before you choose. Make sure your phone is well supported and with the stuff you like. Secondly make sure your phone has a quality build. HTC as other people have said makes great phones. Samsung makes great hardware but make sure you flash any Samsung product you get with a rom or you'll hate the phone. For instance I didn't care much for my captivate until I flashed it. It was buggy and poorly supported. New rom made it rock solid. Thanks XDA
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If you can find an unlocked HD2, you can use it on AT&T, but only on edge speeds. Tons of support for the HD2, but the X10 is doing pretty well on getting an Android 2.2 build.
I have an X10 running XFree Beta 2.2 it is quite decent but still lacking. Or so I think it is lacking. It is my first android device (other then idroid on my iphone 3g). I got it cause it was free and seemed like a good choice at the time. The X10 devs have been pretty quick to patch and update as of late. But I have only had the phone for ~2 months. I am looking to buy a captivate so I can compare. Till then you'll have to take this with a grain of salt. It seems like there are more devs for the captivate.
Thats my .02
DO NOT get a samsung if you want updates or support or want to install custom roms. I would look into HTC that would be your best bet
HTC Incredible OMFGB 2.3.1
jaysckap said:
DO NOT get a samsung if you want updates or support or want to install custom roms. I would look into HTC that would be your best bet
HTC Incredible OMFGB 2.3.1
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Why do you say "want to install custom roms"? There are plenty available?
jaysckap said:
DO NOT get a samsung if you want updates or support or want to install custom roms. I would look into HTC that would be your best bet
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=706
The Captivate section begs to differ on custom roms.
Although the lack of updates is pretty true.
Im just not a fan of samsung at all i dont like the way they treat their customers i know a few people that have samsung and regret getting them just my personal opinion
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=706
The Captivate section begs to differ on custom roms.
Although the lack of updates is pretty true.
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HTC Incredible OMFGB 2.3.1

Phone

Hey, I'm thinking of buying this phone, but does anybody know if its likely to get the android 4.0 update? Is it capable of it?
Thanks
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Let me put it this way.
We're waiting for 2.3 since July.
By the time we get it there will be probably 5.
Shame because the hardware its good.
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Jordanooo said:
Hey, I'm thinking of buying this phone, but does anybody know if its likely to get the android 4.0 update? Is it capable of it?
Thanks
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To be fair, with same specs and price, I'd go for Nexus S. Can't see your country but roam the android threads, MIUI and CM threads to see what's good for your money with great dev support and ROM variations.
I'm giving you my 2 cents for that.
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if you're expecting some Ice Cream in this device, forget it
it'll be already melted when it releashed by the way
The hardware is good. Yes we are dissapointed by the proper LG 2.3 firmware they promise to release but you can use CM7 as an alternative - IMO CM7 is much better.
Well if you just think only and only about ICS then go for nexus s.
But just think aside for a while.... and here you go
- With optimus black you get a great looking phone with slim and sexy built. Compared it. With thick nexus s and you will see the difference.
- with optimus black you get the best and the brightest display in the world. I know a new Nokia device is going to have 1000nits brightness but its a 3. 5" device... and the smaller the screen size its easy to bright it up. But for a 4" display our optimus black is still the best and brightest display in world.
- with optimus black you also get memory card facility... especially useful if you need to exchange card with friends on occasions. And tremendously tremendously helpful when you get out on a tour... just Leo two three 8 gb cards and you can shoot as many photos as you wish record as many videos as you wish. While with nexus s you will have to rush to a cyber cafe to empty your internal memory into a pen drive or dvd.
... so in short in my honest opinion you stocks buy optimus black. Trust me with cyanogen mod and perhaps with help of any developer around here we will surely get ICS. sooner or later. It debt affect tbe use power of the phone to that extent as you think. Consider this again mate.
Thanks everyone, I think I will go for this phone as I like the look of it. I have cyanogen on my current phone (galaxy 5, £50 phone) and that's made 2.3 available, so 4.0 should be able to go on the black.
Does this phone have any specific developer working on cyanogen?
If not, I know one I could request to try to do cyanogen for this phone?
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There is Cyanogen mod in progress already for OB. Nearly done by the sound of out.
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Dont buy it! You will regret it, the chances of getting ICS are none. I really regret not buying the nexus s and i wouldnt have bought this one in june if i'd knew it wouldnt have gingerbread until 2012, cause lets face it, we wont get gingerbread this year, not a chance. I even recommend you to get an SE xperia Arc as they are cheaper now, at least in sweden, an SE is nowadays much better with updates. Still nexus s is the best alternative.
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And the cyanogenmod is far from complete. Read the thread about it, dont trust those recommending this phone, they just dont want to admit to themselves that it was a bad purchase, you know, nobody wants to drink alone.
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dont by any lg mobile they give great hardware with less price but software support sukssssssssss there UI and rom is not attractive as compare to other better go for Motorola or Sony Ericsson and check this out
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darn it
maybe LG should change their name into
LS : Life's Sucks
dont buy lg any more!!pls beg u!!m stuck with froyo from aprill knowing that we will get gingerbread soon!!and even now its not ready !!get sony ericsson cuz thier customer service is extremely good now a days!!no more lg for me!!regretting!!
I agree with that the customer service isn't good with LG but... hey ! We have a good hardware and you are talking like if froyo is the worth thing ever !! We are lucky to have some development and Cyanogen let us have Gingerbread and maybe later ICS.
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Yeah, it looks a good phone. I mean, they managed to get gingerbread to my current phone which I thought was a miracle (has very little ram) so this should be able to get ics one way or another
But its in consideration anyway
Thanks for the comments so far, and I welcome more opinions to this phone
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I don't recommend it, that's why I sold my Optimus Black. I had a problem with my phones and in all firmwares I tried I encountered a lot of annoying bugs, like battery drain, GSM/3G problems, wifi couldn't connect to an enterprise signal... all the uses I'd give to an smartphone were gone with it, so thats why I sold it.
Really, I was happier with my old Iphone 2G. It had some crappy features, but did all the things I wanted.
My recommendation: buy another device, specially an SonyEricsson or HTC. They are serious brands.
Of if you like to have Ice Cream Sandwich for sure and quick, but a Nexus device.
Regards

[Q] Galaxy SII or Galaxy Note?

Yo!
So, i'm looking for a new phone to buy but i can't decide between the Galaxy SII (the white one which IMO looks hawt) and the Galaxy Note.
I can't decide if i want a 5,3" screen or 4,3". I know, it's stupid not to go for the 5,3" screen, but i'm not sure on size of the device itself.
What whould you buy? (Btw, is the Note's bootloader open/crackable?)
(Mods, i know i'm in the wrong area with this post, but i want to check what my homies here @ Off-topic think)
Either way your getting an absolute f******g beast of a device....
Not sure if the note would be just that little bit too big for a phone but I havent handled one so I can't really comment...
The white one looks putrid though (jm2c)
Yeah i know! But i've tested the Galaxy S WiFi 5" and it's huge, and the Note is even bigger BUT it's way way thinner, so.. i don't know! But.. but.. just LOOK at that screen!
I've got the S2 and absolutely love it, but I would (after a try) probably swap for a Note if I could, so I voted for that.
Either way mate, like Conan said you're getting a BEAST! Get one of each and then give me the one you decide not to keep
Even tho i think the note is WAY WAY WAY TOO BIG!!!
I voted for it as it is faster
Hmm, looks like the Note will be my new device! The only thing i'll have to do now is to wait...
It's not released here yet.. Booo!
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i'd have gone for a Galaxy Note, if they made it for the Tmo USA AWS 1700/2100 network
Yup, i'm super into the Note now after reading Engadget's review and watching a lot of YouTube videos. I must have it! Come to papa!
Either is great but the Note has a Pentile screen so some say white looks green especially whe magnified (Best iimage I can currently find) But either choice is awesome
(Also below only shows a SGS1,)
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Also
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1319022037
Because we are talking about a Super AMOLED display and not a Super AMOLED Plus, the display is based on a so-called PenTile pixel structure, where pixels share subpixels. A PenTile OLED panel was recently introduced with the Samsung Galaxy Note, and we were not impressed. In real world PenTile means loss of details and sharpness, as well as a bluish/greenish tint around letters (depending on the background color). See how it looked on the Galaxy Note in the picture below.
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Either of them are way better than my current phone (htc wildfire), but if I were you I would get the Note
Galaxy Note for Far!!!!
Note is a DII bigger and with Stylus!!
I don't care about the stylus, and i bet i'll never use it, but that screen... fap fap
But yeah, Note it is! Just have to wait a couple of weeks.
Darn!! Too late for my opinion
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Galaxy note
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Note.
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S2, it fits in your pocket!
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Got my Note yesterday. It's awesome and it fits easily in my pocket
Actually, yes it can. Don't know if you've tried to hold it, but if you have "normal" man hands it'll work fine. I can do most things with one hand except writing on the keyboard.
And remember that the Note is only 9mm thick, so it slides easily into the pocket
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Note. Pipsqueak has spoken.
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The Note is far far too big for a phone IMO, the SGSII is the right size

Wheres the Development??

Hi, I really love this tablet lineup alot. I have the tf300t and it has alot of Developer Support. I love this brand specifically because it allows me to type up school related documents when I need to and has an awesome battery life. I wanted to get the TF701, but it seems completely empty on the developer support. Why is this? Is it a crappy tablet? Does no one care about this tablet anymore?
If this isn't a suggested tablet, what is a suggested one that has a keyboard with it?
royredman said:
Hi, I really love this tablet lineup alot. I have the tf300t and it has alot of Developer Support. I love this brand specifically because it allows me to type up school related documents when I need to and has an awesome battery life. I wanted to get the TF701, but it seems completely empty on the developer support. Why is this? Is it a crappy tablet? Does no one care about this tablet anymore?
If this isn't a suggested tablet, what is a suggested one that has a keyboard with it?
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This tablet is good. It may not be the best but people complain about everything even though ALIENS MADE IT!
Just look at all the complaints below this thread. They killed it. End of story.
No I dont know really. I think the developement is has been quite good so far. It might not be busy here but that could change.
I'm here.
New CROMBi-kk in the works for this weekend hopefully
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I'm here.
New CROMBi-kk in the works for this weekend hopefully
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Hey man, I seriously am so appreciative for all you work man. I used CROMI-X all the time on my tf300t. Your Rom and the AOSP roms motivated me to stay with the tf300t. You have done an awesome job and I appreciate all your time with your ROMS.
I guess I have gotten spoiled with having the opportunity of tasting all the different Roms Available for devices like the the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S4 and the TF300t.
I was just curious if the lack of developers on this tablet made me think there was a serious issue with the tablet.
Now doing some research, even the Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet doesn't have much developer support either even after being so popular.
royredman said:
Hey man, I seriously am so appreciative for all you work man. I used CROMI-X all the time on my tf300t. Your Rom and the AOSP roms motivated me to stay with the tf300t. You have done an awesome job and I appreciate all your time with your ROMS.
I guess I have gotten spoiled with having the opportunity of tasting all the different Roms Available for devices like the the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S4 and the TF300t.
I was just curious if the lack of developers on this tablet made me think there was a serious issue with the tablet.
Now doing some research, even the Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet doesn't have much developer support either even after being so popular.
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And that's exactly it: The TF701 and the Z2 may just be so good on stock that there is very little demand for development. Any market is ruled by demand and supply - even free one's [emoji189]
berndblb said:
And that's exactly it: The TF701 and the Z2 may just be so good on stock that there is very little demand for development. Any market is ruled by demand and supply - even free one's [emoji189]
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I agree, that TF701 performs pretty darn well with the stock rom. While the TF700 begged for custom roms (to solve issues like the need to turn off FSYNC), it took me a lot longer to unlock the device and install the customized sbdags version. His version is awesome, but I agree that the need is not as apparent as it was on previous devices, presumably because the hardware is better.
That being said, it also seems like the user base for the TF701 is not quite there either....
Maybe cause the 701T just came out recently?
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I wonder if it might be also because the tegra 3 has been around since the tf300? along with the nexus 7. So they had something to work from. I dont know if that has anything to do with it though.
Stock when rooted is just so good, for me at least. I would hate to lose the productivity apps built into the stock Rom if I change it.
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Stock when rooted is just so good, for me at least. I would hate to lose the productivity apps built into the stock Rom if I change it.
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Yes I was wondering if we could get that color adjustment tool(splendid?) to work as well.
Theres sbdags App installer remover as well. Cant recall what apps could be installed and working for cm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2650721
YayYouFixedIt said:
Yes I was wondering if we could get that color adjustment tool(splendid?) to work as well.
Theres sbdags App installer remover as well. Cant recall what apps could be installed and working for cm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2650721
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Sbdags is a God, there is no question about it. His efforts and those of the other developers are the reasons Android is so great.
I wonder if the custom rooms have this feature present in the stock Rom where I could just bring up floating apps by just clicking the button on the left.
P.S. Don't know why the attached screenshot is blurry. It is clear when viewed through the gallery.
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CROMi-X has all of those: Splendid, Pop-up apps, dock works perfectly......
There have been PAC nighties for a while. I just came across them by checking their site. Don't know why there's no thread. It's pretty good.

note 3 vs s5

Got a guy that wants to trade his note 3 for my s5. What do you guys think?
I would do it in a heartbeat!!!
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Same boat note 3 or iPhone 5s they wanna trade me 4 my rose gold s5
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Rose gold s5 + sd card or high quality SD card is a good trade
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This what I have 2 offer them.. What should be my best trade to do... A note 3,htc one m8,iphone 5s....
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Note 3 hands down.
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Lol OK Ty for input
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No problem. You enjoy it... Especially with a custom rom
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That's my main reason for wanting to be rid of the s5 no root no roms and doesn't look like it gonna happen anytime soon
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Yea, Android is making it extremely hard with each release to root. Eventually, it's not even worth it
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Yea that's for sure but that was what the biggest appeal to me I know we I could get elsewhere and be stuck with what they gave me but with Android it was open and could truly make it mine not just another same old phone that the person next to me has
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Right. What carrier are you on?
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Att unfortunately
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I recommend vision-x or x-note roms
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Just my 2 cents..... I would highly recommend the HTC M8. I had the S5 for 3 days, took it back and got the M8 and LOVE IT! I have had a couple Samsung devices (S3, Tab 3) and was really looking forward to the S5, but the no-root/locked AT&T bootloader was a deal breaker for me.
Went with the HTC and have no regrets. Love the Sense 6 interface and you can customize anything, in terms of graphically. Have experienced zero lag, hiccups or any other glitches that are inherent with Touchwiz systems (typically).
The Note 3 is a nice device too, but rather big for my taste. The m8 is sleek and I like the metal body vs the plastic samsung has been using for the past couple years.
Again, just my input from someone who left my tried and true Samsung s3 (and briefly S5).
^^ Good post. However, the Note 3 still reigns supreme.
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You could trade if the person is willing to add some cash to it as well. But personally i prefer the S5.
Not sure where the idea of Android being harder to root comes from. Google is removing holes in the firmware but with unlockable bootloaders rooting is easy. It's Samsung and their obsession with locking and encrypting their bootloaders that make it hard. I have A Sony Z ultra and it was fairly easy to root of you are willing to lose your warranty. Same with the M8 anything but Verizon.
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_Dennis_ said:
Not sure where the idea of Android being harder to root comes from. Google is removing holes in the firmware but with unlockable bootloaders rooting is easy. It's Samsung and their obsession with locking and encrypting their bootloaders that make it hard. I have A Sony Z ultra and it was fairly easy to root of you are willing to lose your warranty. Same with the M8 anything but Verizon.
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Unfortunately it's at&t & other carriers that requested the locked bootloader. They're really going after corporate customers hence the added security. T-Mo knows they don't really have a shot at the big accounts & therefore don't care about the bootloader.
Root is really what matters to me but it's a lot riskier without nandroid backups. I'm still using my T-Mo Note 3 for that reason. My S5 is a Samsung sponsored demo but if I could, I would trade it for a T-Mo version. Almost feels like a waste of time transferring everything & giving up root when I'll have the Note 4 in a few months.
bigfdaddy2 said:
That's my main reason for wanting to be rid of the s5 no root no roms and doesn't look like it gonna happen anytime soon
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You do realize that the main reason for this ATT only situation is that ATT locks down the boatloader?
The S5 certainly has root and many custom ROMs available if you start out with a S5 sold by another carrier. One pragmatic solution is to buy your S5 elsewhere e.g. TMB and have it unlocked. Then you can use it on ATT complete with a rooted, custom ROM.

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