NEXUS 4 Camera Issue.. Same as Iphone5 - Nexus 4 General

Looks like I might be canceling my orderdue to the purple glaze effect which the Iphone5 had. As camera is a important aspecr for me.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/26791...fers_the_same_iphone_5_purple_haze/index.html
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Update: yup. You guys are right. Its just a phone. And no. I dont take pictures of my food. Lol. I was expecting too much for a 300 dollar device. And no phone is perfect in every way. I do have a dslr, but I wont be carrying that with me 24/7. So sometimes you have to use your phone to freeze that perfect moment.
I was not trying to convince anybody to not get the phone. I was simply trying to get the fact out in case it does bother anyone.
My nexus will be arriving in a few days.

So one image of bright lights means it's a problem huh? Jesus...

Your purchase or lack thereof will be sorely missed.
(dibs on this guys canceled order!!)

I always thought that was the JJ Abrams light flare edition camera....
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milkisgood123 said:
Your purchase or lack thereof will be sorely missed.
(dibs on this guys canceled order!!)
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Crap, beat me to it!
It only says in certain lighting conditions. Not necessarily a big deal for me.

tian105 said:
Looks like I might be canceling my orderdue to the purple glaze effect which the Iphone5 had. As camera is a important aspecr for me.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/26791...fers_the_same_iphone_5_purple_haze/index.html
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This thing isn't an issue. I currently have the iPhone 5 on my sprint account and the pictures come out great with rarely any purple haze. To each his own but to not buy a phone because of this slight issue is crazy.
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Do people use their phones for quality pictures?

Venekor said:
Do people use their phones for quality pictures?
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When people take pics of their food and coffee to upload to instagram, they expect nothing but perfection
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What, not a Jimi Hendrix fan?!

You should at least try it. If you just rely on review every time, you won't but anything. I was afraid that this phone wouldn't be a real upgrade (i had a galaxy nexus). But the hardware is really good and the reactivity of the device is just amazing.
I would consider give it a try, you can always send it back if you want to and get a refund.
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Ehmmm, have you tried to photograph something different from a turned on lamp?

I just tries taking a similar picture. I don't get that :/ there's just a little purple bit next to the light on the top. Look at the attachment.
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u guys using it wrong :laugh:

Finding a reason to hate the phone because you couldn't get one? Kinda bitter...

All phone cameras get this AFAIK. It's bright lights that do it. Some do it more than others, but they all do it to some degree.

I don't have that issue...but if it means that much to you, then just go buy a dedicated camera and use it.
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raze599 said:
I just tries taking a similar picture. I don't get that :/ there's just a little purple bit next to the light on the top. Look at the attachment.
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Every phone has it. You just cant see it always
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Bull****. Mine Galaxy nexus and previous Galaxy S2 didn't have such issues at all. Camera supposed to be premium I'm paying for high end phone class at least.
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Even reflex objective suffer some purple fringing at max aperture in direct sunlight, and some of them cost more than the n4.
I don't even know why people should bother about this, just learn to move when make a photo and don't make direct light photos...

Test
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Stare at a bright light for 1 min without blinking... do you see a purple haze? Bright lights stress optics this is nothing new use a filter.

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[Q] Camera Quality?

I thought the reviews were just being harsh, but after playing with the HD at the store, the camera is really disappointing. Especially compared to the other options out there (HTC One X). Any chance these short comings can be fixed with a OTA update? Or does the camera suffer for a cheaper price point?
I have been getting pretty decent and good pictures. But then again I am no photographer
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I have been getting pretty decent and good pictures. But then again I am no photographer
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That's good to know. Maybe it was just the lighting in the store or an effect someone had put it on. Thanks mqguitar!
It could have been here are some quick pictures I took without adjusting and doing quickly. I will take some more with macro too also. Hope this helps
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The Camera Quality looks good to me. It's a lot better than the Atrix 2's 8MP Camera.
Image quality has been better than I expected from the reviews - I think it's usable and I'm into photography (of course, for nice pics I'll use a real camera).
Its about as good side by side with the s3 just has a blue tint to everything
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Cam is fine for me!
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I ended up getting the HD and I agree with all of you. The camera really is not bad at all. It is much better than the demo model I used in the store. I wonder what the issue was. Either way I am very happy with my purchase. Thanks for sharing some of your shots too!
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I ended up getting the HD and I agree with all of you. The camera really is not bad at all. It is much better than the demo model I used in the store. I wonder what the issue was. Either way I am very happy with my purchase. Thanks for sharing some of your shots too!
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Have fun!
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epribs said:
I ended up getting the HD and I agree with all of you. The camera really is not bad at all. It is much better than the demo model I used in the store. I wonder what the issue was. Either way I am very happy with my purchase. Thanks for sharing some of your shots too!
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Its the lighting in AT&T stores. It looks bright because of the stores themes bright orange and Blue death star. You'll really come to notice that the lights are dimmed a little just so the screens look nice and it's harder to see all the scratches left by people who played with the demo model.
The Camera is really effected by lighting, but it can be fixed with some of the camera's built in pre-settings.
Besides, the trend is instagram these days. Blurry out of focus over saturated pictures are the popular thing now. *shakes head and shrugs*

Camera S_cks!

Comparing my camera to the Note 2, men this camera sucks, its to slow.
BTW i only play with it like 5 minutes, maybe it needs settings to be set...
BUT! if you hit sport mode or any mode, flash wont work? wtf?
Any help?
rockypr said:
Comparing my camera to the Note 2, men this camera sucks, its to slow.
BTW i only play with it like 5 minutes, maybe it needs settings to be set...
BUT! if you hit sport mode or any mode, flash wont work? wtf?
Any help?
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Your kidding me right? The camera is amazing, its not even comparable :what:
The quality is outstanding and the colors are just so vibrant. Completely wrecks my S3.
Well think about how would flash work with the modes that take multiple shots and/or combine them? Obviously those special settings wouldn't be optimal in low light settings where flash is necessary.
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The number one reason I upgraded over my HTC Evo 4G LTE was for the better camera in the S4, specifically outdoor/daylight. And I've been testing the heck out of it. Takes spectacular pictures! I'm very happy with the camera. Sport mode works great for non-blurry images of fast moving objects, too. Flash only works in a couple of modes, but that makes sense given most of the modes it's not available in.
inlineboy said:
Your kidding me right? The camera is amazing, its not even comparable :what:
The quality is outstanding and the colors are just so vibrant. Completely wrecks my S3.
Well think about how would flash work with the modes that take multiple shots and/or combine them? Obviously those special settings wouldn't be optimal in low light settings where flash is necessary.
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I found it slow at first, then i turn on Sport Mode and its pretty fast. I think it all depends on the configuration of the Mode you have ON.
Man I haven't touched the settings at all, besides in noticed that it wasn't set to 13 megapixels at first. Which I thought that was strange. But I think the camera is the best I've used so far.
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Man I haven't touched the settings at all, besides in noticed that it wasn't set to 13 megapixels at first. Which I thought that was strange. But I think the camera is the best I've used so far.
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maaaaaan I had no idea it wasn't set to 13, and I thought the pictures were great already! You made my night
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Thanks for the 13megapxirl tip
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Dumb question to the Op, but you did take the sticker of the lens didn't you? It comes shipped with a stupid (hard to get off) sticker on the lens with a cutout circle that partially occludes it.
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JasonJoel said:
Dumb question to the Op, but you did take the sticker of the lens didn't you? It comes shipped with a stupid (hard to get off) sticker on the lens with a cutout circle that partially occludes it.
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My mind has been blown tonight. First the MP setting now this. I thought it looked out of place but I didn't wanna mess anything up trying to scratch it off
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Low light pictures still suck compared to htc one
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I liked this comparison:
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57581522-85/samsung-galaxy-s4-shootout-versus-htc-one-iphone-5/
Some others:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/22096/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-htc-one-camera
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/92...sunggalaxys4-vs-htcone-vs-iphone5-vs-lumia920
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/0...alaxy-s4-vs-htc-one-vs-iphone-5-vs-lumia-920/
eyecon82 said:
Low light pictures still suck compared to htc one
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The One's camera is 4mp ultra pixel. It's specifically made for low light.
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SAShady said:
The One's camera is 4mp ultra pixel. It's specifically made for low light.
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Actually. It's a 8.1. They took two 4mp sensors and stacked them
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maaaaaan I had no idea it wasn't set to 13, and I thought the pictures were great already! You made my night
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Haha yours wasn't set to 13 either? That's strange it would be like like out of the box. Welcome, enjoy!
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My mind has been blown tonight. First the MP setting now this. I thought it looked out of place but I didn't wanna mess anything up trying to scratch it off
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Haha I did notice this myself 2 days after having the device.
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Actually. It's a 8.1. They took two 4mp sensors and stacked them
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You're close. The pixels are actually twice the size and the sensor itself is the same size as most 8mp and even some 13mp sensors - it only has a maximum 4mp resolution output though which makes it a 4 megapixel camera.
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You're close. The pixels are actually twice the size and the sensor itself is the same size as most 8mp and even some 13mp sensors - it only has a maximum 4mp resolution output though which makes it a 4 megapixel camera.
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Which makes for great smaller pictures, but once you start blowing them up is when you start to notice it's downfall
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My thing is after us finding out that the camera is not defaulted to 13 megapixels, I question the validity of any of these comparison reviews because for all we know they are shooting pictures while still on 8 megapixels
Dumb question but how do we change the mega pixels in the camera. I am struggling to find this setting.
Duh. Nvm found it.
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I am going to leave some shots using HTC one default settings for you all to compare. I do agree that the only benefit HTC one camera is low light pics. Don't have any low light pics I can share.
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I wish it had a zero shutter lag like they promised
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small blue dot only on camera

hello everyone. had the one for 3 weeks now. I just noticed a very small blue dot almost at the center of my screen when taking pics or recording videos. I could only see it on camera mode though. on home screen it does not appear. ran dead pixel test and did not find anything. I been searching forums and found nothing similiar . I'm debating on returning it or is there a fix for this. I'm completely stock, unrooted for now.
Is it in your photos?
Yes. I just tried it.
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If u look at the same spot where the dot is and compare it to the app drawer, u can't see it.
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Just curious here but does it show on both front and back camera's or just one?
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Just on the rear facing one. I hope it's a software issue, not hardware . I don't want a refurbished one.
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Just on the rear facing one. I hope it's a software issue, not hardware . I don't want a refurbished one.
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At this stage, you likely won't get a refurb.
That said, it looks like your camera actually has a dead sensor. Not sure what, if anything, you can do to try to clear it up short of taking in the phone.
It obviously isn't the screen.
Ya, I am no genius on this subject by no means but that pixel would be considered stuck instead of a dead pixel. If it is on the software end of things then going through the various colorize settings in that particular camera mode and taking snapshots may release it. Maybe even a factory reset may release it back to normal.
Then again it may be a warning sign that that pixel is about to go dead too I guess. I really hope you get this cleared up for sure and I for one would be very curious as to just what is going on here. Thanks.
Edit: referring to the camera may have a dead sensor as said above, I would have thought that it would have shown that way with recording too. Maybe not though...
Thanks guys I'll try to take it back as soon as I can
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My HTC One has the exact same issue but it's on the very edge of the screen so much less offensive then where yours is.
It's a hot pixel on the camera sensor that only shows up when the ISO is cranked up. For DSLR's, software (at the factory or even on camera) is used to "map out" these hot pixels. Perhaps we have something similar on our phones that can be accessed.. have you tried a hard reset?
Blue dot
Yeah I recently purchased mine but unlocked and I have the same problem, seems to happen when it is on high ISO. I was reading into the hot pixel thing which happens in other cameras, but they say they go away but can persist. I am debating to wait or exchange it, but these phones are back-ordered :/
Considering that your hot pixel is near the center of the screen, I would consider exchanging it (if possible). While it's true that they can sometimes go away on their own, my experience (with DSLR's at least) has led me to not rely on this happening (I have a few hot pixels on my DSLR that have appeared and NOT gone away in the last few years).
I have a similar problem I have a little green dot on the corner of my screen
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Sprint tech dicking me around

Brought my phone in for the dreaded purple hue in low light camera situations. Left it there and went to do some errands while they inspected it. Long story short I go back and he claims that corrosion in the headphone jack caused it. Then says he fixed it by blowing air in there and factory resetting it (I had run the ruu prior to bringing it in.) I grab the phone and go into camera and hold my hand up to the lens and bam still there. He then says "oh. That was the problem with the camera?" To which I responded with yes. And confirms that his claim of supposed corrosion is not the cause.
My question is this: did this tech flag the phone as internally damaged on my account and now I'm f'd and have to pay deductible for an obvious warranty issue or should I definitely take it to a different store?
Thanks
He could have flagged it but the flag is only good for 30 days if he did flag it. The system they use is called eticket. Without know the ticket number it would be very difficult for us to look past 30 days. So if you want it replaced them have the same store do it since they know what they did. If you don't want to deal with their dumbasses again then wait 30 days and go to another store. If you are still having issues then don't go to corporate stores. From my experience your chances of getting a complete **** are a lot higher at corporate locations.
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He could not have used eticket if it had corrosion. If it had corrosion, he would have told you to go through asurion because of water damage. He probably didn't even put a ticket through. Call CS and see if there's any notes.
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He could have flagged it but the flag is only good for 30 days if he did flag it. The system they use is called eticket. Without know the ticket number it would be very difficult for us to look past 30 days. So if you want it replaced them have the same store do it since they know what they did. If you don't want to deal with their dumbasses again then wait 30 days and go to another store. If you are still having issues then don't go to corporate stores. From my experience your chances of getting a complete **** are a lot higher at corporate locations.
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Went to a different store today after work. Replaced phone. Same issue on new one so they are ordering another. Crossing fingers that one is good. They told me its software. Yeah OK.
I've gone through 7 HTC ones. And every single one of them had the camera blue/purple tent during low light situations. I just deal with it. I dont think I've ever seen a one not give that effect..
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tsdeaton said:
I've gone through 7 HTC ones. And every single one of them had the camera blue/purple tent during low light situations. I just deal with it. I dont think I've ever seen a one not give that effect..
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The red display model at my local store did not have this problem. It was .2 version of software though.
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The red display model at my local store did not have this problem. It was .2 version of software though.
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Haha interesting. I have the red model but haven't tested out the cam yet. Just traded it in the other day so it would match the HTC flip cover. I don't have the purple/blue effect anymore wow this is the first I've seen
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tsdeaton said:
I've gone through 7 HTC ones. And every single one of them had the camera blue/purple tent during low light situations. I just deal with it. I dont think I've ever seen a one not give that effect..
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Dang, you're One unlucky person. Pun intended. In all seriousness the tint on my HTC One is only around the edges. When it is practically pitch black it will cover the whole screen. So, there re some good ones out there.
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Haha interesting. I have the red model but haven't tested out the cam yet. Just traded it in the other day so it would match the HTC flip cover. I don't have the purple/blue effect anymore wow this is the first I've seen
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How did you go about trading it in?
When the red one came out HTC championship website was giving them away for people that wanted to trade in their current phone. My coworker had a gs3. They gave full trade value. She didn't want the red one but got it for me. I gave her my black One.
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I've gone through 7 HTC ones. And every single one of them had the camera blue/purple tent during low light situations. I just deal with it. I dont think I've ever seen a one not give that effect..
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My first One didn't have the tint, but something got behind the lens and ruined every picture. It took Sprint 6 hours to determine that it in fact wasn't a scratch on the lens. My refurbished One has the tint but I don't really give a ****. Low light pictures on a smartphone typically ain't gonna be good anyway.
Well damn this thread is totally misleading based on the title ....geez ..
Haha Naw but yeah mine has that bloody low light issue but I made my peace ...if I can put up with the first evo camera ,I can put up with this anyday ..so ..bring it on HTC ..BRINGITON!!!
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For those coming from the galaxy line.

What made you choose this phone over the Galaxy S5?
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I've had every Galaxy since the very first one to the GS4 and I wanted to try something different and I am GLAD I did!! Even little things like just holding the phone in your hand it is so well made, and it is FAST!! As far as the camera complaints I DO NOT see what these people are talking about because I think the camera is GREAT!!! Unless you plan on using the camera as a wedding photographer then maybe not,lol. But I highly recommend this phone.
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Since the original EVO I have had nothing but the Galaxy line till now. The main thing holding me back from the M7 was the lack of a SD card but the M8 has one so I decided to try it out. First thing I have noticed is the build quality. The M8 feels like a work of art and my S4 (after a few months) was developing bubbles under the glass and the battery case was scratched and worn away in some place. I don't see that happening here but time will tell. The boom sound speakers are also a huge plus. I used to have to cup my hand around the rear speaker on the S4 when showing someone a video. No longer. These speakers sound great and are loud. The camera has also been really fun. I'm not sure what the complaints are all about but the picture quality has been great and dual lens make for some really cool effects. I'm sure down the line there will be some cool camera apps on the market that will even add to the dual lens. The battery life has been great too. Unplug in the morning and plug in at night with plenty of battery life left. I wasn't too impressed with the launcher or Blinkfeed so I just switched to the Google now launcher and it works fine. I'm also looking forward to try out new Roms and the future of development for this phone. As of now I am very happy with the change.
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I've had every Galaxy since the very first one to the GS4 and I wanted to try something different and I am GLAD I did!! Even little things like just holding the phone in your hand it is so well made, and it is FAST!! As far as the camera complaints I DO NOT see what these people are talking about because I think the camera is GREAT!!! Unless you plan on using the camera as a wedding photographer then maybe not,lol. But I highly recommend this phone.
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We both share the same reason. Plus I'm sick of the ugly cartoon look of touch wiz. This ui is so clean
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The camera on this is perfectly fine I see nothing wrong with it
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We both share the same reason. Plus I'm sick of the ugly cartoon look of touch wiz. This ui is so clean
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I always thought touchwiz was designed by children. I mean, what company uses those colors and a 'water drop' sound for touch sounds? There are a few features I miss though, like swipe to call/text in contacts and led notification while charging. I'm pretty happy with the m8 though.
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I always thought touchwiz was designed by children. I mean, what company uses those colors and a 'water drop' sound for touch sounds? There are a few features I miss though, like swipe to call/text in contacts and led notification while charging. I'm pretty happy with the m8 though.
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My friend brought the s5 and is pissed on how ugly the ui still is. I kinda miss all them gimmicks but now I think about it. I really didn't use them. Like all them fancy camera features that I'm sure no one used after the first few hours of using the phone. I'm happy with my choice.
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Well I feel like this phone has everything that a person would use on a daily basis tw is too bloated for my taste now sense has enough features to make me happy i had my s4 6 or so and I had to get something else and I am extremely glad i did
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Coming from an s3. The s5 was an aesthetic let down, looks like a band-aid. The M8 was a clear choice minutes after their unpacked event.
I had a note 3 which I sold and got the M8. I got a little tired of the huge screen, and could not justify purchasing a smaller version of the same phone. Only thing is I am having a real hard time getting used to the on screen buttons leading to a huge bottom bezel. I am working on getting pie controls and removing the soft keys to see how it works out.
However, having a metal phone is WORLDS better than plastic. I dont use cases on my devices and I just like to pick up the phone to feel it sometimes. Pie controls - soft keys will make this the best phone ever made.
aaron130 said:
I've had every Galaxy since the very first one to the GS4 and I wanted to try something different and I am GLAD I did!! Even little things like just holding the phone in your hand it is so well made, and it is FAST!! As far as the camera complaints I DO NOT see what these people are talking about because I think the camera is GREAT!!! Unless you plan on using the camera as a wedding photographer then maybe not,lol. But I highly recommend this phone.
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Pretty much this. Had the OG Epic and the GS3. Wanted something different, plus the front speakers and having the charging and headphone jacks on the same end were huge selling points for me. Was leary off the camera, but so far it's great. 4mp is plenty for regular 4x6 prints. Those high mega pixels are really only better if you plan on blowing up pictures to poster size. And I would imagine, that if you were in need of pictures for something like that, you'd want to use an actual camera and not a phone camera of any type....lol
Only complaint I really have are the amount of useless icons in the status bar. What a mess! Hopefully that is something that can be fixed with future software updates. I couldn't care less about the spark icon, and do we really need a constant GPS icon whether it's on or off? Dumb...
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Yea, I've never seen such a cluttered status bar.
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Yea, I've never seen such a cluttered status bar.
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I can't stand that bar either
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Major complaint for me. The phone don't display the location of the area code you're calling or being called from. I really miss that feature hopefully HTC will give that back to us
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aaron130 said:
I've had every Galaxy since the very first one to the GS4 and I wanted to try something different and I am GLAD I did!! Even little things like just holding the phone in your hand it is so well made, and it is FAST!! As far as the camera complaints I DO NOT see what these people are talking about because I think the camera is GREAT!!! Unless you plan on using the camera as a wedding photographer then maybe not,lol. But I highly recommend this phone.
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I was going to pretty much post the exact same thing you did lol but you saved me from having to do I hit the thanks button
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Ahhhh....status bar off peace. Those feels when you're status bar is no longer cluttered. Thank you Viper Rom!
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i started out with htc's after jumping from blackberry while back went with samsung for yrs after the evo 3d last samsung owned was the note 3 which i felt had no good roms felt like samsung was dead. HTC from what i can remember always had great dev's and constant roms so i jumped back so far was a good choice less gimmicks just a great phone
I'm so sick of TW I decided to come back to HTC. I don't want to have to root and go to AOSP if I choose not. TW is such a hog and visual abortion that I couldn't in good conscience go to the band aid phone from my S4.
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