[Q] Buying AT&T Lumia 920 and immediately paying ETF - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Lumia-920-Windows-Phone/dp/B00A2V7BA4/
So amazon is selling the 920 for $0.01... if I wanted to use this on StraightTalk, I could just buy this and then immediately pay Amazon's $325 early termination fee to get out of the contract. That would be cheaper than just buying the phone off-contract from AT&T / Microsoft store for $450. Any flaws in this plan of mine?
EDIT: I wouldn't have to pay a separate ETF to AT&T as well would I?

EDIT: I wouldn't have to pay a separate ETF to AT&T as well would I?
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Yup, you would. There's a $325 ETF to Amazon and a $300 ETF to AT&T.

wyvphone said:
Yup, you would. There's a $325 ETF to Amazon and a $300 ETF to AT&T.
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Ah jeez, too good to be true. Thanks for the quick reply!

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[OLD NEWS] HD7S with 2-yr only $0.01 on AT&T.

as the title says...
AT&T is offering the HTC HD7S for only $0.01, today, with a new 2-year contract.
source. at&t wireless
via wmpoweruser
sh4d0w86.
sh4d0w86 said:
as the title says...
AT&T is offering the HTC HD7S for only $0.01, today, with a new 2-year contract.
source. at&t wireless
via wmpoweruser
sh4d0w86.
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LOL HTChd7 or HD7S ???
xiaobai522 said:
LOL HTChd7 or HD7S ???
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i am unsure of why you are confused...
i never made the mistake of saying an HD7 instead of HD7S.
sh4d0w86.
Dang, is it the same price for add a line?
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wizziletizzle said:
Dang, is it the same price for add a line?
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i am not positive, but i believe the pricing is only for new 2-yr contracts only.
sh4d0w86.
wizziletizzle said:
Dang, is it the same price for add a line?
sent from my TI-83, rooted.
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I believe so ass adding a new line is technically a 2-year agreement.
I actually took this as my upgrade. I'm very excited.
Yeah, I ordered this phone two days ago around 8, woke up the next morning and it was already shipped out.
sent from my TI-83, rooted.
idk how att works but with tmobile it is always best to purchase an upgrade to the newest phone available. then sell that phone at full price which always is near $500. with that money buy a used HD7S and keep some cash in ur pocket. just a tip, i used to have a little cellphone business on craigslist before the economy went in the pooper.
chrisizzle492 said:
idk how att works but with tmobile it is always best to purchase an upgrade to the newest phone available. then sell that phone at full price which always is near $500. with that money buy a used HD7S and keep some cash in ur pocket. just a tip, i used to have a little cellphone business on craigslist before the economy went in the pooper.
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I completely agree. I do business on craigslist all the time.

Sprint Announces HTC One Availability: $199, Pre-Orders Start Friday

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ders-start-friday-phone-available-april-19th/
I am buying this off contract so i went on chat to ask how much it would be off contract and was told MSRP is 549.00-350=199. I was thinking 600 to 700 but I am happy to pay 550 for this beauty. I cannot wait to get my grubby hands on it.
I probably need to buy off contract as well. I wonder if RadioShack will honor the $10 off w/$50 Google Play card on off contract? Otherwise hopefully Amazon has a good off contract price since zero tax+shipping.
rank78 said:
I probably need to buy off contract as well. I wonder if RadioShack will honor the $10 off w/$50 Google Play card on off contract? Otherwise hopefully Amazon has a good off contract price since zero tax+shipping.
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I was just wondering the same thing about radio shack but it even says with two year contract on the sign but maybe I could talk someone into it.
This problem should not exist, I also have used
I still have until next Jan until I'm eligible for an upgrade again.
If I buy off contract -- do I have to pay out my existing contract?
exSD said:
I still have until next Jan until I'm eligible for an upgrade again.
If I buy off contract -- do I have to pay out my existing contract?
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No, that's only if you want your device upgrade immediately. If you buy off contract now you will still have your upgrade next Jan.
rank78 said:
No, that's only if you want your device upgrade immediately. If you buy off contract now you will still have your upgrade next Jan.
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Even if it's for the same line/number?
I would be replacing my Evo LTE with the One so if I buy off contract I get to keep my Jan upgrade contract on the same line?
Interesting.
exSD said:
Even if it's for the same line/number?
I would be replacing my Evo LTE with the One so if I buy off contract I get to keep my Jan upgrade contract on the same line?
Interesting.
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The way I understand it is as long as its the same line/number, yes. I don't know how ETF, early termination fees, come into the equation. ETF applies if you are cancelling your plan contract. Since you're just buying a new phone off contract but keeping your plan, which is what I'm doing, then you shouldn't be penalized or lose your Jan upgrade.
rank78 said:
The way I understand it is as long as its the same line/number, yes. I don't know how ETF, early termination fees, come into the equation. ETF applies if you are cancelling your plan contract. Since you're just buying a new phone off contract but keeping your plan, which is what I'm doing, then you shouldn't be penalized or lose your Jan upgrade.
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Yes, that is correct. The only time you'd lose your "upgrade" is if you buy a subsidized phone and sign a 2-year contract. You can swap to phones that you own anytime, just so long as you continue paying for the plan that you're currently on contract for.
If you wanted to upgrade early (buy a phone at the subsidized cost and sign a 2-year contract), then you're have to pay out your existing contract to allow upgrade eligibility.

[Q] Moto X off contract?

I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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DarkVasyaK said:
I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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i literally just got back from the ATT store, they wouldn't sell it to me without an ATT account
The regular price is showing $579.99 on AT&T's web site. That is way too much for the phone considering the Nexus 4 is $350 and can be used on T-mobile without any contracts. If you really want this phone then I would say walk into a AT&T store and see what they can do. Even though you don't have a SSN there may be special exemptions for students.
That's really hard to consider Moto X over SGS4 Google Play edition considering the same price, and people say the camera is really bad
Will have to take a look at Moto X in store today
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DarkVasyaK said:
and people say the camera is really bad
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"people" say a lot.
anotherdroid said:
"people" say a lot.
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Look at the review samples or even the "photos" thread here in the X general forum.
You can sign the contracts without SSN, all you need to do is pay a $500 security deposit, they will return it to you within a year if you pay your monthly fee on time.
DarkVasyaK said:
I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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I went into my local AT&T this morning trying to buy one off contract. They couldn't get the transaction to process though so the manager called support and was told that Motorola/Google are not allowing the Moto X to be sold off contract at launch.
Yeah, they told me that they won't sell it off contract for the first month
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i bought mine sort of off-contract. but, instead a month-to-month "contract". pretty sure it would be pointless to buy this phone outright from AT&T. it's entirely locked down to AT&T. until someone proves otherwise, i'm unsure this "GSM" phone will work off their network.
i could be way off...
anotherdroid said:
i bought mine sort of off-contract. but, instead a month-to-month "contract". pretty sure it would be pointless to buy this phone outright from AT&T. it's entirely locked down to AT&T. until someone proves otherwise, i'm unsure this "GSM" phone will work off their network.
i could be way off...
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so how do I get them to do this? just say I want to use this month to month can I please buy this phone?
I'm on the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan. I was able to walk in buy one no commitment with no questions asked.
05GT said:
I'm on the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan. I was able to walk in buy one no commitment with no questions asked.
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did you pay full $579 retail?
fitchpuckman said:
did you pay full $579 retail?
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Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
05GT said:
Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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awesome. thanks for the info!
unbelieveably it is vailable in Future shop, Canad off the contract. I got mine on the release day. Even the future shop sales rep was shocked that usually system would not allow him to sell outright at least for a month...
lensgrabber said:
The regular price is showing $579.99 on AT&T's web site. That is way too much for the phone considering the Nexus 4 is $350 and can be used on T-mobile without any contracts. If you really want this phone then I would say walk into a AT&T store and see what they can do. Even though you don't have a SSN there may be special exemptions for students.
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Not sure if you can get it without a contract, but I paid full price (I and under contract for another year and not yet eligible for an upgrade). I paid full retail, which in the store rang up as $540. Not sure why, since the web site shows $579.00, but I won't complain about saving $40.
BTW - the store I went to said they wont stock 32GB versions in store, they will need to be ordered online. I bought a black 16GB Moto X.
So if I walked into an AT&T store and buy their Moto X full price, will they let me unlock it to use it on T Mobile?
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Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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That's cuz yous a bawlin' G.
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I Am Marino said:
So if I walked into an AT&T store and buy their Moto X full price, will they let me unlock it to use it on T Mobile?
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I called GoPhone customer service and they gave me the unlock code.

Will the american Nexus 6 be unlocked?

Do you think the american Nexus 6 will be unlocked even when bought on contract? Sometime similar to how all Verizon's devices come unlocked??
The Nexus has never been locked even on carrier subsidy. But Verizon does things in mysterious ways....
HTC One M8
I hope not. I'd like to be able to buy this on carrier subsidy as I'm due for an upgrade and would like to not have to pay full price. Don't plan on moving off AT&T anytime soon, so yeah. But if the device is bootloader locked on subsidy I'll be pretty frustrated.
I'm betting it'll be just like any other subsidized phone. I doubt they'll lock the bootloader but carrier lock I'd bet on.
I'll blow a gasket if AT&T locks it down as I too have been due for a upgrade for years and since ive decided not to jump ship then I might as well get something out of it by buying a subsidized phone.
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I hope AT&T doesn't lock the bootloader so I can get one on the Next program :good:
Att.Fan1982 said:
I hope AT&T doesn't lock the bootloader so I can get one on the Next program :good:
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Locking a Nexus bootloader is sacrilege. I highly doubt that would be the case. Verizon didn't even lock the bootloader on the GNex when they had it. Can't speak for carrier locking though, as after that GNex debacle, I buy my phones off-contract.
what is the benefit of buying phone from carrier vs google store? granted carrier will subsidizes upfront cost of the phone. is there any other benefits when buying from carrier over google store?
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what is the benefit of buying phone from carrier vs google store? granted carrier will subsidizes upfront cost of the phone. is there any other benefits when buying from carrier over google store?
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Subsidized phones are cheaper. Its why programs like Jump and T-Nobiles 'no contract' pricing is a scam.
ECrispy said:
Subsidized phones are cheaper. Its why programs like Jump and T-Nobiles 'no contract' pricing is a scam.
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Exactly. Same thing with ATT if you buy it unlocked(google play, no contract) then you simply pay $15/month if your on mobile share plan. If you take a two contract(subsidiy) then you pay $40/month. If you do ATT next you pay a lease fee of $30 dollars or so monthly plus the $15. So its more expensive monthly but you can pay the phone off when you want.
So two yr vs unlocked, $40-$15=$25(the difference). So $25/month x 24 months=$600(roughly price of phone.
In short, its the same thing, they always get their money, its just over what period they get it, you still pay. If you have the money buy it from google play, and have a cheaper monthly bill.
it will eventually be unlocked
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it will eventually be unlocked
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If it's not sold unlocked, its not a Nexus.
I know some of you said something about carrier unlock. So does anyone here know what the chances are that AT&T unlocks the carrier lock so that we can get OTA updates just like the unlocked version from the Play Store?
Trying to avoid paying $649 all of once, so if I can get the same phone from AT&T while making installments using Next, that would be awesome.
I'm assuming that the carrier phone be the same exact phone as the unlocked one, only difference being carrier lock.
I've owned three nexus phone gnex nexus 4 and 5 not one has been carrier locked
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If it's not sold unlocked, its not a Nexus.
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"Nexus phones are always sold at a much cheaper price than other flagship phones."
Time's are changing...hopefully you're right though.
tawfiqmp said:
I know some of you said something about carrier unlock. So does anyone here know what the chances are that AT&T unlocks the carrier lock so that we can get OTA updates just like the unlocked version from the Play Store?
Trying to avoid paying $649 all of once, so if I can get the same phone from AT&T while making installments using Next, that would be awesome.
I'm assuming that the carrier phone be the same exact phone as the unlocked one, only difference being carrier lock.
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I would like to avoid paying $649 as well by using my AT&T upgrade (no plans to leave so may as well take the discount)...however I won't buy a "compromised" Nexus. Worst case scenario I'll buy a S5, Note 4, or even iPhone 6 on contract and then sell it on eBay to make up for paying the full $649 for the Nexus 6.
jeffreii said:
"Nexus phones are always sold at a much cheaper price than other flagship phones."
Time's are changing...hopefully you're right though.
I would like to avoid paying $649 as well by using my AT&T upgrade (no plans to leave so may as well take the discount)...however I won't buy a "compromised" Nexus. Worst case scenario I'll buy a S5, Note 4, or even iPhone 6 on contract and then sell it on eBay to make up for paying the full $649 for the Nexus 6.
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But what if it's not comprimised? I mean if you can change it to be exactly like the one you can buy from the Play Store, what really is the difference? Big IFs because we don't know enough right now, but I mean I would be certainly fine with turning into a "Play Store Edition" if I have the ability to do so.
If I can't, then yeah, I'm definitely not buying one from AT&T. I'd rather just get it straight from the Play Store and just pay the full $649 up front.
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But what if it's not comprimised? I mean if you can change it to be exactly like the one you can buy from the Play Store, what really is the difference? Big IFs because we don't know enough right now, but I mean I would be certainly fine with turning into a "Play Store Edition" if I have the ability to do so.
If I can't, then yeah, I'm definitely not buying one from AT&T. I'd rather just get it straight from the Play Store and just pay the full $649 up front.
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If it's not compromised, then it's a no-brainer for me to buy the cheaper one.
If it's compromised but still possible to change it to be almost exactly like the one from Google, then it's just a question of do I prefer to workaround the compromise or is it simply easier to buy the Google version and then use the contract to buy then sell a flagship phone on eBay to recoup the difference.
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If it's not compromised, then it's a no-brainer for me to buy the cheaper one.
If it's compromised but still possible to change it to be almost exactly like the one from Google, then it's just a question of do I prefer to workaround the compromise or is it simply easier to buy the Google version and then use the contract to buy then sell a flagship phone on eBay to recoup the difference.
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Makes sense.
Att.Fan1982 said:
I hope AT&T doesn't lock the bootloader so I can get one on the Next program :good:
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You do know the Next program is a complete and utter scam, right?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T-Next-scam-youre-paying-twice-and-ETO-is-a-better-option_id45379
http://www.inquisitr.com/1170157/att-next-and-phone-upgrades-the-smart-scam/
http://www.imore.com/att-makes-next-plans-easier-get-still-not-good-value-they-should-be
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You do know the Next program is a complete and utter scam, right?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T-Next-scam-youre-paying-twice-and-ETO-is-a-better-option_id45379
http://www.inquisitr.com/1170157/att-next-and-phone-upgrades-the-smart-scam/
http://www.imore.com/att-makes-next-plans-easier-get-still-not-good-value-they-should-be
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True but what difference would it make if I, for example, bought the phone from AT&T at full price to avoid the two year contract and next program? I'll still end up paying the $20 or so a month of the subsidiary cost of a two year contract phone. You still end up paying almost double the price of the phone through AT&T's lovely loyalty customer gets f***ed program. Now let's say you're the financially smart guy that decides to buy the phone elsewhere and just use AT&T's service, you may save $100-150 on the cost of the device(which is a significant savings) BUT you still end up paying that $20 or so a month in subsidiary cost over the life of your service. Either way you look at it, you, the customer gets F****D! ☺

AT&T version to work on T-Mobile?

Trying to figure out if the at&t version will work 100%,no drops, on t-mobile network.
I saw a couple post saying that the tmobile version works on at&t and that the 2 version are almost identical *source needed*. But nothing yet saying it works the other way
Reason is I have a bunch of reward certificates and a gift card for Best Buy, I know the att version is a little more expensive $825 vs $770, but i have enough to offset the difference and still make it cheaper.
Why would you want the att version lol, cost more
No original box
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I have the same question about whether or not the AT&T Note 4 will work perfectly the same as a T-mobile version on the T-mobile network. I don't know why no one has mentioned how much cheaper it is to just go set up a new AT&T account to get the discount at Best Buy. You could buy it for $300 minus the $200 trade-in promotion + $70 in sales tax. So $170, then you have $40 activation + $60 for one month service + $350 ETF after 15 days, then get it unlocked. So the total out of pocket cost for the AT&T version is $620. Why would you buy the $750 T-mobile version, which would be $815 after sales tax. You save nearly $200 after all is said and done. Am I missing anything here? I haven't seen a single person mention doing this on this forum or over at androidcentral.
pham818 said:
Why would you want the att version lol, cost more
No original box
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shadowoak said:
Trying to figure out if the at&t version will work 100%,no drops, on t-mobile network.
I saw a couple post saying that the tmobile version works on at&t and that the 2 version are almost identical *source needed*. But nothing yet saying it works the other way
Reason is I have a bunch of reward certificates and a gift card for Best Buy, I know the att version is a little more expensive $825 vs $770, but i have enough to offset the difference and still make it cheaper.
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1st post..
red_stripe05 said:
I have the same question about whether or not the AT&T Note 4 will work perfectly the same as a T-mobile version on the T-mobile network. I don't know why no one has mentioned how much cheaper it is to just go set up a new AT&T account to get the discount at Best Buy. You could buy it for $300 minus the $200 trade-in promotion + $70 in sales tax. So $170, then you have $40 activation + $60 for one month service + $350 ETF after 15 days, then get it unlocked. So the total out of pocket cost for the AT&T version is $620. Why would you buy the $750 T-mobile version, which would be $815 after sales tax. You save nearly $200 after all is said and done. Am I missing anything here? I haven't seen a single person mention doing this on this forum or over at androidcentral.
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1st post...Just sayin
red_stripe05 said:
I have the same question about whether or not the AT&T Note 4 will work perfectly the same as a T-mobile version on the T-mobile network. I don't know why no one has mentioned how much cheaper it is to just go set up a new AT&T account to get the discount at Best Buy. You could buy it for $300 minus the $200 trade-in promotion + $70 in sales tax. So $170, then you have $40 activation + $60 for one month service + $350 ETF after 15 days, then get it unlocked. So the total out of pocket cost for the AT&T version is $620. Why would you buy the $750 T-mobile version, which would be $815 after sales tax. You save nearly $200 after all is said and done. Am I missing anything here? I haven't seen a single person mention doing this on this forum or over at androidcentral.
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You are missing that you have to return the Note 4 to the manufacturer. See http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/returnpolicy.html#fbid=qD17b06g8-s
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1st post..
1st post...Just sayin
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What does have to do with anything? Ive been lurking around xda since the 1st iphone came out
Well as I said I have a bunch of money in best buy that it would make it cheaper. But, after looking around the att version forum, found out that the bootloader is locked. So im just going to buy one straight from t-mobile, once they get more in-stock
So what if its my first post? I've used these forums for years as a lurker getting info on rooting, starting with my Sprint Epic Touch 4G. I've read all the posts I can on the Note 4, and seriously just wondered why no one discusses starting a new contract to get the phone at such a steep discount. I'm not trolling anyone, although there seems to be way more uneducated/uninformed people on here than usual.
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1st post..
1st post...Just sayin
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After 15 days into a new contract with AT&T, if you want to cancel your service, you do NOT have to return the phone. To fulfill your contractual obligations, you pay the ETF. That seems to be it. You are stuck with the phone after 15 days if anything goes wrong, and yes, you would have to send it to the manufacturer for any warranty claims. But wouldn't that be the same case if you bought it without insurance anyways?
Back to the original question though, does anyone know of any issues with using the AT&T version on T-mobile once its been unlocked by AT&T? It has band 12 support, but could T-mobile pull some sort of throttling BS for it being an AT&T imei?
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You are missing that you have to return the Note 4 to the manufacturer. See
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It's NOT the t mobile version of the phone, it's their service for some reason.
I get REALLY slow speeds on my t mobile note 4, but when I used an AT&T sim card, LTE was really fast and no PROBLEMS. I can't believe anyone would even consider a NOTE 4 AT&T version....unless they like that $300+ 2 year contract deal.
re: ATT Note 4
pham818 said:
Why would you want the att version lol, cost more
No original box
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You forgot to mention "No Wifi Calling". LOL
red_stripe05 said:
I have the same question about whether or not the AT&T Note 4 will work perfectly the same as a T-mobile version on the T-mobile network. I don't know why no one has mentioned how much cheaper it is to just go set up a new AT&T account to get the discount at Best Buy. You could buy it for $300 minus the $200 trade-in promotion + $70 in sales tax. So $170, then you have $40 activation + $60 for one month service + $350 ETF after 15 days, then get it unlocked. So the total out of pocket cost for the AT&T version is $620. Why would you buy the $750 T-mobile version, which would be $815 after sales tax. You save nearly $200 after all is said and done. Am I missing anything here? I haven't seen a single person mention doing this on this forum or over at androidcentral.
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LOL where did you get the 200 from? that deal ended already...
The deal has been extended at Best Buy until November 1.

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