I'm the owner of AndyTags.com and my sole business is selling NFC Tags so you can imagine how thrilled I was when a customer contacted me shortly after the Nexus 4 came out to let me know his tags didn't work with his phone. To make things even more fun, a few days later another customer contacted me to say he had just gotten the Nexus 4 and was worried that his tags wouldn't work, but they did. So I began a lot of research, and along with a fellow Android fan who owns a Nexus 4 conducted extensive testing to get the final word on compatibility. There's a lot of confusing info out there so I thought I'd share these facts with you guys to make it simple so you could buy the correct NFC Tags for your new groovy Nexus 4.
The Nexus 4 & 10 are NOT compatible with Mifare Classic tags because Mifare Classic tags do NOT adhere to the NFC Forum's Standards. They can not write to the tags nor can they read information that someone else has written to the tags. However, they can detect the UID Code (kinda like a UPC code) of a tag which is unique to every tag. So, if you use an app like NFC ReTag or NFC Task Launcher which has the ability to just detect a tag and read it's UID code, and then launch settings/profiles/etc then you can still use Mifare Classic tags with the Nexus 4 & 10. This is why some people keep saying they are compatible. Just remember, technically they are NOT compatible - the phone can just read the UID code off of the tag.
What kind of tags DO work with the Nexus 4 & 10? Any tags that do adhere to the NFC Forum's standards. The most popular of which is the NTAG203. Unlike the 1K Mifare Classic which has 700 bytes of usable memory and is fairly inexpensive, the NTAG203 tags have about 140 bytes of usable memory and are slightly more expensive in general. However, 140 bytes is plenty of memory for most settings/tasks launching NFC Apps. Many apps, such as NFC Smart Q, allow you to create tasks and see how much memory is needed even without having tags so you can do that before ordering tags to make sure it's enough. The only things that it might not be enough for are vCards or if for some reason you want to program a really long text string to a tag (like more than 130 characters); but since most of us want to use tags to automate things, 140 bytes is enough for that.
What problems might you encounter using Mifare Classic tags to trigger events using the tag's UID? If you only use one app that detects a "blank" tag (Mifare Classic's are seen as blank by the Nexus 4/10) and read's its UID code and triggers a set of rules/settings/tasks based on that then you shouldn't have any problems at all! However, if you have more than one app that detects blank tags, then anytime you tap a Mifare Classic tag, you'll get a pop-up box asking you which app you want to use to execute the action which defeats the purpose of automation.
What is the deal anyway? Why don't the Mifare Classic tags work with the Nexus 4/10 like they do with all other Android phones? Basically, NXP is one of the leading manufacturers of NFC products. They not only manufactured the NFC hardware built into pretty much every Android phone out there up to this point, but also manufactured most of the popular NFC Tags in use. At some point they designed the Mifare Classic NFC Chips and designed them specifically to be compatible with their NXP hardware, but did not design them according to the NFC Forum standards which meant they wouldn't necessarily be compatible with all NFC hardware by other companies. Since pretty much all Android phones used the NXP NFC hardware, this wasn't really an issue and still isn't for most people. However, either Google, LG, Samsung or all three decided to use another company's (Broadcom) hardware in the Nexus 4/10. While any NFC Tags made by any company that adhere to the NFC Forum's protocols will work fine, because the Mifare Classic does not meet those criteria it is not compatible with the Nexus 4/10.
Great info. Thanks.
The kind of post intended to be on xda. Great information and very helpful!
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Thanks for this. Just bought some more tags to replace the old mifare.
Excellent post, and information! Thank you!
Hopefully this will push the industry towards fully NFC standards compliant tags, rather than Mifare classic.
Thanks for the information. Just placed an order for the ntag203. Looking forward to trying them out.
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Thank you for the useful information and I just ordered a 20 pack for shipping to the Philippines.
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Thanks - This is terrific information. I already have a Nexus 7 and a nexus 4 is on the way.
Have few questions. Would appreciate your inputs:
1) Do you ship to international addresses? What do you charge for the shipping?
2) Will be using the NFC tags for lots of automation - for ex: turning off WiFi while leaving, enabling BT when getting in the car etc. Are these functions pre-programmed in tags you sell?
3) If I want to customize functionality, what kind of hardware would I additionally require?
4) Do you sell blank NFC tags so that I can program tags as I wish?
5) Costs - how much per tag and how much for the NFC reader / writer?
I haven't visited your site yet (as It's blocked at work), so apologies if this information is already available on the site.
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your nexus 4 will be your nfc reader/writer, no additional hardware required. There are apps to program these tags
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Awesome. Thanks!
managed to browse through the site as well, and got most of the information I wanted.
...now, If my nexus 4 came along...
If I want to place a tag on my router so that guests coming over dont need to ask for the password, will the native NFC app on their phone be able to read the data or do they need a specific app? If their phone will automatically read the tag, how will it be displayed on the device?
I have an n4.
Is there a way to make a tag that any android phone using 4.xxx (I.e. gs3, gn2, n4, gnex) do a check in with Facebook etc?
I bought a few tektiles to play with, but obviously can't write then properly.
Is 140 bytes enough to write a check in on Facebook command?
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I wonder about security. Say you make a tag for your office, don't lock it and while you are gone someone wants to rewrite the tag to steal your information is this possible? If so is there any way to tell if your tag has been rewritten without reading the tag before using it? Can you read the tag before using it? Do any tags allow security like requiring a pin number to write to them?
Sorry, but my classics are working fine for both read and write. Definitely reading more that just the uid. Make sure your device is on 4.2.1.
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Sorry, but my classics are working fine for both read and write. Definitely reading more that just the uid. Make sure your device is on 4.2.1.
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I am, and I can't write anything to a tektile.
And according to documentation, I'm not supposed to be able to. What NFC app are you using?
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I am, and I can't write anything to a tektile.
And according to documentation, I'm not supposed to be able to. What NFC app are you using?
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It can't write them, period. This shouldn't even be a discussion, it's not capable of reading or writing classics. It wasn't updated in 4.2.1 to support classics.
You *can* pull a UUID from a classic tag. However you cannot write to the physical tag or read regardless if the tag is blank or already formatted NDEF.
I couldn't write to them either until 4.2.1 was released. But all i own is 10 mifare 1k classics and all but one was blank prior to owning the n4. I've written to 4 others since that time using NFC task launcher.
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I couldn't write to them either until 4.2.1 was released. But all i own is 10 mifare 1k classics and all but one was blank prior to owning the n4. I've written to 4 others since that time using NFC task launcher.
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It's not writing them.
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Duuuuude.... what the heck is it doing then? You think I'm lying about this? What possible reason would i have to do that?
Edit: also if you look at the ota package for 4.2.1 you'll see that a couple of NFC related packages and driver files were edited. I haven't bothered to look at the source on git but I'm fairly sure that was the mod they made.
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Wrote this FREE application for the Android Community.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nxp.nfc.tagwriter&feature=search_result
NXP TagWriter allows to store contacts, URLs and text messages on any NFC tag.
The NXP TagWriter application allows you to store contacts, URLs and text messages on any NFC tag.
Features:
- Easily create tag content from your contacts and bookmarks;
- Write multiple tags in sequence;
- Backup the contents of a tag before writing it;
- View the existing contents of a tag;
- Erase the contents of a tag;
- Write-protect a tag;
- Keeps a history of all written and backed up tag content.
The application fully supports the NFC Forum Type 1 Tag, Type 2 Tag, Type 3 Tag, Type 4 Tag portfolio.
This includes a whole range of NXP and third party contactless IC card products like MIFARE UltraLight, MIFARE Classic, MIFARE DESFire and many others.
no one has 2.3.3 yet :-(
Wow, great to see some early practical demo work! Gives me hope that NFC might not be so useless in the near term after all.
Thanks! ...Now I just have to wait for 2.3.3. >.>
wow! thank you!
time to play with it
darn that sucks, it wont let me install it because of the version
Sorry we made you guys wait, but we wanted to make sure it was in the market the second the OTA came out, which is any day now according to google.
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darn that sucks, it wont let me install it because of the version
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Correct, we make hooks in the software so it only installs on phones with 2.3.3 and NFC. These requirements are needed to do NFC tag writing.
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Sorry we made you guys wait, but we wanted to make sure it was in the market the second the OTA came out, which is any day now according to google.
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Great, so unless the OTA is on this weekend, maybe in the coming weeks
Can you tell us of other features on 2.3.3 other than the official ones? bugfixes and whatnot?
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Great, so unless the OTA is on this weekend, maybe in the coming weeks
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OTA is expected to happen any day now (I'm hearing Monday is the day, but don't know for sure).
Sounds good to me, don't know where I am going to be able to test it out though, not much nfc stuff on the go in the UK lol
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Yubikeys are quite neat, fairly inexpensive, USB security tokens. They happen to have a MiFare classic NFC chip built in too. Fairly easy to get hold of across Europe if you want to experiment.
http://www.yubico.com/rfid-yubikey
Check you WWW.Laks.com too. They sell a NFC watch.
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ok so its clear that 'some' I9023's have 2.3.3 pre-loaded. its also clear that NXP guys have it, coz well they made the chip in the nexus (right?) and they cant test it without it. there's apparently some BT profiles also coming with 2.3.3 (file transfer, etc). can anyone confirm this?
I wonder what the hold up is.
I now have 2.3.3 but it still won't let me install.
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I now have 2.3.3 but it still won't let me install.
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same problem!
Same for me grrrr
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NFC TagWriter doesn't show in Android Market.
Can NXP investigate the problem?
Thanks.
Same for me. I just upgraded to 2.3.3 but I can't find the TagWriter app in the Market from my phone. If I go to https ://market.android.com/details?id=com.nxp.nfc.tagwriter on my PC, it won't let me push it to my Nexus S either as the device is grayed out.
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Same for me. I just upgraded to 2.3.3 but I can't find the TagWriter app in the Market from my phone. If I go to https ://market.android.com/details?id=com.nxp.nfc.tagwriter on my PC, it won't let me push it to my Nexus S either as the device is grayed out.
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Things like this are common when google updates a handset. They need to update the servers to allow the updated devices to access apps. some other apps will be missing to like the official Paypal app.
Have to wait.
Seen this on another thread somewhere the other day.
For those of us who manually installed the update early is there any chance of NXP posting up a direct link to the apk? Not sure if that will work but I dont see why not
I'm starting to think this is Vapor Ware, or maybe Malware, they hyped the app, then seemed to falloff the face of the earth. Anyone try to install the app and see any weird things on the phone after?
Not saying I have, just asking if anyone has.
If anyone is looking to purchase NFC tags for the Nexus 4 be aware that Mifare Classic 1K tags are not going to work with this phone. Stick to NFC Forum Type 1-4 tags. If you need more than 144 bytes look for large Topaz tags or Desfire tags (2k, 4k).
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If anyone is looking to purchase NFC tags for the Nexus 4 be aware that Mifare Classic 1K tags are not going to work with this phone. Stick to NFC Forum Type 1-4 tags. If you need more than 144 bytes look for large Topaz tags or Desfire tags (2k, 4k).
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Hey can you explain the reason why? Is there some sort of NFC specs? sort of how there are HDMI specs v1-v4?
Warbuff said:
Hey can you explain the reason why? Is there some sort of NFC specs? sort of how there are HDMI specs v1-v4?
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Mifare Classic 1K tags *aren't* part of the NFC Forum specs. They are a legacy tag. NXP's controller (the one used in the Nexus S, Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, S3, etc) supported them in Android though.
They aren't supported on other devices (Blackberries, Windows Phone 8) as they technically aren't part of the NFC Forum standards.
With the Nexus 4 the NFC controller isn't from NXP. As a result it won't support the Mifare Classic 1K tags.
Thanks for the info
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With the Nexus 4 the NFC controller isn't from NXP. As a result it won't support the Mifare Classic 1K tags.
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Do you know which controller it is? And if that supports swp/hci? I.e. UICC secure element.
Can you tell me, which kind of tags i can use?
or maybe post a link to them?
I'm looking for this ones:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/10x-NFC-Tag-...dy_Zubehör&hash=item337d14a9b9#ht_2012wt_1208
They had ISO 14443A standard, which seems to be nfc type 2? can i use them with nexus4?
//EDIT: Or this ones, maybe work they?:
http://www.nfc-tag-shop.de/nfc/nfc-ntags-anti-metal-5
Oggy512 said:
Can you tell me, which kind of tags i can use?
or maybe post a link to them?
I'm looking for this ones:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/10x-NFC-Tag-...dy_Zubehör&hash=item337d14a9b9#ht_2012wt_1208
They had ISO 14443A standard, which seems to be nfc type 2? can i use them with nexus4?
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Those look like Classic 1K tags.
You can use Mifare Ultralight C, NTAG, Topaz, Desfire, Felica tags without any problems.
okay, thanks!!
the second link i posted seems to use the "NXP Mifare NTAG 203" chipset with 168 byte. this would probably work you say?
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okay, thanks!!
the second link i posted seems to use the "NXP Mifare NTAG 203" chipset with 168 byte. this would probably work you say?
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Yeah. Generally speaking anti-metal tags are more expensive as they have an isolation layer between the surface and the IC so that they work on metal.
ok. i'm not sure which way i'll use the tags, but if i now buy them wihtout "metal-funktion", i have maybe to buy another ones.
so i now buy the "metal-funktion" tags and i'm on the secur side, u know
The NFC controller is a Broadcom BCM20791 according to anandtech tear down.
there goes $30 i dropped on MiFare Classic tags
I'm having problems reading or writing tags with NFC Task Launcher on the Nexus 4. They are Topaz tags but if I try to write, even a very simple launch app task it says it is too large!
I've written to these tags before with my Xperia S and they work fine on that.
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I'm having problems reading or writing tags with NFC Task Launcher on the Nexus 4. They are Topaz tags but if I try to write, even a very simple launch app task it says it is too large!
I've written to these tags before with my Xperia S and they work fine on that.
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That's odd, Topaz tags should work AFAIK. Can you scan one with NFC Tag Info and send me the resulting XML? Can you also try writing it with debugging enabled in NFCTL and send me that log?
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That's odd, Topaz tags should work AFAIK. Can you scan one with NFC Tag Info and send me the resulting XML? Can you also try writing it with debugging enabled in NFCTL and send me that log?
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3Shirts said:
I'm having problems reading or writing tags with NFC Task Launcher on the Nexus 4. They are Topaz tags but if I try to write, even a very simple launch app task it says it is too large!
I've written to these tags before with my Xperia S and they work fine on that.
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I have the same problem but these are the tags http://goo.gl/MvbqL that i had bought which they work with my Galaxy Nexus
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I have the same problem but these are the tags that i had bought which they work with my Galaxy Nexus
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They weren't Topaz tags. They were Classic 1K tags, which don't work with the Nexus 4 (but work fine with the GN).
The reason they were identifying as Topaz tags is due to how the identification logic was written. They were falling into the NfcA tech case but had already missed all other tag types (MifareClassic included) therefore they must be topaz tags. On the Nexus 4 this is not true as the Classic 1K tags don't report the MifareClassic tech as they aren't supported.
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They weren't Topaz tags. They were Classic 1K tags, which don't work with the Nexus 4 (but work fine with the GN).
The reason they were identifying as Topaz tags is due to how the identification logic was written. They were falling into the NfcA tech case but had already missed all other tag types (MifareClassic included) therefore they must be topaz tags. On the Nexus 4 this is not true as the Classic 1K tags don't report the MifareClassic tech as they aren't supported.
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will you link me to the tags that you know they will work for sure?
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will you link me to the tags that you know they will work for sure?
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Any NFC Forum type 1-4 tags will work.
NTAG203, Desfire, Topaz, Ultralight, Ultralight C, Felica
Everything here that isn't a Mifare Classic 1K: http://nfctags.tagstand.com/
If you're not in the US or want to use a different Vendor look for the tag types above. Type 1 and Type 2 are the most commonly found. These are tags that use the NFC forum standards and work on all NFC enabled devices (Android, BB, WP8, Symbian).
I recently brought Mifare Classic 1k tag at amazon.com/gp/product/B008P066GE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00. It seem to work with my N4. I was able to program the tag to turn on bluetooth, open spotify and turn off wifi using nfc task launcher.
Sorry I cant post url yet.
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I recently brought Mifare Classic 1k tag at amazon.com/gp/product/B008P066GE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00. It seem to work with my N4. I was able to program the tag to turn on bluetooth, open spotify and turn off wifi using nfc task launcher.
Sorry I cant post url yet.
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It's not actually reading/writing anything on the 1Ks on the Nexus 4. It's merely mapping the actions based on the ID. The actual tags don't work for reading/writing.
I have been doing alot of research on getting google wallet to workoutside the US. but since google wallet has stopped the $10 prepaid card service. there has been no easy way without getting an american master card. so i've foudn some very interesting projects that people are working on.
1.NFC proxy. http://sourceforge.net/p/nfcproxy/wiki/Home/ it allows a card to be read by the device, store it and allow the device to emulate the actual card. (goal accomplished). to in order to do this, someone needs to compile these codes (https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_Nfc/commit/75ad85b06935cfe2cc556ea1fe5ccb9b54467695) into a CM rom. which basically allows the device to work as card emulation.
2. SimplyTapp. http://www.simplytapp.com/howitworks.plthis is an app that works pretty much exactly like google wallet. it allows you to add funds to a prepaid card and then emulate it on your phone. but this is obviously open to the world. THIS ALSO NEED THESE CODES TO BE COMPILED INTO THE LATEST CM ROM TO WORK
also i have mentioned all of the above in this NFC thread also. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135238
if anyone can start working on this project. it would be very much appreciated! and anyone who is also interested in this project please help getting this out there! thank you!
+1 I am very interested.
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sent from my Nexus 4...
AFAIK NFC card emulation (also called tag-emulation) on the Nexus 4 may be different to implement as on previous phone models, because it uses a different NFC chipset (in the Nexus 4 we have a Broadcom "BCM20793" while most previous phones used a chipset from NXP Semiconductors).
(That's btw also the reason why the Nexus 4 doesn't support Mifare Classic tags. The Mifare Classic - produced by NXP - are not standard tags and therefore only read by NXP NFC readers.)
But guessing from this source file I was thinking that the Broadcom chip in general also should support Card Emulation:
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...-nci/+/android-4.3_r2.1/src/nfc/tags/ce_t4t.c
So I just wanted to ask if anybody had already worked in this direction or any information on this? (I didn't find anything.)
Thanks!
Do you know an app for the Nexus 4 who allow card emulation ?
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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dude any android high-end is basically a computer/ game system. i really hate the fact that this phone doesnt have a micro sd but i got over it. if usb on the go gets better oh mann ps1 and gba emulator heaven. i love the freedom with keboards and mice i can do a lot of school work on office suite pro 7. gaming is amazing with my dualshock 3. screen calibration is like the best thing ever since everyone can get the screen the way THEY want. andddd uhh, how thin and sexy the phone is. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
i want OTG >
btw hows the hdmi out .. the slimport or whatever? is it laggy or smooth
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The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
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I'm guessing you use a headset/headphones?
Does anyone else have any tips for what android can really do?
It can be better than an Iphone at half the price.
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers to present day to being a heavy poster on XDA.. I've enjoyed every minute I lurk and post on these boards. You meet some interesting folks, you have some great laughs, some not so great arguments, and more importantly constantly learning... If you're willing to listen.. There is always someone around here willing to help another person out.. All you gotta do is ask.. And if you get bored.. You can pick any thread in the development section, start from page one and just read.. You're bound to learn something new..
The best feature of Android is IMO that it is open source and the best feature of the Nexi is IMO that they run clean Android and have full fastboot support.
having used an Android phone since the OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i've really come to love that the Nexus isn't locked to any particular carrier, and has no bloatware. in the past, i've always felt like i had to root and ROM my phones the moment i got them, just to get rid of AT&T's craptastic pre-loaded apps. i've had my N4 for nearly 3 whole months and haven't found a NEED to mod it at all (i still may in the future because of a desire to, but the need isn't there).
that's why i love the Nexus...
The Dev community.
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Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Off contract, unlocked, open file system.
I've been firmly entrenched in Apple's ecosystem for almost 30 years, and while most apps still exhibit more polish on iOS... Android is catching up.
Nexus 7 was the first Android device that impressed me, and Nexus 4 is more of the same. While I initially missed the ability to communicate via AppleEvents to my server, I managed to solve that problem and there is now very little iOS abilities I miss on Android.
best feature is that i bought one for $220 from a friend of mine
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Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Agreed coming off att sg2 and have been fighting with the bloatware since having it, can't wait to install only the programs that I use and that is it
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I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers
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Wow, an sdx reference. Didn't see that coming. They were instrumental in making the SPH-M920 aka Samsung transform aka god awful slider phone halfway decent. Vampirefo was the kernel developer I followed. Ahhh memories. Anyway, my favorite feature as far as the nexus is concerned is the updates.... Like all of them. On time and with a quickness.
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Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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You can by taking advantage of one of the highlights of owning a nexus are..... Rooting it.
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mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to watch porn secretly
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quick updates , great developer support and calling and texting hah
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Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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co-sign. I really dislike every "skinned" theme that carrier phones come with. Although if I HAD to be stuck with one I guess Id choose sense....I guess lol
I love how easy it is to access Google Now. On the Galaxy S3, you have to hold the home button, then two the Google Now icon.
Keyboard is pretty cool too.
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Officially I am done with google , as well as the other 7 companies caught up in this NSA mess. Anyone have a suggestion forms nongoogle based ROM for the nook color?
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I am a researcher of bad deeds by corprocratic elites that run our world and if you didn't see this coming five years ago when folks like myself were shouting from the tree tops about these globalist controlled tracking devices then idk what to tell ya. If you are on the internet you have a link established with someone who is watching every move and unless you use an anonymous encrypted VPN to conceal everything you do and do not use social networking or any major search engine except startpage.com then the matrix already has you. And if you believe it is only the few companies named think again. A recent piece of legislation passed by the house and senate allows companies like telcos to get paid govt subsidies to forward information to these alphabet agencies AND more significantly removes any abilities you had to pursue a litigation based remedy against the companies doing this. And since it wasn't the govt spying on you directly, they now have an out for illegally collecting information on citizens. PS this was going on looooooong before the PATRIOT ACT was passed and this is the norm and not the exception. When SHTF economically here all too soon they will know who you are and who you may turn to for help. They will have completed their psychological profiling and prediction algorithms based on your past behavior and will know what you will do and when you will do it with stunning accuracy..
And if you scoff about this, you haven't done your research. Anybody remember that [open]BSD has those backdoors paid for by tax dollars? You think BSD is alone? Hahaha ..honestly in this day and age with the constant lies of the leadership laid bare at our feet you would have to be crazy NOT to realize these things and seek out their own words..
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/
Just a sample
Remember the saying GIYF? You *still* believe it?
Good day and I too would like to see something not controlled by Google but since the devices have to network through means which are obviously enemy controlled is there really any point?
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Most roms available are based on android, and only a few demo operating systems have been created that are not based on android for the Nook Color.
The Ubuntu Touch demo works for the most part.
Someone got open WebOS working on the Nook Color, but it might take a while to get it working on your part.
You could always port over your own OS if you are that desperate.
If you really want a kinda non google rom and that works well I would have to suggest the original rom that came with the Nook. Even though it is still running android it was modified by Barnes and Noble and is different than the android interface.
Ideally I'd love to see something with ghosting built in. The main reason I want to distance myself from android is to avoid the data mining/forwarding issue
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Ideally I'd love to see something with ghosting built in. The main reason I want to distance myself from android is to avoid the data mining/forwarding issue
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The only thing you are going to find is webOS. Everything else, stock, CM, Ubuntu Touch, Paranoid Android and all others are just forms of Android.
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vikingmedic said:
Ideally I'd love to see something with ghosting built in. The main reason I want to distance myself from android is to avoid the data mining/forwarding issue
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I work on a project designed to compromise the data collection. Look up OpenPdroid and the auto-patcher. All system and app calls for data will still go through, but you will be able to either block or spoof the data returned.
Installation is not exactly trivial...we are working on that.
It's not a perfect solution, but ChameleonOS has a built in Permissions Manager in which you can control your apps.
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From the posts I think many are not realizing that the spy features are BUILT IN TO THE CORE apps and frameworks of the OS especially where proprietary gapps are included. You could disable certain features but then it also wouldn't function properly for your own purposes. And if it is based on android it probably is riddled with the same issues.
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Dump Google Apps / Get OpenPDroid ... Use ixquick Search Engine
I'm running CM 10.1 but I don't install Google Apps which makes a huge difference! GApps is the most invasive, nosiest app I have ever seen! Without that on your tablet you do not have to register the device or provide any info at all... no "setup"... Then I use pandaapps.com and other alternative app sites/ways to get apps. Right after flashing a ROM I also disable all location/GPS crap and go into the browser settings and do the same before enabling wifi. Then I make ixquick.com the search engine. On top of that I am working on installing OpenPDroid but it's not the easiest thing to do yet... the auto-patcher that works in Windows to compile the ROM and PDroid patches doesn't work with every ROM. But OpenPDroid will allow you to control what info and access apps get, by (for example) setting PDroid to give the app null, fake, or random data in place of real data. It's still not perfect but it's a lot better....