[Q] "Other" Storage - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK, I'm out of space on my 820 because "Other" is taking up over 3GB of space and WP8 refuses to touch my 64GB microSD card.
I went through uninstalling nearly all of my apps last night, cleared maps, cleared IE history/temp data, removed facebook/twitter from accounts, and Other only shrunk down to 2.5GB.
Obviously I re-added those things and am back up to 3.0GB. This phone has 8GB of internal storage. Nearly half of the only storage WP8 can use is taken up by some "mystery data", and there's a thread on WPCentral where someone claims to have uninstalled/cleared everything and still has 4GB or so of data sitting in Other.
Anyone here have insight?

Other is the OS and its files. It needs to be stored and loaded from somewhere.
Sure, they could have a second area of flash just for that, but then it would sit there with unused space the user couldn't use as the flash would always be much bigger than the OS to allow for expansion.
Someone mentioned to plug the SD card into the phone while it is plugged into the PC via USB cable.

No, there is already an indicator for system files and it sits around 1.7GB.
Others have reported up to 8GB of usage taken up by "Other", and nothing short of hard resetting seems to clear it. The size is expanding, but it doesn't seem to correlate to any particular addition (IE history, cache, maps, etc). Unless you're suggesting wp8 just increases in size for no reason, this isn't the system.
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link68759 said:
No, there is already an indicator for system files and it sits around 1.7GB.
Others have reported up to 8GB of usage taken up by "Other", and nothing short of hard resetting seems to clear it. The size is expanding, but it doesn't seem to correlate to any particular addition (IE history, cache, maps, etc). Unless you're suggesting wp8 just increases in size for no reason, this isn't the system.
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I didn't think wp8 supported more than 32gb cards. I have a problem with that other folder too. The thing that bothers me is the fact that this is my most advanced device I've ever owned, yet I reached the phone storage limit, which was not ever a problem with windows mobile. With wm, I could just install aps right on the SD. This would solve the problem for us. Even my hd2 (with android dual boot, then wp7.8) has way more apps and games and never saw this problem.

aptness leaderships said:
I didn't think wp8 supported more than 32gb cards. I have a problem with that other folder too. The thing that bothers me is the fact that this is my most advanced device I've ever owned, yet I reached the phone storage limit, which was not ever a problem with windows mobile. With wm, I could just install aps right on the SD. This would solve the problem for us. Even my hd2 (with android dual boot, then wp7.8) has way more apps and games and never saw this problem.
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I think WP8 itself supports any size card- it IS using the desktop kernel after all.
Varying phones have different hardware support though. The WP8 Lumia line supports up to 64GB I think. I have about 40GB of music on my 64GB SD card and it's working well in WP8.

link68759 said:
I think WP8 itself supports any size card- it IS using the desktop kernel after all.
Varying phones have different hardware support though. The WP8 Lumia line supports up to 64GB I think. I have about 40GB of music on my 64GB SD card and it's working well in WP8.
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cool, I didn't know. I'm using a 16 GB class 6. Works great. I have full phone storage, mostly empty card. Hopefully we will get the option to install on SD. I would rather it be official, but xda is good for this sort of problem.

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How safe is data on MicroSD/SDHC?

Every once in a while I'm having the same sort of problem whith my storage card, whether it's MiniSD, MicroSD or SDHC. To be more precise some/all files disappear leaving nothing but some bloody FILE*.CHK files, which seem to be completely useless. I did some google-search and there seems to be no practical way of retrieving the lost data.
I'm curious: why is it happening in the first place and has anyone been successful in combatting this issue? (don't tell me about backups )
I have yet to have a problem with the mem card in my Kaiser. it is a 6Gb Sandisk. Do you have an off-brand?
My old HTC Sable had issues like you describe...
arent .chk files left over by scandisk on a windows box?
this could be due to not ejecting the hardware before removing it from the pc!
under what circumstances are you experiencing this
Yes when combatting this issue I find that handguns are useless and shotguns are all the rage. When trying to do the official combat I like to taunt the problem a bit with the pistol (which just makes it mad) and then go all out with the shot gun. It's always good to have someone else at your side with a missle launcher or something, ya know, for the hardcore combat.
.CHK files are recovered file fragments from Scandisk. I would try a low level format of your SD card and then reformat as FAT32 (for the love of ____, do not use NTFS). NTFS is not designed for removable media and will give you nothing but headaches.
How do you low level an SD card. You only really hear about that with SCSI drives now days, Or do you mean a full format?
im not sure that the post that says dont format ur sd card as ntfs is accurate, while it may be true that a windows mobile device will probably not recognise this disc at all, i use an sd card formatted as ntfs in a laptop with no problems!
try hdtune @ www.hdtune.com/ this might be useful!
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How do you low level an SD card. You only really hear about that with SCSI drives now days, Or do you mean a full format?
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You can use an SD card reader with a PC and use a program such as Boot/Nuke to do a DoD-certified erase of the contents.
andaroo said:
im not sure that the post that says dont format ur sd card as ntfs is accurate, while it may be true that a windows mobile device will probably not recognise this disc at all, i use an sd card formatted as ntfs in a laptop with no problems!
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You can format removable media with NTFS, but you need to be extremely careful since NTFS is constantly caching data from the drive. Unless you disable write-back caching or eject the card each time prior to removing it (which cannot be done on a phone), you run a high risk of corrupting the data on it.
The problem with NTFS on removable media seems to be a windows issue. Not sure if that is windows mobile as well but it also seems to be fixed in a service pack. If I were having problems I wouldn't be using something with user rights and permissions on a device that does nothing with that.
motocrossmann said:
I have yet to have a problem with the mem card in my Kaiser. it is a 6Gb Sandisk. Do you have an off-brand?
My old HTC Sable had issues like you describe...
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It's Sandisk SDHC 4GB
This is why I released my new software SD Sync Any Kaiser users tried it already? Currently only One way Sync (PPC -> Desktop) happens..
Regards,
Carty..
andaroo said:
arent .chk files left over by scandisk on a windows box?
this could be due to not ejecting the hardware before removing it from the pc!
under what circumstances are you experiencing this
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Forgot to mention when trying to fix this I used the windows disc-check utility, but initially problem started after I installed one of the games (Tomb Rider I think) and the battery power was down to 2-3% when I turned my Kaiser off. I couldn't access the programm files folder from ppc, and it was empty when I opened it on pc...except there was tombrider.exe left...
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.CHK files are recovered file fragments from Scandisk. I would try a low level format of your SD card and then reformat as FAT32 (for the love of ____, do not use NTFS). NTFS is not designed for removable media and will give you nothing but headaches.
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Hmmm, interestingly it doesn't display the file system in the properties menu like it would for the hard drives... but I'm pretty sure I didn't format the card...unless was formatted NTFS when first inserted in a device...
ChumleyEX said:
Yes when combatting this issue I find that handguns are useless and shotguns are all the rage. When trying to do the official combat I like to taunt the problem a bit with the pistol (which just makes it mad) and then go all out with the shot gun. It's always good to have someone else at your side with a missle launcher or something, ya know, for the hardcore combat.
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Great job that you know all this stuff...must have used it alot coz you sound quite like a specialist
You might have forgotten to mention granades - there are different types of them like smoke granades or even those which can kill (OMG!) someone...that kind of stuff...
User X said:
Hmmm, interestingly it doesn't display the file system in the properties menu like it would for the hard drives... but I'm pretty sure I didn't format the card...unless was formatted NTFS when first inserted in a device...
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If you didn't format it, then it would be FAT32 formatted by default.
Extensive application in MicroSD
User X said:
Forgot to mention when trying to fix this I used the windows disc-check utility, but initially problem started after I installed one of the games (Tomb Rider I think) and the battery power was down to 2-3% when I turned my Kaiser off. I couldn't access the programm files folder from ppc, and it was empty when I opened it on pc...except there was tombrider.exe left...
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You installed the games in the MicroSD, right?
I experienced it twice, sorted out that it happens when I'm using an application that installed in the MicroSD and then turned the device off. The strange thing that it is only occurred when using a large sized and resource extensive application (especially games), it doesn't happen when using light application such as YahooGo!, MapKing, etc. I end up to install all apps in main memory, and lived peacefully (finger crossed)
I hoped someone could explain why this happen, even better cured it
Regards,
Jeffry
Saving data from *.CHK
User X said:
Every once in a while I'm having the same sort of problem whith my storage card, whether it's MiniSD, MicroSD or SDHC. To be more precise some/all files disappear leaving nothing but some bloody FILE*.CHK files, which seem to be completely useless. I did some google-search and there seems to be no practical way of retrieving the lost data.
I'm curious: why is it happening in the first place and has anyone been successful in combatting this issue? (don't tell me about backups )
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Actually you still can save your files, it still there just with mixed up name and extention
1. Sort the file by it's file size, you could get an idea what file it was by it's size
2. Change the file extention according to what you think it supposed to be judging by its size, ie:
small file to *.txt and open it with notepad, read what's in it and change it to what it's supposed to be .pwi, .xls, etc
2 - 6 MB files to *.mp3
etc
I know it's painful especially with my 2GB data, also you cannot saved your application this way, but I saved my most recent and important data this way, for the rest I just have to satisfy with my 1 month old backup
If anyone could suggest better way, pleaseee let me know
Just happen again
[email protected]!!! me and my big mouth... it just happen again this morning, same thing, install app in storage card, device turned off and wham!
But this time I did some googling and found this utility really helpfull
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
Well, anyone could explain what caused it and how to prevent it?
Any information will be appreciated
Thanks
jeffry_p said:
You installed the games in the MicroSD, right?
I experienced it twice, sorted out that it happens when I'm using an application that installed in the MicroSD and then turned the device off. The strange thing that it is only occurred when using a large sized and resource extensive application (especially games)...
Jeffry
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Yes mate! Sounds very much like what happened here - after intstalling Tomb Rider (4-6MB) in the MicroSD I launched it and then soft reset - my program files vanished...And I dont think I could do anything about that, the .CHK files I got after running the checkdisc utility were all the same size - 32kb, something to do with the cluster size I think...
I guess the question of the cause and the way to prevent it remains open...
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No one can help?
Anyone also experienced this problem? Please tell us your experience, who know we could sort out something
Thanks

Is it normal and same to yours the Rhodium ROM consume so big size of memory?

What confused me is as following:
In the setting\system\device information\hardware tab(tranlated from chinese), it show up the RAM size is 256MB and the Flash ROM size is 512MB, and the storage memory is 279.09MB.
in the setting\system\memory\main memory tab, it show up there are 279.09MB storage memory(ROM) totally and 183.60 MB program memory(RAM) totally.
Why this will happened? The ROM of the Rhodium consume 232.91MB Flash ROM(512-279.09=232.91)? Is it so big? And how about the RAM?
Is there any chance for me to upgrade the ROM and RAM to bigger size in some kind of phone repair shop?
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Is there any chance for me to upgrade the ROM and RAM to bigger size in some kind of phone repair shop?
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as long as the phone does not run out of memory everything is fine. so why you want to have more ram?
mastermarv said:
as long as the phone does not run out of memory everything is fine. so why you want to have more ram?
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I like to put everything into the phone bringing with me everywhere, including all kind of software and all kind of materials, photo,music, e-book, home video etc.
if the ROM and RAM are not big enough, I will always be worried about them when install software or copy materials. Even it still does not run out off memory, but I do worry about it all the time.
although it can be expanded by TF card, however, many software can't run on TF card and the read/write speed of the TF card is slower than the main memory.
If the main memory is big enough, I can install all of the software into main memory and copy all of the materials into TF card. At that condition, I can easily change TF card to get anymore new contents.
My last device is O2 flame, I do feel comfortable with its big Flash ROM but its RAM still too small and also many other shortcoming.
I ever think of N97 for the built in 32G memory, however, I am used to WM system.
I ever think of samsung i908 for the built in 8G memory, however there is several week points in its specification.
I do not understand why HTC build in so small memory in such a highend model while its competitor,such as Apple,Nokia,Sumsung, are goint toward another way.
get a 8GB memory card, should be enough, and install everything in your memory card. That's what I do, and everything is fine.
Be sure, tho, to install important programs, like drivers, softwares like skins, etc to your device, since the memory card initializes late on boot.
All in all, you should not have any problems even tough the rom is huge. mine is still fast and fancy since day 1, and I have my 8GB nearly full of s***.
creiz said:
get a 8GB memory card, should be enough, and install everything in your memory card. That's what I do, and everything is fine.
Be sure, tho, to install important programs, like drivers, softwares like skins, etc to your device, since the memory card initializes late on boot.
All in all, you should not have any problems even tough the rom is huge. mine is still fast and fancy since day 1, and I have my 8GB nearly full of s***.
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I got a 8GB TF card too and it's now in my device.
However, I have to install some software into the card. Then when I change another card for multi-media contents, those software become unuseable. This is not comfortable for using experience.
What I can't understand is why not built in more memory for user's convenience since it's known the ROM and OS occupied so much memory.
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I got a 8GB TF card too and it's now in my device.
However, I have to install some software into the card. Then when I change another card for multi-media contents, those software become unuseable. This is not comfortable for using experience.
What I can't understand is why not built in more memory for user's convenience since it's known the ROM and OS occupied so much memory.
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perhaps you could have the programs installed into the same directory on different SD cards so when swapping them for Media purposes you do not break the program.
just a thought, never tried it. i can fit everything i want on a 16GB card..

BLU R1-PLUS and also BLU R1-HD - Errors messages while moving APPs to SD

I am currently using a 64GB Sandisk MicroSD Card on my new BLU R1-PLUS cellphone, however I am always having errors messages while moving from internal to the SD memory:
"Unfortunately settings has stopped"
"Not enough storage space"
I am aware that some APPs do not allow to be moved to the SD and that others install themselves to the SD, but the problem I have is with APPs that can be moved to the SD but that when entering "Settings/Storage & USB" it always Crashes.
This annoying problem prevents accessing or manually moving the APPs from internal to SD, because the "Configuration" always closes/crashes, and then I have to uninstall the APPs using only the "Uninstall" function on the home screen.
My Settings/Storage & USB information:
Default write disk SanDisk SD Card
Device Storage 27.37GB Total used of 90.53GB
Internal Storage 11.45GB used of 32GB
SanDisk SD Card 15.92GB used of 58.53GB
I have noticed that when I got this errors messages that if I delete some big APPs the problem totally disapears, so I am starting to believe that may be there is some kind of low memory cache problem, while displaying all the installed APPs on the list at: Settings/Storage & USB
I have made a factory reset several times, have also rebooted into Safe-Mode, and also decided to use other 64GB microSD cards from PNY and Samsung, as I thought some of my memory cards maybe were damaged, but the problem remains the same.
Interestingly, I also experienced the same strange behavior with my other 3 BLU R1-HD cellphones, so it seems that this is not just a problem of the new BLU R1-PLUS.
I am not sure if is the same problem, but Naria9 has mentioned something similar:
"A lot of the general idiosyncrasies of the previous version of the stock rom seem to have gone away for me. It seemed to have weird storage management issues, errors moving to SD, broken symlinks that prevent apps from moving or being reinstalled, and a lot of other little non-storage issues, but so far, none off that here."
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72203169&postcount=5
Does anyone of you knows if there is any fix, or have experienced these same issues when moving APPs from the internal memory to the SD, on the New BLU R1-PLUS or the Original BLU R1-HD?
Thanks in advance for helping me with this problem!
I forgot to mention that I currently have 455 APPs installed, downloaded from the Amazon APP Store and also from the Google Play Store...
But as I said before, this problem has happened to me with both the New BLU R1-PLUS and the BLU R1-HD, and never manifests if I install less than 300 APPs, it always manifests itself when I install more than 350-400 APPs... So I'm starting to believe it's a problem of the APP's listing in "Settings/Storage & USB", or maybe some kind of low memory cache.
Some of you who have bought and are using the new BLU R1-PLUS or the original BLU R1-HD, have already been able to test or have experienced these same problems when moving APPs from internal memory to SD?
Could someone recommend me what to do to try and solve this annoying problem?
I would greatly appreciate any help!
After searching for several weeks on YouTube and also on some technical websites, I thought you would like to know that all the problems I have described are apparently not exclusive to BLU R1-PLUS or BLU R1-HD phones.
Apparently there are some serious problems with Android 6, when moving all the APPs from the internal to the SD memory, no matter the brand of the cellphone!
I have already tried with some fixes that others have used to solve this annoying behavior, like the followings ones:
- Disabling and cleaning the cache of the Google APP (System App).
- Reset APPs Preferences, in Settings/Storage & USB/Internal Storage/APPs (selecting right corner menu: Reset APPs Preferences
- Making use if an APP called: Install Button Unlocked v3.2
https://www.amazon.com/SFApps-Install-Button-Unlocker/dp/B01HGKY2KA
Because when I install an APP or APK file, the install button was not working and the this APP can unlock the button which security was caused by "Screen Overlay"
I also have searched in YouTube the following:
"unfortunatelly settings has stopped"
And have found hundreds of fixes that apparently have worked 100% and corrected the same problems that I have mentioned in my 1st post, however I must say that none have worked for me.
Some of you who have bought the new BLU R1-PLUS or are using the original BLU R1-HD, have already been able to test or have experienced these same problems when moving APPs from the internal memory to the SD?
I would greatly appreciate any help to totally or partially solve this annoying behavior!
Can you switch settings?
I have the Blu r1 hd, so I'm not sure if the r1 plus is configured the same. First of all, did you set your phone to use your SD card as internal storage? Some of your apps will remain on your phone, but it will integrate your SD card so that it should run a bit more smoothly. However, you will not be able to use your SD card solely as storage (it will be unusable outside the phone).
I have encountered issues of my own, where the phone runs slower at this setting, and yes, I get "unfortunately... Has stopped," occasionally (actually this started happening now recently). Then my camera stopped working properly so I reset my phone. After reset, my SD card was corrupt and unusable. This reset was only a few days ago, and things work better, but I haven't gotten a new SD card yet. I'll have to see if my previous issues recur, or if my original SD was not working properly.
If you already have your SD card to work as your internal memory, I'm not sure I have any more advice for you (I'm not very tech savvy, sorry).
Thanks for trying to help with this matter!
Yes, set my BLU-R1-PLUS to use my SD card as internal storage, and I know that some of the apps will remain on the phone, but it will integrate and use this SD card so that it can run a bit more smoothly.
I am also aware that if when a SD card is assigned and formatted as internal storage, it will be unusable outside the phone, and therefore it will not be readable in other operating systems or PCs.
As I mentioned in my first posts, the biggest problem with the BLU-R1-PLUS is that when allocating a microSD memory as internal memory and installing more than 300-400 APPs, it seems that the Android6 system does not support having so many APPs installed or perhaps the memory gets congested or fragmented?
Interestingly, as I have 6 BLU-R1HD, I have also found that this same problem occurs with all my BLU-R1HD with Android-6.
I have also seen some videos on YouTube, and I have read that this seems to be a very common problem in cell phones with Andro6.
I say this because I also have a BLU-VIVO-8, with a 128GB microSD memory card (used as internal memory) and installed more than 600 APPs and up to 900 APPs, and I have not noticed this problem.
So, I'm starting to believe that as the BLU-VIVO-8 comes with Android Nougat-7, maybe Google has already corrected all these memory problems in this new version 7 of Android.
In addition, as the BLU-VIVO-8 has 4GB of memory and 64GB of Storage, it may be that today's Android system is requiring more memory and the 4GB of Vivo8 make this phone work more smoothly.
Have you folks tried switching to a different mSD card, different/smaller capacity ?
I had issues running debloated v8.4 and 8.5 earlier - properly formatting (FAT32) a new mSD card (Class 10) with my Linux desktop PC seemed to help, or least the problem hasn't returned ... yet.
The older mSD card is now used in a backup Motorola Moto E (running stock Android 5.x) and no errors, used it for storing images & mp4's mostly.
Keep in mind the Blu R1HD is really a $50+ basic but reliable smartphone, most of us running almost stock Android without bloatware - and it is NOT a mid-level one with all the bells & whistles, let alone a high end device ... I.M.H.O. - loading 100+ Apps on it, moving them to the mSD card is just going to put lots of extra "demands" on the hardware & OS, grounds for trouble & things to go off tracks.
My SIL is using the 2nd. one, both running V9.0 with the newest Security patches - Super SU on it, Magisk on the other - Xposed Installer & Gravity Box only with SU ... haven't noticed any mSD errors for last 3 months, used to drive me crazy with the random errors when rebooting or starting it up, losing the contents & had to restore/move/copy them back again from cloud storage.
Letitride said:
Have you folks tried switching to a different mSD card, different/smaller capacity ?
I had issues running debloated v8.4 and 8.5 earlier - properly formatting (FAT32) a new mSD card (Class 10) with my Linux desktop PC seemed to help, or least the problem hasn't returned ... yet.
The older mSD card is now used in a backup Motorola Moto E (running stock Android 5.x) and no errors, used it for storing images & mp4's mostly.
Keep in mind the Blu R1HD is really a $50+ basic but reliable smartphone, most of us running almost stock Android without bloatware - and it is NOT a mid-level one with all the bells & whistles, let alone a high end device ... I.M.H.O. - loading 100+ Apps on it, moving them to the mSD card is just going to put lots of extra "demands" on the hardware & OS, grounds for trouble & things to go off tracks.
My SIL is using the 2nd. one, both running V9.0 with the newest Security patches - Super SU on it, Magisk on the other - Xposed Installer & Gravity Box only with SU ... haven't noticed any mSD errors for last 3 months, used to drive me crazy with the random errors when rebooting or starting it up, losing the contents & had to restore/move/copy them back again from cloud storage.
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Letitride, thanks for trying to help with this matter!
Yes, I already tested with different brands of microSD cards, of different capacities: 16 GB, 32 GB, 64 GB and 128 GB, and these problems always appeared in the BLU-R1-PLUS and the BLU-R1HD, but as I said before, in my new BLU-VIVO-8 they have never manifested.
So, I think you could be right, it seems that when you install more than 100 applications on these low-end phones and move them to the microSD card, this imposes many additional "demands" on the hardware and operating system, which could cause problems and damage to the data in this microSD card, after a certain time of using the cellphone.

Does 'adaptable' storage on the Note 8?

Has anyone tried the 'adaptable' storage hack on the Note 8 yet?
Worked on my S7.
I have the same question
I was thinking about doing this but from what I hear it's more trouble than it's worth but if anyone whose done it would like to chime in I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate it.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I was thinking about doing this but from what I hear it's more trouble than it's worth but if anyone whose done it would like to chime in I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate it.
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I feel the same way. More trouble than its worth. The 64GB is plenty for all your apps and for everything else you have your fat Micro SD card.
I can't find half a reason to bother with it. 1. Many apps, especially larger one will use SD card for storage, if not you can set it to do so in settings. 2. SD card is slower than internal memory, so frequently used programs shouldn't be there 3. It creates whole lot of problems if SD card goes bad and yes, had this happen to me multiple times on Sandisk included. 4. it can get complicated when you swap the cards between phones, computers etc and you use the phone without dedicated SD card inside 5. If you really think 64GB internal storage doesn't do it, hunt for elusive 128 and 256 GB versions. They should show up somewhere.
The only a reason to do it I can think off: "because I can?"
I wouldn't do it unless the UFS ever comes out. Supposed to be a lot faster external storage.
Sent from my LGV20 using yo Mama's unlocked bootloader.
If anybody does want to enable adoptable storage on the Note8 despite the potential issues, try ashyx's patch here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/patch-adoptable-storage-enabler-t3460478
Note:
- You will need TWRP installed.
- It might not work for you. I've only tested it with Renovate.
- You will need to use adb to set up your sd card.
You won't do it on an unrooted phone. Samsung never implemented it.
The phone's built in memory is far faster than any SD card at this point. You'd be slowing your phone down... and not by just a little bit.
I beg to differ
Agree the phones internal memory is tops right now.
Disagree the phone will be slow if you offload storage.
Source: i have virtually every app i use daily (Save a couple) moved to SD card and ive noticed NO.. I repeat NO.. noticeable difference in speed or issue by moving these apps. And im talking about WhatsApp, textra, several video playing apps, Instagram, Snapchat, outlook mobile, and some other apps.
There is SOME residual data from these apps that LIVE on the internal storage—perhaps this left over data keeps the app from bottlenecking from the SD card. This is speculation though.
If interested, in mexico, the largest carrier, telcel offers the 128 Gb model

adoptable Storage under PIE.

Have anyone tried formatting the SD card as internal using the SM Partition command over adb?
We (me and my group on WhatsApp) have and it always corrupt the card, I am here now, because I would like to learn how to look for clues to troubleshoot this.
Because it makes no sense at all, pie is compatible with using adoptable storage and FBE, in custom rooms we are able to use this feature, feels odd that in the official rom we can't.
adAptable storage
LionLorena said:
Have anyone tried formatting the SD card as internal using the SM Partition command over adb?
We (me and my group on WhatsApp) have and it always corrupt the card, I am here now, because I would like to learn how to look for clues to troubleshoot this.
Because it makes no sense at all, pie is compatible with using adAptable storage and FBE, in custom rooms we are able to use this feature, feels odd that in the official rom we can't.
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I am also interested in this. Has anyone had success in setting up adaptable storage on Pie?
Tried with a 8gb sandisk... corrupted sd card after the process
i've tried with this tutorial: https://stackoverflow.com/questions...sd-card-into-internal-storage-via-adb-command
The problem is that modern consumer grade SD cards are not reliable for using as SSD. The number of write cycles is limited, the garbage management may corrupt card on certain conditions, etc. It is good enough that we can use SD card for camera and videos.
bookworth said:
The problem is that modern consumer grade SD cards are not reliable for using as SSD. The number of write cycles is limited, the garbage management may corrupt card on certain conditions, etc. It is good enough that we can use SD card for camera and videos.
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That's not really a problem.
You see, the SD card lasting around the same time as your device is all there's needed, because it's almost certain that when you replace your device you're probably gonna get a newer, better and larger card along with it.
Or on the off chance you're not, you can "afford" to lose a SD card faster because they are usually cheaper than a SSD, not to mention that apps usually have way less writing to the card can computer programs so it may even outlast SSDs.
I take my SanDisk exterme pro for example.
I have it it's been 3 years now and it's still performing exceptionally.
I've formated it countless times, as internal, as external, multi parted it for Link2SD, made and used SWAP partitions for expansion in performance on low ram phones, hell I used this card a lot and the old faithful is still kicking.
Formatting doesn't do anything to the card, writing gigabytes of data does and disconnecting power at the wrong moment does.
Not everyone buys extreme pro cards - most of the guys who can not afford bigger SSD will also buy cheaper SD cards - because, you know, they are cheaper. And no manufacturer is willing to explain why you lost your important pictures of your baby's 7 day anniversary.
If you want cheap solutions then go for cheaper products - I believe Moto G5 has the feature you are interested in. Maybe this is because with slower CPU's the user has less actual options for wrecking the SD card.
After the Pie update, In the Moto Help app under LEARN, I found this:
"Change storage type" "Go to Settings>Storage>Touch SD Card name>3 dots>Storage Settings>Format as Internal or Format as Portable". (I tried to upload a pic, but it won't load)
I haven't tried this as I am waiting on a new UHS-1 SD card hopefully delivered today! Also under the Moto Help app: "Using SD card as extended Internal Storage" you need to have a high speed SD card such as a UHS-1, "you can move DL apps, app files, media files to the card. This card is NOT readable in other devices and cannot be decrypted on other devices". Hope this helps...
PowurPlayr said:
After the Pie update, In the Moto Help app under LEARN, I found this:
"Change storage type" "Go to Settings>Storage>Touch SD Card name>3 dots>Storage Settings>Format as Internal or Format as Portable". (I tried to upload a pic, but it won't load)
I haven't tried this as I am waiting on a new UHS-1 SD card hopefully delivered today! Also under the Moto Help app: "Using SD card as extended Internal Storage" you need to have a high speed SD card such as a UHS-1, "you can move DL apps, app files, media files to the card. This card is NOT readable in other devices and cannot be decrypted on other devices". Hope this helps...
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Yeah it is supposed to be this way, but when you format the card it gives no such option.
I think the rom is bugged because the restrictions imposed was on fbe, now that pie fixed this, there's no such restrictions.
On custom ROMs this works as intended.
LionLorena said:
Yeah it is supposed to be this way, but when you format the card it gives no such option.
I think the rom is bugged because the restrictions imposed was on fbe, now that pie fixed this, there's no such restrictions.
On custom ROMs this works as intended.
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Which custom ROM this feature works?
abrfilho said:
Which custom ROM this feature works?
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As I have tested the Havoc was, and several folks on my WhatsApp group reported Lineage to be working too.
typically when I have a card go read only (bad) I clone it to a new card and it continues to work in the device. The whole encryption system in android is kind of a bummer because you can't read it on another devices. There is a lot of compromises for security that are made to satisfy the least common denominator. Like they could offer you a way to back up the key to another location, etc.
Not being able to use my 128gb card as internal on my X4 has me a little regretful for leaving Apple. If I had known they took that option away I would have sprung for another model. Hopefully they'll change that. I'm on stock Android Pie, so if any custom ROMs are out there I'm all ears?
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Not being able to use my 128gb card as internal on my X4 has me a little regretful for leaving Apple. If I had known they took that option away I would have sprung for another model. Hopefully they'll change that. I'm on stock Android Pie, so if any custom ROMs are out there I'm all ears?
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I recently purchased my new moto x⁴ after my beloved moto G6 (needs to be repaired [trying to get an estimate from Motorola] as both front and back are shattered).
I'm baffled about the storage limitations for SDcard integration as well. I'm struggling with this low storage space warnings with 32GB but far less for actual storage because of the incredibly huge system files. My 128GB available space on my SDcard is just 128GB when it makes no use via x⁴ .
Updated to PIE but making use of more storage capacity doesn't seem to be a priority. Can't wait until my moto G6 returns but I'll continue to research and see what options are available on x⁴.
Any and ALL advices are most welcomed with a huge thank you in advance.
SOMNER
somner said:
I recently purchased my new moto x⁴ after my beloved moto G6 (needs to be repaired [trying to get an estimate from Motorola] as both front and back are shattered).
I'm baffled about the storage limitations for SDcard integration as well. I'm struggling with this low storage space warnings with 32GB but far less for actual storage because of the incredibly huge system files. My 128GB available space on my SDcard is just 128GB when it makes no use via x⁴ .
Updated to PIE but making use of more storage capacity doesn't seem to be a priority. Can't wait until my moto G6 returns but I'll continue to research and see what options are available on x⁴.
Any and ALL advices are most welcomed with a huge thank you in advance.
SOMNER
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Same issue here. I bought the phone and even bought 128gb extra sd card to increase the space. But after I opened and inserted my card I realized it's not showing up extra space. I searched through many forums and found out that's it not possible to do so. I have tried ADB tool and formatted it as internal memory as per steps mentioned. But once I do that it says my SD card is corrupted.
Not sure what is the reason for giving SD card when you cant use it as internal storage. You don't have a gallery app and you already have all your photos going to your google photos, whats the use here.
As you said, will wait if anyone finds a solution. Please do post here in case you find a solution, I will do as well.
Thanks
kaka1981 said:
Same issue here. I bought the phone and even bought 128gb extra sd card to increase the space. But after I opened and inserted my card I realized it's not showing up extra space. I searched through many forums and found out that's it not possible to do so. I have tried ADB tool and formatted it as internal memory as per steps mentioned. But once I do that it says my SD card is corrupted.
Not sure what is the reason for giving SD card when you cant use it as internal storage. You don't have a gallery app and you already have all your photos going to your google photos, whats the use here.
As you said, will wait if anyone finds a solution. Please do post here in case you find a solution, I will do as well.
Thanks
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You can set the moto camera to write to scard is probably the biggest reason, outside of music storage. It does suck adaptable storage isnt working/supported.
SchmilK said:
You can set the moto camera to write to scard is probably the biggest reason, outside of music storage. It does suck adaptable storage isnt working/supported.
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Is the default storage of the camera photos to phone or its auto saving to google photos?
kaka1981 said:
Is the default storage of the camera photos to phone or its auto saving to google photos?
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Default is internal, but can be set too sdcard.
Then Google photos will detect a new folder and an if you want to synch
SchmilK said:
Default is internal, but can be set too sdcard.
Then Google photos will detect a new folder and an if you want to synch
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Last time I changed to SD card, the "Free up space" in Google Photos did not work for some reason.
jhedfors said:
Last time I changed to SD card, the "Free up space" in Google Photos did not work for some reason.
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Hm, I'm more paranoid than you, I transfer my pictures to my computer to free space.

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