Orange branding? - RAZR i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
If I buy this phone from Orange/EE does anyone know what extra rubbish comes with the phone that they put on?
Or is it still pretty much the same as if I bought a generic one from somewhere like Amazon?
Sam

flashsam said:
Hi,
If I buy this phone from Orange/EE does anyone know what extra rubbish comes with the phone that they put on?
Or is it still pretty much the same as if I bought a generic one from somewhere like Amazon?
Sam
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It will be branded and so will get delayed updates. If you want an unbranded one that's still subsidized by a contract go to Carphone Warehouse or Phones4U.

Also you could buy an unbranded one from this site called LambdaTek. Site looks bad but It's where I got mine from and its cheaper than CPW
www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?region=GB&prodID=2524366

i5r431 said:
Also you could buy an unbranded one from this site called LambdaTek. Site looks bad but It's where I got mine from and its cheaper than CPW
www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?region=GB&prodID=2524366
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Thanks for that. Although once you add on postage it's only £2.50 more to buy it from Amazon and I know that they have a great returns policy (just in case!)

RAZRi_Man said:
It will be branded and so will get delayed updates. If you want an unbranded one that's still subsidized by a contract go to Carphone Warehouse or Phones4U.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm aware that it will be branded. I'm just wondering exactly what the difference would be on an Orange branded phone. If the delayed updates are the only difference then that doesn't bother me too much but if they add loads of Orange software or disable things then that matters more to me.

flashsam said:
Thanks for the reply. I'm aware that it will be branded. I'm just wondering exactly what the difference would be on an Orange branded phone. If the delayed updates are the only difference then that doesn't bother me too much but if they add loads of Orange software or disable things then that matters more to me.
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I don't know if they would disable WiFi tethering...that's the only thing I can think of them possibly wanting to disable. Maybe someone else knows.

Orange have indeed disabled the WiFi hotspot functionality.
I found a thread which showed how to amend the APN settings to re-allow the hotspot to work but the APN's are locked.
The solution is to create a new APN using the details from the below link and now the hotspot works perfectly.
http://www.burnedouthippy.com/2011/...onnection-problem-on-the-htc-desireorange-uk/

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Diamond on PR

Hello everyone, I'm new in this and English is not my first language so excuse me for my bad english. I'm planing to buy the HTC Diamond but I live in PR and I'm stock with cingular for one more year I think, so if I buy the phone what do I have to do to make it work with my cingular SIM card?
thanks
Where are you planning to buy it from?
I'm planning to buy it from ebay. Is there any web site where I can find it for less?
Mine works in PR
I can tell you about my experience with the sprint one. I ordered the day it arrived on US and when it got here the net wasn't working and overall crappy. Sure most of the problems are now fixed but thanks to the community. You can try it normally or you can purchase on of these to make it work.
http://www.opirata.com/sigma-xsim-alpha-p-1718.html
You can always try CTI-Miami, or some other third party reseller. Also, you just need to put the SIM card from your old phone into your diamond for it to work (that's all you need to do).
so I don't have to unlocked it or do anything like that? It will work with my cingular SIM.
kuraicircuit said:
so I don't have to unlocked it or do anything like that? It will work with my cingular SIM.
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well, as long as you buy a unlocked one, then you will be fine. (it should be unlocked anyway, since at&t isn't offering the diamond.)
The unlocked ones are more expensive than the ones that are for sprint, isn’t and easy way to unlocked them by myself?
kuraicircuit said:
The unlocked ones are more expensive than the ones that are for sprint, isn’t and easy way to unlocked them by myself?
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you can't use the one for Sprint on at&t, they use two totally different technologies, GSM vs. CDMA. so even if you buy the sprint one, you can't use it on at&t.
ok, thankyou everyone for your help!!!!! I guess I will have to save a bit more haha.

S3 i9305 LTE unlocking advice please

Hi guys just bought a new samsung S3 i9305 LTE but its on orange (uk) and i want to use it on t-mobile (uk), can any give me some instructions on what software to use where to get the software and how to use the software please?
also is it different software to unlock the S3 LTE and If root my S3 LTE will it affect the fuctionality of the 4G when it launch?
thanks for any help
sealover1 said:
Hi guys just bought a new samsung S3 i9305 LTE but its on orange (uk) and i want to use it on t-mobile (uk), can any give me some instructions on what software to use where to get the software and how to use the software please?
also is it different software to unlock the S3 LTE and If root my S3 LTE will it affect the fuctionality of the 4G when it launch?
thanks for any help
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Orange and T-Mobile phones don't need unlocking if used on each others network
Yeah, very technically, Orange and T-Mobile don't exist anymore. My GF's S3 says "EE" on it now.
yeh they do seem to work with t-mobile in and my mrs put her o2 sim in and that works as well ... was told they were locked but seems to be working fine on orange , o2 and t-mobile which is lucky as no body seems to know how to unlock the LTE 4g models yet...
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yeh they do seem to work with t-mobile in and my mrs put her o2 sim in and that works as well ... was told they were locked but seems to be working fine on orange , o2 and t-mobile which is lucky as no body seems to know how to unlock the LTE 4g models yet...
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Hi mate, did you buy your S3 LTE from Orange Pay as you go and managed to use a o2 Sim card without unlocking?
As I'm planning on getting the same phone but using my o2 sim card, if you can confirm this that would be great
Also is there an Orange splash screen on start up of the phone, how much Orange branding is there?
Cheers
lainuxuk said:
Hi mate, did you buy your S3 LTE from Orange Pay as you go and managed to use a o2 Sim card without unlocking?
As I'm planning on getting the same phone but using my o2 sim card, if you can confirm this that would be great
Also is there an Orange splash screen on start up of the phone, how much Orange branding is there?
Cheers
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yes m8 I bought 2 of them both on orange and they both work with orange, t-mobile, and o2... been few days now and rebooted and all seems fine still
sorry.. theres no orange branding on either of our phones why should there be?
sealover1 said:
yes m8 I bought 2 of them both on orange and they both work with orange, t-mobile, and o2... been few days now and rebooted and all seems fine still
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Cool nice one Is there an Orange branded splash screen when you start up the phone
Thanks for the quick reply!
lainuxuk said:
Cool nice one Is there an Orange branded splash screen when you start up the phone
Thanks for the quick reply!
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theres no orange branding on either of our phones why should there be?
sealover1 said:
theres no orange branding on either of our phones why should there be?
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Good to hear!
I thought Orange would put their own ROM/branded software onto the phone as the S3 LTE appears to be exclusive to orange at the moment.
Thanks for your info, think I'm going to order my S3 LTE titanium tonight from Orange
lainuxuk said:
Good to hear!
I thought Orange would put their own ROM/branded software onto the phone as the S3 LTE appears to be exclusive to orange at the moment.
Thanks for your info, think I'm going to order my S3 LTE titanium tonight from Orange tonight
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no there not exclusive to orange youcan buy them on ebay from most now, mine is orange but it was bought from a t-mobile shop as they were only £449 each two days before they were £360 i was gutted lol
sealover1 said:
no there not exclusive to orange youcan buy them on ebay from most now, mine is orange but it was bought from a t-mobile shop as they were only £449 each two days before they were £360 i was gutted lol
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Out of curiousity have you tried another Network sim apart from Orange/T-Mobile/O2 and does it work
lainuxuk said:
Out of curiousity have you tried another Network sim apart from Orange/T-Mobile/O2 and does it work
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no that was the only sims we had to hand but as sims are free now if someone wants to send me a diff one to try for them i could do for them if they liked
Ordered my phone from the Orange website tonight, should be with me on Monday, fingers crossed my ones works with o2 too
lainuxuk said:
Ordered my phone from the Orange website tonight, should be with me on Monday, fingers crossed my ones works with o2 too
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Fingers crossed mate let me know how you get on
lainuxuk said:
Ordered my phone from the Orange website tonight, should be with me on Monday, fingers crossed my ones works with o2 too
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Fingers crossed mate let me know how you get on
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Fingers crossed mate let me know how you get on
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My T-Mobile handset will not work with my GiffGaff SIM. Has anyone else tried this combination?
lainuxuk said:
Ordered my phone from the Orange website tonight, should be with me on Monday, fingers crossed my ones works with o2 too
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Mate I ordered my i9305 from orange on pay as you natter on 9 October - still haven't got it yet. Not sure if I'm particularly unlucky of if the titanium version is just out of stock but I've chased them twice and checking online it just says order is being readied for dispatch. When i made the order it said on the receipt it would be sent out within 2 days but that was clearly a lie!
Would be interested to know how quickly yours arrives. Also how are people getting hold of the t-mob payg version? I thought it was only available from orange online on payg...
Aeroadster said:
My T-Mobile handset will not work with my GiffGaff SIM. Has anyone else tried this combination?
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I have a spare GiffGaff sim, shall give it a try when my handset arrives, my e-mail said it would arrive with me on Monday, though not received a dispatch e-mail yet.
i bought mine in a t-mobile shop for £449 the gun metal gry as well. never wanted to wait for the post lol
Yesterday I bought titanium i9305 from ee store and cancelled my order from orange online, should have done it weeks ago.
Bought an unlock code from mobileunlocked, cost 15 quid and phone was unlocked and using giffgaff SIM in less than 20 mins.
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Voda vs P4U on branding.

In the process of negotiating an upgrade deal. Currently on Voda.
Just wanted to know the difference between getting the phone from Vodafone or P4U.
Does the branding make much difference ??
branded phones seem to get updates later as they have to get branding added and in some cases don't get some update at all due to vodafone/networks not signing the ok on versions
Huge difference as stated above, update always comes late on branded phones, or never come.
But unbranded phone gets updates directly from HTC not vodafone so you are guaranteed to have them as soon as they are released.
Also, you have no bloatware on unbranded phones, and normally unbranded phones are unlocked on any network meaning when you sell the phone, it worthes more. But there are exceptions, my galaxy s3 lte is unbranded but locked to orange.
Anyway, if p4u's price is acceptable, better go with them. I sacrificed my 40% off discount with Orange and went upgrade with p4u even paying a bit more, but I never regretted.
Anyone actually got a branded phone?
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I can't comment on voda but I've just recieved a branded device from EE and Tbh there is no bloat or pre installed crapps in fact it looks completely the way HTC intended. I'm guessing different networks will have different amounts of input but more are straying away from loading the handsets with crap for update purposes. If your rooted it don't matter anyway.
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I read reports on the Vodafone forum of their customers receiving phones that have Vodafone on the bootscreen, definitely branded and I would definitely avoid that if you can P4U will be unbranded and will of course price match anyway.
Electronic Punk said:
I read reports on the Vodafone forum of their customers receiving phones that have Vodafone on the bootscreen, definitely branded and I would definitely avoid that if you can P4U will be unbranded and will of course price match anyway.
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Can confirm the Vodafone version has a Vodafone boot and shutdown screen. They haven't put any bloatware on it but it's definitely branded
Is there any branding on the phone itself or just software?
I have the "One" branded to Three. As far as i can see there are branded start and shutdown and two branded apps "Three Music" and "Three Games". They seem to have also installed the Amazon and Ebay apps.. I think given a chance i'll be installed the HTC standard build as soon as one is available... neither of the above apps are worth anything to me..
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Can confirm the Vodafone version has a Vodafone boot and shutdown screen. They haven't put any bloatware on it but it's definitely branded
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Sorry to clarify, the hardware is identical and has no Vodafone markings.
The phones software is Vodafone branded and comes with both their CID and usual bloat.
Just to throw this out there.
When I had a unbranded S3 Vodafone users got their official OTA updates before me.
Pretty sure you could use Kies to get it the same time if you really wanted.
With Samsung you would never be left hanging for a JB compatible HBOOT if you wanted it.
Electronic Punk said:
I read reports on the Vodafone forum of their customers receiving phones that have Vodafone on the bootscreen, definitely branded and I would definitely avoid that if you can P4U will be unbranded and will of course price match anyway.
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Your not wrong I got a simfree device from them on contract.
Good times.
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It's got no Vodafone branding on the actual handset, and no pre-installed apps, only the Voda logo when staring up and shutting down
Yeah thing is...your cid
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Hi I have question, I get today HTC One Gold from P4U and there is Vodafone branded rom, I konow was lots question about this but can someone write me step by step what I spouse to do to get on my HTC One factory clear rom and after get update via OTA.
Thanks

Any Canadians with carrier locked z1?

Would you please post if the bootloaders are locked or unlocked on your device and from which carrier thanks
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Bootloader is locked, Rogers C6906 , but network is unlockable if you purchase code. if you want an unlockable bootloader, 100% avoid sim-locked phone, just buy a sim free phone.
Where did you purchase the unlock code from ?
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Well, Google "unlock cell", unveils return tons of option, you will need to do research which one is reliable tho, some people go on ebay and it is cheaper at your own risk.
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maxboy said:
Bootloader is locked, Rogers C6906 , but network is unlockable if you purchase code. if you want an unlockable bootloader, 100% avoid sim-locked phone, just buy a sim free phone.
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Where did you get your 6906?...
Can you get more and sell em on ebay ?
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greatremix said:
Where did you get your 6906?...
Can you get more and sell em on ebay ?
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Arr.....i got mine from rogers, they seem to have some stocks that they said just drop by, no need to hold or reserve. so i GUESS Sony store has unlock phone in-stock too.
and i won't get more or selling, so, sorry man, lol.
Is Sony selling unlocked LTE model in Canada or only HSPA+?
maxboy said:
Arr.....i got mine from rogers, they seem to have some stocks that they said just drop by, no need to hold or reserve. so i GUESS Sony store has unlock phone in-stock too.
and i won't get more or selling, so, sorry man, lol.
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I am here in U.S. so I am definitely out of luck. /_\
maxboy said:
Bootloader is locked, Rogers C6906 , but network is unlockable if you purchase code. if you want an unlockable bootloader, 100% avoid sim-locked phone, just buy a sim free phone.
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Can you please try this to see if the bootloader is unlockable or not ? Thanks !
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
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attanasi0 said:
Can you please try this to see if the bootloader is unlockable or not ? Thanks !
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It is not
Bootloader unlock allowed: No
Roger 6906
fredastere said:
It is not
Bootloader unlock allowed: No
Roger 6906
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Ah damn ! Merci !
Unfortunately no Sony Store in the Toronto area has any unlocked phones in stock, or if they did they are hoarding them
Supposedly the stores will be getting their unlocked phones on Friday and stores are doing pre-orders now. This whole "launch" is pretty discouraging - as it seems like there are not that many phones available - my local store is only getting 4 black phones - I'm number 5 so won't be getting one until the end of October - which is when the next shipment is expected. I wasn't even told there was a pre-order system setup - even when I visited the store beforehand trying to get a glimpse of a display model. There wasn't any then, but there is one now - so my trip wasn't a total waste of time. Finally got a chance to see a working model.
Locked phones are available but seem to be selling slower - either that or they got more stock. Maybe Sony Canada didn't anticipate there would be demand for off-contract phones?
If anybody knows of any Toronto/GTA locations that still have open pre-orders I would like to know. A friend just picked up a Rogers locked one today.
ksoze said:
Unfortunately no Sony Store in the Toronto area has any unlocked phones in stock, or if they did they are hoarding them
Supposedly the stores will be getting their unlocked phones on Friday and stores are doing pre-orders now. This whole "launch" is pretty discouraging - as it seems like there are not that many phones available - my local store is only getting 4 black phones - I'm number 5 so won't be getting one until the end of October - which is when the next shipment is expected. I wasn't even told there was a pre-order system setup - even when I visited the store beforehand trying to get a glimpse of a display model. There wasn't any then, but there is one now - so my trip wasn't a total waste of time. Finally got a chance to see a working model.
Locked phones are available but seem to be selling slower - either that or they got more stock. Maybe Sony Canada didn't anticipate there would be demand for off-contract phones?
If anybody knows of any Toronto/GTA locations that still have open pre-orders I would like to know. A friend just picked up a Rogers locked one today.
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unlocked one doesn't start distributing until Friday at the earliest, yeah, they are only allocating a tiny amount to Canada which is why we are getting it first before the US.
attanasi0 said:
Ah damn ! Merci !
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anyone in canada get the new firmware update?
Gitaroo said:
anyone in canada get the new firmware update?
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I'm all updated and running on 14.1.G.1.534
So guess we're still one rev behind.
Hold on guys - what does this mean for US people? I'm about to get a Canadian friend to buy a Z1 from Bell and ship it over to me in the US for use with AT&T. Will I have any issues? I don't want to return another phone if it doesn't work for me.
AhsanU said:
Hold on guys - what does this mean for US people? I'm about to get a Canadian friend to buy a Z1 from Bell and ship it over to me in the US for use with AT&T. Will I have any issues? I don't want to return another phone if it doesn't work for me.
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I would advise against getting a Bell model - unless you're getting a discount. If you're paying the full price that Bell is asking for ($699 + tax), you might as well get the factory unlocked version directly from Sony for the same price. Rogers has the purple colour locked down if that's your preference, so only Black or White available from other sources.
ksoze said:
I would advise against getting a Bell model - unless you're getting a discount. If you're paying the full price that Bell is asking for ($699 + tax), you might as well get the factory unlocked version directly from Sony for the same price. Rogers has the purple colour locked down if that's your preference, so only Black or White available from other sources.
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Thing is, I've gotten pretty desperate. I contacted Bell and in order to be able to use the phone in the US, the carrier does need to unlock it. That's an added fee of 60 dollars from Bell. I also contacted a Sony store in Markham, ON and they said that the earliest I can get an unlocked one from them would be a month or so from now, or until their next shipment.
AhsanU said:
Thing is, I've gotten pretty desperate. I contacted Bell and in order to be able to use the phone in the US, the carrier does need to unlock it. That's an added fee of 60 dollars from Bell. I also contacted a Sony store in Markham, ON and they said that the earliest I can get an unlocked one from them would be a month or so from now, or until their next shipment.
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Just buy direct from Sony man - no need to pay extra for carrier unlock, and no carrier bloatware. Bell is selling it a $699, then you pay $60 to unlock, then there's the 13% Tax - that's about $860.
If you can't wait that long, see if you can get it from Rogers since they are selling it for $599 off-contract. At least you save a bit.
I myself will be getting it from my provider because hardware upgrade - picking one up tonight.
AhsanU said:
Thing is, I've gotten pretty desperate. I contacted Bell and in order to be able to use the phone in the US, the carrier does need to unlock it. That's an added fee of 60 dollars from Bell. I also contacted a Sony store in Markham, ON and they said that the earliest I can get an unlocked one from them would be a month or so from now, or until their next shipment.
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Alright - just got back home after fighting rush hour traffic from Yorkdale Mall.
This whole experience has seriously cast doubts as to whether I will ever purchase another new Sony phone again.
I have been given so much misinformation both over the phone and in person its getting ridiculous. It seems that they really want you to be physically at the store so that they can upsell you on other items - I was told over the phone that the box doesn't contain headphones, so that I should go there and pick out one or maybe even a bluetooth headset. All this when I just simply asked about the pre-order status.
The latest I have heard was that all stores are taking pre-orders and the warehouse will be shipping out units to the stores as they are placed. I had one salesperson tell me over the phone that the black unit was heavily back ordered (negative inventory), while the white was still available - only to get to the store and told that it doesn't matter - they're both backordered. They can't even guess at when I would be getting a phone. I was also told that the 18th was the official launch date and they weren't allowed to release the phones, which coincides with other info from this thread. The problem is that I was also told today that the Upper Canada Mall location had inventory since yesterday and they just sold the last one today!!! WTF? I've been told that I would get one next week, end of Oct. or even next month - this has all been extremely frustrating.
I really wish they would just allow you to pre-order online and have it shipped to the store like a normal retailer would.
AhsanU - if you want to put me in contact with your friend I can let them know when I receive my phones (2 on pre order), or ask them to get to the closest Sony store and just put down a deposit and hope for the best. Bell and Rogers are notorious for overcharging for everything, whereas Telus is a bit better, but they will all take advantage you given the chance. The unlocking fee is only supposed to be $50 but I'm not sure if they included the tax already. Why do they insist on locking the phones when you're either buying the phone outright or signing a contract that stipulates financial penalties when breaking said contract. In Asia, none of the phones are locked and companies actually compete with each other. I just hope there is a special place in hell for all these telecommunication executives...

Best model to buy and where?

I am looking for a bit smaller phone than my G2 and the Z3 Compact looks like the one I will go with. I see it isnt even out in the US yet, and I am on ATT. I will be buying the phone off contract though so which model should I get? I want to go with one that supports the LTE bands ATT uses, but also will have a lot of development for it. Also I need to be able to root it, and preferably unlock it, so that means any sort of ATT official model is probably out of the question, if they even get any model. Seems like only TMobile gets the Xperia phones in the US all the time.
You want the D5803. Buying it from either Clove or Handtec will get you the best price.
mattdm said:
You want the D5803. Buying it from either Clove or Handtec will get you the best price.
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Alright thanks
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Alright thanks
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Just remember, like several of the threads here say, make sure the AT&T store you go to for your nanosim does not use the IMEI from the Z3C. Tell them to use the IMEI from your G2 instead.

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