[POLL] Z or ZL which would you choose ? - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys ! Like many of you I've read a lot of reviews and watched videos of this two awesome devices and have a hard time deciding which of them should I get (the price is not a killer factor) . So from the first look I was really impressed by Z's water- and dustproof capabilities as well as it's premium materials (tempered glass etc.) However , I was a bit discouraged with those rubbery plugs hiding all ports. I mean I understand their purpose but firstly I'm a bit afraid that past time they will get cranky or something if use them regulary. Moreover I am constanly loading files through Usb and listening to music , so I will have to open up plugs for mini jack and usb pretty frequently ... That's why I started to give preference to ZL which is plug free and is a bit smaller which is also good point for it . On the dark side I must say that I like Z's back cover way more than ZL's (looks cheaper at least on videos) which is made of plastic ... Can live with it,but I pay a lot of attention for the build quality of the device and just not sure that the plastic cover of ZL will be rock solid as Z's glass (but I hope ) So for now I have this thoughts and my choise meter is like ZL 45% - 55% Z . Share your thouths on this guys I'm sure some of your arguments might help me abd other folks to make the best decision
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Re: Z or ZL which would you choose ?
since you've said that build quality is important i think Z will have bit of an advantage on this front as you yourself know . Moreover i don't think the covered ports would pose much of a hindrance even if you are constantly transferring files via usb - you'll learn to handle it the way it needs to be handled in due time . The only plus of ZL from my point of view is its smaller dimensions (which i personally love). So if i were you Z would have been my obvious choice .
why fix it if it ain't broken ?

The water resistance of the Z was not made for you to shoot pictures while scuba diving but was only made for certain occasions where you need to use the phone to text while standing on an open area and got a broken umbrella lol or in case you drop it to some shallow water. So with those instances even a worn out plugs for the ports would work. On the plastic back cover of ZL can't really say anything as I haven't seen the device close up so cannot comment on how the plastic is built. It could be prone to cracks when dropped unless it's made of some special material.
Also with regards to the tempered glass durability I can't imagine it not breaking/chipping parts of it if it ever fall on a hard concrete but on the Xperia ZL it "may" only bounce off without any damage.

Re: Z or ZL which would you choose ?
Z for me. Water and dust resistance are big deals to me since I've lost 2 phones before to dunking.
That bit of reassurance is fantastic and you wouldn't expect it in a device that looks that sleek.

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beeboss said:
Hi guys ! Like many of you I've read a lot of reviews and watched videos of this two awesome devices and have a hard time deciding which of them should I get (the price is not a killer factor) . So from the first look I was really impressed by Z's water- and dustproof capabilities as well as it's premium materials (tempered glass etc.) However , I was a bit discouraged with those rubbery plugs hiding all ports. I mean I understand their purpose but firstly I'm a bit afraid that past time they will get cranky or something if use them regulary. Moreover I am constanly loading files through Usb and listening to music , so I will have to open up plugs for mini jack and usb pretty frequently ... That's why I started to give preference to ZL which is plug free and is a bit smaller which is also good point for it . On the dark side I must say that I like Z's back cover way more than ZL's (looks cheaper at least on videos) which is made of plastic ... Can live with it,but I pay a lot of attention for the build quality of the device and just not sure that the plastic cover of ZL will be rock solid as Z's glass (but I hope ) So for now I have this thoughts and my choise meter is like ZL 45% - 55% Z . Share your thouths on this guys I'm sure some of your arguments might help me abd other folks to make the best decision
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Z... she has a sexy back

Coming from the galaxy s2 i would 100% go for the z over the zl. I want a phone that feels premium but that is also going to last for a 2 year period.
I can see your point about the rubber casing for the ports, but i am hoping they will be of good enough quality not to crack or go loose.

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Coming from the galaxy s2 i would 100% go for the z over the zl. I want a phone that feels premium but that is also going to last for a 2 year period.
I can see your point about the rubber casing for the ports, but i am hoping they will be of good enough quality not to crack or go loose.
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I just want the IR blaster on the ZL. will probably go with the Z though, the ZL's back is just not sexy after seeing the Z

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[Xperia T] Terrible build quality

I decided to change my aging Galaxy S II because its dev community becane stagnant (no kernel sources, tons of kangs). The XT sounded perfect on paper : 720p screen, 13mp camera, Krait chipset, good sound quality and some great devs migrated to it. However after a week of use I can't help but feel a bitter taste in my mouth for buying it sight unseen (this phone is very hard to get in my country). Here is my little "rant", structured in in bullet points:
1) The screen acquired TONS of microscratches in just a week. I knew sony doesn't use gorilla glass, but this is terrible. I can't even pull it out of my pocket w/o fearing that it will scratch . I am very careful with my phone (my S2 was in pristine condition after two months of use with no screen protectors/cases), so I doubt it's me. Also, the screen itself is pretty bad, but I won't complain too much about it since I read about this in reviews and various topics around here.
2) The case paint already started peeling. Not much, but at this rate it will look like it's 2 years old in just a month. Such a shame since I love the finish.
Another point of concern is the audio quality. It has a discernible hiss no matter what headphones or music app I use. It's even worse on CM10 and since I got this phone mostly for the dev community this just sucks donkey balls. Every respectable reviewer complained about the SQ of the S2 and its background noise caused by the CPU/radios and none about the XT and yet it is easier to notice on the XT.
What is your opinion about this? I've seen that some topics already covered some of these issues, but I think they need to be brought again to the attention of potential buyers.
LE: It seems that my headphone jack port is also very flimsy. It falls off every time I try to put on / take off my case.
Strange... My XT seems very robust, difficult to scratch and the ruberish coating seems perfect. Perhaps you should contact Sony and request a replacement. Check the booklets that came with it perhaps?
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1) There is a shatter proof sheet applied on it. So the micro scratches is technically on that, not on the screen itself. Peel that off and apply a new screen protector.
2) Is a known issue for LT30p? I havent seen anyone posting issues with LT30at or LT30a atm.
LitoNi said:
There is a shatter proof sheet applied on it. So the micro scratches is technically on that, not on the screen itself. Peel that off and apply a new screen protector.
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Is that sheet made of glass? I can't seem to be able to peel it. I heard that it should come with a screen protector, but i haven't found anything in the box.
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Is that sheet made of glass? I can't seem to be able to peel it. I heard that it should come with a screen protector, but i haven't found anything in the box.
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It's a very, very thick screen protector. It comes off but it takes some work. Trying to peel it off at the corners using a piece of paper seems to work best for most people, but you'll just have to spend some time on it if you really want to get it off
You should leave it on though, unless those microscratches really bother you.
On sound quality: it's perfectly fine for me and I use audiophile earbuds (these: https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7550/). It lacks a tiny bit of stereo separation and clarity, but not worse than any other phone at all.
I thought it's something like this one, but preapplied since it didn't come in the box. Any tutorials on how to do it? I already ordered a 3M screen protector which should be much harder to scratch.
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Also, what ROM/music player are you using?
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I thought it's something like this one, but preapplied since it didn't come in the box. Any tutorials on how to do it? I already ordered a 3M screen protector which should be much harder to scratch.
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Also, what ROM/music player are you using?
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In contrast to you, I am not discouraging anyone to buy it.
Well, I am using Xperia V (LT25i) and perhaps it has different build quality since it has to withstand dirt and water? It has a metal frame (looks like atleast) and rubber on the backside. It also came with an extra screen protector in the box. I know you don't care about Xperia V but maybe somebody reading this wants to know? Only downside are all these flipp flop USB-, charger and headphone openings that has to be sealed after use.
In regard to music player, PowerAmp is a must for best sound! :good:
Hope you don't feel too bad about the Xperia T and Happy New Year!
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In contrast to you, I am not discouraging anyone to buy it.
Well, I am using Xperia V (LT25i) and perhaps it has different build quality since it has to withstand dirt and water? It has a metal frame (looks like atleast) and rubber on the backside. It also came with an extra screen protector in the box. I know you don't care about Xperia V but maybe somebody reading this wants to know? Only downside are all these flipp flop USB-, charger and headphone openings that has to be sealed after use.
In regard to music player, PowerAmp is a must for best sound! :good:
Hope you don't feel too bad about the Xperia T and Happy New Year!
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Of course it has different build quality. The IP57 certification is pretty rough. And the screen might be different too.
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Of course it has different build quality. The IP57 certification is pretty rough. And the screen might be different too.
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I had mine since December 3rd with lots of time to test and use it. Maybe you got a faulty device, it happend to me before and I made DOA. Got a new phone in the shop next day.
Xperia V Walkman is good too, don't know if it is the same version as Xperia T.
Conclusion of Xperia V (if someone wants to know).
*No scratch on the display (one extra sheet in the box).
*Feels good in hand and sturdy built quality, no squeaky parts.
*Music and sound is fine, but if I want louder volume -I buy PowerAmp.
If it gets dirty-, too hot or scratched, just wash it with cold water.
My XT is perfect for me, I havn't any problem on screen or anything.
Sony Xperia T - Stock ROM - Firmware 7.0.3.195 - 4.1.2 Stock Leaked Launcher - Rooted soon.
Xperia V is also good and maybe more, but I like my phone !
Sony Xperia T - Stock ROM - Firmware 7.0.3.195 - 4.1.2 Stock Leaked Launcher - Rooted soon.
My T is perfectly working. No scratches, and the screen quality is superb. It also doesn't peel in the back.
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The only thing i'found is that the back cover makes a little sound sometimes if I press it, like if it wasn't well attached. Sorry for my english.
Sucks to hear that op. I have my XT since 15 November and I have no problems. The phone looks and works as new. No scratches, no poor performance. I have the newest firmware available and everything works just fine.
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Well, it isn't the performance that bothers me. Actually, the performance is great. And finally having CM10 with working project butter features is like a godsend. I'm just worried about the outer casing.
Ive had my XT since it came out in UK, its great but the only problem I have is the build quality, I don't have the flaking issue, but more the phone creaking, its quite a annoying sound. I have a case but I only have it on when I go out.
Apart from that its awesome phone
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I've also got the creaking issue. Also removed the rather thick shatter protector that has improved screen responsiveness and contract, slightly...
Would be interested in the Xperia Z though, if the price is right i'd exchange.
had my xperia t since october3rd not one scratch looks like new guess i take better care of mine that anyone else
Had mine since the 26th October. It's on O2 UK with the Bond branding.
Build quality is excellent thus far. No peeling. Screen has pre-applied protector, plus the one that came in the box. Very happy with it. Previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and had the original iPhone before that.
Android seems to have acquired 'polish' since I last tried it about a year ago.
My T seem perfect until now (buyed 12/12/12)
The only problem si the poor wifi range.. it's too low compared to my previous LG optimus black.
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No problems here so far...

[Q] what are the cons of Xperia Z?

I'm going to buy Xperia z in a few days - months, my question is: what have let you down in Xperia Z?
I already know about screen.
I kindly ask people which don't own this phone to not answer.
As I've seen many of the devs are going to buy or already have Xperia z, (im coming from Xperia Play and I've had great developers, most of them have moved to newer device, so I I'm going to do the same).
So to make it quick: what you don't like in your phone?
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I'm going to buy Xperia z in a few days - months, my question is: what have let you down in Xperia Z?
I already know about screen.
I kindly ask people which don't own this phone to not answer.
As I've seen many of the devs are going to buy or already have Xperia z, (im coming from Xperia Play and I've had great developers, most of them have moved to newer device, so I I'm going to do the same).
So to make it quick: what you don't like in your phone?
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The phone is amazing I am happy with everything apart from the camera quality in low light situations, the camera is excellent in outdoor good light photos but poor in my opinion indoors. I would definitely recommend this phone hopefully a update might sort the camera out.
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
Get it because it's an awesome phone. Ignore the claims that the screen isn't good. I mean, how retarded do you have to be to complain about the fact that the viewing angle is crap when you hold it at like 5 degree. The colours are way better than on Samsung Galaxy Phones.
Haldi4803 said:
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
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I don't know, how many smartphones you had before, but I can assure you that it doesn't get hotter than the competition. Actually, a Galaxy S 2 gets hotter than the Xperia Z. And listing the glass-back as well as the size as a cons (or saying you dislike that) isn't really fair since those features were well known before you decided to buy it. And why would you like to use the screen under water?
In respect to the phone getting hot, I would say this is the same for most smartphones of this ilk. My Desire, Arc and XS, got very hot, but this is considered to be quite normal and nothing to worry about.
The XZ is a wonderful device. It's a noticeable upgrade from my XS and a fair bit bigger, but all in all no complaints.
The only negative points I can think of is that the camera ap starts up quite slow and that you can't change toggles in the notification bar by default.
Those are 2 things that should/could be solved really easy though.
Main things:
1) Camera app is sluggish, as already mentioned
2) Speaker on side - gets blocked by hand so you have to learn a new grip in order to not muffle your music/phone call
3) Power button on middle of right side - if you take a call when the phone's in a car dock doing satnav stuff, the phone (according to how it's set) can lock and turn the display off after the call so you have to try and press the button - which might mean taking the phone out of the dock while driving (or not!). I ended up installing an app that wakes up the phone when I wave near its proximity sensor.
noticed only this when shootin video in dark places and you turn on the light. the light is bad. miss has xperia t and light on her device is much more brighter. also in call volume isnt that great but im sure devs or sony will fix this up (lower volume because water proof cover). camera app is
indeed slow when u run it but i think its because its same app as it was on xperia x1 and didnt get much love
about camera learn basics bout takin pics and set camera to manual you will get great results
about speaker on side .. no problem for me cuz im left handed
about screen dont belive those reviews screen is really great and i mean great
Haldi4803 said:
- the phone gets hot when you use it to much
- Screen on time is about 3.5-4.5h
- backside is glass
- the screen doesn't work when full of water
- It is big, sometimes doesn't reach the whole screen with the tumb without moving my hand position.
- camera doesn't always make good pictures.
But how hard you want to value which con is your opinion! IMHO i dislike the glass back... and i wish i had way better battery... but this are dreams.
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is the battery really bad?
zzcool said:
is the battery really bad?
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I've went to the shop to check it out, most of these cons can be software-fixed.
But my biggest point in cons is
- speaker is crappy when playing music (no bass, I'm comming from xperia play which had 2 stereo speakers and they were great) not fixable
Viewing angles aren't that bad actually, it may be a little bit worse than top phones from other manufacturers but it's not that bad
I'd like to have an opinion from somebody about the battery...
Thanks to everyone for giving me some more advices for checking it out myself
The battery is amazing,playing game for 10 minutes,downloading apps and games from playstore,web browsing,and xda app.it last for 6 hours screen on time.could last for a day with 4 hours screen on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39094453&postcount=293
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Battery at stand by is excellent can go for 35hr with light use.
Battery at Screen time is good, I can go up to 4 hours.
My only con is screen in bright sun
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Odp: [Q] what are the cons of Xperia Z?
So by saying it lasts 6 hours with screen on this means that it will go from 100% to 0% after 6 hours screen on, right? Well that's not a huge step but it's not bad, thanks
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[Q] Do you recommend keeping my Xperia Z ?

Hello everybody
This is my first post here, and I need some advice about the Xperia Z.
I have just bought my xperia Z (still sealed but with no warranty or a limited one).
I was looking forward of buying the xperia Z after my xperia neo v was starting to age (great phone btw) . My neo was a great phone, I really liked it and it never let me down. It took alot of abuse and been used to the max, but still standing. I'm a VERY heavy user and I use my phone alot. Although I'm not a heavy gamer but I use my phone to talk, text, organize, playing music, net radio, browsing etc. I'm also not the one who really take care of his phone, I like my phone uncovered, and expected to be able to take some heavy drops and be able to stick into my tight pocket with all of the keys and stuff, with almost invisible scratches.
So after reading the reviews and specifications of xperia Z I was very enthusiastic about this phone. I bought the phone despite that it's out of my budget price ( Thanks mum). But as I roamed into the forums (espically this one) things started to get ugly.
Many people here complained about:
Screen easily cracks
The back panel opens up
And the adhesive used is not heat resistant.
Problem is, I'm supposedly paying alot of money for this durable,advanced and sexy phone, that matches my needs. But right now I'm reconsidering because the two major faults will probably happen to me. First I don't take excessive care with my phone , and I expect the phone to endure some beating . Also I live in a very hot environment so the back panel will defiantly pop. And from what I've hears here Sony customer service sucks.
So what you guys think, should I keep this phone or sell it
Your advise will be highly appreciated
Thanks in advanced
If it is something you plan on dropping then I probably wouldn't recommend this. Maybe the Samsung S4 Active? Still is water and dust proof but the plastics on the Galaxy phones don't break. Screen will still be an issue.
The screen doesn't easily cracks. I was one of the OP for one of the threads. Mine was more of a freak accident.. and if the screen does break the digitizer will most likely break also. Even with that said I'm planning to get another one.
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Well I would recommend xperia v or xperia zr for removable battery, and durability might be better than z.. According to ur needs I suggest sell ur xperia z off. Sorry..
I'm a heavy user too, and live in a hot and humid environment (near Shanghai). I've had no problems whatsoever with this phone. I recommend it.
senseless thread :laugh:
i don't want to be mean, but...
"i like to listen to music, but i like to watch movies as well. shall i buy the new blue ray with my favourite actor, or shall i keep my cd with my favorite singer? what do you suggest?"
Keep the phone.
Remember, what you read on the web are all the people who have had a problem, and while it seems like a lot, it's nothing compared with the number of people who don't have any problems, because they don't go around exclaiming how they have no problems.
All phone have some common defects to a small percentage of users. As far as breaking the glass goes, out of all the top of the line phones it's the least likely to break because the glass has a shock absorbing coating on it. I don't think any others do. Even though you like your phone without a case, how about just a thine bumper around the edge?
The back panel and adhesive issues are very rare, and would most defiantly be covered under warranty.
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Keep the phone.
Remember, what you read on the web are all the people who have had a problem, and while it seems like a lot, it's nothing compared with the number of people who don't have any problems, because they don't go around exclaiming how they have no problems.
All phone have some common defects to a small percentage of users. As far as breaking the glass goes, out of all the top of the line phones it's the least likely to break because the glass has a shock absorbing coating on it. I don't think any others do. Even though you like your phone without a case, how about just a thine bumper around the edge?
The back panel and adhesive issues are very rare, and would most defiantly be covered under warranty.
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Potential z1 user

Hey guys, I've read every single review out there. And frankly. In a few weeks I need to make a choice. And I want to hear it from a community which knows what they are tanking about.
First. Whats the deal with the screen protector?
Is it the main cause of the viewing angle issues I keep reading about? Following that, if I get scratches in it and choose to take it off, is it then completely Without warranty or is that something they tend to overlook?
Secondly. The screen size is not that large considering it's size (which I don't mind) I see there is some tools for removing the nav bar. Will they work fine during games too?.
The build quality looks absolutley stunning and honestly, I don't mind viewing angles keeping nosey viewers out. I also see the Camera gets a lot of heat. But from some of the pictures posted, it's more than good enough for me.
It's ether this, the note 3 or the ultra. Knowing what you guys know now, what would you do?
Any kind comments, thoughts or advice. Please let me know!
Written said:
Hey guys, I've read every single review out there. And frankly. In a few weeks I need to make a choice. And I want to hear it from a community which knows what they are tanking about.
First. Whats the deal with the screen protector?
Is it the main cause of the viewing angle issues I keep reading about? Following that, if I get scratches in it and choose to take it off, is it then completely Without warranty or is that something they tend to overlook?
Secondly. The screen size is not that large considering it's size (which I don't mind) I see there is some tools for removing the nav bar. Will they work fine during games too?.
The build quality looks absolutley stunning and honestly, I don't mind viewing angles keeping nosey viewers out. I also see the Camera gets a lot of heat. But from some of the pictures posted, it's more than good enough for me.
It's ether this, the note 3 or the ultra. Knowing what you guys know now, what would you do?
Any kind comments, thoughts or advice. Please let me know!
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first: its a shatter proof film not a screen protector, get a tempered glass one or a good standard one
second: dont know much about this but mods exist to reduce the size of the nav bar dont fret.
the camera is good, not as good as an DSLR but its a great camera phone.
the battery life is good 5hours SOT in 24 hours not bad.
the XZU has a great screen but crappy camera, the N3 has a great saturated screen and a good camera too, but looks tacky to me (that faux leather back its weird in all levels).
Thanks for clearing some things up there asa. To be fair I am not a big camera man. If I must desperately take a picture, I dig out the SLR which turned out to be a BIG waste of money. Never gets used.
I'm here for that attractive look, glass and aluminium. The only thing I have ever envied from the apple users. Can't beat the feel of some cold metal in your hand. And water resistance of any kind is only a plus texting in the rain is something that can happen regular for me. This note 1 is lucky to be alive.
Mostly I don't do much calling either. Don't care much for the external speaker either, its got headphones plugged in. This will be a texting and gaming commute machine. The reason this isn't an easy decision is I can't seem to find a store in the Netherlands which has that ultra on display. I don't mind big, but I do mind it hanging out of my pocket like a big neon invitation to be stolen
I've practically been measuring pockets to try and figure it out without actually seeing on, although they are available online, it obviously cannot physically been viewed.
Seen the z1, very impressed. Just wish the screen was a tad bigger. 5.7 to 6 is about the sweet spot for me so I don't know
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I think that 5" is the perfect screen size for me. The ONLY thing I have a problem with on this phone is the screen, it's not great, it's good but it isn't great. The headphone jack isn't covered by a flap so that should be a plus for you.
Hey TheCraig. Thanks for chiming in. Community seems nice and active here which is a sure bonus.
I've never really gamed on a 5", my main games being real racing 3, order and chaos online, FIFA 14 and scummVM. I'd properly try and get into the nice graphical shooters if this phone had the power. The note 1 struggles with all those games other than scumm (naturally).
What might well swing me over to the z1 is after reading some of the experiences of others there, the ultra seems to bend pretty easily if under any pocket pressure. its going to be a xperia for me. Still can't decide on the z1 or the ultra :banghead:
Thanks to the mods by the way for moving this thread, sorry about that!
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Hey TheCraig. Thanks for chiming in. Community seems nice and active here which is a sure bonus.
I've never really gamed on a 5", my main games being real racing 3, order and chaos online, FIFA 14 and scummVM. I'd properly try and get into the nice graphical shooters if this phone had the power. The note 1 struggles with all those games other than scumm (naturally).
What might well swing me over to the z1 is after reading some of the experiences of others there, the ultra seems to bend pretty easily if under any pocket pressure. its going to be a xperia for me. Still can't decide on the z1 or the ultra :banghead:
Thanks to the mods by the way for moving this thread, sorry about that!
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A few things to consider.
1. The one is large bigger than my Xperia Z was. The lg G2 and nexus5 both have less bezel and fit better in the hand
2. As for camera it good just takes practice, that said i would say it that much better than G2 or N5
3. Battery life is really good I get 5 hours of screen time which is the best I've had in any phone
4. This phone is fast not sure if it is faster than the N5 but l like Sony's skin it nice and clean
5. Waterproofing is nice to have, but comes at the cost of flaps, invest in a dock for sure
6. The screen is fine but not the best in class for sure.
7. It does get warm playing games
8. If you want updates get the N5, Sony is not the fastest with updates but nor is it the worst.
9. It's the best looking of the bunch IMO
10. The Walkman app is great love it

Glass breaks easily in back pocket!

I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
marcfonteijn said:
I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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You must have buttocks made of steel.
I'm pretty sure it didn't just sponaneously crack in your back pocket, you must have sat down or something while it was in there.
By the way, keeping your phone in your back pocket is like asking for it to be stolen by pickpockets.
The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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degraaff said:
You must have buttocks made of steel.
I'm pretty sure it didn't just sponaneously crack in your back pocket, you must have sat down or something while it was in there.
By the way, keeping your phone in your back pocket is like asking for it to be stolen by pickpockets.
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^This...
tribemac said:
The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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...and this^^^
I get the impression that the black version seems to be more sensitive.... Fingers crossed 'cause I got the white one
I suppose you didn't use a case or protection of any kind?
I hope Sony say 'Tough titties don't sit on your phone moron!'
Seriously what do people expect...
Looks like some scratches on the right side as well as a chip. Your leaving a lot out it wasn't just a "stuck it in my back pocket and it broke".
Even tho phones never used to break in back pockets, suddenly iPhone 6 and now z3c owners are saying, what do you expect.
I'd expect a phone to not be weaker than the old ones actually.
Hope you get it sorted op.
i'm sure they broke too. but no one took the time to post about it until now because they knew that it was their fault for breaking it. now all of a sudden, they are like, hey i should tell everyone about this because it makes me cool.
I carry my Z3C naked, not a single scratch yet.
qbert456 said:
Even tho phones never used to break in back pockets, suddenly iPhone 6 and now z3c owners are saying, what do you expect.
I'd expect a phone to not be weaker than the old ones actually.
Hope you get it sorted op.
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Phones are steadily getting larger & thinner, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that sitting on your phone isn't going to do it a world of good.
In other news: camera in phones aren't as good as dedicated cameras.. (thought I'd better mention that too, as that's something else many people have difficulty grasping)
you're right, planes have got larger, thinner (skinned) and lighter too .
Best not fly anymore then as by your rationale we should expect breakage and not expect improvements as technology advances.
qbert456 said:
you're right, planes have got larger, thinner (skinned) and lighter too .
Best not fly anymore then as by your rationale we should expect breakage and not expect improvements as technology advances.
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People too seem to have got larger and more thin skinned...
I'm not sure how to spell this out.
The laws of physics dictate, larger thinner objects are more likely to break/bend when pressure/weight is applied than smaller fatter ones.
Nothing to do with technology, people need to stop being sheep and apply a little common sense, before doing stupid things then 'blaming the technology' - take some responsibility for yourself ffs.
My Z3C was in front pocket (not very tight pants) and front screen was cracked with no reason.
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marcfonteijn said:
I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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that is basically identical the crack that i had except mine was on the back. Mine is back with Sony at the moment! mine was in my front pocket though.
Just because manufactures make the phone thinner and lighter does not mean the way people use them are any different. people still put them in pockets etc. I have kept my nexus 5 in my back pocket for ages, sat down on it etc and its not cracked. (im 6ft4 and about 17st) i get my sony and breaks in 5 days...when its in the front pocket. There are making things lighter and thinner sure but not to the point where i have to make sure i carry a phone in bubble wrap because they cant make it strong enough for everyday use. Something is wrong with the phones not with the way are they being carried!
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The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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Quoted for truth
You really should get a phone with more durable material if you plan to pocket it. It's just common sense it is fragile..... Belt clip for me!
Glass on Back Of Xperia Z3 C may be inferior.
Inferior meaning not the Asahi Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3
Equivalent we HOPE is on the front.
Does Sony specify exactly what is on the front of these phones ?
And I think the specs on the back glass are more vague.
Seems like design flaw / substitution glass or maybe illogical
design flaw.
One of main reasons I want a phone this
size is to put in front pocket and carry ..
Use to play Internet Radio while I work and
browse play on when not working.
In a good case is this phone rugged enough for physically active
People ? Or too fragile .
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Inferior meaning not the Asahi Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3
Equivalent we HOPE is on the front.
Does Sony specify exactly what is on the front of these phones ?
Seems like design flaw / substitution glass or maybe illogical
design flaw.
One of main reasons I want a phone this
size is to put in front pocket and carry ..
Use to play Internet Radio while I work and
browse play on when not working.
In a good case is this phone rugged enough for physically active
People ? Or too fragile .
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The front glass seems good, no micro scratches so far. I'm just going to get me a Spigen Ultra Hybrid clear bumper case as soon as it comes out for the Z3C, then it'll be fine.
Right now I have this as a temporary case: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/flexishield-sony-xperia-z3-compact-gel-case-frost-white-p49135.htm
Some people seem to think scratch resistant = shatterproof. Actually the most scratch resistant materials like diamond etc are not hard to shatter/break at all. It has nothing to do with one another.
I was going to buy the Z3c and apply a shatter resistant film on the front and back, but that only protects from knocks to the panel from resonating and breaking the glass, not from pressure from lifting your leg with the phone in your front pocket.
If anyone has a go-to brand of protective film they use to prevent breaking (not so much scratching, as I can replace the film every now and again), I want to know!

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