[Q] Stamina Mode? - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sony said:
Significantly improve battery life with Battery STAMINA mode
Smartphones use a lot of power, even when you’re not actively using them. All those apps that you’ve had open are still running in the background, using unnecessary battery. Battery STAMINA mode saves you wasted battery drain by recognising when your display is off and turning off functions you don’t need, while keeping the notifications you want. As soon as you touch the screen and wake up your phone, everything is up and running again.
Get only the important notices
With Battery STAMINA mode, Wi-Fi and data traffic are disabled during standby, but you still receive incoming calls, texts, and alarms. And since everyone has different needs, you can easily customise which apps you want to receive push notifications from even in standby mode. Facebook notifications on or off? It’s up to you.
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Turns off data while the phone is asleep. Anyone else think this is going to be a bit af a pointless feature? Surely the single biggest drain on any phone is the screen, background data is relatively insignificant. The other consideration is that every time you wake the phone, won't there be a suddent surge of data transfer while all the disabled apps wake up and reconnect, which will amount to the same battery drain overall?

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parapaul said:
Turns off data while the phone is asleep. Anyone else think this is going to be a bit af a pointless feature? Surely the single biggest drain on any phone is the screen, background data is relatively insignificant. The other consideration is that every time you wake the phone, won't there be a suddent surge of data transfer while all the disabled apps wake up and reconnect, which will amount to the same battery drain overall?
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I'm more curious as to HOW this works. The quote says that data and wifi are turned off. How then are messages and email delivered? Isn't that driven by data? If it works it sounds great but I'm skeptical .

Stamina Mode?
stiffi2011 said:
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I'm more curious as to HOW this works. The quote says that data and wifi are turned off. How then are messages and email delivered? Isn't that driven by data? If it works it sounds great but I'm skeptical .
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You need to check the video relating to the Stamina Mode during the CES presentation. Except phone calls and SMS all other data will be turned off. But they also have given options to select individual apps that You don't want to turn off

stiffi2011 said:
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I'm more curious as to HOW this works. The quote says that data and wifi are turned off. How then are messages and email delivered? Isn't that driven by data? If it works it sounds great but I'm skeptical .
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I think that if you put any data-enabled app in the whitelist, stamina mode might not turn data connection off as it'll be needed by whitelisted apps - but that's just my guess.

AW: [Q] Stamina Mode?
Data isn't turned off, Stamina only sends all apps except whitelist to sleep. In that state the apps don't connect and decrease battery.

parapaul said:
Turns off data while the phone is asleep. Anyone else think this is going to be a bit af a pointless feature? Surely the single biggest drain on any phone is the screen, background data is relatively insignificant. The other consideration is that every time you wake the phone, won't there be a suddent surge of data transfer while all the disabled apps wake up and reconnect, which will amount to the same battery drain overall?
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Its a pretty pointless gimmick to be honest, espically if you don't use data at all, that's my opinion anyway

Sv: [Q] Stamina Mode?
I reckon it's rather intuitive build in feature from Sony. Ofcourse something that you would be able to achieve through root-software, but it shows a desire from Sony to be innovative. Like guest mode on the xperia tablet s. Sony Cooked it in that rom, and now 4.2 will have it in stock Android. Could happen the same with stamina.
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Raedek said:
I reckon it's rather intuitive build in feature from Sony. Ofcourse something that you would be able to achieve through root-software, but it shows a desire from Sony to be innovative. Like guest mode on the xperia tablet s. Sony Cooked it in that rom, and now 4.2 will have it in stock Android. Could happen the same with stamina.
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Yes i know, it is good, but the battery is a tad disappointing, for a 1080p phone with 4G i mean cmon

Raedek said:
I reckon it's rather intuitive build in feature from Sony. Ofcourse something that you would be able to achieve through root-software, but it shows a desire from Sony to be innovative. Like guest mode on the xperia tablet s. Sony Cooked it in that rom, and now 4.2 will have it in stock Android. Could happen the same with stamina.
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Root? Nah, checkout Green Power Premium app, it functions pretty much same as Stamina mode and has whitelist too. And yes it does save battery.
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AayushDhuria said:
Root? Nah, checkout Green Power Premium app, it functions pretty much same as Stamina mode and has whitelist too. And yes it does save battery.
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Exactly, that's what i mean its pretty pointless with apps like green power about!

In that respect the camera, dialer, launcher music, email app etc are pointless since multiple variants are available.
It's nothing revolutionary but kind of nice they include it nonetheless

Please elaborate your statement seems like it doesn't have any sense. Why are camera, dialer, launcher music, email app pointless? And whats with multiple variants? And what does that got to do with stamina mode? Then why nothing revolutionary? I don't see any phone having that feature at all.

Riyal said:
Please elaborate your statement seems like it doesn't have any sense. Why are camera, dialer, launcher music, email app pointless? And whats with multiple variants? And what does that got to do with stamina mode? Then why nothing revolutionary? I don't see any phone having that feature at all.
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It is a quick reply on the post before it

stefanve said:
In that respect the camera, dialer, launcher music, email app etc are pointless since multiple variants are available.
It's nothing revolutionary but kind of nice they include it nonetheless
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Mostly though it's a selling point to include it. I would prefer hardware innovation.

redThd said:
Mostly though it's a selling point to include it. I would prefer hardware innovation.
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yeah for sure, I guess most people will.
I for one rather have a 720p low power display than a 1080p display. Since most people don't see the difference I'm wondering how many phone generations it will last. ppi seems a bit like the old mhz en MP races.

Please, can you recommend me any app that works on the same principle as a real STAMINA MODE?
Most important feature:
"Another really useful functionality, is that you can actually choose to white list your most important apps, allowing them to run in the background even when Battery STAMINA Mode is turned on. This way you will get notifications even when your phone rests in your bag or pocket. This is handy if you still want to be able to receive instant messages or IP calls at any time."
I found many apps in Play Store, but the problem is that they have a "WHITE LIST" feature, but this works on another pronciple - see below.
It does NOT stop any app and background data when the white-listed app is running. .
DOES GREENPOWER PREMIUM SUPPORT THIS?
Stop all backround data, stop all other apps and keep only 2 my white-listed apps running (chat + notes)
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Juice Defender

can anyone confirm that this does or does not work on our phone? I heard it doesn't work for CDMA
Works fine on CDMA however I can't get it to work on this phone. It starts fine and set up goes fine but then it will randomly turn itself off. May be a memory issue I'm not sure.
I've been running the beta, and have had no issues.
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Why not download it and find out?
ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?
illtema said:
ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?
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I just turn it on. Last night my phone was idle for 9 hours, and only lost 1% battery.
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Last night w/ juice defender, off charger. Nothing else. Lol.
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The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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It is, doesn't affect it.
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So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.
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So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.
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The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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Could be true, could be false, that's sorta the problem.
Either way, I'll look into it.
I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.
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I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.
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Please check settings before posting. In the paid version you can set specific programs to always have access when running. I believe it is also in the beta for free.
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Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.
dricacho said:
Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.
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Is the version you stated the beta?
Disregard the question, lol, re-read your post.
I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing
Kamar234 said:
I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing
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As with any app, different phones play differently with them. I hear from some that things don't work, when they run as intended on my phone. This will always be the case.
I can say absolutely that Juice Defender Beta works without a problem on my device, and I have tested it extensively. It does what it should without issues or problems.
That obviously isn't the case for everyone. I will suggest that before someone blast a well written app publicly and possibly discourage someone who might benefit from it from trying it out, that they contact the developer with their issues and see if there is a known conflict or bug. I have resolved issues with apps like this many times, and almost always it was something on my end that fixed it, not the app itself.
Daswolven, I agree with you completely. Learned that with my Droid1 with the overclock speeds and voodoo with this phone, some things just don't work properly on your particular handset. I took the time to understand what this app does and it is extremely powerful. The best way to find out what's good for you is to try it. On a side note, I have been harassing the makers of Beautiful Widgets about the fc issue with our phones. I think they actually took care of it with the last update because I haven't had one in a while haha.
I've also done research on another app called BatteryFu which is suppose to be a "lean and mean" battery saver, compared to JD. Toby Kurien, the author of BatteryFu, claims that JD is bloated and ended up using memory and battery - against what it's suppose to accomplish. One of the biggest battery drain is mobile connectivity. JD and BatteryFu intelligently and transparently manages this essentially enabling it when you need it and disabling it when you don't. On the Fascinate, other than switching to airplane mode, mobile data connection cannot be disabled according to Toby. So this renders those battery saver apps useless. Perhaps turning off the Background Data would slightly help but it is needed by the Android Market so you'll have to turn it on when you need to access the market. You can also try setting up multiple APN's. I haven't been able to figure out how to do this on the Fascinate. My friend has a Vibrant and you can go to SETTINGS -> MOBILE NETWORKS -> APN. The Fascinate doesn't have APN under MOBILE NETWORKS. Maybe someone here has a workaround.

[Q] Has anyone figured out the "mobile radio active" bug?

I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
huh? mobile radio active? whats that, a wakelock?
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This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
tysonwald said:
This. With every app. Mobile radio active kills battery
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I was wondering why my battery life was horrible since updating.
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I had this issue on 5.0, 5.01, and now 5.1. Been with it the whole time. I've tried different radios and clean flashes and wipes. Nothing is getting rid of it. When you search google there are some people with the same issue but nothing major which leads me to believe some things wrong with my phone and/or there's something causing this and it isn't normal.
I've never seen this
rootSU said:
I've never seen this
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Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
tysonwald said:
Interesting and kinda what I figured. I wonder where I start to get rid of it.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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My first instinct would be a full wipe initially.
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That was mine too and what I did when I flashed 5.1
One issue I have is with the Facebook app and I believe that is causing a lot of my battery drain when not on WiFi. In a recent update Facebook removed the option to not automatically update news feed. Now I believe it refreshes very often causing massive drain.
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tysonwald said:
I know we've had some discussions on the "mobile radio active" found on some apps causing battery drain. Has anyone seen a fix for this yet? It is still driving me crazy.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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This is NOT an Android bug. This is *possibly* a BAD SOFTWARE issue, or PERFECTLY NORMAL.
Every application that transfers ANYTHING over the network, will cause mobile data activity, which REQUIRES activity on the radio, and DOES draw battery power.
If an application transfers too much, or too often, or too slow, or anything else that will cause the radio to activate frequently or for longer periods of time, then you will see this mobile radio active timer increase.
And the MORE applications you have doing this, again, the more battery it will suck down.
Edit: Your example of pushbullet.... in order for that program to work, it needs to maintain persistent connections between each device you are using that program on, and the vendor's server. In order to maintain a persistent connection, packets have to be transferred across the route on a timed basis, where the time is less than the timeout on all of the routers along the route.
Conclusion: everything is working correctly as intended.
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really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
No way it's normal. I use chrome beta and it clocked over 3 hours of Mobile Radio Active today. I still got great battery life, but when Chrome Beta takes 20% and your screen takes 10%, something is wrong. It's not continuously updating as someone above suggested. It's a bug. The mobile radio is being kept active for no reason by seemingly random apps. I really hope someone figures out how to fix this.
Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
zer0xp said:
Any update on this?
I've tried 5.1 e, l and now I builds and they're all doing the same thing.
I've tried chroma ROM as well, along with stock, lean, Franco and code blue kernels.
I've never been able to shake this problem.
Anyone know what its about?
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No one has even confirmed it is a problem yet. Unlikely anyone is working on it.
At first, I was thinking this was app related, but after looking at all my background and running apps, it seems they all have this "bug". However, mine don't seem to be running that as long, which in turn isn't showing a big battery drain. Hence the fact that I never noticed it.
I am guessing that it is some wakelock that is set by the app, but all apps that connect to the internet are using it. However, I looked on my flo which is running BrokenOs 5.0.1 and it doesn't have this mobile radio active process. I will be updating it to BrokenOs 5.1.0 here in a bit to see if it appears. If not, then we can limit it to just the shamu. If that is the case, then we just need to locate it, probably in the kernel, and decide what to do with it...
I'll follow up with my findings later...
I hope there is a solution!
For me it is the problem with Android 5 or the nexus 6. although i dont think it is a problem with the nexus 6. After my recognition are different models (nexus 4, 5, some Samsung devices, moto x...) affected after updating to lollipop.
I have also test different (stock-)roms/ different kernels/ disabled some services/ tested different radios/ factory resets and freezed some system- or deinstalled all 3rd Party apps/ changed the messenger...
No problem in wlan but with 4g/3g is the value of mobile radio active to high that some "apps" (gpservices, android os, hangouts, telegram, sometimes chrome) now are on top of the battery stats. With bbs or wld i cant find the reason.
tysonwald said:
really? thats normal? then how come noone else is really seeing this "issue" other people say they dont have this so how would it be "normal" ? not saying it isnt because I dont know enough to know, but i would imagine if it was normal behavior then it would be on everyone's phone.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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It *IS* on everyones phone.
Nobody is 'seeing' this, because there is nothing *TO* see. There is nothing *TO* see, because it is PERFECTLY NORMAL.
You can't seriously expect mobile data transfer to be done free of battery consumption, can you? It takes electricity to produce the electrical impulses that generate the radio waves that carry data to the remote cell tower. It takes electricity to run the radio processor cpu to receive and interpret the electrical impulses in the receiving antenna that are generated by the radio waves sent by the remote cell tower.
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There is nothing to see when some apps on top of the battery stats (with 3g/4g) because of the high mobile radio active? Why are this value not so high on other devices with KitKat and then higher with lollipop?
Being connected to wifi for a period of time may help reveal more info.
Also, try using a whitelist firewall to only allow apps that you need to allow data. Or even block all traffic for a while and see what happens.
You could even block traffic on only cellular, and let only wifi pass traffic.
Another thing to verify would be whether airplane mode (wifi could be on) indeed causes the issue to completely go away as one would expect.

Galaxy S5 Android™ version 6.0.1, Marshmallow feature discussion, plus and minus

I do not see any thread discussing features on GS5 marshmallow updates, so I am starting one.
Good Stuff
-- Wifi calling. When enabled, always tries to use wifi to call. Not sure how it works if wifi signal is fading. Does it revert to cell signal in real time?
Unlike T-mobile, airplane mode needs to be off to use wifi calling.
Not So Good Stuff
-- Less control in power saving mode. No more individual tweak for CPU power and display (gray scale). Only choices are power saving mode
and ultra power saving mode. Does it mean MM is more power efficient so we do not need those extra modes anymore?
Stock automatic brightness sucks in Marshmallow
Automatic brightness sucks now in Marshmallow. It is changed from static automatic from range bound. This is a Marshmallow change from Google. It suppose to work like this: you set a brightness point, and Android use ambient light sensor to adjust around the brightness point you set. I have a Nexus 5 phone and it works flawlessly.
With GS5, it never works right. This is always too dark in low light environment or too bright otherwise. Most of the time moving slider does not change anything when auto brightness is checked. Even if it responds once a while. Turning off the screen and on would reset it.
I did some research and downloaded Velis. It works surprisingly well. Will see if it drains battery.
I'm seeing huge improvements in battery life. I usually leave my phone in power saving mode on a desk during working hours and when I was in Lollipop, by the time I got out of work my battery would be at 42%. Today, my battery was at 91% after a 9 hour day. So far it's been on battery for almost 16 hours and is currently at 71%.
I will wait a few days and see if it settles down. My past experience is that the battery life gets worst after a fresh update for a few days and then goes back to normal.
I am missing the mobile hot spot though, it came in handy.
Mobile Hotspot clarification
iJemuel said:
I'm seeing huge improvements in battery life. I usually leave my phone in power saving mode on a desk during working hours and when I was in Lollipop, by the time I got out of work my battery would be at 42%. Today, my battery was at 91% after a 9 hour day. So far it's been on battery for almost 16 hours and is currently at 71%.
I will wait a few days and see if it settles down. My past experience is that the battery life gets worst after a fresh update for a few days and then goes back to normal.
I am missing the mobile hot spot though, it came in handy.
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I just got the notification on my stock g900a a couple hours ago, and was looking for info on the update but have not found much yet, could you please clarify: does the update totally remove any option to use mobile hotspot? Just disable it, etc.?
I use this feature often while away from home and secure WiFi is not available for homework and other tasks where a keyboard is essential or a mobile device is not supported. I am hoping that there is some chance that the update just breaks it or something and the loss may not be permanent before I look in to blocking the update. I don't like 5.1.1, but loss of mobile hotspot would be a deal breaker; it was a major consideration into my initial choice to purchase.
Mobile hotspot works fine for me. Is it because it's unlocked and on another carrier? But that of course also means no wifi calling for me.
Automatic brightness control sucks. I get weird flickering instead of dimming when the screen starts to time out. Turn off auto brightness and it's fine. PG3 had the same problem for me.
I'm a big fan now of the update for the default Samsung Music Player (couldn't get it w/o MM)
You can't turn off the charger flap warning or disable the max volume warning...but you can at least disable the charger sound now.
Battery life is good...and I dare say (on both the official and unofficial official builds) consistent.
Wifi hotspot and tethering works for me.
Call quality is good. Call quality is REALLY nice when the other caller has a VOLTE capable phone.
In low signal areas...haven't had an issue with dropped calls or using mobile data.
Here are my thoughts.
1. I am getting some lag in the device. seems it does not hibernate apps well or just doesnt manage memory well. maybe I was just too used to a rooted device with greenify. I have tried greenify with no root but it just isnt the same. Pisses me of sometimes cause It gets REALLY laggy.
2. I cannot get mobile hot spot to work on ATT. It is supposedly enabled on my line (company device on company plan PER our ATT rep). but I get the attached error when I try it.
3. SMS fail to go through alot when on a Microcell. this issue stated with MM un-official and now Official.
4. I did get the battey cover and charge cover killed by using a debloater app. I just put phone in developer mode and enabled USB debug. then fired up this windows app and plugged computer in. it reads the apps and let me disable all the bloat crapola and the popupuiReceiver_m.apk app. Debloater by gatesJunior. Simple and easy to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
6. I do second the audio qualty. I have noticed that some people are MUCH louder and easier to understand. Especially on my Wife's new S7Active.
Good stuff:
Better hearing quality in calls
New icons
Being able to hide system notifications in the lock screen (such as airplane mode or power saving)
Bad stuff:
I'm probably nitpicking but when you turn power saving mode on it turns the notification trail from transparent to this opaque gray, which I know it's in order to save battery but it looks bad.
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Also now the power saving notification is huge
Also when you turn off the device and turn it on again or restart you can't unlock with fingerprints the first time with a messasge saying: ''Unable to use fingerprints after restarting device. Enter password.'' I know it's a MM security policy but it's annoying
There is a choice to whether turn off all background data in power saving mode. If you did not turn on that one, you will get a much smaller notification msg. Mine only says "Device performance limited".
Yes, the gray notification bar for power saving mode is ugly. :cyclops:
What brand are the batteries that you got? and where did you purchase them from?
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
pickupman66 said:
Here are my thoughts.
1. I am getting some lag in the device. seems it does not hibernate apps well or just doesnt manage memory well. maybe I was just too used to a rooted device with greenify. I have tried greenify with no root but it just isnt the same. Pisses me of sometimes cause It gets REALLY laggy.
2. I cannot get mobile hot spot to work on ATT. It is supposedly enabled on my line (company device on company plan PER our ATT rep). but I get the attached error when I try it.
3. SMS fail to go through alot when on a Microcell. this issue stated with MM un-official and now Official.
4. I did get the battey cover and charge cover killed by using a debloater app. I just put phone in developer mode and enabled USB debug. then fired up this windows app and plugged computer in. it reads the apps and let me disable all the bloat crapola and the popupuiReceiver_m.apk app. Debloater by gatesJunior. Simple and easy to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
6. I do second the audio qualty. I have noticed that some people are MUCH louder and easier to understand. Especially on my Wife's new S7Active.
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AH...thanks for the popupuiReceiver_m.apk reference. PackageDisablerPro will disable that as well. No more volume/charger flap popups!
EDIT: popupuiReceiver_m.apk does not govern the volume warning for me...my bad.
yaboijay2029 said:
What brand are the batteries that you got? and where did you purchase them from?
5. Battery Life has been pretty decent once it settled in. I did just get new batteries though.
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I got a set of Anker batteries and the charger from amazon. we will see how they do.
clovehitch said:
I just got the notification on my stock g900a a couple hours ago, and was looking for info on the update but have not found much yet, could you please clarify: does the update totally remove any option to use mobile hotspot? Just disable it, etc.?
I use this feature often while away from home and secure WiFi is not available for homework and other tasks where a keyboard is essential or a mobile device is not supported. I am hoping that there is some chance that the update just breaks it or something and the loss may not be permanent before I look in to blocking the update. I don't like 5.1.1, but loss of mobile hotspot would be a deal breaker; it was a major consideration into my initial choice to purchase.
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My phone was originally from AT&T and I moved to Cricket. When I was in Lollipop my phone was rooted and I flashed the Wifi_Hotspot update to enable it. Now I can't use it. I get the same error as pickupman66 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68464559&postcount=7
Battery life is not better. its either at par with lolipop or worse. If you think you are getting better battery life.. that is just a placebo effect. i.e. this is new stuff so must be because of it I am getting better battery. It could simply be 10 other things.
Overall zero value. not sure why I needed to update.
I read somewhere that MM doze mode would turn off a lot of services to save battery if the phone is stationary for a while. This could be the reason this guy sees a huge battery life improvement. He did state that he left the phone on the table.
I like it.
I am always a fan of updating, except when it cost money. My battery life actually improved. It came from 1/2 of a day to 3/4 to 3/4 of a day to whole day. I like the new icon pack. Still had a lot of bloat ware. My speed improved. Yes I like it. Sad thing is. It came out after 7.0 came out .
Check out this verbiage from greenify. The white list goes to apps that are not optimized.
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I highly recommend using Package Disabler Pro v6.3b47. You can get it from Mobilism Market if you search for it. There are a lot of similar named apps but don't work nearly as well. Make sure you get v6.3b47.
Also, I just started experiencing the screen flickering issue on MM PG3. Eventually screen wouldn't even turn on. After a few days, I noticed it only happened at night and in the morning, not as bad during the day. I Googled the issue and basically, yes it is an auto-brightness issue and also related to the AMOLED screens the S5 has. This article, as well as others, give great detail and information as to why it happens and what is going on as well as practical solutions. You may have to scroll down a bit to get the best info. https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/272594/Flickering+screen+on+low+back+light
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I also use ShutAppPremium v2.60. Great app that really kills processes fairly aggressively. Works great.
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jeraspie28 said:
I highly recommend using Package Disabler Pro v6.3b47. You can get it from Mobilism Market if you search for it. There are a lot of similar named apps but don't work nearly as well. Make sure you get v6.3b47.
Also, I just started experiencing the screen flickering issue on MM PG3. Eventually screen wouldn't even turn on. After a few days, I noticed it only happened at night and in the morning, not as bad during the day. I Googled the issue and basically, yes it is an auto-brightness issue and also related to the AMOLED screens the S5 has. This article, as well as others, give great detail and information as to why it happens and what is going on as well as practical solutions. You may have to scroll down a bit to get the best info. https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/272594/Flickering+screen+on+low+back+light
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I also use ShutAppPremium v2.60. Great app that really kills processes fairly aggressively. Works great.
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Fwiw, none of the solutions for screen flickering worked for me EXCEPT: simply turning up the brightness on my phone. I had it set around 30% with auto brightness off. At that level, screen was always flickered when dimming, and when turning back on. But simply sliding the brightness up to about 60% solved the issue. Kind of annoying, because I like to have the brightness down to extend the battery life a bit. But whatever.
That is very interesting. If I recall correctly I purchased my S5 soon after it was released. I have not had any screen flickering at all.
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Galaxy A40 Always on Display best alternative! Working 100%

Hi everyone, after searching on german forums, xda and youtube i found this app
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe&hl=en
It is great cause it have a lot of options and in one you can select that AOD only turns on when a new notification comes
For now it didnt consume too much battery i would say that even none
But what i ask for help is if anyone could check the privacy of this and if we can debate which one is the best for this
Thanks in advance to all,
pd. sony fan here, but this phone is a beast :good:
tonyparker10 said:
Hi everyone, after searching on german forums, xda and youtube i found this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe&hl=en
But what i ask for help is if anyone could check the privacy of this and if we can debate which one is the best for this
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If you want to be sure this app doesn't send your data to an external server, you can install NetGuard No-root firewall and block this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard&hl=fr
I have an A40 coming and I think this is the only gripe I have with it compared to my old phone (well, maybe lack of ROMs too). Are you sure it doesn't affect battery? Have you actually checked battery drain over hours to prove it?
Maybe I will check it for us when mine arrives.
Weasler said:
I have an A40 coming and I think this is the only gripe I have with it compared to my old phone (well, maybe lack of ROMs too). Are you sure it doesn't affect battery? Have you actually checked battery drain over hours to prove it?
Maybe I will check it for us when mine arrives.
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4PDA have AOD working too using Samsung's own apps.
Edit: Installed an app called Notify Buddy which does the job well, no battery issues overnight. Two gripes:
1. Screen blink for a millisecond as it wakes and then displays a black screen with LED in corner.
2. Since screen is now technically on, fingerprint doesn't wake the phone as you would expect from a lock screen.
Official Samsung One UI AOD on Samsung Galaxy A40
Hello,
is there a way to get the official Samsung One UI AOD on the Samsung Galaxy A40 with or without root access? I'm just wondering because I already had AOD on some other Samsung devices which had Android 8.0 Oreo.
thanks
How it works after some times?
If let always on (like the native one) use a lot of battery?
If used not like an aod but only for notification "led" have it less consume? The blink continues until you read the notification or always for a limited time?
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Weasler said:
4PDA have AOD working too using Samsung's own apps.
Edit: Installed an app called Notify Buddy which does the job well, no battery issues overnight. Two gripes:
1. Screen blink for a millisecond as it wakes and then displays a black screen with LED in corner.
2. Since screen is now technically on, fingerprint doesn't wake the phone as you would expect from a lock screen.
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Have you tried this app, the dev is here on xda but I can't understand if works on a40 ( i haven't already)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.alwaysondisplay
theblackbread said:
Hello,
is there a way to get the official Samsung One UI AOD on the Samsung Galaxy A40 with or without root access? I'm just wondering because I already had AOD on some other Samsung devices which had Android 8.0 Oreo.
thanks
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The problem isn't the android version, it's a senseless choice of Samsung.
Maybe some of good lock apps can add it you should try always on display and edge light
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/always-on-display/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/edgelighting/edgelighting-1-0-24-release/
the stranger94 said:
How it works after some times?
If let always on (like the native one) use a lot of battery?
If used not like an aod but only for notification "led" have it less consume? The blink continues until you read the notification or always for a limited time?
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Have you tried this app, the dev is here on xda but I can't understand if works on a40 ( i haven't already)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.alwaysondisplay
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No, I haven't tried that. I don't use Google Play (I refuse to have a Google account on my phone) but if it is in apkpure I will try it.
I still have the Notify Buddy installed. By default it notifies for 30 minutes but this is adjustable. The screen blink is only annoying when I am asleep, so I think I will try to get a scheduler to turn the whole app off at night and back on in the morning. I've gotten used to the screen actually being "on" when it looks off, but I would prefer if Notify Buddy could access the fingerprint sensor and open the screen from it.
Weasler said:
No, I haven't tried that. I don't use Google Play (I refuse to have a Google account on my phone) but if it is in apkpure I will try it.
I still have the Notify Buddy installed. By default it notifies for 30 minutes but this is adjustable. The screen blink is only annoying when I am asleep, so I think I will try to get a scheduler to turn the whole app off at night and back on in the morning. I've gotten used to the screen actually being "on" when it looks off, but I would prefer if Notify Buddy could access the fingerprint sensor and open the screen from it.
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You can unlock the phone with the fingerprint if you are using these app?
Crap, this is a deal breaker for me..
Tapatalked with A8 2018
the stranger94 said:
You can unlock the phone with the fingerprint if you are using these app?
Crap, this is a deal breaker for me..
Tapatalked with A8 2018
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yes.. I have installed apk , and fingerprint work fine
mbaier said:
yes.. I have installed apk , and fingerprint work fine
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I mean, with the always on display if I use the fingerprint it unlock the phone or I have first wake the phone and then use the fingerprint..
I don't know if I was clear enough
Tapatalked with A8 2018
the stranger94 said:
I mean, with the always on display if I use the fingerprint it unlock the phone or I have first wake the phone and then use the fingerprint..
I don't know if I was clear enough
Tapatalked with A8 2018
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fingerprint will unlock the phone
mbaier said:
fingerprint will unlock the phone
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Thanks, and how is the battery usage for you?
Tapatalked with A8 2018
the stranger94 said:
Thanks, and how is the battery usage for you?
Tapatalked with A8 2018
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really don't care to much about battery..battery usage depends how much you use your phone , ad what apk you use ..but one and half day ...no problem
mbaier said:
really don't care to much about battery..battery usage depends how much you use your phone , ad what apk you use ..but one and half day ...no problem
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Of course, I was trying to understand if these app consumption are higher than the stock always on display of the other Samsung phones
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the stranger94 said:
Of course, I was trying to understand if these app consumption are higher than the stock always on display of the other Samsung phones
Tapatalked with A8 2018
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well it is quite a lot , the phone is not goin into deep sleep along as the led is active , for an example if you get a notification for 30 mins it wont enter deep sleep if you get more the phone will keep staying awake , its litteraly like you have your phone awake displaying a black image
Yeah, this is what I said. When notifying of something the screen is on, so you cannot "unlock" it as it is already unlocked. Therefore you need to swipe up and press home, not use the fingerprint.
Change clock format
hi, is it possible to change the clock to 24h format?
THX
nekos95 said:
well it is quite a lot , the phone is not goin into deep sleep along as the led is active , for an example if you get a notification for 30 mins it wont enter deep sleep if you get more the phone will keep staying awake , its litteraly like you have your phone awake displaying a black image
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Mmm you're right. And if I use the always on display like the stock one: clock and symbols of the notifications but no blinking. Is it the same thing (no deep sleep) ?
Also, double tap to wake still works?
Tapatalked with A8 2018
the stranger94 said:
Mmm you're right. And if I use the always on display like the stock one: clock and symbols of the notifications but no blinking. Is it the same thing (no deep sleep) ?
Also, double tap to wake still works?
Tapatalked with A8 2018
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from my understanding our device is lacking a small physical storage chip witch should be a part a of the display called display memory. so as long as the display is on displaying anything the cpu wont go to deep sleep
im assuming that cause aod wont allow deep sleep even in gsi roms so that must be it
Can someone make always on display working on galaxy a40
Please someone make original always on display working on a40

Question Bluetooth Battery Drain

Hey guys. Since the April update I've noticed I'm getting a fair bit of Bluetooth Battery drain on my Ultra. Only thing I have connected all the time is my Huawei GT2 Pro watch, but this has always been the case and never had the issue.
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Never used to see any Bluetooth use here really. Have rebooted both devices but seems to be getting worse.
Any ideas ?
Clear system cache.
Do a network reset... see if that helps.
blackhawk said:
Clear system cache.
Do a network reset... see if that helps.
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Easy way to do this ?
Quazza said:
Easy way to do this ?
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That is the easy way...
Do a Google search if you don't know how for that make/model.
Network reset is generally found in setting under connectivity at least on Samsung's.
blackhawk said:
That is the easy way...
Do a Google search if you don't know how for that make/model.
Network reset is generally found in setting under connectivity at least on Samsung's.
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Cache clear seems to have fixed it for now ....cheers !!
Ok nope, it's back. Sigh
Weird
Quazza said:
Ok nope, it's back. Sigh
Weird
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What Android OS version?
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What Android OS version?
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Hopefully it's in here somewhere lol
I don't think Karma Firewall's logging feature works in Android 10 or 11.
That would allow you to see what is accessing the internet and how often. Might give you a clue to what app is responsible.
It may be an app connected with the watch that's gone wild. Google Play Services is a known troublemaker and battery hog.
Man it's somehow getting worse ...
Why is app usage so high?
It's not broke down by app. Wonderful.
More Android 10/11 security?
Try disabling Google Play Services... just a hunch.
If that doesn't work...
Go to Developer options>running processes/cache processes after a reboot and see if you can spot it.
blackhawk said:
Why is app usage so high?
It's not broke down by app. Wonderful.
More Android 10/11 security?
Try disabling Google Play Services... just a hunch.
If that doesn't work...
Go to Developer options>running processes/cache processes after a reboot and see if you can spot it.
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Is that high ? Went through ADB to break down the app usage ...
Quazza said:
Is that high ? Went through ADB to break down the app usage ...
View attachment 5291077
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That is a mess. Ditch the trash social apps especially FB and insta****. Health is doing what? Is DeX just hanging out too?
All that message stuff?
G Board?
Which of these has bluetooth permissions?
Time to take out the trash... if you can bare to part with it. It all adds up.
The Adroid system looks high too.
Disable all power management after you take out the trash. Power management can cause erratic behavior and battery drain.
This what my 10+ battery profile looks like. I was using bt for a couple hours but it's bare bones.
The bells and whistles are power sucking and annoying.
Quazza said:
Is that high ? Went through ADB to break down the app usage ...
View attachment 5291077
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Have you tried turning off nearby device scanning (under connections) and Bluetooth scanning (under improve accuracy in location)?
Also are you able to see if anything is draining your watch faster than it was before?
blackhawk said:
That is a mess. Ditch the trash social apps especially FB and insta****. Health is doing what? Is DeX just hanging out too?
All that message stuff?
G Board?
Which of these has bluetooth permissions?
Time to take out the trash... if you can bare to part with it. It all adds up.
The Adroid system looks high too.
Disable all power management after you take out the trash. Power management can cause erratic behavior and battery drain.
This what my 10+ battery profile looks like. I was using bt for a couple hours but it's bare bones.
The bells and whistles are power sucking and annoying.
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Health is the app used to connect to the watch. G BOARD is the Google keyboard ? Use that all the time (same as IG and FB unfortunately)
mtm1401 said:
Have you tried turning off nearby device scanning (under connections) and Bluetooth scanning (under improve accuracy in location)?
Also are you able to see if anything is draining your watch faster than it was before?
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Yeah they are off already. The watch itself seems fine though
Quazza said:
Health is the app used to connect to the watch. G BOARD is the Google keyboard ? Use that all the time (same as IG and FB unfortunately)
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That should be ok then.
Google apks are notorious troublemakers though. Even Gmail I keep on a short leash.
Maybe the data in Health got corrupted, try clearing data or reloading it.
Don't forget all the Google apps and their many dependencies. One might be polling constantly and going unanswered*.
Tracking something like that down on a unrooted Android 10 or 11 platform is a bloody nightmare.
*I simply disabled Google Play Services expect when I need it because this.
Quazza said:
Yeah they are off already. The watch itself seems fine though
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If you disconnect the watch does the drain stop? Does the drain continue if you connect a different device? Might be easier to try resetting the watch before the phone?
mtm1401 said:
If you disconnect the watch does the drain stop? Does the drain continue if you connect a different device? Might be easier to try resetting the watch before the phone?
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Will disconnect the watch tomorrow when I wake and see.
It's been ok today. Only at 2% for the day
(Google Play services however showing as my second most used app )
Quazza said:
Will disconnect the watch tomorrow when I wake and see.
It's been ok today. Only at 2% for the day
(Google Play services however showing as my second most used app )
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You can disable GplayS in settings to see what happens. Mine is disabled right now.
You can also download Karma Firewall then firewall block GplayS, Google backup Transport and Android Services if those latter two aren't used by you. See if this helps.

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