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can anyone confirm that this does or does not work on our phone? I heard it doesn't work for CDMA

Works fine on CDMA however I can't get it to work on this phone. It starts fine and set up goes fine but then it will randomly turn itself off. May be a memory issue I'm not sure.

I've been running the beta, and have had no issues.
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Why not download it and find out?

ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?

illtema said:
ive been running the thing for weeks but i dont necessarily see any difference in batter life so i was doing some web research on what the best settings are and i noticed some ppl saying it doesn't work on cdma so i figured id ask the great minds of xda...
any suggestions on settings?
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I just turn it on. Last night my phone was idle for 9 hours, and only lost 1% battery.
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Last night w/ juice defender, off charger. Nothing else. Lol.
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The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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mackeydesigns said:
The asop fails to instal during setup, is this normal?
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It is, doesn't affect it.
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So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.

mackeydesigns said:
So I had to remove the app this morning. Not sure if it actually did anything, I used the plotter, and it kept it fairly level for a few hours early in the morning (3-4am) but I think whatever processes it runs to save battery also prevented my alarm from going off as well.
Two issues I ran into were my alarm not going off (even though it was set, i double checked it last night and this morning) and my screen refusing to turn off. Ended up rebooting the phone and removing the app and haven't had those issues again.
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The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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Daswolven said:
The app won't affect your alarm, might want to check task killers or memory managers. Not sure about the screen turning off, but it would be helpful to check your logs to find the problem. Sounds like you have something screwy going on.
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Could be true, could be false, that's sorta the problem.
Either way, I'll look into it.

I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.

stanmancan said:
I also have a problem with juice defender. I don't know if it is already a setting or not, but when using any program that utilizes 3g when the screen blanks out (screen mute) you loose connectivity even on programs that are running. I know that you can simply go in and disable juice defender, but it seems like the program could be written to allow programs you select to keep the 3g signal open even during screen mute as long as they are running. So in other words allow for another check list to allow only selected programs to use 3g no matter what. Please if this exists already let me know where the setting is cause I want it.
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Please check settings before posting. In the paid version you can set specific programs to always have access when running. I believe it is also in the beta for free.
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Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.

dricacho said:
Been running Juice Defender v1.8.8. for 2 days. Before that, I was running the BETA version. It's running on auto config as I wanted to see how it would manage on its own. Neither one seems to make a difference in battery consumption. It eventually stops running for some unknown reason. When running, the JD icon doesn't appear in the status bar but appears in the task manager. After a few hours, it disappears from task manager so I assume it stopped running. A friend of mine turned me onto this and swore that he got 16 hrs on a single charge on his rooted HTC Evo running Froyo (custom ROM), semi-heavy usage. He showed me at work, didn't charge his phone all day and by the time we were going home, he's still at 50% battery life. I'm running stock ROM (rooted - bloatware removed). I don't mind getting a paid version but if the free version is not working for me, I wouldn't even think of buying it.
Uninstalling JD as I type this.
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Is the version you stated the beta?
Disregard the question, lol, re-read your post.

I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing

Kamar234 said:
I have the paid version and I swear by it. I can go two days with moderate use. The only thing it does is great extends stand by time. You go hours without your battery moving a percentage point. I have the paid version and it is set by default, and you can set it yourself, to not turn off data if it is using the data. I don't know what the settings of the free version are, but when I'm using the data it never shuts it off. The only way it closes itself is when I charge it overnight. No big deal for all it does. Truly an essential, powerful app. I suggest people take a look at the settings and see how it is set up before dismissing it. Also get juice plotter to see what it's doing
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As with any app, different phones play differently with them. I hear from some that things don't work, when they run as intended on my phone. This will always be the case.
I can say absolutely that Juice Defender Beta works without a problem on my device, and I have tested it extensively. It does what it should without issues or problems.
That obviously isn't the case for everyone. I will suggest that before someone blast a well written app publicly and possibly discourage someone who might benefit from it from trying it out, that they contact the developer with their issues and see if there is a known conflict or bug. I have resolved issues with apps like this many times, and almost always it was something on my end that fixed it, not the app itself.

Daswolven, I agree with you completely. Learned that with my Droid1 with the overclock speeds and voodoo with this phone, some things just don't work properly on your particular handset. I took the time to understand what this app does and it is extremely powerful. The best way to find out what's good for you is to try it. On a side note, I have been harassing the makers of Beautiful Widgets about the fc issue with our phones. I think they actually took care of it with the last update because I haven't had one in a while haha.

I've also done research on another app called BatteryFu which is suppose to be a "lean and mean" battery saver, compared to JD. Toby Kurien, the author of BatteryFu, claims that JD is bloated and ended up using memory and battery - against what it's suppose to accomplish. One of the biggest battery drain is mobile connectivity. JD and BatteryFu intelligently and transparently manages this essentially enabling it when you need it and disabling it when you don't. On the Fascinate, other than switching to airplane mode, mobile data connection cannot be disabled according to Toby. So this renders those battery saver apps useless. Perhaps turning off the Background Data would slightly help but it is needed by the Android Market so you'll have to turn it on when you need to access the market. You can also try setting up multiple APN's. I haven't been able to figure out how to do this on the Fascinate. My friend has a Vibrant and you can go to SETTINGS -> MOBILE NETWORKS -> APN. The Fascinate doesn't have APN under MOBILE NETWORKS. Maybe someone here has a workaround.

Wifi always on, even when off in every setting

heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
btw, you can check in the battery stats page. just press on the graph, and it takes you to another page.

simms22 said:
heres a silly qiestion.. how many of you arel seeing wifi always on even though you have scanning always enabled turned off in wifi settings? i noticed this last night, and thought that its unusual. i did get mine to finally turn off, but i had to delete nfc from my phone.
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I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself

rootSU said:
I've seen threads by people with this problem. Never had it myself
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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.

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i didnt notice any extra battery drain. a friend with a nexus 5 asked me about it last night, so i looked and mine was on. every setting was off. deleting the nfc app from /system/app/ fixed it. lol, i dont see how its related though.
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Oh. I have NFC turned off also.

rootSU said:
Oh. I have NFC turned off also.
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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:

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turning it off did nothing for me. i tried that first :angel:
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I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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I can also confirm this. Even with everything turned off, I still get notifications of available WiFi networks. ???

I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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ben_pyett said:
I have also always got a constant wifi bar while being on lollipop and been surprised that I've not read more complaints. Have always scanning off.
Exactly which files did you remove and how?
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if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.

phyba said:
I get it. Been on the road all day with no access to WiFi and WiFi is off as well as the option to let google scan for WiFi. I don't notice any battery drain. Looks like a bug
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real battery drain i didnt notice either

If WiFi is off in settings and it still shows I think its a bug, because if you check it with gsam it shows it being off. A reboot with WiFi off when you reboot will fix it. I had the same thing on my m8 and now with this device also. Its a lollipop bug.

simms22 said:
if you have root.. i used root explorer, but any root file explorer should work. you go to /system/app/, then find the nfc app, delete it, then reboot. if you dont reboot, its not quite deleted yet. it is, but files are for it are still there.
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Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ben_pyett said:
Did you notice any actual benefit from doing this, ie increased battery, reduced power consumption etc
Down side is obviously lack of NFC although I don't actually use that so that's no impact
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ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.

simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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ben_pyett said:
On thinking about it.
I always leave my WiFi on which would most likely explain this pattern, unless I'm misunderstanding how this should actually work.
For example, I leave my house, the device automatically switches from active WiFi and jumps on to mobile data, but I suppose WiFi is still on in the background, I have scanning setting set to off. But the WiFi must be constantly scanning for an active connection with valid Internet access, as whenever i pass an active WiFi zone that I'm permissioned to access the device will jump onto it and then when I leave it's signal cover it falls back to mobile data.
This would obviously explain the constant pattern.
If I manually stop WiFi then the bar disappears completely from battery statistics.
So no mystery after all or I have got this wrong.
Slightly confused as to the significance of the nfc removal now unless I've completely misunderstood your initial point.
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i dont know how the nfc is connected either. but i do know, if all else fails, it works

I know that whenever I flash a new ROM, and get it booted up and then turn off WiFi that according to batt stats its still on. If you reboot it removes the signature from stats and it will show as it should.

I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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SpaceGooner said:
I don't think this is a bug. It only looks like WiFi is always on in the battery history when you have your location services set to maximum or medium accuracy. So even if you switch WiFi off completely in WiFi settings the device will still use WiFi to pinpoint its location. If you select the lowest location accuracy setting, you should see that WiFi bar below the battery graph stop. At least that's how it used to work on my Nexus 5. I stopped worrying about it after that.
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Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.

bill3508 said:
Well if your running high accuracy all the time with wifi on then that makes sense but unless I'm mistaken that's not the issue. I can reproduce the false WiFi problem every ROM flash on two different devices running lollipop.
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Fair enough. Like i said I only recall that by turning down location accuracy and turning off wifi on my N5 the device finally stopped reporting WiFi usage. On my N6 I have WiFi and high accuracy location on all the time so didn't realise there was a false reporting issue til seeing this thread. Hope it gets fixed in a future update I guess.
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simms22 said:
ill tell you tomorrow?
i only "fixed" it right before starting this thread. i dont ever use nfc, ok, once in 6 years, so its no issue here either. i actually normally delete it, but let it slide after 5.1.
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I'm seeing the same dang thing, my first thoughts were the WiFi only when plugged in or never, and then Google Location Services (making it device only), never thought NFC could be the culprit. I don't use it either, but I'd hate to think this feature that Google has been trying to push is putting WiFi on all the time, irrespective of if it's draining the battery.
I'm going to move the file from system and see how it goes.
Wouldn't freezing it yield the same outcome though? If yes, it'd be a slightly easier step for some.
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One Marshmallow user's impressions

http://tomhorsley.com/rants/doze-mode.html
I'm definitely reverting back to 5.1.1 when I get the time and energy to fool with it .

sounds like that was written by someone who hasn't even tried marshmallow yet. I have yet to experience any missed notifications, alarms or any issues relating to time in any way. If some apps are being affected by this then its a sign to the developer to fix their ****ty code because all of my apps relating to time at all have been working just fine and alot of them are still the same version they were on lollipop. Doze has improved my batter significantly. It sounds like this article was probably written by a developer who cant code properly and instead of improving his skills he'd rather complain and convince everyone to stay away from updates because he is unwilling to evolve. Even the article looks like it was written in paint...

I had indeed a wrong time bug some days ago...really strange and worrying, a reboot fixed it. First time ever since Android Froyo that I experienced something like that.

That author seems to think that Marshmallow's Doze is a horrible thing that breaks all apps that rely on background services, namely alarms and notifications, and couldn't possibly be fixed in 10 years (rather than a few months) due to Google's horrible mistake (rather than devs not fixing their code).
Frankly, it sounds like a bunch of hyperbole.
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He's wrong about how doze works. And if he's in the camp that doesn't understand it nor wants to rewrite his app. Then yeh he's the idiot group that Google is targeting and was writing garbage code anyway.

lol complete nonsense, my alarm has worked everyday since i flashed M, even on dev previews...the only issues i have with M are really the "slow to connect wifi when using toggles" and the weird wifi consumption on battery stats

Another annoying issue on M is that if your leave your phone longer in standby mode (display off), wifi turns off and you stop recieving notifications until you turn your phone on again. This is with wifi set to "never turn off", etc.

Kustaa said:
I had indeed a wrong time bug some days ago...really strange and worrying, a reboot fixed it. First time ever since Android Froyo that I experienced something like that.
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This actually happened with me a couple of days back, I was travelling, so I put my phone connected to a power bank and went for a nap, woke up to see phone switched off, switching it on throws me a 2nd September date set on my device. Had to manually set the date as no network was available to automatically set the date from servers.
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Another annoying issue on M is that if your leave your phone longer in standby mode (display off), wifi turns off and you stop recieving notifications until you turn your phone on again. This is with wifi set to "never turn off", etc.
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This I had been noticing these days just because of WhatsApp Web. When in standby, WhatsApp Web shows phone not connected error. Just waking the phone reconnects to the WiFi, but happens every 30-40mins.

I have a feeling that folks who never see these problems have their phones charging at night and doze mode doesn't happen when you are charging. I have no convenient way to charge my phone near my bed, so it is not charging and totally idle all night. Email and messaging completely stops. Only the stock alarm clock works. My medication reminder stops working. It might as well be turned off completely. Plus when you do wake up and turn on the phone, all the pent up alerts come through and scare the hell out of you. I hate doze mode.

Settings -> Battery -> ... (menu)-> Battery Optimization --> All apps --> Select whatsapp, etc... and select not optimized.
Test again.
You're welcome.

I already disabled optimization in the battery settings for all the apps that weren't working. They still don't work after sitting overnight. It looks as if that setting has absolutely no effect.

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I already disabled optimization in the battery settings for all the apps that weren't working. They still don't work after sitting overnight. It looks as if that setting has absolutely no effect.
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This is a real problem. I tested this on a Nexus 5. The device seems to enter Doze after about 1 hour and this is what happens.
What does work in Doze mode:
- Telephone: call can be heard.
- Alarm: alarm can be heard
What does NOT work in Doze mode:
- Receiving mail notifications directly: it seems to wait for the maintenance window. There is no "ping" from my GMail. No lock screen notification until I picked it up. I turned off battery optimalization as suggested. Like Claghorn says, it doesn't make a difference. When I was sleeping, the time difference between sending the mail and getting a notification can be hours. That is not acceptable: I want to determine whether or not I get a message. I got no control over Doze, except plugging it in. Also, when it sits on the desk at work I need to pick it up or turn the screen on every so often, because I don't know if it "dozed" off again.
Works partially:
- Notification light: It works once mail passes through the maintenance window. It does NOT work before the maintenance window.
I tested all of this with a unrooted, updated Nexus 5. Topic Starter and Claghorn have good points. Why can't I turn this off? I don't want this. I want notification on time, with ping, right now. If I don't I will turn the volume off or set priorities. They could have told me this behavior in a mail or during the update. Important mail from work, family comes in hours late. Not happy with this at all.
Tried all sorts of things, nothing seems to help. And no, battery optimalization is either not enough or has nothing to do with it. I love the Nexus 5. Marshmallow seems to be much smoother than Lollipop. I was happy with the update until I discovered this. Now, I am fustrated. I expect the phone to inform me when I need to be informed. Most days I don't need to save 10% of power anyway. For the first time I want to either root the phone and go back to Lollipop or even Kitkat. I don't know what else can be done. Fustrated.

Dennis de Swart said:
This is a real problem. I tested this on a Nexus 5. The device seems to enter Doze after about 1 hour and this is what happens.
What does work in Doze mode:
- Telephone: call can be heard.
- Alarm: alarm can be heard
What does NOT work in Doze mode:
- Receiving mail notifications directly: it seems to wait for the maintenance window. There is no "ping" from my GMail. No lock screen notification until I picked it up. I turned off battery optimalization as suggested. Like Claghorn says, it doesn't make a difference. When I was sleeping, the time difference between sending the mail and getting a notification can be hours. That is not acceptable: I want to determine whether or not I get a message. I got no control over Doze, except plugging it in. Also, when it sits on the desk at work I need to pick it up or turn the screen on every so often, because I don't know if it "dozed" off again.
Works partially:
- Notification light: It works once mail passes through the maintenance window. It does NOT work before the maintenance window.
I tested all of this with a unrooted, updated Nexus 5. Topic Starter and Claghorn have good points. Why can't I turn this off? I don't want this. I want notification on time, with ping, right now. If I don't I will turn the volume off or set priorities. They could have told me this behavior in a mail or during the update. Important mail from work, family comes in hours late. Not happy with this at all.
Tried all sorts of things, nothing seems to help. And no, battery optimalization is either not enough or has nothing to do with it. I love the Nexus 5. Marshmallow seems to be much smoother than Lollipop. I was happy with the update until I discovered this. Now, I am fustrated. I expect the phone to inform me when I need to be informed. Most days I don't need to save 10% of power anyway. For the first time I want to either root the phone and go back to Lollipop or even Kitkat. I don't know what else can be done. Fustrated.
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A quick suggestion -
You may use Doze Mode Editor and edit the script so that your phone never enters Doze mode.
That way you can enjoy Marshmallow without Doze.
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Achilles. said:
A quick suggestion -
You may use Doze Mode Editor and edit the script so that your phone never enters Doze mode.
That way you can enjoy Marshmallow without Doze.
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Thanks, I will look into that. I'd like to keep Mashmallow as a whole if possible. I think it is a good update in general.

OK, I've looked at the doze mode editor thread and I find that the descriptions of the parameters I can set to be totally confusing, however, the flowchart pointed at in that thread seems to indicate that if I set the "inactive_to" value to something like 24 hours, then all the other doze mode nonsense is unlikely to ever happen (because I'll probably turn on my phone at least once every 24 hours). Does that seem like the best way to essentially turn off doze mode?

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OK, I've looked at the doze mode editor thread and I find that the descriptions of the parameters I can set to be totally confusing, however, the flowchart pointed at in that thread seems to indicate that if I set the "inactive_to" value to something like 24 hours, then all the other doze mode nonsense is unlikely to ever happen (because I'll probably turn on my phone at least once every 24 hours). Does that seem like the best way to essentially turn off doze mode?
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I will look into this over the weekend. I find it odd that there isn't simply a switch to turn Doze off, which is a pity. It seems to me it's part of saving energy in general. A switch under Battery would do nicely. It should not be this complicated. That said, I think the UI of Marshmallow is silky smooth, much better than Lollipop. Marshmallow in general in good. It' just this that annoys me.

i'm baffled by google's aversion to end user config. This kind of b.s. is how I found xda and drove me to become a chronic flashaholic. All or nothin I guess.

ElwOOd_CbGp said:
i'm baffled by google's aversion to end user config. This kind of b.s. is how I found xda and drove me to become a chronic flashaholic. All or nothin I guess.
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I get the feeling Google assumes the customer is a developer. A few examples:
- The Nexus 5 does have a notification light: I didn't know until I read 5 reviews and even then I couldn't find any documentation on it. Needed an external app to get it working.
- Battery indicator: I like to have small numbers indicating battery charge: it could be done by hacking KitKat and Lollipop I think. Then at Marshmallow finally there's a (hidden) switch.
- I don't recall having any user guide in the Nexus 5 package. Not that I needed one. But some landing page doing a walkthrough would have been nice. Although there are some walkthroughs in every app
Not fatal flaws, but you wonder why does it need to be that difficult. It scares people away. Not me. I handed the Nexus 5 to some friends on numerous occasions and most found it too "empty". As for me, I want all developer stuff on. So it suprised me, there is no Doze fine tuning. Again, overall I give the Nexus a 8 or 9 out of 10. It fits me. In general I like it. So it's just constructive criticism. The empty layout and raw speed of the Nexus 5 works good in development of apps afterall.

Last night I ran an adb command (generated by the doze mode editor app) to set inactive_to to 24 hours (86400000 milliseconds). I then set an alarm for the next morning in the "Alarm Clock Plus" app (which completely ceased to function after Marshmallow showed up). This morning, the alarm actually went off on time, but the big "Dismiss" button it draws on the screen was totally non-functional. I had to hit the power button to get control (which then caused a popup saying alarm clock plus was non-responsive). I have no idea what caused all that behavior, but at least the alarm actually went off.
Also, with doze mode essentially disabled (in theory anyway), the power dropped from 100% in the evening all the way down to 97% in the morning.

With the exception to facebook and game type apps, Google's apps are the only ones I find that excessively waste resourxes and need to be forced to sleep. If they would get off the constant location polling, media scanning, and logging or at least tone it down a bit some they wouldnt need to implement thier half baked versions of solutions that they hijacked from xda devs

auto closing high power usage apps bug?

Does anyone experience any problems with this setting on 4.1.3? On my phone if i switch it off it sometimes switches itself back on. It also seems to close down apps without notifying me. They are just greyed out and cannot be cleared or removed. (Podcast republic and swipe). Those two apps are also the reason i want it switched off as they stop functioning properly if on.
It seems to be linked to the power saving auto rotate switch-off bug as it tends to happen most of the time when the auto rotate isn't switched on again when i charge the phone. Anyone else experiencing this?
Phone is not rooted and run on stock rom

Lol everybody learning how to set up the new power savers that the development community has been using since the days of ics.
1st problem sounds like you ambient display enabled which will turn on your phone every time you receive some sort of notification. To fix this simply go into your settings, display and turn off ambient display and don't get it confused with adaptive brightness.
2nd problem to me sounds like you have aggressive doze mode active on all your apps or auto close high power apps. To fix this just go to settings, battery, click the 3 dots next to the refresh symbol near the top right corner, click aggressive doze..., if it's turned on make sure the slider is not enabled next to the apps you desire, hit the back button, click on the 3 dots top right corner again, click on high power usage apps, turn it off if it's on.
These battery savers in the Android os are basically hacked and slashed from development on xda. Greenify did most of these functions alone then if you were to mash greenify with power nap you basically got yourself aggressive doze with closing of high usage apps.
Sadly Google is still behind the curve as the power saver app on my Asus Zenfone 2 does a better job at saving power on lollipop because in addition to hibernating and closing apps it allowed you to turn off networks allowing only phone, sms, and alarm to work after the device is asleep and enabled upon waking or you could do super saving which did the same thing except the network stays disabled the whole time boosting standby time from 92 hrs to 105 hrs
Seriously though the best course of action here if this does not help you is to contact the developer of the app and tell them the issues your having, your device and a detailed log report and you will see better results faster because it's probably just an incompatibility​ due to the new os as apps always have issues with fresh out of the gate os systems and your might not be the only person with this issue but you just might be the only person to point it out for a long time.
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i snort flour said:
Lol everybody learning how to set up the new power savers that the development community has been using since the days of ics.
1st problem sounds like you ambient display enabled which will turn on your phone every time you receive some sort of notification. To fix this simply go into your settings, display and turn off ambient display and don't get it confused with adaptive brightness.
2nd problem to me sounds like you have aggressive doze mode active on all your apps or auto close high power apps. To fix this just go to settings, battery, click the 3 dots next to the refresh symbol near the top right corner, click aggressive doze..., if it's turned on make sure the slider is not enabled next to the apps you desire, hit the back button, click on the 3 dots top right corner again, click on high power usage apps, turn it off if it's on.
These battery savers in the Android os are basically hacked and slashed from development on xda. Greenify did most of these functions alone then if you were to mash greenify with power nap you basically got yourself aggressive doze with closing of high usage apps.
Sadly Google is still behind the curve as the power saver app on my Asus Zenfone 2 does a better job at saving power on lollipop because in addition to hibernating and closing apps it allowed you to turn off networks allowing only phone, sms, and alarm to work after the device is asleep and enabled upon waking or you could do super saving which did the same thing except the network stays disabled the whole time boosting standby time from 92 hrs to 105 hrs
Seriously though the best course of action here if this does not help you is to contact the developer of the app and tell them the issues your having, your device and a detailed log report and you will see better results faster because it's probably just an incompatibility​ due to the new os as apps always have issues with fresh out of the gate os systems and your might not be the only person with this issue but you just might be the only person to point it out for a long time.
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A) ambient screen is off already
B) already done that but the apps work better if battery optimisation is on for them than off. They really misbehave if not optimised.
How do I produce the logs? Checking under the specific app under apps doesn't seem to have an app log option.

Eggstones said:
Thanks
A) ambient screen is off already
B) already done that but the apps work better if battery optimisation is on for them than off. They really misbehave if not optimised.
How do I produce the logs? Checking under the specific app under apps doesn't seem to have an app log option.
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Grab a catlog off of the play store they are fairly simple to figure out and they are free. I can't remember for sure but I believe I liked logcat the best as it provided a better ui with a more detailed and easier to read log.
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Eggstones said:
Thanks
A) ambient screen is off already
B) already done that but the apps work better if battery optimisation is on for them than off. They really misbehave if not optimised.
How do I produce the logs? Checking under the specific app under apps doesn't seem to have an app log option.
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That's weird that it keeps turning back on hopefully it's not a hardware issue. Most likely due to a rogue incompatible app. Also if you haven't already done so check for an update and make sure you have the latest version and if that don't work the last thing I could think of to try would be to download the latest update and put it on your phone somewhere you can remember, reboot into recovery and erase your cache and perform a factory reset followed by another cache wipe just to be sure. Then select install update from zip file, navigate to it's directory and open it, allow it install the update and after it completely has finished booting don't use it but keep the screen from turning off for about 2 minutes
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Sorry I can't be of more help to you but I just got my phone today and I'm on the oos 4.1.3 and mine is doing just fine so far but I don't sync mail, push notifications, or use any social media which drain your battery like a hooker with your bank account. So far I'm at 10+ hrs uptime with 4 hrs of sot sitting at 66% battery life with an estimated 20 hrs left.
hope you find your problem or at least know where you got take your issue to which will be discovered in your cat log so you will know if it's the apps, kernels, os or hardware that is to blame and be able to address it to the proper source.
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List your issues with P30 Pro

Not sure if this is permitted by the mods, but let's make a list of issues and bugs you experience on your P30 Pro. It's a fantastic device, but every now and then I run into, or hear about some stupid issue that impacts the overall experience, but probably could be fixed if reported.
Two of my biggest issues right now:
screen gets unresponsive at times in the bottom left corner
sometimes when I pull down WhatsApp notifications, if there are more of them they get stuck on the screen and won't pull back up, not even using the back key, only swiping them one by one gets them off the screen

My only issue: Having to pay to a rip off like FunkyHuawei to get my official updates!

JazonX said:
My only issue: Having to pay to a rip off like FunkyHuawei to get my official updates!
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I followed the instructions in the link to the thread below to get the latest updates.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...orial-vog-l29-flash-firmware-153-usb-t3928793

Ghost vibrations.. I have turned off vibrations now since it does vibrate without getting notifications like once or twice/hour or 2...

Updates from Huawei seem very staggered, seem to mainly be looking after their own country who seem to be about 3 firmware’s ahead of a lot of other places. i know a lot are getting v153 now but why are a lot going straight from 124 to 153 yet some places got fw's in-between in the 140's? i am currently on 124 and my provider EE in the uk say they still haven’t received any newer fw from Huawei since v124.
Issues with screen response, sometimes i have to tap home button a couple of times for it to register, same with some notifications when i unlock the screen, having to tap them a few times.
The software is really rubbish compared to Samsung, i have only just come over to Huawei from Samsung, i had an s8 and it had not long got One Ui, and that genuinely felt more developed, faster and smoother on my s8 that one this p30 pro.
There’s been a couple of times i have contacted the Huawei chat on the Hicare app and they are really funny cause whatever i tell them my issue is they seem to always want me to completely reset my device.
I keep getting really annoying gray bubble pop up notifications telling me apps have been blocked from showing their dropzone and other notifications similar that i know has happened, like sound has been changed etc, not sure how to turn them off cause i don't need them to keep telling me.
I don't understand why Huawei would release a flagship phone and not have the software just feel complete and nice because at the end of the day it’s that which you pretty much judge the phone on.
I guess i also don't like that there seems to be too many settings to change and turn off to make the phone useable, that’s why doing a flash that wipes the phone is really putting me off doing that and using the method that’s being used at the moment to update to 153 via the OTG method.
The screen auto brightness bug that’s not a bug according to huawei and is a feature? The fact that every time i restart my phone i turn auto brightness off and then it comes back on every restart! It really makes me laugh that they think forcing you to have to do that every time you restart is a good feature to have. They say it saves power so it good, yes if you leave it on! i was talking to them and said well the slider is there to have auto on or not so if people wanted it on, they would leave it on would they not? It’s not the biggest issue in the world but it’s fun arguing with them about it, it does annoy me though lol

My issue is simple, EMUI.
Coming from an S10 and oneUI and mix 3 with miui made me realize how bad EMUI is in everything, cloning iOS, native apps like dialer gallery calendar, missed up setrings, Crippled animations (this is a huge one) and notifications. Stupid decissions like launching the camera with volume down. Many many things
I just wish Huawei support at least native Android interface, animations and gestures

Hello,
I have P30 Pro L29 Global
256GB with 8GB of RAM
Update 9.1.0.140
My issue previouly was huge battery drain which makes no sense for p30 pro to run out of battery at 7pm (100% at 7.00am) for moderate usage.
So I have tried clearing cache partition and factory reset several times to find out the culprit. It seems the battery drain stops when I factory reset and did not restore anything from HiSuite (I start fresh).
Setting > Battery > Usage
What I noticed was that the battery drain seems to happen when "Phone Services" at 34% usage. Initially I thought it was normal but after comparing with the p30 pro's of my colleague, her "Phone Services" always lower than 2% usage.
The main culprit that i suspected was Carrier Services which I didn't update till this day in playstore.
I also stop the Carrier Services in Developer mode 1 time.
Until now my battery life is superb. Lasting me 30 hours of moderate usage (still have 37%) at the time I recharge.
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- Firmware updates are messed up, they need to fix this
- Annoying beeps without any notification icon
- Memory management is way to agressive (softphones like skype keep missing calls)
- Native android options are missing
- Response to back button or home button is sometimes not working only after after pressing it multiple times it works.
All above can easily be fixed, the real question is will they fix it ?

Issues i have is that sometimes when i m fast typing a message the keyboard disappeared(i m using gestures, I don't know if this is the case) and the AOD with smart view flip case issue. Other than that i have zero issues, extreme great battery life 2 full days with normal use(facebook ,instagram ,mail ,chatting, light gaming e.t.c.) and 35% left or 1+ day heavy usage. I m coming from p20 pro and yes at the beginning i was very fraustrating with emui and how it works, but after learned and used to it, i loved it(it should be smoother though). My major complain is the lack of notification led, I missed it soooo much.

I have the P30 Pro, VOG-AL10, 8GB/512GB model; gifted from a friend
I have a couple annoyances
1) My biggest problem (along with any other mainland Android phone I've owned) is there is no way to force full encryption. You can only add stuff to the "safe."
2) My second annoyance is the aggressive power management. I've done a lot of my own tweaking so it doesn't force close my Cisco AnyConnect client for example. I use LastPass for password management and for whatever reason, whenever I re-open the app it requires I use my 2FA again even when I choose remember for 30 days. I don't know if this is a LastPass problem or what. The only way to keep it from resetting is to keep it active in my open apps.
3) Even though I use Chrome as the default browser, for certain tasks (like using a WiFi hotspot that requires registration), it will still open in the default browser which you need to accept their TOS to use...
4) I use SwiftKeys as my default keyboard. I have the Huawei IME unchecked. I use the phone, after a while the Huawei IME will get enabled again.

The BIGGEST issue I am facing is the lack of the Camera2.API implementation with the p30 pro

papavales said:
Issues i have is that sometimes when i m fast typing a message the keyboard disappeared(i m using gestures, I don't know if this is the case) and the AOD with smart view flip case issue. Other than that i have zero issues, extreme great battery life 2 full days with normal use(facebook ,instagram ,mail ,chatting, light gaming e.t.c.) and 35% left or 1+ day heavy usage. I m coming from p20 pro and yes at the beginning i was very fraustrating with emui and how it works, but after learned and used to it, i loved it(it should be smoother though). My major complain is the lack of notification led, I missed it soooo much.
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I've this problem when typing while using Whatsapp I don't know why but sometimes I go to the home screen accidentally while I'm typing

Supreme_One said:
I've this problem when typing while using Whatsapp I don't know why but sometimes I go to the home screen accidentally while I'm typing
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Yes exactly. Do you also use gestures?

papavales said:
Yes exactly. Do you also use gestures?
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Not anymore

JazonX said:
My only issue: Having to pay to a rip off like FunkyHuawei to get my official updates!
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Even doing that you can render certain features unusable since they aren't certified so saftey net fails meaning some games, banking apps and g pay won't work. I've reset using the USB method mentioned and have everything back to normal. Just going to be patient instead of blowing cash and wrecking stuff.
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I think aperture mode is rubbish. Really poor quality, unless anyone has any suggestion to improve it. However just standard photos of objects seems to have fairly decent bokeh by default so use that as a kind of object portrait mode.

Elvent said:
Hello,
I have P30 Pro L29 Global
256GB with 8GB of RAM
Update 9.1.0.140
My issue previouly was huge battery drain which makes no sense for p30 pro to run out of battery at 7pm (100% at 7.00am) for moderate usage.
So I have tried clearing cache partition and factory reset several times to find out the culprit. It seems the battery drain stops when I factory reset and did not restore anything from HiSuite (I start fresh).
Setting > Battery > Usage
What I noticed was that the battery drain seems to happen when "Phone Services" at 34% usage. Initially I thought it was normal but after comparing with the p30 pro's of my colleague, her "Phone Services" always lower than 2% usage.
The main culprit that i suspected was Carrier Services which I didn't update till this day in playstore.
I also stop the Carrier Services in Developer mode 1 time.
Until now my battery life is superb. Lasting me 30 hours of moderate usage (still have 37%) at the time I recharge.
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I am not sure I understand what your problem was precisely and how did you solve it?

drcldrcl said:
I am not sure I understand what your problem was precisely and how did you solve it?
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Issue : abnormal Battery Drain & The device heat up when I connect to other bluetooth device (which never happened on my mate 20)
I want to put a screenshot here to let you guys see what i mean. but still dont have permission.
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Android Auto doesn't work most of the time, and when it does, it stops working after a couple of minutes.

1) No Bootloader unlock
2) No way to set Alarm tone Globally
3) Missing an option to install firmware manually
4) Change volume without preview sound
5) Some basic apps are not system apps and when uninstalling them having no way of getting them back (not available on PlayStore, AppStore)

Im on 9.1.0.131 firmware.
My problems are:
1. Phone sometimes vibrates without any notification icon
2. Proximity sensor doesn't work sometimes during phone calls. The screen is lit up the whole time Im on my phone
3. The slow motion videos at higher fps are of ****ty quality
4. Opening up the apps from notifications panel doesn't response sometimes and the respective app doesn't open up
Though I dont have any issues like other mentioned like battery draining, heating up etc