Stamina mode = Built-in Juice Defender? - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am using Juice Defender Ultimate on my SXS to pump up battery life and it helps a lot. This Stamina mode on the Z - is this about the same thing offered by Sony right out of the box? W. Does it also offer detailed options to modify the settings to my liking or has is it a more radical impact on the system?

It's sort of the same, perhaps a bit more limited since it gives you less control while also being more effective. Basically when you turn it on it tries to force a deep sleep after a while in standby and it turns off the data connection if you have no exclusions.
With exclusions the data connection will most likely stay on but it'll still go in deep sleep and only wakes up for apps in your exclusion list.
I have to say it works extremely well. Battery drain in standby with stamina mode on and a few exclusions (Gmail, FB Messenger, WhatsApp, GTalk) is virtually zero.

Thats what juice defender and power saver should've been.
You information is informative ambroos.
Your from esato? Correct me if im wrong.
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It should have more impact on the device. Juice defender may have some similarities with stamina mode but let's also consider the integration of the feature.
1st juice defender is a 3rd party option and most probably has only limited things which it can do to the device itself. While the stamina mode is an integrated part of the OS so we could expect a 100% compatibility with all it's features.
It's basically like this...
Maybe you could compare it to a real life situation like this.
Battery defender = sleeping pills
Stamina mode = natural sleep

DarkKrypt said:
Thats what juice defender and power saver should've been.
You information is informative ambroos.
Your from esato? Correct me if im wrong.
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I'm everywhere Was here before I was on Esato.
There are times when Stamina Mode can't be enforced though. Then you get a notification that for example Google Plus is preventing the phone from entering Stamina Mode. Usually when those apps are doing some background syncing. But in general it works really well.

and now the big question will adding some 3rd parts app like juice defender or simmilar increase battery life even moar ??

I think installing a third party app like battery defender will interfere with stamina mode because you then have two similar features trying to do the same thing which might give you the opposite results. I think

The main problem with Stamina Mode is that it won't actually stop services/apps. Since I have Gmail and Exchange syncing Stamina just notifies me that those services are preventing sleep; obviously I wouldn't want stop those from syncing. I really wish it would just allow a set 'burst' mode, let you specify the interval and force all syncing/updates to occur during that window.

Ambroos said:
It's sort of the same, perhaps a bit more limited since it gives you less control while also being more effective. Basically when you turn it on it tries to force a deep sleep after a while in standby and it turns off the data connection if you have no exclusions.
With exclusions the data connection will most likely stay on but it'll still go in deep sleep and only wakes up for apps in your exclusion list.
I have to say it works extremely well. Battery drain in standby with stamina mode on and a few exclusions (Gmail, FB Messenger, WhatsApp, GTalk) is virtually zero.
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I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?

parapaul said:
I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
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Suppose you are in a meeting or at the movies, you could save a lot of battery if g3/g4 is switched off. If you check every 2 minutes your phone I can imagine it doesn't matter although I suppose they switch the antennas off after longer inactivity

parapaul said:
I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
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Not sure. I use it with exclusions so data stays on anyway. Not sure if it actually does anything but the battery does last long and the notifications I want still arrive...

Ambroos said:
Not sure. I use it with exclusions so data stays on anyway. Not sure if it actually does anything but the battery does last long and the notifications I want still arrive...
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Are you sure the exceptions aren't Smart Connect? Stamina Mode is just a toggle, at least for me.

Try to tap the name of it, not the toggle
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Battery is draining due to WiFi partial wake lock on Android system process

Hi all,
After noticing my battery was draining quickly, and then after reading this thread , I installed Android System Info to see what was draining my battery so fast. I notice that whenever I would turn on WiFi, the phone will never go to sleep , regardless of what I set the WiFi sleep policy to. After turning off WiFi, the battery still drains heavily.
The WiFi will shut off after 15mins (if you set it to "When screen turns off" or "never when plugged in"). However it seems to keep the CPU on causing it to drain down the battery.
It would seem that whenever WiFi is enabled, the Android system process creates a partial wakelock that does not go away even if you turn off WiFi, and even when the WiFi shuts off as per the WiFi sleep policy. The only way to resolve this is by powering off or rebooting the phone.
You can verify this in Android System Info by going into Battery-History-Other Usage-Partial Wake usage to see how much time the "Android System" process holding a partial wake.
I even did a factory reset on the device; and it is still happening so it doesn't appear to be any app that caused the issue. As I said, it works fine as long as I don't enable WiFi.
I already know of two users having this issue, but I'm wondering if folks having battery problems are going through this as well. Is anyone else having similar issues after using WiFi? I'm hoping someone will be able to identify what exactly is putting the wakelock on and we'll be able to find a fix for it. Other than not using WiFi at all or rebooting the phone after using Wifi.
Does someone know if there is a utility to drill down and see which process would be causing the wakelock? "Android System" doesn't give me any more details.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
btw I'm not using any battery savers or task killers.
Update...i have the wifi sleep policy set to "never". Also have the network time sync disabled. I am no longer getting alot of battery drain from the Android System partial wakelock.
However, this means WiFi is on all the time....which burns up the battery as well.
Do you think this is a Samsung bug or Android that won't properly let the device sleep when the WiFi sleep policy is set to anything but Never?
Hoping someone at XDA can figure this one out.
I wonder the same thing...I lose about 20% during the night when the phone is not used for about 7 hrs. Not sure if that's normal or not
fldude99 said:
I wonder the same thing...I lose about 20% during the night when the phone is not used for about 7 hrs. Not sure if that's normal or not
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Set the WiFi sleep policy to "Never" and reboot the phone. Shut WiFi off if possible overnight. You should notice a big improvement with battery life.
Devs - is there any way to see what is wakelocking the Android System process?
The WiFi sleep policy seems to be broke on the Captivate so hoping someone that really knows these things can help out to identify what is going on.
I've had wifi sleep policy to "never" since I got it. Turning off wifi when going to sleep will slow down battery drain when the phone is not in use all night?
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I've had wifi sleep policy to "never" since I got it. Turning off wifi when going to sleep will slow down battery drain when the phone is not in use all night?
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It should. Also setting the network to gsm only will use less battery. We need to find a way to see what process is holding that lock. Any dev experts out there please chime in.
fldude99 said:
I wonder the same thing...I lose about 20% during the night when the phone is not used for about 7 hrs. Not sure if that's normal or not
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That is anything but normal unless you live where your cell signal is very weak. I see about 1% lose every 60- 90 minutes when idle. 10-12% when browsing or reading xda. Dont do heavy gaming do not sure what you should see there. Weak cell signal will kill battery life as can other factors.
I do have a weak cell signal at my house. I'll have to ck it in idle mode in my office, where I have a good signal to see if that makes a difference
On the other hand I just recently installed beautiful widgets and use it's live wallpaper. Also lookout..I'm thinking that could be a battery hog
I'm experiancing the exact issue in the op.
Android System is holding a partial wake lock of about 30-40%
My battery drains 40% overnight.
Are there any fixes for this?
The problem for me was definitely the stock email app continuously polling my Exchange server, killing the battery and my data plan. I resolved it by removing the Exchange server from the stock mail app, and by using Nitrodesk's excellent Touchdown app for mail instead. Touchdown isn't free but it's very good. And now my battery performance is back where to it was prior to the Gingerbread update.
Thanks, Google, for carefully testing this update before releasing it on the unsuspecting public (NOT). You caused a lot of grief for a lot of people.
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DarrylGittins said:
The problem for me was definitely the stock email app continuously polling my Exchange server, killing the battery and my data plan. I resolved it by removing the Exchange server from the stock mail app, and by using Nitrodesk's excellent Touchdown app for mail instead. Touchdown isn't free but it's very good. And now my battery performance is back where to it was prior to the Gingerbread update.
Thanks, Google, for carefully testing this update before releasing it on the unsuspecting public (NOT). You caused a lot of grief for a lot of people.
FAIL!
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I may be wrong, but isn't the default email app from Samsung?
Though, you are correct. I setup my work exchange on it as well and it is definitely a killer. Lately I haven't really been giving a **** and just charge my phone every night. However, I might look into this Touchdown app now.
DarrylGittins said:
The problem for me was definitely the stock email app continuously polling my Exchange server, killing the battery and my data plan. I resolved it by removing the Exchange server from the stock mail app, and by using Nitrodesk's excellent Touchdown app for mail instead. Touchdown isn't free but it's very good. And now my battery performance is back where to it was prior to the Gingerbread update.
Thanks, Google, for carefully testing this update before releasing it on the unsuspecting public (NOT). You caused a lot of grief for a lot of people.
FAIL!
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for the stock email app you can configure the sync schedule so it doesn't continuously poll your exchange server overnight. i have my sync schedule set to push when i normally wake up and an hour after i get off of work. during off peak hours its set to manually update.
waldo98 said:
for the stock email app you can configure the sync schedule so it doesn't continuously poll your exchange server overnight. i have my sync schedule set to push when i normally wake up and an hour after i get off of work. during off peak hours its set to manually update.
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how did you set this up??

Why does not Note get into sleep mode?

I have a galaxy note, upgraded to the last version of 2.3.6 (JPLA1).
After upgrade i relized that the battery life has decreased. Then i made a factory reset. However, my phone does not stay in deep sleep mode very long. Actually it stays awake during whole night.
What could be the cause of this problem???
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ardicli2000 said:
I have a galaxy note, upgraded to the last version of 2.3.6 (JPLA1).
After upgrade i relized that the battery life has decreased. Then i made a factory reset. However, my phone does not stay in deep sleep mode very long. Actually it stays awake during whole night.
What could be the cause of this problem???
I have taken screen shots, attached...
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the best although a bit demanding way is to check with BetterBatteryStats,
you could also try disabling not-absolutely-necessary features (GPS, some data syncs etc.) to check which decreases battery consumption,
there's also Autorun Manager with which you can disable unnecessary startup apps (lots of them are set to autorun after device start, some may try to update over the net too frequently)
I wonder what firmware you're on... mine (LB1) shows wifi status on the summary screen as well. my phone used to stay awake all night too, until I started turning off wifi for the night (FYI, I shut down the cell data connection when I arrive home, so it's not on for the night either)
leppo said:
I wonder what firmware you're on... mine (LB1) shows wifi status on the summary screen as well. my phone used to stay awake all night too, until I started turning off wifi for the night (FYI, I shut down the cell data connection when I arrive home, so it's not on for the night either)
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Mine is LA1.
And my wifi is off as well as data connection during the night.
Also i realized something wierd. If i activate 3g, Android OS drains battery more than 70% percent. If i activate 2g, then Android OS drains only 10-15%. DAta connection is on for both. There could be a problem with the LA1 kernel maybe but i am not sure.
From what i've read, while (really) sleeping, the note shouldn't take more than 5%, and that seems normal/logical to me. But in my case, it drains 70% and it seems even in plane mode, i just don't get it...
p107r0 said:
the best although a bit demanding way is to check with BetterBatteryStats,
you could also try disabling not-absolutely-necessary features (GPS, some data syncs etc.) to check which decreases battery consumption,
there's also Autorun Manager with which you can disable unnecessary startup apps (lots of them are set to autorun after device start, some may try to update over the net too frequently)
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+1 betterbatterystats
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Try disabling Fast Dormancy, it does generate wakelocks on my SGN as my network doesn't support the feature.
Dial *#*#9900#*#* and select "Disable fast dormancy".
That's good for reducing some wakelocks anyway.
knightnz said:
Try disabling Fast Dormancy, it does generate wakelocks on my SGN as my network doesn't support the feature.
Dial *#*#9900#*#* and select "Disable fast dormancy".
That's good for reducing some wakelocks anyway.
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If I dial that the phone just dials that number. Did I do something wrong here?
lukabike said:
If I dial that the phone just dials that number. Did I do something wrong here?
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I tried it and it worked as expected. Are you entering the full string (both numbers & symbols) on the default phone dialer?
*#*#9900#*#*
two_handed said:
+1 betterbatterystats
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I installed betterbatterystats but i did not get it very much.
Should i check something or change some of the settings?
or the program does what is necessary by itself?
I think this is not the case because my phone still does not enter into sleep mode.
@knightnz
I disabled fast dormancy. But i like to ask something.
What is fast dormancy?
Edit: I checked my phone now. There left 75% battery after 10 hours less than normal use. Data and 3g is on. However i unchecked "backup my data". I think this made me gain 10 hours of battery life
BadAss Battery Monitor (free)
Press menu and "App sucker". Go to "wake ups" or something like that. Let the phone run in standby for some while before checking. I bet it's an app that won't go to sleep.
I used to get this quite often but I found a way to stop it. Basically when i disconnected the charger when the screen was off the phone always stayed awake the only way to put it back to normal was to reset the cache in download mode. So i tried disconnecting the charger after putting the screen on first ( unlock phone) and it never happened again.
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LordManhattan said:
BadAss Battery Monitor (free)
Press menu and "App sucker". Go to "wake ups" or something like that. Let the phone run in standby for some while before checking. I bet it's an app that won't go to sleep.
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I have installed BetterBatterStats. When i checked partial wakelocks, the higher count is for AlarmManager (Android System). And the higher percentage (0,5%) is for PowerAMP.
Does this mean anything?
May i ask, how many % does your note consume every x hours? Making a report with your kernel/rom would be good, don't you think? Maybe a poll?

[Tutorial] Battery saving techniques

So yes this Phone's battery unfortuanatly is not well at all.. but here is how i managed mine to last a day without charging. Let me also say im a heavy user also. I text A LOT and always pull out my phone in class play a few games to pass the time or just browse my phone. So this does work for heavy / light users.
Go to Wifi/ menu / advanced and click never on Keep wifi on during sleep.
Go to settings/ Location access - Switch to off
For your brightness it will be on Auto switch that off and put it almost to the lowest as you dont really need it high just kills the battery.
- Go to the App store and download Easy Battery savor. When you access the app choose intiligent mode. It really helps !
-Dont ever use live wallpaper it just drains it so fast.
- DOwnload Faux App It really helps (Faux kernel Enhancement Project) Once downloaded go to CPU and set max clock to 1.35 instead of 1.5. it will still be buttery smooth and it will drain the battery less.
Also I am using the Franco Kernel - nightly #53 which in my opinion really helps !
- Try to turn off the WiFi usage as much as possible and you will see a huge difference.
That's all from me guys. By doing all this my battery significantly improved and lasts about a day now.
Anyways if you have better solutionson how you manage your battery and how you extend its life.
- post pictures
- post the apps you use
- post everything !
Thank you !
I use harsh. Whenever I don't game, I lower the max freq to just 810mhz, ondemand, row, mpdecision on (as harsh recommended) and it's still buttery smooth, and of course battery life is incredible, and I also do check the Disable HW Overlays and Force GPU in 2d rendering. And since no kernel controlling apps are needed, my phone feels cleaner too I can't upload battery stats yet as I'm in an area with only edge connectiom and I hate using slow internet connections
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Hi.
I think that autobrigthness it's very hard in all phones. It would be an app Download the brightness.
Bye.
In my testing having wifi connected(like ay home and not going saves more battery, this been texted in several android devices including gs3,note 2 and iOS like 4S and iPads, just giving some info
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Why dont you buy an old nokia since you almost get rid of all the cool stuff this phone offers? Brightness to lowest level...that cracked me up lol
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A couple of things I noticed with this. The first thing I notice is, in two of your screenshots, you appear to have mobile data disabled completely. The second thing I noticed is that your final screenshot shows 24hr 52 min on battery, yet according to your clock, a it should really be a total of 33hr 6 min since unplugged. Your first screenshot shows 88% battery remaining with it already having been unplugged for 7hr 35 min. With that screenshot showing a time of 3:11pm, that would mean your phone was unplugged at 7:36am. If the phone was unplugged at 7:36am, then how is it only showing a total of 24hr 52min at 4:42pm the next day? It should be showing 33hr 6min. That's an odd inconsistency there. All in all, even with the data that is showed in your screenshot, it shows very little use as phone idle and cell standby are both in your top 5. Your screen was your highest drain, yet there isn't anything else there accompanying it. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that all you did was keep the data turned off on your phone, and connect to wifi where available. You turned your screen on, but didn't really do anything with the phone besides having the screen just on. That said, even stock with no changes, a person can get 24 hours on a charge if they're disabling their phone and not using it.
Interesting tips however I have a few points:
Your first tip suggests having WiFi to Never stay connected during sleep. I am part of another Android forum which deals with tablets. We tested this feature as with a tablet, you are likely to leave it for hours on end before using it again. It was excellent if the tablet was not touched, however we noticed that it significantly increased the battery drain if you were regularly switching between sleep and using it.
Agree with the second but don't throw away practicality, use Location settings when they need to be use, not just turn them off and don't use them.
Leave it on auto-brightness dude, why ruin the nice visuals of a fantastic screen by having it so dark you can't see it? I only ever use lowest brightness when its dark or the battery is nearly dead.
No idea about the battery saver.
I definitely disagree with this. If you use 3G permanently, like I do, then turning on WiFi definitely reduces battery drain. I don't turn off data ever, so switching WiFi where possible is quite a useful battery saving technique.
skezza said:
Interesting tips however I have a few points:
Your first tip suggests having WiFi to Never stay connected during sleep. I am part of another Android forum which deals with tablets. We tested this feature as with a tablet, you are likely to leave it for hours on end before using it again. It was excellent if the tablet was not touched, however we noticed that it significantly increased the battery drain if you were regularly switching between sleep and using it.
Agree with the second but don't throw away practicality, use Location settings when they need to be use, not just turn them off and don't use them.
Leave it on auto-brightness dude, why ruin the nice visuals of a fantastic screen by having it so dark you can't see it? I only ever use lowest brightness when its dark or the battery is nearly dead.
No idea about the battery saver.
I definitely disagree with this. If you use 3G permanently, like I do, then turning on WiFi definitely reduces battery drain. I don't turn off data ever, so switching WiFi where possible is quite a useful battery saving technique.
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His solution is to turn off connectivity and functionality on the phone. That defeats the purpose of even having the phone at all.
That said, I think a safe UC of maybe 200MHz can have a difference, but to me, it's all about enjoying the phone and the phone experience. No need to screw with it
Don't do the wifi feature. It will use more battery because it will constantly have to reconnect to the wifi connection every time your phone comes out of sleep mode and that will consume more battery.
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Crisisx1 said:
Don't do the wifi feature. It will use more battery because it will constantly have to reconnect to the wifi connection every time your phone comes out of sleep mode and that will consume more battery.
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Crisis, I pointed that out above...
Someone tell me how I can go all day AND listen to 8 hours of Bluetooth audio and I will be impressed.
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So yes this phone battery unfortunately is not well at all.
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Just curious, why did you buy it then? Personally, I'm leaving everything on because I bought the phone for the looks and usability.
And yes, the phone lasts me all day while using it for everything including emails, conference calls, web browsing etc.
I've set up profiles using the Smart Profiles app to quickly turn things on and off at will - hit CAR and bluetooth/GPS turn on, Wifi turns off. Hit HOME and the reverse happens, etc.
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chrisrozon said:
I've set up profiles using the Smart Profiles app to quickly turn things on and off at will - hit CAR and bluetooth/GPS turn on, Wifi turns off. Hit HOME and the reverse happens, etc.
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Same thing here..but I use scripts When I'm in school and all I need my phone for is some tethering and music, I activate my script that sets the max freq to just 810mhz and I undervolt an extra -50mv from the stock undervoltages of harsh, but when I'm out and away, I enjoy the full 1.5ghz quadcore beast trapped inside my pocket
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Don't get me wrong, it's useful to have a decent battery life, but I really don't see the need to turn the device into an expensive brick. My suggestions, which may or may not be better than the ones in the OP, but they seem to work for me on every Android I've come across without screwing with undervolting etc:
1. Turn Auto-Sync off, or increase the duration between each sync. On my old phone, the phone would use Auto-Sync every hour or so which totally killed the battery over the course of day. I turned it off and would sync it manually (taking all of 15 seconds) on a Friday. Made a huge difference, although simply increasing the time between syncs is just as effective if not more so as you still save a bit of time (might opt for that myself :good
2. Use Inverted Apps on SAMOLED, Don't use Inverted Apps on IPS, white colour uses more battery on SAMOLED, but a lot less on IPS :fingers-crossed:
3. Get yourself a Toggle-based Notification bar, you will remember to switch off your WiFi when walking around in public. To that end, switch your WiFi off unless you are connected to a hotspot, the constant scanning will drain your battery and depending on the interval may take quite a large hit over the course of a day. If you rely on WiFi then maybe increase the scan interval time.
4. Turn off all mobile networking services when in a known signal blackspot. e.g. When work pays for us to go to a hotel on the Welsh border in Cheshire, there is absolutely no signal guaranteed unless you go to the end of the driveway, so I turn off all phone services unless I am there. Your phone will drink your battery very quickly otherwise, guaranteed. The easy solution is to use WhatsApp, switch your phone onto Airplane mode then turn on WiFi and connect to a hotspot (if they have one available, hotels usually do). This is surprisingly low on battery consumption.
So basically, just leave my phone in my pocket and not use it. Okay. Gotcha.
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chancy319 said:
So basically, just leave my phone in my pocket and not use it. Okay. Gotcha.
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My battery life is amazing. I guess it just depends on what you compare it to. I had an evo 3d before, and my 3d would be dead by noon without even turning on the screen. My work blackberry lasts 5 days with fairly heavy email usage.
My N4 though, I use it fairly often for browsing, occasional calls throughout the day, streaming audio, this and that. After 12 hours of use I am still at 60% usually. From 7am to 5:30 (typically when i get out of work) I will be at 70%+
Not sure why people are so bent out of shape about it...
On my 3d if I ran facebook app or any stupid **** like that it would kill my battery like i didnt even have one.
Here's another idea get a job or pay attention in school. That will save battery life as well. I have literally seen people stare at a screen without doing anything with the phone, just because they are so obsessed with it being in their hand
Oh and my Sig does not represent the nexus in the mail
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What about those external battery things? Does anyone know where I can find some decent ones online?

Nexus 5 BETTER Battery Performance

I have been reading the many battery threads where people are posting screenshots and either complaining or raving about their particular Nexus 5’s battery performance. I am shocked that some people are turning off their Wifi, Mobile Data, GPS, Google Now, Sync, and every other feature that makes these phones so useful and still suffering with poor battery performance.
In this thread, instead of complaining or bragging about your battery performance, I thought that this could be used as a place where you all can post how you use your device and what you are doing to save juice and how it works. I’ll go first.
I have had 3 different Nexus 5’s. The first had the speaker/microphone problem and was RMAed. The second was doing great until it overheated and the LEDs at the bottom of the screen exploded. It was RMAed. My current one seems to have a weaker vibrator motor, but I’m going to live with it.
I use my phone instead of my laptop. It seems the only time I use my laptop these days it to flash my phone. I browse the web (Chrome), watch YouTube (YouTube App), read my email (Gmail), shop Amazon (Amazon App), manage my schedule (Calendar App, Pure Calendar Widget), get my news (Flipboard), participate in groups (Google Plus), Chromecast (Netflix, YouTube), participate in these forums (XDA Premium App), and various others. I don’t really play games and don’t tax the CPU to hard.
To save juice, I…
use LUX to manage my screen brightness and usually can function with the screen below 0% unless I’m outside.
use Tasker to turn on/off my wifi, data, gps, sync, and perform a few other tasks, kind-of-like juice defender, but a lot more reliable.
use Better Battery Stats to keep an eye on my apps and de-install apps with bad behavior. I plan on installing Greenify, but have not gotten around to it.
I usually get 12 to 14 hours with 3-4 hours screen time before I plug my phone in at night and have 25%-50% battery left. And, I don't feel I'm depriving myself of any performance.
Some things I have read…
With these new batteries, you never want to let them fully discharge. In fact, keeping them charged is very important, so having a charger at work, or in your car is a good practice.
When your phone gets hot, give it a rest. A hot phone is not working efficiently, and you can damage the battery permanently if it overheats.
It takes a few days for your phone to reach its best performance. When you first get it, it is working in the background to index files and such, which is keeping the phone from reaching deep sleep and is using juice.
After an update, if your phone just doesn’t seem right, it might not be. Do a factory reset and try again. If something didn’t update correctly, there is no telling what could be affected…even your battery performance.
If you have ideas on how to increase battery performance, or discovered apps or settings that drain your battery, please post them here.
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Make sure your apps are configured properly. For example, make sure apps such as Google + are configured to only backup while charging.
In Settings / Locations, set mode to 'Battery Saving' . It passively detects your location which uses no battery. It has been reported that turning off 'location reporting' has no negative effect on Now and Maps. This is a big juice saver.
Kill apps when done using them. Some apps, if left open, will continue draining your juice.
Turn off 'Scanning Always Available' in Wifi /Advanced Settings.
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Greenify is a great app for battery optimization. I have apps on my phone that I don't use often, but seem to keep the phone awake. Greenify them and put the app to bed until you need it.
I've been experimenting with Kernels. After much experimentation, I used Franco Kernel on my GN, so I tried his out and have noticed a battery savings on my screen off time. This is a recommendation for rooted phones because the Franco Updater app on the Play Store does all the heavy lifting.
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My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.
Wow. On stock I easily get 5 hours screen on time with everything on, but only 14ish hours total. With light usage (2 1/2 hrs) close to 27 hours. However I've seen guys posting over 3 days so now I'm playing around with kernels (Franco at the moment) and multirom. I'm using ART but not sure how much difference honestly.
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maxpower7 said:
My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.
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You can also just greenify Google+ and also check if you have the photo backup with it turned to on. I found my app running for half an hour while phone was off and it was due to the backing up of the photos.
Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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rayiskon said:
Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..
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Yea. But mostly you will read people bragging or complaining. There is a lot of good information in those threads, but to find it, you will have to dig. My intention is that this thread will be a place to find, test, and compile solutions for those suffering with poor performance.
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jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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I greenify most apps, keep screen brightness down, GPS Bluetooth always off, data only on when screen on, etc. I got 1 day 15 hours with over 6 hours screen time with my usage. I mostly use my phone for xda, 9gag, some chrome browsing, and a couple other things.
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JamieFL said:
I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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Yup I use that same setting thanks for pointing that out :good:
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IMO, I shouldn't have to do any of this to "save" battery life. It is what it is.
jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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Google+ kills my battery regardless of what my settings are. I literally only used it as an offline photo gallery - there was no syncing being done at all, no auto-awesome, no photo backups or any of that. I don't know how there could possibly be any user error in my setup.
I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.
muyoso said:
I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.
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Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.
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Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.
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Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.
For me at least, I went from about half a day on full battery to almost a day and a half by turning off LTE and Wi-Fi scanning with constant usage. I was conflicted a bit for choosing either LTE or battery life but I'm happier with choosing battery life.
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I added the suggestion about setting location reporting off. Thanks.
I've heard that if your area has poor LTE signal, that can cause a big battery drain. Can anyone confirm that? If this is true, this could be a big contributor to unexplained battery drain.
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Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.
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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.
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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.
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Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.
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Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.
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Gotcha. I mean it's not a huge deal. Google often thinks I'm driving to work/class when I'm not actually doing so and it's more useful to check traffic within the Maps app anyway. I'll try the reporting off for a few days though and see how much of a difference it makes.

P30 pro overnight standby drain!!

Hi,
I have a Canadian p30 pro with videotron i have good signal all the time however my battery drain so much overnight its insane! Close to 20% i tried greenify that didn't help... Any suggestions on how to solve this? Im on Emui 9.1 thank you
shahkam said:
Hi,
I have a Canadian p30 pro with videotron i have good signal all the time however my battery drain so much overnight its insane! Close to 20% i tried greenify that didn't help... Any suggestions on how to solve this? Im on Emui 9.1 thank you
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I use EMUI 9.1's own App Launch panel to prevent apps from running in the background or starting up on their own, I get around 3-4% drain overnight on the P30
Settings > Battery > App Launch > Set the apps to manual and turn off the background / auto start switches for any apps using a lot of battery
20%?!? definitely not normal. Mine like 3-4%
*Detection* said:
I use EMUI 9.1's own App Launch panel to prevent apps from running in the background or starting up on their own, I get around 3-4% drain overnight on the P30
Settings > Battery > App Launch > Set the apps to manual and turn off the background / auto start switches for any apps using a lot of battery
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Will give it a try and see what happens! Thank you!
*Detection* said:
I use EMUI 9.1's own App Launch panel to prevent apps from running in the background or starting up on their own, I get around 3-4% drain overnight on the P30
Settings > Battery > App Launch > Set the apps to manual and turn off the background / auto start switches for any apps using a lot of battery
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Lost 12% overnight it seems to have slightly improved but its still alot!!! Any other suggestions?
shahkam said:
Lost 12% overnight it seems to have slightly improved but its still alot!!! Any other suggestions?
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I leave mine connected to WiFi, it uses way less battery than LTE/4G
Also disabled BT and WiFi location scanning in Location Access > Advanced Settings
Disable any apps you don't use that may be running in the background
And weirdly, my battery life improved best when I set the phone battery settings to "Performance mode" which goes against everything it's meant to do, but that's what happened, worth a try with yours for 24/48 hours to test
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I leave mine connected to WiFi, it uses way less battery than LTE/4G
Also disabled BT and WiFi location scanning in Location Access > Advanced Settings
Disable any apps you don't use that may be running in the background
And weirdly, my battery life improved best when I set the phone battery settings to "Performance mode" which goes against everything it's meant to do, but that's what happened, worth a try with yours for 24/48 hours to test
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Going to give this a try and report back love everything bout this phone but the standby drain is driving me nuts...
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I had S10 plus and I went to sleep it was 99% when I woke up it was around 64% sold it 2 day ago and got the P30 pro , today is my 4th day with it and when I wake up it’s always above 90% leaving bluetooth WiFi all running normal so don’t know what’s happening with you....
Went to bed at 100%, woke up and it was at 99% this morning (11 hours on battery)
shahkam said:
Going to give this a try and report back love everything bout this phone but the standby drain is driving me nuts...
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Try to find the cause in Settings - Battery - Usage and detail of batteryusage. This can sometimes indentify an app causing this.
Sometimes problems are solved by wiping the chache partition. Youtube movie how to wipe cache
_Tinus_ said:
Try to find the cause in Settings - Battery - Usage and detail of batteryusage. This can sometimes indentify an app causing this.
Sometimes problems are solved by wiping the chache partition. Youtube movie how to wipe cache
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So far i have turned off wifi/data when screen goes off and it has helped alot!! I now loose 5-6% overnight instead but wish it was less even then
shahkam said:
So far i have turned off wifi/data when screen goes off and it has helped alot!! I now loose 5-6% overnight instead but wish it was less even then
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Do you have aod (always in disolay) on during the night?
That will drain a few percent also. I personaloy turn off aod between 11pm and 7am.
I was getting quite a bit of drain when I had AOD enabled, so I disabled it and chose to use Double tap to wake instead, however I also debloated through ADB around the same time so could have been a rogue package that I removed..
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I was getting quite a bit of drain when I had AOD enabled, so I disabled it and chose to use Double tap to wake instead, however I also debloated through ADB around the same time so could have been a rogue package that I removed..
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Double tap to wake will use power keeping the screen's digitizer panel active waiting for your taps
I always disable everything to do with keeping any part of the phone awake during sleep, AOD, gestures, taps etc, and with DND enabled until 9am that will kill any notifications waking it up too
Looking at the battery usage overnight, the phone logs only 3-4 very short wake events, one I know is it checking for firmware updates and could be disabled, others will likely be whatsapp/outlook
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Double tap to wake will use power keeping the screen's digitizer panel active waiting for your taps
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Although this is true, it's extremely minimal in my opinion, I go to sleep with my phone on 100% & consistently wake up on 99-98% also I don't have DND on at night so the odd text message or email may come through and wake up the screen
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Although this is true, it's extremely minimal in my opinion, I go to sleep with my phone on 100% & consistently wake up on 99-98% also I don't have DND on at night so the odd text message or email may come through and wake up the screen
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Good to know, yea I managed to get mine down to 1% drain overnight too, as good as their battery management is for that side of things, it has ruined WhatsApp, no matter what I set to exclude it from power saving options I still only get messages when I wake the phone up myself, sometimes only when I actually open WhatsApp, it's gotten so bad now my gf texts me to tell me she's sent me something on WhatsApp, she can even text me while I am using the phone to tell me that and I still never received anything until I open whatsapp
Seems this problem goes back many years with many previous Huawei devices unfortunately which means there is likely never going to be a fix
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Good to know, yea I managed to get mine down to 1% drain overnight too, as good as their battery management is for that side of things, it has ruined WhatsApp, no matter what I set to exclude it from power saving options I still only get messages when I wake the phone up myself, sometimes only when I actually open WhatsApp, it's gotten so bad now my gf texts me to tell me she's sent me something on WhatsApp, she can even text me while I am using the phone to tell me that and I still never received anything until I open whatsapp
Seems this problem goes back many years with many previous Huawei devices unfortunately which means there is likely never going to be a fix
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I removed a lot of Huawei's preinstalled apps to as I don't really use them, I also had the exact same issue with WhatsApp & Twitter, the way I "solved it" strangely enough was disabling them from settings > battery > app launch & restarting my device, then re-enabling them & restarting again, it's been fine ever since could have just been a fluke but it worked so..
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I removed a lot of Huawei's preinstalled apps to as I don't really use them, I also had the exact same issue with WhatsApp & Twitter, the way I "solved it" strangely enough was disabling them from settings > battery > app launch & restarting my device, then re-enabling them & restarting again, it's been fine ever since could have just been a fluke but it worked so..
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Yea I've changed that App Launch setting many times without any luck, I found a post from way back in 2012 I think it was saying there were 3 different settings that needed changing to fix the exact same problem that still happens today, needless to say this will be my last Huawei phone, not difficult to whitelist something as widely used as WhatsApp, I mean normal messages works fine and that's a Google app not a Huawei app so no reason another 3rd party app couldn't do the same if they wanted it to
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Do you have aod (always in disolay) on during the night?
That will drain a few percent also. I personaloy turn off aod between 11pm and 7am.
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I do! But dont think that's the culprit for two nights in a row since i enabled tap to wake ive Lost again 15% overnight or more going to disable again i think thats the main culprit
shahkam said:
I do! But dont think that's the culprit for two nights in a row since i enabled tap to wake ive Lost again 15% overnight or more going to disable again i think thats the main culprit
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As I mentioned above I have double tap to wake enabled and lose 1-2% so it can't be that...

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