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So who is leaving N1 for G2

With the new release of G2 I am sure there are many of n1 users looking to upgrade. Who is in? I don't need a hardware keyboard. I like the slim n1. Prob wait for the real nexus two. I wonder what is the full spec on the new G2? Whatcha think?
Edit: 800mhz say what? You guys sure u want to upgrade.
http://t-mobilescoop.com/HSPADEVICE
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not yet...
I am not going to leave for the g2 untill january, or at least until the gingerbread phones start rolling out, but if there isn't anything spectacular...which there most likely will be...I will be trading the nexus for the g2

800 MHz? No thanks.

Not Me...what would I do with a slide out keyboard

The only thing I'd really like is HSPA+, though my city probably won't get it for a few months. Other than that, I don't see anything overwhelming with the G2. Don't need a hardware keyboard now that I'm used to virtual keyboard and Swype... The Adreno 205 GPU is also something else I'd like. I think I'll just wait until early next year to see what other HSPA+ phones come out.

rickytenzer said:
800 MHz? No thanks.
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It's an underclocked proc from what I hear. Clock speed isn't everything. It's more about how efficient the proc is in one clock cycle. From the sound of things (aka rumors so far), It's going to have some pretty damn sweet features. It's the successor to the first Android device! It can't fail
I'm not necessarily LEAVING the Nexus, but I'm seriously debating picking one of these bad boys up

uansari1 said:
The only thing I'd really like is HSPA+, though my city probably won't get it for a few months. Other than that, I don't see anything overwhelming with the G2. Don't need a hardware keyboard now that I'm used to virtual keyboard and Swype... The Adreno 205 GPU is also something else I'd like. I think I'll just wait until early next year to see what other HSPA+ phones come out.
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How does that GPU compare to the one in Galaxy S?

Nice looking phone, but no. I will need something soon to replace this collectors item though.

As much as i would love to have a g2 to continue the legacy I think I will stick with the sexy nexy
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LevitateJay said:
How does that GPU compare to the one in Galaxy S?
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Adreno 205
Now everyone knows that HTC G2 (also known as HTC Vision, HTC Vanguard, HTC G1 Blaze and HTC Desire Z) will feature Snapdragon MSM7230 chipset which uses Adreno 205.
Adreno 205 features:
Hardware-accelerated SVG and Adobe Flash®
Significant improvements in shader performance over Adreno 200 GPU
Streaming textures that can combine video, camera, SVG and other image surfaces with 3D graphics
Based on the early benchmark results, Adreno 205 is expected to be about four times faster than Adreno 200. Samsung's Hummingbird with PowerVR SGX540 is expected to beat Adreno 205 by a small margin, however. Still, given that nothing touches the performance of SGX540 today (that's right, iPhone 4 is not even close!), this is quite an improvement. Also, this thread proves that
Interesting to note that Adreno has hardware-accelerated support for Adobe Flash. Are we going to see much smoother movies in action on this platform?
Will Snapdragon QSD8x60 and QSD8672 use this GPU as well? Perhaps at a higher clock speed? These are dual-core chipsets running at 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz respectively. Rumored phones such as HTC Glacier (also known as HTC Emerald) and HTC Scorpion are expected to use these chipsets. If we are lucky, we may get to see some of these phones during 2010.

Blueman's List of phones that will get him to leave his current Nexus One:
Another Nexus One
Emerald
Nexus 2
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At 1GHz or higher I would have bought one on release day. Now I plan on waiting for some reviews and opinions after it has been out for a month or two. I really would like a hardware keyboard but the absence of | and \ diminishes its usefulness for me.
The other mitigating factor is the rumored dual core Glacier on the horizon. I am interested in seeing how that one shapes up.

I'm buying the phone release date hopefully. It's only clocked at 800ghz so I'm guessing it'll get overclocked. I'm still keeping my Nexus though just as a collectors item, as a backup and for gingerbread. I'll never sell it. One reason I wanna switch is because the 3g problem on my nexus seems to be getting worse over time. The main reason I want it is the keyboard mainly for gaming and because it's vanilla android. If there is a nexus 2 I will buy it also and when the myTouch HD does come out or project emerald I'll just get my friend to get one and report it stolen and I'll do the same with mine and then switch the extra with him. I'm hoping its available for preorder but does anybody know if you preorder a phone does it charge you right when you preorder it or on your next bill?

Hell i am leaving my n1 for this mang! Well not leaving but getting.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/

Why the hell would I? Its ridiculous to jump from N1 until a dual core android phone with a front facing camera and an 8MP rear camera that is a "Google" phone running stock android. In other words hell no!

Are you serious. No Thanks. If I only had a G1 with TMO, the obvious upgrade would be G2. But Nexus One to G2 = Downgrade. It's an ok phone though.

A) Just to play devil's advocate, people are saying that the 800 MHz MSM7x30 Scorpion chip actually runs FASTER than a 1 GHz Snapdragon. Read the comments here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/confirmed-t-mobile-g2-will-have-android-2-2-flash-and-800mhz-c/
B) It'd be tempting but nah, not for me. I'll wait for the next resolution bump (past 800 x 480). Preferably higher than the retina display

sl8125 said:
Hell i am leaving my n1 for this mang! Well not leaving but getting.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
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The Tab, looks really nice, it has everything i could possibly want in a tablet, however I was planning on waiting for the Tegra2 line of Android Tablets. Hopefully they will run just as flawless as the Tab.

Im sorry but 1ghz ftw!

If it comes with HDMI I might get one. It's hard with T-Mobile because they rarely get really nice phones like this so I may get it regardless.

IS not that popular based on number of posts?

I busted up my Legend and I got a Nexus S as a replacement. This I returned because I didn't like it much, mostly because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. (Too plasticy)
Now I'm in the market for a new Android phone and the IS is a potential new phone. But purely based on the number of posts here and the activity level in these posts, the IS is NOT a popular phone. What's up?

The two major reasons I think are:
This thing is very very new and it's only available in Europe at the moment.
If it's not popular, so what. Do you like it? If you don't, then don't buy it.
You have a valid point though if you buy a popular device, there will almost certain be lots of developing for it.
On the other hand this thing looks nice and techy, so I think/hope developers will like this thing.
Meh, the only major reason for me not to buy it was the locked bootloader, but it'll get cracked somehow.
Track and traced my order and the driver is on the way! Can't wait for that doorbell to ring

This thread is much, much more quiet
Desire S
I really think this thing is just to fresh out of the oven

One reason could be that the Desire S haven't come out for sale yet whereas the Inc S have been out for almost a month now.
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My bad... I feel stupid

Right now the phone is still pretty new and it's only being sold overseas. This phone will take off more once it lands on Verizon in the states. Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.

The NAM 3G version is going to launch on Virgin Mobile Canada sometime in the next month or two. Note that the Verizon version would be CDMA and should probably get a distinct subforum unto itself.
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I'm getting the Indridible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
"Plus the Incredible S lacks any unique differentiating features. You know, something like dedicated gaming keys (the XPERIA Play), or a Super AMOLED screen that can seal a deal by itself.
All that coupled with a high asking price like this makes the Incredible S a device that’s pretty hard to recommend. Of course, if your carrier offers it at a bargain price you may disregard this argument and get the handset – the solid smartphone experience is guaranteed.
Yet if you are looking for a SIM-free device and are paying full price, we feel there are better alternatives out there."
This is as true as it is sad....
Nexus S : Don't like the contruction, too much plastic, it's too "slippery" in the hands. My MAIN gripe is that they've moved the back button farthest away and it's the button you use the most.
Optimus 2X : Sorry, this is an ugly UGLY phone.The back looks like it something from 1994.
Xperia Arc : Too big, lovely phone.
Desire HD : Too big

NardVa said:
Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
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I think this is an important point. Any one who has a higher end existing phone will be more likely to go for the dual cores. From what I've seen there isn't a big difference between the Desire and Incredible S prices compared to the new LG dual core phone, so who is going to buy a single core phone if that's the case? I would be happy with an Incredible or Desire S, but at a lower price than is currently being asked for... Let the prices start dropping now please.... I want a new cheap phone!

Sebastian768 said:
I'm getting the Incredible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
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I had a T Mobile band Nexus One and didn't have any intentions of getting a new phone unless it was a major upgrade over the Nexus One. (Probably would have made the Pyramid or T Mobile GX2 my next phone this summer) Unfortunately I broke my Nexus One so the Incredible S was the best option for me at the moment. I still want a dual core phone but instead of making the jump this summer I'll probably make the jump early next year.

Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?

Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.

I cannot wait for this phone.
I used to have an HTC Touch GSM and was the best phone i've ever had,
I'm waiting for it to come to Bell with NAM 3G

kopkiwi said:
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.

DaanJordaan said:
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
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You're right. There isn't a big need for dual core right now. The only real advantage I see to having dual core now is for the gaming aspect, but the high end game market is still in the early stages. As far everyday things like web, email, face book, you tube, Pandora, etc a single core phone does just fine.

NardVa said:
Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
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So what would you recommend?

kopkiwi said:
So what would you recommend?
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If you have to get a phone now the Incredible S would be a good choice. I had a Nexus One, which is similar to the Desire, and went to an Incredible S. I was looking at the Nexus S also, but I prefer the build quality of HTC phones over the Samsung phones. Just a personal preference.

Vivid... or a next-gen 2012 phone?

Since I have to stick with my choice for the next 2years. I want some "promise" that it will last until then...
Vivid, is still using S3, a 2011's technology which probably become "too old" already by the end of 2012.
Quad-core isnt necessary for me, a powerful dual-core like "Krait" is enough, 4.5" screen and SD slot is a must. I don't care much about battery life, since I always close to the power sources, but having more battery as reserve is better.
Is there any chance for Vivid after upgraded to ICS to boost itself? and how much is it?
Could it compete with HTC one X, XL, Huawei Ascend D quad, D1...?
These devices will ship within 2-3months and if it cost not more than 600$, i would grab one.
so, the question is...
Can Vivid still compete with other next-gen phone (One X,S, Huawei D1, Dquad....) or I should wait for those next-gen phone?

If in the states and on at&t,htc one...not your cup of tea,no sdcard,screen is big enough,internal battery(1800mAh) I really dont see the need to upgrade if not needed,vivid is a solid device with imo more options,sdcard slot,marginal screen difference(.2 dif) a1.5 processor...ics should vamp up the vivid considerably after all the bloatware,ciq and other loggers are removed oh and hopefully the update doesnt relock the bootloader...not sure if it could but that would just blow chunks if it does....just my opinion....but ultimately its your money and your decision
beam408 said:
Since I have to stick with my choice for the next 2years. I want some "promise" that it will last until then...
Vivid, is still using S3, a 2011's technology which probably become "too old" already by the end of 2012.
Quad-core isnt necessary for me, a powerful dual-core like "Krait" is enough, 4.5" screen and SD slot is a must. I don't care much about battery life, since I always close to the power sources, but having more battery as reserve is better.
Is there any chance for Vivid after upgraded to ICS to boost itself? and how much is it?
Could it compete with HTC one X, XL, Huawei Ascend D quad, D1...?
These devices will ship within 2-3months and if it cost not more than 600$, i would grab one.
so, the question is...
Can Vivid still compete with other next-gen phone (One X,S, Huawei D1, Dquad....) or I should wait for those next-gen phone?
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I think the vivid could still compete with some of those newer phones if it keeps being supported. The HTC One line isn't going to have any expandable memory so thats one advantage the vivid has over those for what you need. Not to sure about the Huawei phones. I think this is their first time trying to push a more high end phone so might wanna wait till they come out and get a chance to hear some feedback on them. They do look pretty decent though.

forgot to mention that i'm outside US and still using blessed Milestone1.
beside of extremely lacking of memory storage, it's still very useful with lastest custom rom .

Wild Child said:
If in the states and on at&t,htc one...not your cup of tea,no sdcard,screen is big enough,internal battery(1800mAh) I really dont see the need to upgrade if not needed,vivid is a solid device with imo more options,sdcard slot,marginal screen difference(.2 dif) a1.5 processor...ics should vamp up the vivid considerably after all the bloatware,ciq and other loggers are removed oh and hopefully the update doesnt relock the bootloader...not sure if it could but that would just blow chunks if it does....just my opinion....but ultimately its your money and your decision
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I was honestly thinking about getting the one X but different processor for the AT&T version means that we won't be able to use the International ROMs, correct? There are great devs here in the USA, quoted company included , but that was one thing I really loved about having the Inspire. The development section for the DHD was huge and still is actually. I'm fairly certain I'm going to stick with the Vivid for awhile, unless my company lets me upgrade early again, like I did to get the Vivid.

wipes brown spot off psides nose...lol...we wont know till we get the devices on whats able to be used etc....
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I was honestly thinking about getting the one X but different processor for the AT&T version means that we won't be able to use the International ROMs, correct? There are great devs here in the USA, quoted company included , but that was one thing I really loved about having the Inspire. The development section for the DHD was huge and still is actually. I'm fairly certain I'm going to stick with the Vivid for awhile, unless my company lets me upgrade early again, like I did to get the Vivid.
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wipes brown spot off psides nose...lol...we wont know till we get the devices on whats able to be used etc....
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LOL, just calling it like I see it.
Gotcha. I just assumed the different CPUs would kill any chance of cross development on the 2 devices. I'll probably still check to see if I can upgrade or not. My company has strange policies on upgrading. I got the Captivate in Aug. 2010, upgraded to the Inspire in Feb. 2011, and was able to upgrade again to the Vivid on launch weekend. But some people have to wait a full 18 months or 2 years. I'm not complaining, I just don't understand it.

beam408 said:
forgot to mention that i'm outside US and still using blessed Milestone1.
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wipes brown spot off psides nose...lol...we wont know till we get the devices on whats able to be used etc....
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hahahah, give the guy a break, the WCX Illuminati series does ridiculously quick bug fixes and excellent performance, the praise is well deserved

In terms of software, I don't see any reason not to keep using Vivid for awhile longer. The hardware is also powerful enough to handle most anything for the immediate future.
The top of the line phones aren't going to be that much of an upgrade at the moment, especially considering almost no mobile software is optimized for quad-core processors.
Until optimized software is released, you may actually see a performance hit on some of these upcoming quad-core phones, and there's also the power consumption issue if you're running demanding apps.

I'm looking forward to HTC one It looks so cool.

Phone's been out almost 5 months and I'm noy bored yet. ICS coming in about a month, so it shoud be good for another 6 months, right on time for the next upgrade on my second line. By then shoud have some quadcore jelly bean, 2500mah, >4.5" goodness...
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[Q] Galaxy Nexus or HTC One X for upgrade?

The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?

XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?
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You never get 100$ for a used nexus one. More like 40~50$. They go new for around 100$

Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.

Jack_R1 said:
Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.
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Thanks for that. So would you choose the One XL over the Galaxy Nexus?

I might not be a good example. After a year with Nexus One, mostly running Enomther's ROM (somewhere between AOSP and CM), and trying some CM7, I grew really fond of Sense, especially after using Sense 3 for a while (running Sense 3.5 on my MT4G now). Stock Android has so many stupid quirks and limitations that I can't stand it. Plus, I completely dislike stock ICS look, it's awful IMHO, and I didn't particularly like Gingerbread either, Froyo was much closer to my taste - and Sense reminds me of it. So I would definitely take a phone that can run Sense ROMs over a phone that can't, but as you can see, it's my subjective opinion.
There is one more lesson I learned from Nexus One: user base counts. With Galaxy Nexus, all you get is a new OS 1-2 months ahead, and relatively small user base - while most likely having devs, but also more likely to jump to another, newer phone quite fast. On the other hand, on One X for 1-2 months delay in OS update you'll get more variants - in addition to stock Sense there will be AOSP, CM and MIUI variants like for any other phone, and most of all - you'll probably get A LOT more users, which eventually equals much better support community. Look at Nexus One development versus the good old Desire. If I'd pick Desire back then - I'd still be using it now.

Seems to me the choice is clear.....lol
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Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.

Theshawty said:
Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.
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Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.

This one is for dual core Snapdragon S4, I believe.

I Am Marino said:
Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Because Tegra3 does not play nicely with LTE.
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XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...wtSlotClick=1-007D1Y!903920-1-1&rel=nofollow#
SGS2, $10 if you buy it today, with two year contract. $100 otherwise... Your plan seems silly.

I Am Marino said:
Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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ray3andrei said:
No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.

Jack_R1 said:
That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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Jack_R1 said:
That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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I also saw pics of a galaxy nexus cooked and all that kitchen stuff i saw PICS only that doesnt prove anything, i own a transformer prime and its really good but it tends to lag when it switches from companion core to the actual cores, i saw benchmarks where the ram in the one x (s4) completely crushes the ram in the prime which is almost impossible because the ram in the prime runs at twice the clock speed. But it is single channel compared to dual channel in the s4 on paper the tegra 3 is faster.. by a lot ...
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ray3andrei said:
Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
P.S. It's funny that you assumed that I "didn't hold the device in my hands".

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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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Haha....i didnt say a9 did I, you seem to be really pissed dude... show me a vid where the one x gets benchmarked.. and im not a fanboy.. in fact i like my nexus more than my prime..
On paper the tegra 3 is better and even if it uses arm a15mp core it still wouldn't match sorry im done here
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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If i look at thr quadrant benchmark it gets 8500, on my prime i get 11000.. so the t3 is faster.. sorry
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I would choose the nexus only because of the screen, stock ics, and 1st to get updates, anything else go for the one x regardless of the version you get
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[Q] Is is too late to switch to the Nexus 6?

So, I am on Sprint and currently have the Note 3 which I love but has given me nothing but problems. Is it too late at this point to switch to the Nexus 6? Should I hold out another month or two since all the new phones will be coming out in Feb-April? I absolutely love getting a new phone but I hate how fast they move. The Nexus 6 just came out and in 2 months or so, it will already be outdated. Just drives me nuts. So, whats your opinions? Should I suck it up and hold out, or just upgrade now?

Just buy one, this will happen with every phone release. Something better is always around the corner

I wouldn't say the N6 will be outdated.... I would say everything else will catch up to it... What do you think is coming out in the future? The Note 4 just came out......
They aren't even rolling out Lollipop to other devices anytime soon so it still always has that edge as well....
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I just joined the Nexus world on Friday with a Nexus 6, I have to say regardless of what others might say I love this phone. Given that Nexus 4 is receiving all the updates, I would say by the time your contract is up the Nexus 6 will still actually be current... just my 2 cents... btw if you have the drop you phone syndrome (like me) I would suggest investing in a decent case. My son in law dropped his Iphone6 2 days after getting it.... then put a case on....

I'm just worried. There's a couple small things missing in the nexus that i want in my next phone and i really want the snapdragon 810 when that comes out. I really wanted the Xperia Z3 but that didn't make it to sprint and I've been thinking the Galaxy S6 or the Xperia Z4 if it makes it to Sprint. The screen size and resolution of the nexus 6 with Qi Charging are what really keep me coming back to considering it. No sdcard has me really worried. I have 32GB internal now and 32 sdcard and I've had to delete stuff.
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^ both valid points.
A phone announced in April doesn't make its way out until a month (if not more) later and by then it's already halfway to the next nexus announcement.

If you are waiting on the 810, you might want to check today's news as it looks like it will be delayed... in Google news search snapdragon 810... 64 gb and you have to delete stuff?? dude what you got on there? Sounds like you need a phone with 128 gb capacity..... I generally keep stuff up on dropbox or google drive if it is not used often....

Its never too late, this phone will have a long life. Even the Nexus 4 still have active development.
Snapdragon 810... doesn't really matter, our hardware is already good as it is. I care more about development over hardware. You have to keep in mind that you can have the best of the best when it comes to hardware specification but if the software is not well optimized, then your hardware isn't going to do anything as it'll consume more processing power, RAM, etc.

Gage_Hero said:
If you are waiting on the 810, you might want to check today's news as it looks like it will be delayed... in Google news search snapdragon 810... 64 gb and you have to delete stuff?? dude what you got on there? Sounds like you need a phone with 128 gb capacity..... I generally keep stuff up on dropbox or google drive if it is not used often....
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What are you talking about LG Flex2 already is out with 810.
You will see a lot of new phones with 810 at MWC.
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MrKaon said:
What are you talking about LG Flex2 already is out with 810.
You will see a lot of new phones with 810 at MWC.
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The phone isn't released or sold, it was announced with a pre-release 810 chip onboard with a prototype.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/01/133_171341.html its rumored that the Snapdragon 810 is having issues. If it has those issues, it will delay the phone because Qualcomm will need to fix the issues before mass producing a defective chip.

zephiK said:
The phone isn't released or sold, it was announced with a pre-release 810 chip onboard with a prototype.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/01/133_171341.html its rumored that the Snapdragon 810 is having issues. If it has those issues, it will delay the phone because Qualcomm will need to fix the issues before mass producing a defective chip.
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There is no delay what so ever regarding 810 as been said by Qualcomm.
Also there is a Note 4 with 810 for Korean market only, info.
Btw LG Flex2 is not a prototype, it is real deal. Will be launched next month in Vodafone UK exclusively for 6 weeks, also LG taking pre orders at Amazon Germany.
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The note 4 in Korea was not a snapdragon 810. Same as in all the others.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8805/samsung-launches-the-galaxy-note-4-ltea

zephiK said:
The phone isn't released or sold, it was announced with a pre-release 810 chip onboard with a prototype.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/01/133_171341.html its rumored that the Snapdragon 810 is having issues. If it has those issues, it will delay the phone because Qualcomm will need to fix the issues before mass producing a defective chip.
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HAHAHA LOL.
Did you read that article?
A hilarious line reads as "and its clock rate, an index representing a processor's performance, was estimated to be lower than its predecessor, the Snapdragon 805".
*** clock rate is NOT an "index representing a processor's performance". A clock rate is a clock rate is a clock rate. Nothing more. And yes, we ALL KNOW that the A57 cores have a lower clock rate than current 32bit ARM chips... but no matter, because they do WAY MORE WORK PER CYCLE.
Another bit of comedy: "According to the mobile chipset benchmark Geekbench, the Snapdragon 810 had a serious "throttling" problem that forcibly limits the graphic processing performance when it overheats."
*** so I suppose they would rather that it MELTS when it overheats, rather than throttling back to safety? Note that this only means that those people RAN Geekbench, not that anyone technically associated with Geekbench software made any comment... this is a highly misleading statement. Are they even aware that PHONES do NOT have active cooling (a fan)? They aren't designed or intended to run at a high rate for hours on end. They are intended to work for short bursts intermittently. If they become heat soaked, they need time to cool off. They ALWAYS benchmark better when you put them in the freezer.
Just incredible what kind of bogus article that is....
*** which isn't to say that the chip won't have some first run issues. I'm currently running a first generation Qualcomm Krait. It happens to be loaded with problems. We get around most of them, but the killer awesome feature they added to these cores... which is supposed to let them track and control the voltage supply automatically rather than being table driven... is a bit hit or miss. If the chip cranks up too quickly, it doesn't compensate correctly and undervolts, triggering a random reboot. We've managed to get it in line so it happens... "rarely", but it still does happen. And so, I'm willing to let the first run or two of the Qualcomm 810's go through before jumping onto it. The current "soon to be available" lg gflex2 phone also really doesn't interest me because I just know that I (or someone else) would end up sitting on it and snapping it in half. I'm thinking that if the next Nexus will run something like that, I may just go for that.

cj.lyon21 said:
So, I am on Sprint and currently have the Note 3 which I love but has given me nothing but problems. Is it too late at this point to switch to the Nexus 6? Should I hold out another month or two since all the new phones will be coming out in Feb-April? I absolutely love getting a new phone but I hate how fast they move. The Nexus 6 just came out and in 2 months or so, it will already be outdated. Just drives me nuts. So, whats your opinions? Should I suck it up and hold out, or just upgrade now?
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Please hold out for the new phones. Snapdragon 810 is going to be epic. Nexus 6 is very good but if you need 64 bit 810 and MicroSD support, then wait for Z4 / Z4 Ultra. That means you would have to make do with Note 3 for the next 3-4 months minimum.
If you can survive with Note 3, then, wait for 3-4 months, else, buy Nexus 6