[Q] Variant compatibility? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I am on the Bell Network in Canada and my question really boils down to how many bands does a phone need to connect to a network. I can buy the unlocked EU variant and it has LTE 800/1800/2600 while bell uses 1700/2100/2600. Since both have 2600MHz can I get LTE conectivity on Bell from the international Variant?

When a network operator says it supports band
800/1800/2600
it only means they have cell towers that can emit those frequency bands. Depending on the network operator infrastructure. If you only have 2600 band supported it could either mean you'll get LTE coverage anywhere or it could also mean only a number of cell towers can support it which would mean you'll get LTE on some areas and other areas won't.

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Lost Reception+Data Connection on Rogers Network

Hey guys
I got XZ C6603 today from handtec. I activated brand new LTE simcard at rogers store and set up lte apn.
Soon as I did that data connection rapidly changing from h+ to 3g for a while then drop the data connection and phone reception as well.
Seems like lot of ppl here in Canada having trouble getting LTE connection but I am having hard time getting my phone reception and H+ connection.
I'm not sure either XZ is defect or this phone is simply wont work with Rogers.
Any solutions?? or should I just return the phone back to handtec?
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
ssj_jaypee said:
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
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Now I have solid reception + HSPA+ Thanks! :good:
Hope we can use LTE soon though
ssj_jaypee said:
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
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HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
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You are wrong,
Rogers does support LTE 2600
I would not use a phone on Rogers that can't get 1900Mhz but ... You should be able to use 2600 LTE. Have you entered the LTE APN ?
Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
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HSPA+ works fine where I am on my 6603.
People have been able to get LTE on theirs as well, depending on the region.
EG8196 said:
You are wrong,
Rogers does support LTE 2600
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My LTE worked for an hour the other. I've read the 2600 band is a higher speed band, but it has weaker penetration and more sensitive.
Im beginning to think that you need both 2100 and 2600 bands for LTE to properly work in Canada since Rogers have both deployed simultaneously. Maybe Rogers need to improve their 2600 deployement in order for the XZ to work.
arlaken said:
My LTE worked for an hour the other. I've read the 2600 band is a higher speed band, but it has weaker penetration and more sensitive.
Im beginning to think that you need both 2100 and 2600 bands for LTE to properly work in Canada since Rogers have both deployed simultaneously. Maybe Rogers need to improve their 2600 deployement in order for the XZ to work.
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You need band 4 and band 10. Each frequency is used for different reasons (upstream/downstream). Just having 2,600 Mhz won't do anything. It's already been confirmed by multiple users that LTE doesn't work in North America (AT&T, Rogers, etc.)
That's why the C6603 wasn't released in North America.
The leaked C6606 model should support it, as well as the ZL. (http://playstation.com/psm/certified.html)
LTE on Rogers explained: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38864511#post38864511
Then how does the optimus g on rogers use lte 2600? The optimus g 2600 on rogers only have lte band 700/2600 according to rogers website. This is the first carrier phone to use the 2600 network I believe
ccloudc said:
Then how does the optimus g on rogers use lte 2600? The optimus g 2600 on rogers only have lte band 700/2600 according to rogers website. This is the first carrier phone to use the 2600 network I believe
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Because it uses 2,600 Mhz (band 7) for the downlink and 1,700 Mhz (band 4) for the uplink (even though it doesn't list it in the specs).
(Going into the Service Menu on the Optimus G shows off its full band support.)
Without the appropriate uplink AND downlink support, LTE will not work.
Rogers has LTE deployed on bands 4, 7, and 10.
The C6603 supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20.
BluechipJ said:
Because it uses 2,600 Mhz (band 7) for the downlink and 1,700 Mhz (band 4) for the uplink (even though it doesn't list it in the specs).
(Going into the Service Menu on the Optimus G shows off its full band support.)
Without the appropriate uplink AND downlink support, LTE will not work.
Rogers has LTE deployed on bands 4, 7, and 10.
The C6603 supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20.
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Hi, can you tell me how to get the lte band menu?
Regards

Bell Mobility HTC One - Flash to support Wind Mobile AWS?

I've searched regarding these two Canadian Operators and found nothing. I've already processed and entered my SIM unlock code successfully, yet with my Wind Mobile SIM card inserted I currently see "No signal Limited Service" on the lock screen and cannot make any voice calls, send SMS nor data.
It seems I'm not the only one confused and too many on craigslist/kijiji making statements in ads that their bnib or used HTC One's from Telus Mobility or Bell Mobility (their networks co-mingled and exist across Canada; Telus owns networks in West, Bell in the East) claiming to work on Wind Mobility.
Wind Mobility uses the following networks: The WIND Mobile network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100.
Wind themselves do NOT support/have an LTE network as of yet.
HTC One Official Specifications:
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSDPA 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
^ Am I mis-understanding that a) AWS = 1700Mhz being equal in the "Canada/Latin America" and that b) 2100Mhz is AWS? Prior to these smaller entrants, 2100Mhz was only used by Rogers Wireless, but I figure 2100Mhz is AWS??
Basically I'm praying that my Bell Mobility HTC One can be somehow (and easily) flashed to support the "1700Mhz AWS and 2100Mhz AWS" network bands that I require to use my phone line on Wind Mobile. Is this possible?
Anyone ????

[Q] HTC One 801N Red band compatibility

Hi everyone !
I came here because I'm about to buy an HTC One 801N Red (which I suppose is imported from the UK) but I'am unsure of its compatibility with Canadia carriers, in particular mine (Fido).
Fido's network uses 850/1900 Mhz for GSM, UMTS, HSPA & HSPA+ and 2100/2600 Mhz for LTE. The phone is advertised on Amazon as supporting 850/900/2100 Mhz for 2G & 3G HSDPA and 800/1800/2600 Mhz for 4G LTE.
Does supporting only one band for each service (850 for 2G/3G and 2600 for LTE) enough? Will it causes problem with using the data network?
Thank you!
check out this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
sent from my s-off 801n M7_UL
So, from this post, I understand it seems to be compatible. My question was about how many bands it needs to support in order to work effectively. Is one band enough, or should it support both (850/1900) in order to work best?
Thank you anyway.
It depends on your carrier's network coverage. They may have predominantly 850mhz with 1900mhz towers in remote/legacy areas, or the other way around, or a mix.
So you could be buying a phone that works everywhere you go, or not at all.

Switch to US network?

Been looking at the radio specs on this ( compared to HTC One) and it seems the GSM/UTS and LTE bands/frequency are all the same except for one of the LTE. The 800Mhz uses band 20 while the HTC One uses band 18. The 1800Mhz and 2600Mhz match.
Would this preclude it from working on Sprint?
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Please see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-p7/help/verions-p7-t2838058
It shows the different versions of the P7 for use in different countries.
I don't think it will work at all on Sprint, as Sprint is a CDMA network.
Also -- again -- My understanding -- is that the Chinese CDMA (TD-SCDMA) is an entirely and completely different thing (different frequencies, different protocols) than the US Sprint/Verizon CDMA. The P7-L00 would not have 4G at all (and spotty or no 3G) in the US.
For the P7-L10 ("International Version") it would work as follows:
It will work as a basic 2G phone on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US.
It should work on AT&T or T-Mobile 3G in some areas, but since it is only quad band - (No 850MHz band - Not penta band) it may not work in all areas.
4G LTE will not work on AT&T or T-Mobile, or on any provider I know of in the US.
AT&T uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
T-Mobile uses (apparently) only Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
The P7-L10 uses LTE: B1/B3/B7/B8/B20
No overlap means no 4G at all.
There is supposed to be a P7-L16 international version that may have different 3G/4G bands, but apparently it has not shipped yet, or at least I do not know where to buy one.
Note, however that it does have WiFi, so as long as you do not mind paying a premium for 4G LTE that will not work at all, you'll have plenty of data connectivity as long as you have WiFi available.
Hope that this helps. This is what I have found in my research, as I would really like to buy one of these phones, but as mentioned, I cannot see paying the price these phones sell for, and then have no 4G at all.
Those in the know, or who have one in the US, please comment/correct.

Cricket Wireless and Moto X Dev Edition.

The description says the phone uses the following bands:
3G UMTS bands: 850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands:700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2),
I'm looking to use this phone with Cricket, or other similar carriers such as MetroPCS in Jacksonville, Florida.
Before I purchase I can't seem to determine if this phone is compatible with those carriers and will achieve LTE/4G /3G reception. It's important that mostly 4G/LTE is possible as I get signal drops in my area without those bands.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
Google says yes.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/402295-moto-x-cricket-wireless.html

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