Hello everyone,
Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one.
I've settled on the Nexus range because I love stock Android and have found the hardware to be acceptable.
For my next foray into a 2013 phone I'm thinking of getting the HTC One and pairing this with Cyanogenmod, when it becomes available.
This to me would be the best physical hardware, in both appearance and materials of any Android device, and software.
Something akin to this!
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So the reason for this thread is to gain input from those who have used both Stock and Cyanogenmod.
Am I going to be satisfied with the move?
Visually things are the same? The use the same assets?
What problems could arise? What should I be aware of when compared with Stock?
Any other thoughts or opinions you may have. Please keep it in-line with the HTC One and Cyanogenmod.
Many thanks.
Off-topic but when I look at that Black picture I find it sooo cool.
CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
Re: blingfeed annoying
Is it worth it. I love it but even on the one x was frustrating due to not being able to use the camera to it's full potential.it would fly on here but you'd lose a lot on this device. Which would be a shame
(No doubt if be trying it still if it was here though and get frustrated again lol)
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mr.suff said:
Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one
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I had the last 'perfect one' - the legendary HTC HD2 - since it came out.
I dropped the first one I owned and almost sold the insurance replacement to buy a different phone.
I was tempted many times by the hypegasm of new fangled phones but, really, what were they adding that the venerable HD2 couldn't already do? Nothing really.
Glad I made the choices I did.
Wait and see, all these answers can be answered by yourself ...
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
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By default, it is basically identical, with a few improvements (T9 dialing).
However, there are many options to customise it - adding different shortcuts to the lockscreen ring (up to five, I think), quick-toggles in the notification shade, "quiet hours" (a setting which silences your phone during certain times of the week)..
The list is exhaustive.
CyanogenMod is much better than stock, imo, notification toggles are much better (and less complicated) than the quick-settings panel.
i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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im hearing the n5 will be announced at google io.
What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
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What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
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Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
AW: HTC One and Cyanogenmod
NiCk.JaY said:
Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
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It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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I didn't read the question properly lol. Mate if your a fan of pure android stick with the nexus.I love both so I'm okay. But pure...there's a lot to be said for how quick everything runs. Though I wouldn't pass on the one.
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Thing is, stock rom (Sense) tend to have better battery life than CM10. Stock roms (Sense) are more optimised for the system. I've noticed this since my battery was a lot less when I had the S2, S3, HTC One X etc using CM10.
I also feel this may get a quicker/less buggy release than the S4 with exynos 5. I imagine samsung wont release any info for the exynos 5 like they havent for the exynos 4. The S600 variants will probably be fine but that may give the One an advantage.
it makes no sense to buy a HTC One or any phone for that matter to just put stock android on it.. you lose half the features the phone came with (even if their are gimmick or not)
You should just buy a Nexus device.. because in the end thats all you trying to get..
You are buying the HTC One for design.. not for its features..
The processors wouldn't be any difference in notice.. unless you plan on running HD 1080P videos every second of the day and playing games like "Dead trigger, Real Racing etc every day"
May-C said:
It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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That was just to explain the basics of cm to him
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The main difference between stock android and cyanogenmod are featured n options. There are a lot more settings, n tweaks and ways to persoalize it the way you want. There are also variations of CM like aokp, paranoidandroid,etc which add even more options and customizations. Also there will be sense roms with things added/removed l, etc that you may like. The great thing about Roms is that you can change the whole look ans feel of your phone within minutes. Best thing for you to do is go over to like the HTC EVO 4g LTE forum or the HTC ONE X forum and look thru the android and original android development sections at all the toms and get an idea what is out there. Any aosp rom would be cm like stock android and any sense is just that tweaked stock sense.
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After your time with sensation and sense, did anyone try the N9? How does meego feel?
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I was one of those people waiting for Meego 2 years ago. Eventually I got tired of waiting and moved on to Android. Meego is a great concept with so much potentials, but its 2 years late into the game. Nokia already picked Windows Phone as the primary OS for their devices, who knows how much support will Meego get from Nokia. Meego will suffer the same faith as Maemo on the N900. Great community support, but no developer supports. If you really like the hardware design of the N9, the Nokia Lumia 800 is the closest thing you get, but with windows running on it. Meego is just too little too late...
I had an N900 that I thought I loved, thanks to it's power. However, one of the big issues with it for me was the laggy UI and non-GPU accelerated aspect of it. Android isn't GPU accelerated until 4.0, but it usually feels butter smooth anyway (on the right phones). The N900's UI was like 10 to 15 FPS max. Laggy and slow as hell. That really, really bothered me.
Then, Nokia said "Eff you guys, no more support from us". And that was the last Nokia I ever bought; the end.
I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
xenios said:
I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Yeah, me too. CE edition is slow as hell and really has nothing whatsoever to do with the N9. Nitdroid was far more usable (I used to dual boot so I would get to know Android. btw N900 had GB way before some other high end phones of it's time).
In a strange mix of fortunes the N9 got Harmattan which was going to be Nokia's next step to Maemo and N900 got MeeGo (which was the bastard child of Moblin and Maemo).
Only thing they have in common is compatible apps.
This is getting odd I also had N900 prior Sensation. Is this a coincidence ?
As others said we were betrayed by Nokia. I'll admit I was a Nokia fanboy for a long time (too long maybe) but when I leared we're not getting anything that we were promised and our Ovi Store will be in BETA forever I decided to move to Android
ahh but N900 was a fun device, a true mobile computer in phone formfactor and fantastic community support ( MohammadAG and others are doing fantastic work)
Yeah i know what it means to be a ex-nokia lover, for me the N8x series got.my heart (N80,N82,N86) mainly because of camera.. did u ever use the N900 for wifi cracking?
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My favorites were the Nokia 6300b (not a smartphone), the N79, the N900, and although I never owned one, I really wanted an N96. I had two or three other Nokias, but they're not worth mentioning.
You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
Meego is not a bad system but Nokia N9 is last device with Meego so the support will die soon...That's why i don't recommend
Nokia N9 with MeeGo is too bad
Skv012a said:
You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
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The N9 is actually snappier.
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The N9 is actually snappier.
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Yep, all true. I had all the phones in my sig, and actually N9 is the most amazing for a day to day use. I am completely happy with it.
Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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Just picked up a 64 Black myself.
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SEEEXY
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bmstrong said:
Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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Xxul said:
SEEEXY
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
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What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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I almost wanted to trade my sensation for a 64gb N9, but then i found this theme ^^
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I couldnt be more happy ^^
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Very nice! But you are missing the hardware. The best looking device I have ever owned.
Cyanogen goes from from Android mod to legit startup with $7M from Benchmark
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/18/c...-mod-to-legit-startup-with-7m-from-benchmark/
Hopefully we see good things in the foreseeable future, gotta love what CM has done for all of us :thumbup:
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This guy is a legend.
Good luck to Steve... I would be willing to at least try out a Cyanogen OS phone.
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Even though I do not use CM.
I wish them the BEST!!!
I hope they become 2nd. Not 3rd
Because....
"Apples are meant for eating...period."
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Cyanogenmod was the first rom i ever flashed. Seeing it grow up kinda brings a tear to my eye :crying: . Best of luck Steve im sure it will be popular!
Does anyone else realize how nuts this is? I mean, from a back door, unlicensed, hackers, weekend project to a full fledged entity that directly competes against big name software. All for free. This is amazing and can only get better congrats to them and the whole android hacker community!
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Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
Here is the full blog by the guy himself.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter
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sauprankul said:
Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
I thought this was funny
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/Y1NNyPMMVfN
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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Although I don't typically use it as a stand-alone ROM, most of the ROMs I build and like best are based in CM. They have a great team and embody everything about open-source that users, devs and aspiring devs want to emulate. I think it's high time they receive the recognition they deserve and a top spot in the Android and mobile OS forum. Best of luck, guys!
Started from the bottom now he here! Congrats to Steve and the whole CM team. Reminiscing about the CM6 days to where CM is now always brings a tear to my eyes. Lol.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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I noticed all the iDevices and was very intrigued by it. CM on iOS devices? That's something I can get excited about.
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"The firm's first announced step is to improve the process of installing the software on owner's devices, which Kondik described as "hideous". A new installer app is planned to be released "in the coming weeks" on Google Play. The installer app will not require rooting the device, instead installing by simply clicking a button."
http://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/CyanogenMod:_Open-source_smartphone_OS_goes_commercial?dpl_id=785316
If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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dude. C'mon.
Really?
C'mon.
The whole point of CM is to get closer to the stock experience. It's just that now, overlays like TW and Sense don't suck. CM is upping their ante to compete with these guys (Hence the project name Nemesis). They are introducing features like CM accounts and focal, which don't detract from the experience.
It would be suicide for CM to completely run away with Android like that.
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If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
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Looks like the installer will only work on unlocked *bootloader unlocked* and developer editions, they are hoping more manufacturers will eventually offer offical unlock, similar to HTC dev unlock I am thinking. So it isn't going to magically install CM on any device.
CyanogenMod will have its own installer app “in the coming weeks” which will be available in the Play Store. Initially the app will not install CyanogenMod on devices for which unofficial exploits were used to unlock their bootloaders. Steve Kondik (cyanogen himself if you didn’t already know) had this to say about the installer app:
The first release of the installer won’t support devices that require exploits. The long-term goal is to open up OEMs to the possibility of supporting us officially- there’s zero technical reason for these measures and the best way to fix it is to not buy these devices and speak your mind.
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It’s more important to me to work with OEMs on changing policy than developing exploits, though. And we’ll do that by creating great stuff that people want to use.
The app should work seamlessly on your Nexus device, your Developer Edition device or your device for which an official bootloader unlock is available.
Also some interesting read on focal https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs
My first android device was Samsung Galaxy Ace. Which was quite nice until I got to know that it won’t receive upgrades past Gingerbread. So, I bought a Galaxy SII. SII was an amazing phone. A great bump in performance and screen size for me after Galaxy Ace. Also SII had the sweet Ice Cream Sandwich. It also got updated to Jelly Bean (4.1.2). Then I made the switch to Galaxy SIII. Which at the time of my purchase still had the same software 4.1.2. Now, it didn’t feel like a huge upgrade in terms of how my phone looked. Except a couple of add-ons the software was similar. Then a 4.2.2 was leaked around the same time when Google released 4.3 and I updated to it, hoping it would bring some fresh change but it wasn’t much. And it had bugs too. I waited for the bugs to be fixed but then Samsung announced that they are skipping 4.2.2 for SIII and will directly update it to 4.3. I was kind of sad but it was good to know that it was getting updated to 4.3. Though when the actual update came out, this was around the time Google announced KitKat, it was again filled with bugs. Now, that wasn’t a leak that was the official update from Samsung and then they stopped the update temporarily to fix the bugs. They released one more 4.3 update after addressing those bugs from previous one but this one had more. And those never got addressed. Then Samsung announced that the international version of SIII, the one I had, will not receive upgrade to Android 4.4 as 1 GB RAM is not enough to run Samsung customizations smoothly. But the versions with 2GB RAM will receive the updates. Some people appreciated Samsung for actually working on to release an upgrade for a device that was out of the conventional upgrade period. But those people need to evaluate the facts that SIII was the company’s most successful phone. Also when you see the timeline of when the updates were released you realise that every update was released almost around 6 months of announcement from Google.
After being fed up with their update system I made the switch to Nexus 5. Even though I haven’t received any major updates, the vanilla android experience itself has been pretty great. And when I compared it to a GS5 running 4.4, I was even more happy. The time to time lag on S5 when switching between apps or the app opening speed or the lag when opening the recent app menu, they all just make me a little bit happier that I am not a Samsung customer anymore.
I just switched from the Samsung S4 to the N% a few weeks ago.
Even though the screen sizes are the "Same" the N5 has a little less usable space because of the soft keys. The S4 has keys below the screen.
No big deal for me though.
The N5 test slower on AnTuTu and Quadrant than the S4, however the N5 is a ton faster than the S4 on everything that I do, for screen scrooling, to app launching, to web sites loading, everything.
The N5 simply leaves the S4 in the dust.
I'm very impressed so far, and happy about the switch.
I still have the S4 as a backup if needed.
Fred
Fred98TJ said:
I just switched from the Samsung S4 to the N% a few weeks ago.
Even though the screen sizes are the "Same" the N5 has a little less usable space because of the soft keys. The S4 has keys below the screen.
No big deal for me though.
Fred
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Benchmarks don't come into play. they sure as hell don't prove the speed and performance we get on nexus.
about those soft-keys. this what I recently did.
installed LMT
disabled navigation bar
I am running stock on ART. so no xposed module for me
WeandDroid said:
Benchmarks don't come into play. they sure as hell don't prove the speed and performance we get on nexus.
about those soft-keys. this what I recently did.
installed LMT
disabled navigation bar
I am running stock on ART. so no xposed module for me
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What's LMT?
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
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What's LMT?
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
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Fred98TJ said:
I just switched from the Samsung S4 to the N% a few weeks ago.
Even though the screen sizes are the "Same" the N5 has a little less usable space because of the soft keys. The S4 has keys below the screen.
No big deal for me though.
The N5 test slower on AnTuTu and Quadrant than the S4, however the N5 is a ton faster than the S4 on everything that I do, for screen scrooling, to app launching, to web sites loading, everything.
The N5 simply leaves the S4 in the dust.
I'm very impressed so far, and happy about the switch.
I still have the S4 as a backup if needed.
Fred
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there is no way a snapdragon 600 can beat a snapdragon 800 in any benchmark
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there is no way a snapdragon 600 can beat a snapdragon 800 in any benchmark
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samsung devices come with custom dalvik/bionic by default, the nexus does not. becuse it includes a custom dalvik/bionic it scores better. thats why many rooted nexus 5 users flash different dalviks/bionics. the sgs4 can not beat a nexus running custom dalvik/bionic as well.
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what if you wanted to switch two years ago? you'd still be with Samsung
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there is no way a snapdragon 600 can beat a snapdragon 800 in any benchmark
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The S4 does score better than a non-rooted N5.
"samsung devices come with custom dalvik/bionic by default, the nexus does not. becuse it includes a custom dalvik/bionic it scores better."
HOWEVER, in real world use my N5 runs circles around my S4.
Fred
Fred98TJ said:
The S4 does score better than a non-rooted N5.
"samsung devices come with custom dalvik/bionic by default, the nexus does not. becuse it includes a custom dalvik/bionic it scores better."
HOWEVER, in real world use my N5 runs circles around my S4.
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circles isnt even the right word. my n5 plays in a professional league while my s4 is still TRYING to get onto a minor league team.
WeandDroid said:
Hello everyone
I have written a new blog post about my experience with samsung and why I switched from it. Have a look and feel free to comment and share your experience
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Why couldn't you post your thoughts here? You make people click your link instead.
Another useless post.
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TheCybertronian said:
Another useless post.
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Ironic because you made a useless comment.
On topic: Yeah, I switched from an S3 and was extremely happy. I used to really enjoy touch wiz because of a couple of features but the sluggishness of the phone was getting on my nervous. I flashed a stable built of CM, which wasn't great because that had some pretty serious bugs which annoyed me also. Then the N5 came out and I decided to buy and I am very happy with the experience.
I like nexus 5 but I'm dying to go back to Samsung but i know if i get the galaxy s5 I'll be dying to get back my nexus 5
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My fiance and I also just ditched Verizon and switched to n5's from s4's. Couldn't be happier. I love Verizon's network but they are overpriced and lock everything down. We are in stl so T-Mobile works just as well.
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Hello everyone
I have written a new blog post about my experience with samsung and why I switched from it. Have a look and feel free to comment and share your experience
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Nice post, I think it sums up a lot of users' feelings too. I've never owned a Samsung phone - I started with nexus and have only used nexus since and i couldn't be happier. Between getting major updates first and the rich development community, you have very little limitations with these phones. I just hope that if Google kills the nexus line like they're rumored to, that they still deliver the same experience with future GPE devices (currently, GPE devices are not on par with the nexus line in my opinion).
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Speaking as a former Galaxy S3 T-Mobile owner, I had to stay that Knox software and bootloader locking is what finally made me give up on the Galaxy series. The Nexus 5 on my opinion is a developer phone and a guideline of what other companies should follow. I'd rather not pay to own hardware that doesn't let me use it in the way I want. Plus no matter how you looked at it TouchWiz was insanely slow because of all the extra features, some of which most people would never use.
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Why couldn't you post your thoughts here? You make people click your link instead.
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Changed that now.
ARTvsDalvik
Next post, both here and on my blog will be ARTvsDalvik. And not just in terms of speed.
I appreciate your positive feedback for this device but there is no necessity for a user review of a device which is almost 6 months old. Thread closed
So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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Letters falling out the back-- thats happened to how many people? maybe 10-20? thats not an issue.
Average battery life-- ive seen a minimal of 6 hours screen on time since i got the n6.
Screen burn in-- it can happen to any device, particularly amoled screens. this early is very uncommon. btw, note 4, amoled screen as well.
Average camera-- its much better than an average smartphone user knows.
Bad avalibility worldwide-- ok, with this ill agree. but its still a very new device as well.
Units with flaking paint-- i havent seen nor read of any real complaints.
Units with bad software-- att units only, the ones with a locked sim.
Lollipop just being buggy-- everything starts off buggy, then it get fixed with time.
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge-- not true. my n6 was taking in 2400mV at 60% battery. ive never ever seen so much going into a phone. my nexus 5 takes in 1200mV, max. you also have to remember, the battery is much bigger, so itll take more time filling it as well.
hutzdani said:
So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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I don't think it is Motorola trolling us
Lol!
Have fun fitting a square peg into a round hole.
That's my analogy with AOSP running on Sammy devices. Always one thing wrong.
hutzdani said:
So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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Are you retarted! GPE devices weren't built with stock Android in mind. Stock Android doesn't fully utilize the unsupported and proprietary hardware found on GPE devices. A proper Nexus ALWAYS gets Android updates first and yeah, only the N6's that were desecrated by AT&T are having bugs. True Nexus aficionados know better than to get violated/crippled Nexus devices from the wireless carriers.
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SilkyJohnson said:
Have fun fitting a square peg into a round hole.
That's my analogy with AOSP running on Sammy devices. Always one thing wrong.
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Even AOSP isn't the full Google experience that Google intends for mobile devices. There exists some Google proprietary software that only the Nexus devices get.
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Are you retarted! GPE devices weren't built with stock Android in mind. Stock Android doesn't fully utilize the unsupported and proprietary hardware found on GPE devices. A proper Nexus ALWAYS gets Android updates first and yeah, only the N6's that were desecrated by AT&T are having bugs. True Nexus aficionados know better than to get violated/crippled Nexus devices from the wireless carriers.
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Even AOSP isn't the full Google experience that Google intends for mobile devices. There exists some Google proprietary software that only the Nexus devices get.
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Nah im not retarded im just not willkng fork out almost 600 pounds on a **** phone, there are better options about that you can go and buy andndont have a small list if faults qith them and google new buggy OS on them.
Id get a note 4 after dome seirous consideration but i dobt want physicsl keys or any samsung **** software ill never use.
Phones are turning out like video games these days, and you cany patch hardware issues so im reluctant to get such an expensive device with a good chance thay it will look like **** in a months time.
And if the nexus 6 is as slow as my N5 is with 5.0 currently ill definalty wait for 5.1 and re worked nexus 6 hardwear
Lol gtfo haha
Note 4 is not getting GPE ROM. With any luck, the S5 will.
What the Note will get is a buggy AOSP ROM with incomplete camera and sensor support.
My at&t has been flawless from day one. The few things they did were easily remedied. I've literally had none of the issues you listed off. It's like flipping out over iPhone Bendgate when like 2 people reported it. When things are manufactured in mass, not every single piece is going to be perfect or get caught before they go out. Regardless of what you paid for it.
Sometimes you got to take a step back from the forums and just see for yourself. We are very small but vocal group.
I got caught up in the reviews and reading the threads and was almost turned off by the Nexus.
But after buying it I'm not looking back. I'm pretty dang satisfied.
My screen has no burn in. No letters falling off the back, or flaking paint, or battery acid leaking out or whatever else folks come up with.
My battery life is pretty average. And there are a few kinks that need to be worked out but I'm sure that's expected with a brand new phone running new software.
I love the Note 4. Test drove it for a few days and was very impressed. But I hate touchwiz. And can't play that game waiting for development.
The people reporting these issues are definitely the extremely vocal minority.
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The people reporting these issues are definitely the extremely vocal minority.
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Further, go read Note4 boards and there's issues. There is no perfect phone.
If you want to look for things to complain about re: a phone - any phone - you will find them. I'm extremely happy with my N6 and I suspect many others feel the same way.
Perhaps the OP would be better off with an iPhone.
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Yikes, I couldn't wish that on anybody ... lol
laureanop said:
Note 4 is not getting GPE ROM. With any luck, the S5 will.
What the Note will get is a buggy AOSP ROM with incomplete camera and sensor support.
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just give it time
Hey guys is there anybody out there that's working or could work on Google's pure 4.4.4 version of KitKat for our note 4? There are a lot of rooted apps & games that are not supported in 5.0 lollipop & I also want to enjoy my 3GB of ram without installing a custom Samsung based rom that takes up almost 2 gigs of it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
spunkfaucet666 said:
Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Same here I need a cm11 or a 4.4.4 rom that's cm11 based
I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
mgbotoe said:
I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
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Yeah that's true but I don't know any developers on here lol plus I don't know any that's willing to work on one knowing everybody is going crazy about the 5.0 lollipop update
I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
mgbotoe said:
I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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Yeah that's sadly true. But it won't hurt to ask.....even tho I might 99 replies in "no" but I might get one yes & hopefully that matters
Lollipop, Nexus 6, Experia 3Z
BACARDILIMON said:
I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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I be honest I will be staying on nk4 when lollipop drops.
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Yeah...that was the gist of what I wrote. LOL
The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
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It beyond me why they would make a phone without an SD card slot. Wtf.
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Honestly, i wouldnt mind a CM11 rom. I really loved the stock 4.4.4 that came the with Nexus 5, smooth and bare.
But another point is, development doesnt go backwards (usually, anyway).
I would love it, but it wont be done .
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@slayher wink wink.
Pay the man, maybe he'll port.
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Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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Thank you. Any help is appreciated
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Lmao, I'm stealing that btw
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