Cyanogen goes from from Android mod to legit startup with $7M from Benchmark
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/18/c...-mod-to-legit-startup-with-7m-from-benchmark/
Hopefully we see good things in the foreseeable future, gotta love what CM has done for all of us :thumbup:
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This guy is a legend.
Good luck to Steve... I would be willing to at least try out a Cyanogen OS phone.
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Even though I do not use CM.
I wish them the BEST!!!
I hope they become 2nd. Not 3rd
Because....
"Apples are meant for eating...period."
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Cyanogenmod was the first rom i ever flashed. Seeing it grow up kinda brings a tear to my eye :crying: . Best of luck Steve im sure it will be popular!
Does anyone else realize how nuts this is? I mean, from a back door, unlicensed, hackers, weekend project to a full fledged entity that directly competes against big name software. All for free. This is amazing and can only get better congrats to them and the whole android hacker community!
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Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
Here is the full blog by the guy himself.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter
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Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
I thought this was funny
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/Y1NNyPMMVfN
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
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Although I don't typically use it as a stand-alone ROM, most of the ROMs I build and like best are based in CM. They have a great team and embody everything about open-source that users, devs and aspiring devs want to emulate. I think it's high time they receive the recognition they deserve and a top spot in the Android and mobile OS forum. Best of luck, guys!
Started from the bottom now he here! Congrats to Steve and the whole CM team. Reminiscing about the CM6 days to where CM is now always brings a tear to my eyes. Lol.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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I noticed all the iDevices and was very intrigued by it. CM on iOS devices? That's something I can get excited about.
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"The firm's first announced step is to improve the process of installing the software on owner's devices, which Kondik described as "hideous". A new installer app is planned to be released "in the coming weeks" on Google Play. The installer app will not require rooting the device, instead installing by simply clicking a button."
http://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/CyanogenMod:_Open-source_smartphone_OS_goes_commercial?dpl_id=785316
If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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dude. C'mon.
Really?
C'mon.
The whole point of CM is to get closer to the stock experience. It's just that now, overlays like TW and Sense don't suck. CM is upping their ante to compete with these guys (Hence the project name Nemesis). They are introducing features like CM accounts and focal, which don't detract from the experience.
It would be suicide for CM to completely run away with Android like that.
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If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
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Looks like the installer will only work on unlocked *bootloader unlocked* and developer editions, they are hoping more manufacturers will eventually offer offical unlock, similar to HTC dev unlock I am thinking. So it isn't going to magically install CM on any device.
CyanogenMod will have its own installer app “in the coming weeks” which will be available in the Play Store. Initially the app will not install CyanogenMod on devices for which unofficial exploits were used to unlock their bootloaders. Steve Kondik (cyanogen himself if you didn’t already know) had this to say about the installer app:
The first release of the installer won’t support devices that require exploits. The long-term goal is to open up OEMs to the possibility of supporting us officially- there’s zero technical reason for these measures and the best way to fix it is to not buy these devices and speak your mind.
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It’s more important to me to work with OEMs on changing policy than developing exploits, though. And we’ll do that by creating great stuff that people want to use.
The app should work seamlessly on your Nexus device, your Developer Edition device or your device for which an official bootloader unlock is available.
Also some interesting read on focal https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs
Related
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/20/froyo-motorola-milestone-undecided
And the hits just keep on hitting for Motorola Android handset owners. In a post on the Motorola Owners forum, Moto's Eurpean Marketing Director James King makes the following statement about the status of the Milestone getting Froyo in the near future:
Next European Milestone and 2.2 (Froyo). I have expressed over the last few days that the decision is pending. The team here has been collating key pieces of information and views from this community in the last month and providing input to relevant teams in Motorola so they are aware. I am pushing for that decision to be made as quickly as possible, and we can then all go from there. Some others ask why the decisions on upgrades take so long, and why does implementation then take much longer still. What I can say and have stated recently is that upgrades are not a walk in the park.
Sure there are short cuts that people can take, but when you have to integrate software to a specific hardware, then test it and integrate with third party applications, let alone any innovation from ourselves, plus then get approvals to make this all official and safe… its is a big undertaking that requires planning and resource and third party coordination to see this all through. As I say, once we have decision, we will inform. JK
So for those of you who bought the device because it was advertised as a "Flash-ready" device, it seems your wait is going to be an extended one. From this statement, it does not even look like Motorola has even begun development on an upgrade package.
This statement highlights the need for Google to develop an outstanding UI with Gingerbread, so that handset makers won't need to put non-vanilla Android on their units. Updates to phones with Motoblur are delayed because of the issues stated above and along with that is the bottom line, upgrades cost the handset maker money, money on which they will not see a return.
For you Milestone owners, you have our sympathy, it seems like Motorola is making some missteps lately with their handsets, promising one thing but delivering another. I hope that you do get your Froyo update in the near future. More info as we get it.
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i think this is the last motorola phone for me..
Harunjo -
You're not alone. Follow "Return your Milestone" on Facebook, or "First official info: No 2.2 for Milestone?" & "Froyo 2.2 - Milestone & Flash" on Moto Owners' Support Forum.
What the hell is this crap? The Droid is getting 2.2, of course we should be getting it as well.
Unless..
I really REALLY hope they aren't thinking of not updating the Milestone to 2.2.
I mean, why would they not want to update the Milestone? The Droid is going to get 2.2, why not us? Not only do they trap us with their locked bootloader, but they want to keep us with an old firmware version?
Another point: Even if we do get 2.2, why not be open with us? Just after Froyo's announcement at Google I/O, HTC comes out and declares which of their phones will get a 2.2 update. Not to mention their devices do not have a locked bootloader.
What exactly do they stand to lose if they became open with the community and say: "We are currently working on an Android 2.2 update for the Motorola Milestone."
This was my first phone from Motorola, but it is definitely going to be my LAST one.
If they fail to deliver Froyo they will face legal action...they advertised this phone as Flash 10.1 compatible, it says it right on my box!
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they advertised this phone as Flash 10.1 compatible, it says it right on my box!
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Yeah, no. "Flash 10.1 ready" != whatever you think it means.
now they are really dumb
I hope certainly they will bring out this update, It's a good device with great potential, it would be dump if motorola doesn't update this one. They will lose a lot of customers.
its a shame, no other phone out in the market right now that is a slider qwerty and this sleek and thin.
they announce it to get us all hyped up.. then they release it.. with a catch..
motorola decides to screw around with its devoted customers. they don't realize how much money they can make from the milestone. open it up or release froyo.. or both! sigh
i wonder what the top executives of the company was thinking..
If we don't get an official Android 2.2 ROM from Motorola, let's make a community-branded Motorola Android 2.2 Custom ROM and send them the ROM saying "Here's what you should have made, but you failed to deliver". Give 'em some Deja Vu.
Still, it's the same situation like the HTC Tattoo - No 2.2 Love. Seriously, why do you want 2.2 for? It's just like an add-on to Android 2.1... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Why not take the leaked Android 2.2 ROM for a spin?
Because all the speed and the better baterry managment and all the goodies anyway,are not in the rom itself but in the kernel.
Kernel cannot be changed if there is a locked bootloader.
So we may have an almost working froyo port,but without the new kernel,it doesnt do all it is capable of.
So,we damn need an oficial froyo!!!! ::
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If we don't get an official Android 2.2 ROM from Motorola, let's make a community-branded Motorola Android 2.2 Custom ROM and send them the ROM saying "Here's what you should have made, but you failed to deliver". Give 'em some Deja Vu.
Still, it's the same situation like the HTC Tattoo - No 2.2 Love. Seriously, why do you want 2.2 for? It's just like an add-on to Android 2.1... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Why not take the leaked Android 2.2 ROM for a spin?
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that would be funny and send them a few pics of the milestone running it
confirmed that 2.2 is coming to the Droid by Motorola surely that means it is coming to the Milestone too:-
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/30001
Nothing is sure....
For example Droid's bootloader is unlocked, Milestone's is locked...
As we have seen Motorola doesn't treat the same to their twins brothers (Droid and Milestone), giving to American users more than they are giving to Europeans
So if they don't give us an official report about froyo, nothing is sure...
Milestone is like a bastard child of motorola, occasionally if moto is in a good mood they might give some TLC. But all the attention is given to the real child droid, droid x.
Milestone was like an accident to them.... now with too many kids to support they decided to ignore the bastard child.....
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Milestone is like a bastard child of motorola, occasionally if moto is in a good mood they might give some TLC. But all the attention is given to the real child droid, droid x.
Milestone was like an accident to them.... now with too many kids to support they decided to ignore the bastard child.....
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hahahahaha that was funny man, but yep motorola seems to dont care about the milestone, they give the best things to the droid =(
the fact is:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
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If I remember correctly, milestone got 2.1 earlier than droid and now droid gonna get 2.2 much earlier than milestone. Perhaps there is a reason for that considering the fact that droid was released only for american market thus less customizations and localizations compared to the milestone which was released in several parts of the globe, requiring more changes and tests. Even now they are still rolling out the 2.1 update, my guess, we won't see milestone getting 2.2 not until q4, with hope that they do work on the update.
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I guess we won't have a problem if motorola said that 2.2 is coming to milestone and they can't confirm the date. But the fact is that they now said that its not confirm that its even coming. I guess thats what people are making a fuss about and not to mention the complete silence treatment is not helping.
I could really see Moto trying to start moving to using Android subversions as a selling point.
Oh, that phone's old, it has Android 2.2 - better buy a new phone that has 3.0
Requires no work on their part (except locking the bootloader) and they force users into buying new handsets to get software features. Look at all the handsets on the market- they're basically all the same hardware wise: 3.something inch screen, 1Ghz processor, 512ish RAM. Only the OS distinguishes this flood of phones.
Of course I'm talking about your non-power users here.
And as to the "why froyo?" post earlier: because the sholes_2.31 kernel (current UK rom) is buggy as hell and only a new kernel will fix those bugs, like not being able to wake itself up to ring an alarm...
The 2.36 update will solve that.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I just switched from Windows Phone ( HD7 ) to Galaxy Note. If you think the situation with updates looks any better on Windows Phone - you're wrong mate. Been waiting for Mango quite a long time - when it arrived, i had to flash a stock rom from other device cause they cut some features from it ( like internet sharing ) which are still oficially not there for some devices ( half a year later! ). There's next update Tango coming - which doesn't actually bring anything new except of low-end device support. And Apollo is scheduled for Q4 - and 1st gen devices "probably won't be getting it"
At least, with Android, you've got custom ROMs that get updated really quickly, big dev scene, the ability to install apps from all sources - and code/test/share your own apps without paying annual fee for having your phone dev-unlocked, and they don't cut features "just because there's a new device - so go buy it".
I love Windows Phone - as a regular phone. I kept waiting and waiting for changes - but the OS is still as locked down as it was in the beginning, no "not from market" apps, no drag-and-drop media, most of apps still dont support multitasking, cant even access your files, and apps from the market, believe me, are not that useful - that's why i moved away to Android.
I'd give it another thought mate - and about Note being laggy - try ICS AOSP rom, they run really smoothly.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Good riddance, bro. Want some cheese with that whine?
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(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Laggy as Hell ??? what the hell ? you want to take advantage of openness of Android and still u whinin? lots of custom rom already running smooth on Note...
i m using stock LC2 n its really smooth
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I've never had any problems with Samsung's phones. The leaks provide enough of a base for us to get ICS working and Damn near perfect. I'm running an AOKP build with nearly Zero bugs and get almost 5-6 hours of SCREEN ON time per day with nearly 3 days of battery life with my usual texting and web surfing. Android is about being open, and as far as I'm concerned it is. Running ICS, I have had Zero lag, only one minor glitch (which is fixed in updated builds), better battery life than most of my friend's phones, a huge screen, and a OS that isn't crazy limited. If you change, it's obviously up to you, but I would go and test the many ICS roms out there like AOKP or ICStunner as they are simply amazing.
If you would rather have the WP7 then go for it. There's no point in us trying to convince you otherwise if you really have your mind set to it.
i was fan of android but the updates man o man do it 1 time in a month or so but every 2 a 3 day....update update....
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I got my device in december, and I've received 3 updates (maybe 4) since then. That's a lot of updates. I have no complaints. What you're whining about is not getting the absolute latest OS build right away. I'd much rather have Samsung pushing updates that make it a stable device than Samsung sending us crappy builds. That would defer me, and I'm sure many others who don't like to flash custom ROMs and such, to other devices. I believe Samsung is doing the correct thing and waiting until the ROM is properly developed.
Enjoy WM7. A lot of people seem to enjoy it! I was actually thinking about it, too, a while ago, but it kind of follows Apple's model of multitasking and that doesn't do it for me. Blackberry and Android are the OSs that offer true multitasking (webOS, too, but that seems to be dead in the eyes of HP/Palm lol).
The Note isn't laggy, Gingerbread is. ICS is silky smooth. Samsung needs to hurry up and get ICS on the Note because it shackles such a wonderful device. It's like Apple running the new iPad with iOS 3.0. Your phone is only as good as your software is, and Gingerbread is an antiquated POS.
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Sell your Note and get a Windows Phone is my advice. That way you'll be moaning in somebody else's forum instead of ours.
I've had WinMo, iPhone, Symbian and more recently Android and Google's contribution is by far the best.
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I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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You can use market enabler and choose tmobile profile and then you can install every us app that you want. Restart and you will be using default provider flags again. So, there is no problem.
I am using lc1 stock rom, the best out there in my opinion, everything works and pretty fast too.
WP7 is no where near WM6.5 in terms of functionality and way behind Android, IOS too. Android is the best choose in terms of functionality and practicality from all the smartphone OSes out there.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Honestly shaolin it's people like you that makes devs abandon XDA for whining about everything and everyone! Go.. get a windows phone and when you do and see how limited windows phone is DON'T COME BACK! Stay away from XDA and honestly i hope i can speak in the name of the whole community:
Don't ever come to this forum whining!
I won a Galaxy Note and honestly, i bought my SGS2 without ever had tried Android and i love the possibilities it brings me! The openess on developing!
I simply love it! Had my first chance on SGS2 and i will continue to use this awesome SO!
Please ask an admin to ban your account and go somewhere else!
Bye bye. Enjoy whatever phone you'll be getting. Just remember, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
Im not the only one
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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I don't get folks like you. You actually purchase a phone for what it will be, as opposed to what it is.
Do you only live in the future? Don't forget the present mate.
If you're so unhappy with the lack of updates or the speed of updates, go get iOS and WP7. No one is grabbing you by the ball-sack to stay with Androids.
P.S. Requested to mods that this thread be moved to Android General as it has nothing to do with the Galaxy Note.
Actually I dont even want an update from Samsung any more,yesterday I recirved an update for the Samsung Apps after updating it stoped downloading applications alltogether!!,
"You cant download with this email from this country" bla ..bla..there was no way Icould fix that even after signing up for multiple new accounts.
If things will look like this I rather be left along with the GB.
Moved to teh OT forum as they will advice you better on what to do about your quandary
May the trolls have mercy on your soul mate.
You have a 1.4GHz dual core phone and Mali 400MP GPU and say it lags. My friend has a Wildfire that has a clock speed of 524MHz and no GPU and even he isn't complaining as much as you. Why don't you donate him your phone and make the good switch to Symbian S60?
what is even the point of this thread? It appears you looking to justify your feelings because you read an article and lack confidence to buy a new phone without a thread of people you don't know making a decision for you.
android is great
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Hello everyone,
Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one.
I've settled on the Nexus range because I love stock Android and have found the hardware to be acceptable.
For my next foray into a 2013 phone I'm thinking of getting the HTC One and pairing this with Cyanogenmod, when it becomes available.
This to me would be the best physical hardware, in both appearance and materials of any Android device, and software.
Something akin to this!
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So the reason for this thread is to gain input from those who have used both Stock and Cyanogenmod.
Am I going to be satisfied with the move?
Visually things are the same? The use the same assets?
What problems could arise? What should I be aware of when compared with Stock?
Any other thoughts or opinions you may have. Please keep it in-line with the HTC One and Cyanogenmod.
Many thanks.
Off-topic but when I look at that Black picture I find it sooo cool.
CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
Re: blingfeed annoying
Is it worth it. I love it but even on the one x was frustrating due to not being able to use the camera to it's full potential.it would fly on here but you'd lose a lot on this device. Which would be a shame
(No doubt if be trying it still if it was here though and get frustrated again lol)
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Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one
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I had the last 'perfect one' - the legendary HTC HD2 - since it came out.
I dropped the first one I owned and almost sold the insurance replacement to buy a different phone.
I was tempted many times by the hypegasm of new fangled phones but, really, what were they adding that the venerable HD2 couldn't already do? Nothing really.
Glad I made the choices I did.
Wait and see, all these answers can be answered by yourself ...
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
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By default, it is basically identical, with a few improvements (T9 dialing).
However, there are many options to customise it - adding different shortcuts to the lockscreen ring (up to five, I think), quick-toggles in the notification shade, "quiet hours" (a setting which silences your phone during certain times of the week)..
The list is exhaustive.
CyanogenMod is much better than stock, imo, notification toggles are much better (and less complicated) than the quick-settings panel.
i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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im hearing the n5 will be announced at google io.
What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
Suqmadiq said:
What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
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Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
AW: HTC One and Cyanogenmod
NiCk.JaY said:
Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
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It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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I didn't read the question properly lol. Mate if your a fan of pure android stick with the nexus.I love both so I'm okay. But pure...there's a lot to be said for how quick everything runs. Though I wouldn't pass on the one.
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Thing is, stock rom (Sense) tend to have better battery life than CM10. Stock roms (Sense) are more optimised for the system. I've noticed this since my battery was a lot less when I had the S2, S3, HTC One X etc using CM10.
I also feel this may get a quicker/less buggy release than the S4 with exynos 5. I imagine samsung wont release any info for the exynos 5 like they havent for the exynos 4. The S600 variants will probably be fine but that may give the One an advantage.
it makes no sense to buy a HTC One or any phone for that matter to just put stock android on it.. you lose half the features the phone came with (even if their are gimmick or not)
You should just buy a Nexus device.. because in the end thats all you trying to get..
You are buying the HTC One for design.. not for its features..
The processors wouldn't be any difference in notice.. unless you plan on running HD 1080P videos every second of the day and playing games like "Dead trigger, Real Racing etc every day"
May-C said:
It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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That was just to explain the basics of cm to him
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The main difference between stock android and cyanogenmod are featured n options. There are a lot more settings, n tweaks and ways to persoalize it the way you want. There are also variations of CM like aokp, paranoidandroid,etc which add even more options and customizations. Also there will be sense roms with things added/removed l, etc that you may like. The great thing about Roms is that you can change the whole look ans feel of your phone within minutes. Best thing for you to do is go over to like the HTC EVO 4g LTE forum or the HTC ONE X forum and look thru the android and original android development sections at all the toms and get an idea what is out there. Any aosp rom would be cm like stock android and any sense is just that tweaked stock sense.
Hey there,
xplodwild here, I did the announcement session at BABBQ, it was awesome. Thanks for everyone who were there.
So yeah, we didn't prepare a lot of YouTube demo videos yet, but all the information about the philosophy of Omni are available on Omni website: http://omnirom.org/why-omni/.
We are a ROM different than others: we are focused on performance, cohesion, stability, innovation, code quality, community and open source. And the community more than anything else. You are using the ROM, you should be choosing what you want to have.
When we're taking a patch from another ROM, we're trying as much as possible to enhance it before merging it. When we're getting new features, we give you a way to give early feedback, early access to prototypes, early access to mockups, etc, so that we know immediately early on if we're doing it right.
All the contributions will be GPL licensed (at least we'll be pushing for it). People will be able to vote up and down on patches,
Some of the key features of Omni:
Flippable Quick Settings
Roadrunner mode
Multi-window(!)
Daydream enhancements
Integrated Performance Control
Multi-workspace
Color-changeable, 3D depth Phase Beam
And a bunch more
We're also pushing non-Android stuff, such as OmniInstaller (an all-in-one, multi-platform, open source, installer that anyone can plug in), as well as a Qt library to give Qt Android apps a native Android look, and have gorgeous and super-fast Android apps. We're helping users, and helping developers.
Everything is free, free as in money, and free as in liberty. And transparent.
Edit #1: Regarding device support, we currently support all the Nexus devices, as well as the Oppo Find 5, Xperia Z, Xperia Tablet Z. We have preliminary support for the i9300 as well as the Oppo R819.
Edit #2: We'll have a bunch of developer resouces up soon, giving a head start to newcomers in the Android development world.
I probably didn't cover much things but I'll add more things as they come to my mind. We're having beers here and I'm probably not fully able to do a comprehensive post right now.
Have some screenshots:
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NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
I'm overjoyed to see you guys bounce back after the Inc debacle.
Looking forward to compiling, testing and enjoying Omni.
Are you guys going to kang features from other ROMs (Halo and Pie from PA for example) or will all features be developed in-house?
Also, on which Android-version are the first builds based? I guess 4.3.1?
Since the annoucement of Cyanogen to be a corporation, I was searching for a new AOSP-based ROM for my daily needs, and I think I found it. Good luck guys!
I m dying to try this rom.
Would it be possible to port it using cyanogenmod or aosp as base?
chasmodo said:
I'm overjoyed to see you guys bounce back after the Inc debacle.
Looking forward to compiling, testing and enjoying Omni.
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Me, two©. Joli coup @XpLoDWilD @Entropy512 and everyone else involved, wishing you all the best with Omni. Nice to see espenfjo back on track as well.
#free^3
They say all nexuses are supported , then where is galaxy nexus support huh ? If there will be not official support , how can I develop a unofficial version of OMNIr for gnex ?
sakindia123 said:
NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
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It will do pretty much. We'll get sources up very very soon (ie. minutes), and gerrit is already live where you can see the MultiWindow patch being reviewed and improved.
SGWUser said:
Are you guys going to kang features from other ROMs (Halo and Pie from PA for example) or will all features be developed in-house?
Also, on which Android-version are the first builds based? I guess 4.3.1?
Since the annoucement of Cyanogen to be a corporation, I was searching for a new AOSP-based ROM for my daily needs, and I think I found it. Good luck guys!
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In the spirit of open source, if there's something that gives positive improvement on the user experience, and it can be introduced, and people want it, it will be included. There's a balance between "settings inception" (ie. a toggle for your toggle, to toggle text alignment of the clock) and something that isn't customisable, but that will be open to much wider discussion and consultation.
4.3.1 is the current version in use, yes.
Halo and Pie are 2 specific examples, but this is where the community comes in - porting these features should be fairly straightforward. We like to try improve things too where possible
AndroidAddiction said:
I m dying to try this rom.
Would it be possible to port it using cyanogenmod or aosp as base?
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The ROM is based on AOSP, and full sources will be posted today, meaning you can try to build it for yourself. Be aware though, not all chipsets are currently supported - nexus devices will have more luck than other devices for now, but that will obviously change in the coming days and weeks.
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They say all nexuses are supported , then where is galaxy nexus support huh ?
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I don't believe anyone has one here for testing, hence it has not been listed yet. it WILL be supported, but until it's been tested, it won't go onto the list
Have the additional selinux commits CM started picking a few months ago been picked here also? If so, would make getting a build up for the Sprint and Verizon GNote 2 much easier Now it's just a waiting game for source to drop.
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slick_rick said:
Have the additional selinux commits CM picked a few months ago been picked here also? By that I mean the 2nd commit from the top to the next page https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commits/cm-10.2?page=15 If so, would make getting a build up for the Sprint and Verizon GNote 2 much easier Now it's a waiting game for source to drop.
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We've not focused yet that much on SELinux, as generally we believe that features like this should be introduced once the tree is stable enough.
There's still work needing done for SoCs (like Exynos!), but once we have the ground work covered, make no mistake, SELinux will be in and securing. Until then though, it will not be a number 1 priority (not to say nobody can go fix it!) - that's the glory of open source
Hurray!
a small query,do you plan to include support for legacy devices?(for example, the video encoding/decoding patches for msm7x27/7x27a)?
Currently,no roms support this by default.
Great News.
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We've not focused yet that much on SELinux, as generally we believe that features like this should be introduced once the tree is stable enough.
There's still work needing done for SoCs (like Exynos!), but once we have the ground work covered, make no mistake, SELinux will be in and securing. Until then though, it will not be a number 1 priority (not to say nobody can go fix it!) - that's the glory of open source
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Makes sense. I use modified CM trees to build for PA which doesnt have that extra selinux stuff so building should still be pretty painless I hope. Last question, let's say I wanted to add PA Pie support in an aio patch or so, would I just push to gerrit and from there the core team and users vote on it? Considering its stable and working fine. How will that work? Thanks!
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sakindia123 said:
NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
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Still work to be done. I just barely got it working on flo and pollux_windy before flying out to BABBQ.
What's the Roadrunner feature?
sakindia123 said:
a small query,do you plan to include support for legacy devices?(for example, the video encoding/decoding patches for msm7x27/7x27a)?
Currently,no roms support this by default.
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Yes, we intend to include legacy device support as a key feature. I'll go into this in more detail later, but this was one of our founding "aims".
Provided compatibility for legacy devices can be implemented "neatly" without impacting other devices, it's actively encouraged
Custom ROMs were meant to extend the useful lives of phones, not leave phones dangling without support
hikarugo said:
What's the Roadrunner feature?
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Roadrunner was the "speculated" feature name for a previous version of Android where some people suggested that it would improve battery life, and add better power profiles and management.
Roadrunner was something Xplod is working on, but it aims to make it possible to easily and quickly bias your device's configuration for performance, or battery, or a balance between the two.
On a modern device with 4 cores, and 2.2 GHz CPU (or whatever), this is frankly excessive for simple tasks. OEMs usually excessively prioritise performance so their device feels "snappy", leaving battery performance poor.
Roadrunner lets you reduce "raw" speed, but gain better battery life.
pulser_g2 said:
Yes, we intend to include legacy device support as a key feature. I'll go into this in more detail later, but this was one of our founding "aims".
Provided compatibility for legacy devices can be implemented "neatly" without impacting other devices, it's actively encouraged
Custom ROMs were meant to extend the useful lives of phones, not leave phones dangling without support
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I will try to get @PecanCM involved, as well as the members from androidarmv6. They'll have a few patches to push up
Because we use different sets of qcom hardware sources, can I ask for them to be able to be fetched from different github users/organisations, just to keep the source code tidier?
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Anyone else interested in putting together a bounty for rooting this phone? I'd be willing to put a good amount of money towards it and I think pooling together would be a good incentive. I'm already missing being able to use xposed modules, plus I want to get rid of the bloatware.
I would offer money towards someone rooting the phone, but it could take literally months before it happens.
I'm absolutely fine with it taking months, just so long as it happens eventually. Even though considering the Note 4, it probably won't.
It would have to be a pledge thread and must be tracked and OP updated on a timely fashion with running total pledge. No off topic conversations at all just pledges or removal of pledges. It is a lot of work.
Keep us moderators in this section in on the loop. ?
Edfunkycold
Have a great day!
Worked for the S5 haha. I'm down. I'd put probably $50 on root $100 on BL even though I know it's a pipe dream xD
Almost have to laugh at these bounty threads for root. You should of known buying an at&t or verizon galaxy would have a virgin tight locked bootloader. If you wanted root you could of bought an unlocked s6 or a tmobile varient. Not bashing just saying its a rerun every new galaxy release.
I'm coming from an M8 after giving up my S4 and hadn't thought to buy T-Mobile branded and then carrier unlock it and alas I am now in far too deep. Still love the phone, just Miss all my xposed modules
I'm interested in this. It's been confirmed now that the bootloader is locked. Could someone setup an official thread?
I dont know if it will help the root process but here is the info that is shown on the recovery and download menus.
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fix-this! said:
Almost have to laugh at these bounty threads for root. You should of known buying an at&t or verizon galaxy would have a virgin tight locked bootloader. If you wanted root you could of bought an unlocked s6 or a tmobile varient. Not bashing just saying its a rerun every new galaxy release.
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Truer words have never been spoken. I wouldn't expect to ever have root on an AT&T S6. Plan on staying on the operating system that you have, which may be a good thing anyway. I've had Samsung phones for a few years and the ROMS that worked best were the stock ones. Like it or not, they built the phone and the software they built for it works best.
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Truer words have never been spoken. I wouldn't expect to ever have root on an AT&T S6. Plan on staying on the operating system that you have, which may be a good thing anyway. I've had Samsung phones for a few years and the ROMS that worked best were the stock ones. Like it or not, they built the phone and the software they built for it works best.
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I agree 100% basically if you buy Samsung you should stick with touchwiz, but it sure would be nice to get a couple xposed modules, just to turn off the persistent wifi notification and a few other things.
Xposed for lollipop does not work on samsung phones atm. Doesn't sound like the dev has a whole ton of time to address. . So no rush on rooting for that.
I wish there was something like a kernel exploit so that it would be at least possible to soft root it.
Good luck. You'll need to buy an unlocked boot loader to have root nowadays with AT&T. I'm guessing it might be a bit harder to get with a Exynos processor since dev support isn't a big as SD SoCs. I'm still waiting for Root for my Note 4 AT&T model. I will never buy another device through AT&T again. But here's the hill you guys will be facing.
1. Android Exploit
2. Kernel Exploit
3. A Dev to link them together into a working package.
Now #3 in the least of them all and even that will require a talented individual or two. As for #1 and #2, well you just have to keep your eyes on websites such as http://seclists.org/ and https://nvd.nist.gov to see if any exploits are found by security groups.
Good lucks guys, I really hope to see someone stick it to AT&T this time.
I think I'm going to return my AT&T version, found out I can get a full refund, and then I'll buy the international version.
I gave up my unlimited data plan to say F.U. to AT&T and their locked bootloaders.
Leave now while you still can.
T-Mobile wants you.
Service isn't as good but dAMMIT you can root your phones. Never have to wait longer than a week for root on the TMO phone releases.
I wish I knew more about what has to be done in order to get root because as an android user I just simply miss the little tweaks you could achieve with root. I also want to get rid of this ridiculous bloatware. I don't even use instagram so why the **** is it on my phone and always asking to be updated? I just miss being able to do things like stream all of my phones audio to a dlna source to listen to my music by the pool or in the speakers hardwired into my home. I will be willing to put $30 in if we are seriously considering a bounty which I hope we do because more incentive for it to be achieved is obviously good.
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I wish I knew more about what has to be done in order to get root because as an android user I just simply miss the little tweaks you could achieve with root. I also want to get rid of this ridiculous bloatware. I don't even use instagram so why the **** is it on my phone and always asking to be updated? I just miss being able to do things like stream all of my phones audio to a dlna source to listen to my music by the pool or in the speakers hardwired into my home. I will be willing to put $30 in if we are seriously considering a bounty which I hope we do because more incentive for it to be achieved is obviously good.
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Do your research before buying! It would save you all some frustration. I enjoy Samsung's take on Android, find the phone fast enough, and can disable most of the bloat and ignore the 1 or 2 apps that I cant. If root comes for the AT&T version that would be great and I'd take full advantage of that, but it's enjoyable enough without it to a lot of people, and not worth complaining about. It's not like any of this is a surprise, just do your research before you make the purchase.
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Do your research before buying! It would save you all some frustration. I enjoy Samsung's take on Android, find the phone fast enough, and can disable most of the bloat and ignore the 1 or 2 apps that I cant. If root comes for the AT&T version that would be great and I'd take full advantage of that, but it's enjoyable enough without it to a lot of people, and not worth complaining about. It's not like any of this is a surprise, just do your research before you make the purchase.
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I was fully aware it had a locked bootloader as I was expecting it and to think otherwise would be nonsensical. It's just I buy through my business as the monthly rates are cheaper so I have no option to go but at&t and this was the phone I wanted. I just think it's pointless to have so much bloat ware and a tightly locked bootloader. Not to mention I simply don't have the money to buy off plan. Just rely on Knox to get rid of someone's warranty if they root but atleast give the customer the option. Don't get me wrong I could live without it and touch wiz isn't as bad as it used to be but I love the community that comes with rooting and customization and you don't really appreciate it until it's gone. That and I also have a few paid apps that require root. I don't like talking off topic so I think we should get back to what this thread is about and seriously debate whether a bounty is worth it.
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I think I'm going to return my AT&T version, found out I can get a full refund, and then I'll buy the international version.
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So I can buy the international version and that will work fully on AT&T? Is the boot loader unlocked on those? I have the money so this sounds like it may be a good option for me.