Picture quality with 3rd-party apps - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

We all know now that the camera software is taking some bad pictures because of some compression issue.
But have anyone tried 3rd party apps like camera zoom or any other?!
Is the quality better?
I ask because I want to know if its a software issue or a hardware issue...and want to know before I buy 3rd-party camera app.

Kevin_seymer said:
We all know now that the camera software is taking some bad pictures because of some compression issue.
But have anyone tried 3rd party apps like camera zoom or any other?!
Is the quality better?
I ask because I want to know if its a software issue or a hardware issue...and want to know before I buy 3rd-party camera app.
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The quality is the same since every 3rd party app uses the camera APIs or camera Framework provided by Sony. It's a software problem, not a hardware one, but Sony is who has to improve it.
I wonder if CM or AOKP roms have their own "camera API" instead of Sony's. Probably they could fix the issue before than Sony does...

juanmaasecas said:
The quality is the same since every 3rd party app uses the camera APIs or camera Framework provided by Sony. It's a software problem, not a hardware one, but Sony is who has to improve it.
I wonder if CM or AOKP roms have their own "camera API" instead of Sony's. Probably they could fix the issue before than Sony does...
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Thanks for answer...Hm thats not good...Does CM or AOKP teams know about the issue or said anything about improving the camera for us?!
I did a chat with sony support and they said they are looking in to the matter but "don't know when/how the issue will be solved"

It's a software problem.
For daylight i use the stock camera in burst mode,it give a very good image quality.
For night time i use night camera from playstore,it removes all the noise.
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Only difference I noticed with camera zoom is u can set 100% jpg quality and pics go to 2.5mb instead max 2.2mb
So it's not much better but I hope rizal finds a solution for the problem like he did with my neo camera
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gm007 said:
It's a software problem.
For daylight i use the stock camera in burst mode,it give a very good image quality.
For night time i use night camera from playstore,it removes all the noise.
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Same here, using night camera +, quality is good.
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Lg Camera App - Finally im not embarrased of my photos.

Hey all
I have been so frustrated with the camera on this phone as it takes barely passable photos in daylight but low light its almost impossible to take photos that are focusd and aren't full of noise. The HDR shot is quite good but nothing special.
Also the photos are a little zoomed in and squashed down if compared against objects you've take the pic of.
So i searched around and came across Lg camera in the market.
It has a free version which seems fully featured which bugs you for purchasing it every now and again. The aspect ratio of the pics is correct and tt takes excellent low light shots especially with flash on and has less noise and focuses perfectly.
Just thought I'd share it see what people thought.
Cheers.
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
Kassassin said:
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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+1 on this, I kinda kiss the old camera app.
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Just tried it. The quality of the pictures doesn't even change.
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Sorry to say but its totally different pics on mine to stock camera. If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me in low light and has no focusing issues at all even in a pitch black room with flash on.
You can also set infinity focus which eliminates all need to focus at all so for me lg camera fixes the problem
Also the aspect ratios in the photos on stock camera are totally different when compared to lg camera so maybe you need to compare the pictures side by side. Lg camera is true to the scene, Google camera squashes everything down. Also the Google camera is zoomed in further than lg camera.
My phone has no focusing issues with this app now.
Camera zoom fx isn't really a camera app more of a toy but anyway hope it helps someone as its sorted the camera form me and I'm very picky.
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
zephiK said:
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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That is for video...
There are many camera apps.I like camera zoom.. Works well..
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But I take it only the stock camera app supports photosphere?
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biffsmash said:
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
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Please do!
I tried lgCamera as well as other camera apps and saw no significant difference.
There are several aspects to the bad pictures problem.
- One is the limitations of the camera module which no app can fix.
- Then there's camera calibration. The LG Optimus 4X HD has the same camera module
but produces photos with less noise. There's room for improvement here but it is most
likely going to happen with a firmware update.
- Proper metering and scene evaluation will no doubt increase the picture quality.
Manual control is one avenue to peruse this but I haven't come across and app that
gives exclusive control over ISO and shutter speed. Some apps let you select one and
then automatically adjust the other.
Check out Camera FV-5.
biffsmash said:
If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me
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this just made me lol
because you cant see anything that means your phone must be faulty!:laugh:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
zivan56 said:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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jmudrick said:
Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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The camera app *suggests* the compression it would like, it doesn't do the compression itself. The userspace module instructs the camera kernel module to do the compression, and the build in DSP in the Qualcomm chip does the actual compression.
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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this is a great app!!
but how to solve "widescreen viewfinder" no effect
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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But it wants too many permissions.

XSP camera

guyz when i take photos with my sp 8 MP the photos looks like minus 8 MP not 8
reallly we should do something about this we have paid for 8 mp camera not a potato camera !!
pm: i used pro capture and many other applications but the shots arenot even near to any samsung 8 mp phone while the video recording isnot that bad
Known issue. Some say hardware some say software. I believe that this is a software matter. You need to turn off superior and go to normal. I also installed the stock ICS app (search XDA or go to Google Play).
For me the main issue is yellow inside the picture when i take one at night with flash on.. But like i said i believe this is a software issue
if its a software problem then its a disaster and if its a hardware problem then its a ****en disaster .. how come
yea btw i noticed that yellow dominance on the photo but u can solve it using procapture but the over all quality still sux
Well it is not a disaster since a software bug can be patched and a hardware bug needs to be replaced or fixed by a service centre
Outdoor pictures seems ok for me if I am not using the superior auto mode. However yellowish pictures during the night sucks. Seems like the white balance in the software is messed up. Just change the white balance mode to incandescent during night.
Well day time shots look fairly nice in my opinion. During the indoor,moderate light and low light conditions there is a lot of noise and video is exceptionally bad. Im not really sure as to what the problem is, the Sony Exmor sensor is supposed to be really good tech, so im hoping its a software bug. Or it could be that the mobile version of the exmor sensor used in the XSP just isint a good lowlight performer. Your guess is as good as mine
Btw if you guys are rooted with CWM then i suggest u take a look at this mod.After flashing this my camera performed slightly better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435374
I think it'll be hardware tbh, surely If it was software somebody would've created a fix?
King p1n said:
I think it'll be hardware tbh, surely If it was software somebody would've created a fix?
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ye u r 90% correct as if it would have been software sm1 or other would hav fixed it
but till date bo1
so its clear that its pathetic camera hardware from sony
sanket_naik08 said:
ye u r 90% correct as if it would have been software sm1 or other would hav fixed it
but till date bo1
so its clear that its pathetic camera hardware from sony
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It's not easy to make a fix for camera ! It would probably need rewriting of some libraries and require a lot of skills. It's not very likely that we have someone who can do that in or XSP community. Plus the camera libraries are probably not open source so it will be even more difficult.
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pec0ra said:
It's not easy to make a fix for camera ! It would probably need rewriting of some libraries and require a lot of skills. It's not very likely that we have someone who can do that in or XSP community. Plus the camera libraries are probably not open source so it will be even more difficult.
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I agree, we cant be quick to blame the hardware. Camera libs are sony's proprietary software so i dont think theres much we can do atm(hack ,modify etc). In time im sure sony will release a fix, quite possibly in the upcoming 4.3 update.
Cheers
Still dont believe its a software issue.
What makes everybody think Sony will solve it via update?
King p1n said:
Still dont believe its a software issue.
What makes everybody think Sony will solve it via update?
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I never said Sony will fix it. I said it is complicated to fix. Hopefully Sony or another developer will do it but it is not very likely. We shouldn't stop to hope anyway!
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CM camera works way faster than Sony's.
(I'm running an unreleased,non official CM10.1 on my C5303)

Sony Xperia Z camera

Xda Developers can you please make a fix for xperia z camera, i thing that 13mp camera should have much better pictures. Can you please try to fix that softwear, thank you
Smoke690 said:
Xda Developers can you please make a fix for xperia z camera, i thing that 13mp camera should have much better pictures. Can you please try to fix that softwear, thank you
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You should try Normal mode or Burst to Capture better pictures and the latest stock version's camera is at its Best I guess except Low Light pictures which are a bit Grainy!
indeed , our camera is not that great compared to S4's , why is that ? are there any apps that can be used to greatly automatically enhance our camera experience ? or are there some special settings ? or just leave it on superior auto ? on normal mode I find the pictures worse
Try this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46111181
If you feel that I've helped you in anyway, please hit the thank button
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galaxy s4 has much better camera just because of software so i text to xda developers, becouse i would be very happy if their would make some fix
Looking at the hardware side of the camera on the Z is good, but Sony still needs to work on the software for the camera, there should be more optimization.
Djuro89 said:
Looking at the hardware side of the camera on the Z is good, but Sony still needs to work on the software for the camera, there should be more optimization.
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Try other cameras. LG Camera is a great one and works on other than LG phones.
I'm fairly sure that the stock camera creates awful JPEG pictures with bad compression. I'm not sure if there are any 3rd party cameras that capture lossless .PNG stills?
iDroid8 said:
I'm fairly sure that the stock camera creates awful JPEG pictures with bad compression. I'm not sure if there are any 3rd party cameras that capture lossless .PNG stills?
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Camera FV-5 for PNG
More here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48134355
Smoke690 said:
Xda Developers can you please make a fix for xperia z camera, i thing that 13mp camera should have much better pictures. Can you please try to fix that softwear, thank you
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48134355
iDroid8 said:
I'm fairly sure that the stock camera creates awful JPEG pictures with bad compression. I'm not sure if there are any 3rd party cameras that capture lossless .PNG stills?
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LG Camera takes clear PNG photos even on low end phones.
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before when Xperia Z was released early this year. It was petty bad compares to latest firmwares. Few people tried improving this with different camera apps and build prop editing etc. And we all came to the conclusion only Sony has the ability to fully improve the XZ camera. You may notice better picture quality with different camera apps due to iso profiles and other colour setting handled by specific third party camera apps. But the jpeg compression and other things still remains unchanged as they are depends on camera libs which is closed source and only Sony can improve them
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Go to theme section and follow my thread.. You'll find a best camera app... and check the sample pic's I got... that app gives the best quality photos...
From Xperia Z LTE (C6603) by Kaniboy

best camera app for nexus 6?

What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2917061
What's your favorite Camera App(s)?
how many times has this question been asked? and how many threads on this are there? did you bother to search?
snap camera seems the fastest... not sure on the quality of the HDR
#notaphotoexpert
Geko-x said:
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
I switched from Manual camera to Camera FV-5, which also uses the new APIs (so it can output DNG). It is a lot more polished and stable than Manual Camera.
BartmanJax said:
For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
Android-Desire said:
Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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It seems you have missed the idea of the app. It's called MANUAL CAMERA!
You don't change "quality" settings. You don't have HDR mode. Those are AUTOMATIC modes. This is a MANUAL application that allows you to adjust MANUAL settings like ISO, Shutter Speed, Over/Under exposure, white balance, etc. If you want all the "programmed" or "automatic" settings that come in the camera app, then use the camera app!
And if your shutter rate is slow, it's because you have a SLOW SHUTTER SPEED selected!!!!
Complaining about an app that is doing what it's supposed to do, is epitome if stupidity!
ARGH!!!!!!!
FireFly3k said:
The app works perfectly fine on my Nexus 6 and I really like the manual options. Too bad it's not possible to edit the raw images on the phone yet.
And the low fps isn't a problem on a phone for me because the auto focus isn't that fast anyway.
A timer for timelapse photos could be a nice feature.
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Edit RAW with Photo Mate R2 in PlayStore.
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Manual Camera was updated to v2.1 today, and it is now showing as incompatible on the N6. Anyone else seeing this?
seem problem incompatible N6
Edit : the fix should be available for download in an hour or two in play store
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
prestige2 said:
i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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Google kinda dropped the ball on it. Hopefully it will be functionality added in at some point.
core issues with N6 video before slo-mo can happen
prestige2 said:
i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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My sense is there are some very serious issue preventing slo-mo. That is, slo-mo you want to share because it would be close to garbage as it stands.
I shoot video frequently and was very unhappy when I got my N6.
- signal to noise (S/N) is not good on this device at this stage of the game. It simply is noisy, and it is correctable in software. Until then, slo-mo will be very nasty if anyone is brave enough to try to encode it.
- exposure compensation in video mode is poor - if you shoot a video of a person sitting in front of a blank wall (or a sky) and slowly pan up and down - you can see the exposure compensation "clicking" in stairstep manner as the device adjusts to brightness changes. It needs to be silky smooth or video looks like crap. It can be corrected in software.
- you can workaround the exposure issue by using a third party app which locks exposure compensation - but shooting video with locked exposure compensation is not a good solution.
my opinions.
@warriorpluto I couldn't agree more...I was hoping that there be at least a working port of maybe lenovo, sense 6 camera,z2 or z3 camera...maybe when more devices get lollipop well be able to enjoy the nexus camera...but I suppose for now the google camera shall do for now lol smh
Z camera is good enough. The only one u can take picture wit no lag. But no HDR .
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Manual Camera
Geko-x said:
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
So is the best camera app "Camera FV-5" with Cinema FV-5?
Just cleaned up in here. You guys can take the political debate to a different forum, please. I have absolutely no idea why this subject got brought up in camera thread (actually I do, but I'll deal with the certain member(s))......on a development site.
No need to discuss what I just cleaned in here. Please keep it on topic.
jlehenbauer said:
Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
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I liked the Manual Camera, but there is no option for video mode and front camera mode..

Moto g5s+ camera

Hi,
Is it possible to use any third party camera app that can produce better depth effect without any shutter lag.... And yah, without rooting, coz its just few days old so dont wanna loose warranty.
Moto camera app is nothing but a **** rit now...
Ignore me.
Webern said:
Ignore me.
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Sorry but dint use professional mode.... Minor shutter lag in normal photo mode and frustrating 4 to 5 sec lag in depth mode... Any third part app and sorry but my cam app is updated.
Have you updated the moto camera app?
Well so far for depth effect to work with diff camera app it needs to contain that of hardware side support for g5s+ too so, I don't think u can find one at time to get apk besides Moto camera which works on depth effect perfectly well even Moto camera sux a bunch cause of software side lags
MAILUS said:
Have you updated the moto camera app?
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Yes, yesterday i did.... Camera improved but still not perfect and lagfree...
Mîkòtø said:
Well so far for depth effect to work with diff camera app it needs to contain that of hardware side support for g5s+ too so, I don't think u can find one at time to get apk besides Moto camera which works on depth effect perfectly well even Moto camera sux a bunch cause of software side lags
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Yah i got your point and i felt d same thats why before wasting time to search app i thought its better to ask from the EXPERT....
Recent camera 2 update reduce the shutter lag and little improvement in pic quality too..... Hope i will better with new update if they are planing to.

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