[Q] Does the One discharge faster than charge? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After seeing how slow the One charges in Anandtech's review especially because fast charge is disabled, I have to ask this question, does it charge (AC not USB) if you are for example, browsing the web on​ it?

Definitely yes. I've only found one moment where it's discharged while charging.
That was when I was playing music as well as playing Shadowgun Deadzone at the same time. It was still charging more though because when the game was at a menu (i.e. not as much game activity) it would charge as normal.

KidCarter93 said:
Definitely yes. I've only found one moment where it's discharged while charging.
That was when I was playing music as well as playing Shadowgun Deadzone at the same time. It was still charging more though because when the game was at a menu (i.e. not as much game activity) it would charge as normal.
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Well that's great news as web browsing is as heavy as I ever go on my device, never play games.

I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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The battery on mine does seem to go down pretty quickly, if you game youre looking at a few charges a day. At least that's how it's been for me.
Maybe my units a bit dodgy

Strange, on my evo shift (old phone if you've never heard of it), the battery will continue to charge even when running intensive activities such as playing 3D games and such
It also depends on the adapter...Battery Monitor Widget by 3c lets you see the input mAh

tdingene said:
I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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Hi tdingene, just a quick question: do you have any ideia of how long that "very long trip" would be?
Thanks!

tdingene said:
I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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That's really bad. I haven't had that for years (since my HD2). In the car try a 2amp car charger. May solve that.
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tdingene said:
I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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Are you using a 2amp or 1amp charger?

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How's your battery life?

My battery life is decent, but the charging time is the slowest I've ever seen on any device I've ever owned. I'm not even kidding. Surely it's just a defect on mine right?
Negative. My charge time was ridiculously slow. To the point that while I was charging in my car, if I was doing things along side it, my battery would actually go down. Plugged into wall, it is slow but charges though. Maybe its just US or a small number?
Waiting to get mine still. Did anyone else notice that on Sprint's website it said the One has a 19 hour battery life?
youkosnake said:
Negative. My charge time was ridiculously slow. To the point that while I was charging in my car, if I was doing things along side it, my battery would actually go down. Plugged into wall, it is slow but charges though. Maybe its just US or a small number?
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Well, I give this 3 days before I send it back. Literally the worst charge time I've ever seen.
Fadakar said:
Well, I give this 3 days before I send it back. Literally the worst charge time I've ever seen.
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It seemed a little better this afternoon, but I've basically had the device plugged in since this morning(10am)(got it at 55%, and albeit the majority of the time, it was plugged into the vehicle[which hasn't been very good anyways[[my GS3 also loses battery while on charge if doing anything concerning navigation or streaming]]]) and it literally hit 100% about 20 minutes ago. granted I've been using it like a pack mule. and I'm sure you have too.
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It seemed a little better this afternoon, but I've basically had the device plugged in since this morning(10am)(got it at 55%, and albeit the majority of the time, it was plugged into the vehicle[which hasn't been very good anyways[[my GS3 also loses battery while on charge if doing anything concerning navigation or streaming]]]) and it literally hit 100% about 20 minutes ago. granted I've been using it like a pack mule. and I'm sure you have too.
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i heard they packed a li-polymer battery which makes the battery hold its charge longer for the life of the battery when compared to a li-ion battery.. and i dont think htc enabled fast charge like most devices...maybe someone will mod that for us...we need fast charge!!!!!!! still waiting on my ONE
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It seemed a little better this afternoon, but I've basically had the device plugged in since this morning(10am)(got it at 55%, and albeit the majority of the time, it was plugged into the vehicle[which hasn't been very good anyways[[my GS3 also loses battery while on charge if doing anything concerning navigation or streaming]]]) and it literally hit 100% about 20 minutes ago. granted I've been using it like a pack mule. and I'm sure you have too.
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Actually I haven't used it at all. Got it at 2 PM, was at 60%. Dropped my mom off at the airport immediately after, came home and it was 50% at 3:20 PM (which is okay because LTE was on by default and it's super patchy here so I turned it off). Plugged it in and showered, 15 minute shower and I come out and it's 50% still (plugged directly into the wall). Went to work at 5, 55% when I got there. Plugged it in to the computer we have at the front desk and over the course of my 5 hour shift it eventually hit 95% before I had to leave at 10 PM. Un-****ing-acceptable.
yeah, I'd say mine is a little better than that. I left the screen off and didn't use it for like 2 hours and it went from 73% to 91.
I bought a 2.1 amp charger and it hoes from 0 to 100 in 4 hours
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I don't have my One yet so I can't confirm this personally, but I've read in a few different places that the charging rate is a little slow compared to other phones. My guess is that HTC is trying to maximize the lifespan of the battery since it's non-removable. Quicker charging would generate more heat and might cause it to wear it out faster.
Yes this is the case. Check anandtechs review.
Brian speculates just as you do that it is for longevity.
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So how is the battery life for everyone? Hopefully it's good since it takes time to charge
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First day I got 15 hours. That was the usual installing apps and watching YouTube videos and showing my phone off to everyone at work. Will probably be awesome once I don't have such heavy usage.
adrianr514 said:
I bought a 2.1 amp charger and it hoes from 0 to 100 in 4 hours
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If I'm not mistaken, the phone has a smart battery or a circuit inside the battery that prevents it from drawing too much current. It is pretty much a standard among smartphones these days. Therefore, even though you use the 2 amp charger, you may not charge faster at all.
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adrianr514 said:
I bought a 2.1 amp charger and it hoes from 0 to 100 in 4 hours
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I have a 2.1amp charger and it took about 4hours to fully charge from 15%.
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Horribly slow charge times on mine as well. I think the GS3s super fast charge ability spoiled me.
LPChris said:
Horribly slow charge times on mine as well. I think the GS3s super fast charge ability spoiled me.
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My Galaxy S3 definitely charges faster with a 2AMP charger than 500 mA charger.
Do not charge from a computers USB port, they are going to be slow as **** without fast charge.
Just use a 1+ amp charger. Pretty simple people.
Don't put excessive work load on the device while charging in the car either
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Don't put excessive work load on the device while charging in the car either
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The way people are talking, it seems that simply having GPS and navi going are too much.
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Nbonne said:
The way people are talking, it seems that simply having GPS and navi going are too much.
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I've found thats too much for most phones. It all depends on the charger(most car adapters are crappy), I'd assume. I've had the same with Evo, Optimus, GS2, and GS3. If anything is running alongside gps/navi, it destroys the battery

Why can't I get a 100% charge?

When I charge my phone it reaches 99% and it remains there it never reaches a 100% charge.
And my led notification is always red never goes green.
Did anybody else notice this?
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Maybe you are using 3rd party application like Battery Motifier in which the settings of battery full is only set to 99%. I am using this application for charging my phone then this app notifies me once it was fully charge using a sound notification. Try to check your applications installed to your phone maube you have same kind of application or the likes... hopefully it helps
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Haven't installed anything out of the ordinary that would cause this.
Now I'm worried.
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I know for some Samsung devices they don't charge all they way. It is a measure used to save the battery
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My one did this but it was because I was using a Samsung charger (don't want to open charger or headphones in case of resale) so I tried my HTC one X charger and it went back to100%.
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I am using supplied charger, didn't see 100% yet.. But will see later on..
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I had to get an exchange for my first handset. It had major gaps, and battery never fully charged.
It seems it was due to a dodgy battery. Even if the phone was left on charge for 10 hours it still wouldn't fully charge, turned on or off.
If it gets really hot while trying to charge after 98% it may be the same thing, and you should possibly ask for an exchange, or get it checked out.
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spikeydoo2006 said:
I had to get an exchange for my first handset. It had major gaps, and battery never fully charged.
It seems it was due to a dodgy battery. Even if the phone was left on charge for 10 hours it still wouldn't fully charge, turned on or off.
If it gets really hot while trying to charge after 98% it may be the same thing, and you should possibly ask for an exchange, or get it checked out.
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How do you know the battery is at fault?
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Why not let the phone discharge until it shuts off, then try to completely charge it from empty. I had an atrix once that would only charge to 99 after most Rom installs until I did this. Always figured it was a battery calibration thing.
Interesting fact, Lithium-ion polymer batteries do not charge to 100% capacity by design. They are actually quite difficult to charge correctly (in the electrical engineering sense, it's still plug and charge for the end user) and it is not worth the additional hassle to get to a "true" full charge. What the phone reports as 100% is only 2-3% off of the theoretical max capacity so in practice the difference is not noticeable.
It's hard to say if this effect is whats responsible for what you're seeing, but it could be related. Another possibility is that you simply haven't let it trickle charge long enough to report 100%. The last few % charge of any phone battery is going to go at a much slower rate compared to 20-90% for example. Really the only thing you can do is the somewhat standard advice to get a full discharge/charge cycle in to let android re-calibrate itself.
this is normal, it eventually does it,m dont worry about it
sometimes if i use the phone whilst its on charge it turns green
im not bothered, 99% is good enough for me it trickles down at the end really slowly
even 95% is good enough i usually unplug it at 95
I had the same thing when I got my phone, I was using a cheapo micro usb charger that did not have the beans to charge the one.. it got to 99% always.
Switched to proper one with phone and voila green light & 100%
For the record an iPad 3 (aka "new" iPad) charger works if you swap the USB cable also.
I am using the charger that came with the phone, and it has been an hour on 99%, any advice? To the ones who reached the 100% mark, how long did you leave it at 99%?
Happened to me too, with stock charger.
Finally got it to completely charge. I let it discharge to 2 percent than charged it with the touchpad charger. Most probably the first step isn't required. The charger outputs 2A. Will try other chargers including pc usb..
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millicent said:
Happened to me too, with stock charger.
Finally got it to completely charge. I let it discharge to 2 percent than charged it with the touchpad charger. Most probably the first step isn't required. The charger outputs 2A. Will try other chargers including pc usb..
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Let me know how it works ok... Seems like maybe its a stock charger issue...or maybe i just need to let it discharge to less than 2% most i ever let it down to was 9%...keep me updated please...
i had that problem on my s2 with some custom roms. it would charge to 100% if i unplugged it rebooted and plugged it back in. also it went away after 1 or 2 battery cycles
Reboot device when at 98/99%, then it will show 100% for some reason.
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HTC One Real Racing 3 LAG while charging

Anyone having lag issue playing with real racing 3 while charging? Btw the phone is quite hot too.
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That is exactly your problem... You should NEVER play intensive games when it's charging.. You're just doing harm to the battery and increasing temps thus more frequent throttling.
alanchai said:
Anyone having lag issue playing with real racing 3 while charging? Btw the phone is quite hot too.
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throttling, when the device heats up it will throttle, never game on the charger is a smartphone and not Sega Game Gear :laugh:
also custom kernels like ElementalX deals much better with throttling
Ok noted
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I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason behind not gaming while charging.
Temperature isn't a concern since this phone will throttle at the same temperature, regardless of charging or not. In one game, the phone will play to 42 degrees and keep it from going over. The phone reaches this temperature both plugged and unplugged. I do notice that the phone throttles more when plugged, but it successfully keeps the phone from getting any hotter than normal gaming temps.
So what is the reason not to game when plugged?
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ataft said:
I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason behind not gaming while charging.
Temperature isn't a concern since this phone will throttle at the same temperature, regardless of charging or not. In one game, the phone will play to 42 degrees and keep it from going over. The phone reaches this temperature both plugged and unplugged. I do notice that the phone throttles more when plugged, but it successfully keeps the phone from getting any hotter than normal gaming temps.
So what is the reason not to game when plugged?
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The battery heats up faster when charging
hamdir said:
throttling, when the device heats up it will throttle, never game on the charger is a smartphone and not Sega Game Gear :laugh:
also custom kernels like ElementalX deals much better with throttling
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Yeah, the One has better on screen time than the GG. LOL Man, those 6 AA's
MacHackz said:
The battery heats up faster when charging
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The battery heats up fast even when not plugged in. Try it yourself.
Does anyone know, definitively, given what I wrote above, why we should not be gaming while plugged?
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ataft said:
The battery heats up fast even when not plugged in. Try it yourself.
Does anyone know, definitively, given what I wrote above, why we should not be gaming while plugged?
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Rapid charge and discharge while gaming is probably the biggest reason. Really burns through the miles on the battery.
ArmedandDangerous said:
Rapid charge and discharge while gaming is probably the biggest reason. Really burns through the miles on the battery.
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
ataft said:
But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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Laptops are made to withstand heat, and the way laptops stay on when on the charger is different. Most laptops use half battery and half charger power. When it's plugged in, you can yank the battery out and the laptop will stay on while phones run primarily on battery regardless if it's plugged in or not (THIS IS BASED SOLELY FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE SO WILL PROBABLY BE HIGHLY INACCURATE)
ataft said:
But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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alanchai said:
My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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That's how it will be, and it kinda proves my theory too. Phones run on battery even when they are plugged in, and charging it while it's also rapidly discharging leads to a very hot and very slow charge.
alanchai said:
My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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NEVER do a heavy task while you're charging your phone bro. Believe me, your phone "will not be happy".
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Also, I imagine laptops would be different as their power draw is so much greater than a phone. A laptop charger provides much more than ours, even tablets are this way. So then the question also extends to tablets: are you not supposed to game while plugged in on a tablet?
It would be nice if we had a technical answer to this from HTC or someone in the field. I hate having to constantly recharge my phone because I played a game on it for an hour... Especially this phone, it takes so damn long to charge!
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How to Fast Charge N7000

I'm using a newly bought battery and original charger still my phone take 4 hours to charge full I'm using pa rom even on stock it take 4 hours how to fix it?????
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Ain't that normal? What's the capacity of the battery?
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There's no official fast charge ROM support available for Galaxy Note.
You can increase the charge speed my optimizing your battery performance. Most Samsung phones take 3-4 hrs for charging depending on the phone state.
Make sure you clear all apps before keeping your phone for charging as any running app can eat up the battery. Look up for any suspicious apps which may be eating up battery.
Use CPU spy to make sure that your phone is going imto deep sleep while charging, if not there's a malicious app which is keeping up the phone awake or there's problem with the ROM you're using.
Also check that your phone is not getting heat up while charging, as it could mean a great power loss which could highly affect the charge time.
If nothing works try changing ROM.
Or at the last case if you are a regular ROM chamger then try to clear up battery stats through some app available from play store which requires root.
One more issue which I once encountered was with my charger cable being faulty( although no signs of physical damage) and I changed it with a locally bought cheap cable and miraculously my phone stopped heating and charged faster.
The more you care for your device, the better it gets.
Hope I have helped you.
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Will try and its stock one 2500 mah
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gtsfreak said:
Will try and its stock one 2500 mah
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I checked my 2 Notes, max current it draws is limited by the charging circuit. Seems no kernel can change that value in the Note.
It charges max at 1 Amp, no matter if you attach it to a charger that can deliver like maybe 1000 Amps, the max current is 1 Amp.
That 1 Amp is also until it reaches about 90% ... since Li-Ion is very picky and actually dangerous when overcharging they slow it down.
It's a statement that I hear often in the wrong context : I bought a new battery and it takes very long to charge. Actually that is a sign that the battery has a big capacity. You can only take what you give.
Of course the charger and cable are very important. I would advice everyone to buy one of those usb charger doctors. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451375
Dirt cheap and you know what is going on.
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There's no official fast charge ROM support available for Galaxy Note.
You can increase the charge speed my optimizing your battery performance. Most Samsung phones take 3-4 hrs for charging depending on the phone state.
Make sure you clear all apps before keeping your phone for charging as any running app can eat up the battery. Look up for any suspicious apps which may be eating up battery.
Use CPU spy to make sure that your phone is going imto deep sleep while charging, if not there's a malicious app which is keeping up the phone awake or there's problem with the ROM you're using.
Also check that your phone is not getting heat up while charging, as it could mean a great power loss which could highly affect the charge time.
If nothing works try changing ROM.
Or at the last case if you are a regular ROM chamger then try to clear up battery stats through some app available from play store which requires root.
One more issue which I once encountered was with my charger cable being faulty( although no signs of physical damage) and I changed it with a locally bought cheap cable and miraculously my phone stopped heating and charged faster.
The more you care for your device, the better it gets.
Hope I have helped you.
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Just want to correct one thing, your phone will NEVER enter deep sleep during charging.
Jackwu696 said:
Just want to correct one thing, your phone will NEVER enter deep sleep during charging.
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Yah man, thanks, just checked it, my mistake...It is staying on 200 mega hertz. ?
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To fastcharge or not to fastcharge

Hi!
What is the consensus for fastcharging, is it harmless or is it better to disable for battery health/life in a long run?
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Personally I leave fast charge off unless I need to use it. I charge my phone at night while sleeping, so I don't care how long it takes to charge. I don't know for certain, but as I understand it fast charging in general is detrimental to the life of the battery over all, due to higher heat.
Thanks, thats what I am thinhking as well, charge regular if you can afford it (like overnight)
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This is purely anecdotal but my S6 battery definitely does not last as long as it did when new, and my usage habits have not changed. I no longer quick charge it unless I really need to. I don't quickcharge my Note 4 either. In fact, I never plug my Note 4 into the wall -- I just rotate 3 batteries.
I leave the fast charging mode checked but i use a regular 2.0amp samsung charger on it and have seen no issues with degrading battery life. The Adaptive Fast Charger (AFC) i use only if I'm out all day (work 12 hour days 2-3 days a week) and i want to top it off. So i only use the AFC a couple times a week. I still get teh same battery life i did when i first got the phone.
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fast charging in general is detrimental to the life of the battery over all, due to higher heat.
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This is true
Eric214 said:
I leave the fast charging mode checked but i use a regular 2.0amp samsung charger on it
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Same here.
Adaptive fast charging isn't good for the battery when done in excess, but cells are relatively "cheap" and can be easily replaced (at the same intervals that one would change the internal battery for a normal phone).
Use mine all the time. I never keep a phone long enough to worry about a bad battery. Even if I did, with the removable battery it's no big deal.
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fast charge is very useful, it saves a lot of time
I user fast charge all the time. I haven't noticed any battery degradation yet. That being said, if it does start to degrade I can buy a new battery for cheap. I have had this phone since November of 2014.
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We have a Note with replaceable battery so feel free use and abuse your battery
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