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[Q] smartphone display technology for comp monitors

hey OT dwellers.
wouldnt it be really nice if we could impliment scren technology onto computer monitors? that way at this rate we would be getting something like 4x 720p res with only a 10 inch screen!
considering 720p on the galaxy nexus 4.65 in screen...
tl;dr
any thoughts on retinal display (or similar) for computer monitors?
just my thought.
what do you peeps think?
comments appreciated

ClementNg23 said:
hey OT dwellers.
wouldnt it be really nice if we could impliment scren technology onto computer monitors? that way at this rate we would be getting something like 4x 720p res with only a 10 inch screen!
considering 720p on the galaxy nexus 4.65 in screen...
tl;dr
any thoughts on retinal display (or similar) for computer monitors?
just my thought.
what do you peeps think?
comments appreciated
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You can already get Monitor sized AMOLED displays with high pixel densities, if you're willing to pay tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars for them.
The technology is barely there atm though for scaling production up to these sizes. There are limited materials, limited resources and no consumer base as nobody would be willing to pay the current asking price.
There's also little advantage in having extreme pixel densities on displays that you are 5' away from when using them. Amoled would also be terrible on large displays, especially when IPS does a much better job at reproducing colour accurately and is an existing, tried and true, technology.
I'd rather see existing tech, and the processes used to create it, improved so that a reduction in cost can be passed along to us consumers.

DirkGently said:
You can already get Monitor sized AMOLED displays with high pixel densities, if you're willing to pay tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars for them.
The technology is barely there atm though for scaling production up to these sizes. There are limited materials, limited resources and no consumer base as nobody would be willing to pay the current asking price.
There's also little advantage in having extreme pixel densities on displays that you are 5' away from when using them. Amoled would also be terrible on large displays, especially when IPS does a much better job at reproducing colour accurately and is an existing, tried and true, technology.
I'd rather see existing tech, and the processes used to create it, improved so that a reduction in cost can be passed along to us consumers.
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Superb value for money

I just have to write that I came across this phone last week end. I was looking to purchase the Sony Xperia S for a family member, I have just purchased myself the Sony Xperia Z and truly like the phone. Could not get the Sony S but while browsing in the store I noticed the LG. I read the specs and thought the price must have been a mistake. I purchased it on the spot and can only write I am amazed at this best kept secret!
Its simply incredible value for money. Same CPU power as my Sony and the screen is amazing.
How on earth has this mobile not been better advertised? Quad core and all the extras for half the price of my Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Galaxy Note! Quality wise to my eye they are one and the same though the Sony Z knocks them all for six in this respect BUT so it should its an expensive mobile.
I have read some of the usual gripes here regarding this phone and some are fair comment while others are the usual silly remarks. I ponder what some of the whiners would recommend at this price range? I am a regular techno junkie and accidently found this LG and am amazed by it.
Well done LG, maybe LG should do an awful lot more marketing?

Thank god there are people who think the same, rather than complain all day.
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Ryland Johnson said:
I just have to write that I came across this phone last week end. I was looking to purchase the Sony Xperia S for a family member, I have just purchased myself the Sony Xperia Z and truly like the phone. Could not get the Sony S but while browsing in the store I noticed the LG. I read the specs and thought the price must have been a mistake. I purchased it on the spot and can only write I am amazed at this best kept secret!
Its simply incredible value for money. Same CPU power as my Sony and the screen is amazing.
How on earth has this mobile not been better advertised? Quad core and all the extras for half the price of my Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Galaxy Note! Quality wise to my eye they are one and the same though the Sony Z knocks them all for six in this respect BUT so it should its an expensive mobile.
I have read some of the usual gripes here regarding this phone and some are fair comment while others are the usual silly remarks. I ponder what some of the whiners would recommend at this price range? I am a regular techno junkie and accidently found this LG and am amazed by it.
Well done LG, maybe LG should do an awful lot more marketing?
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I'm guessing they don't do more marketing because, when the phone was their flagship, pricing wasn't as attractive as now. Now that it's this attractive, they have their Optimus G out and their G Pro on the way, so this one is too low on the list for any marketing investment from LG.
On the other hand, the stores that sell them for these extremely competitive prices should do a bit more marketing about this one
BTW, where did you get it and for how much?

Love this phone, sure s3 has regular updates and better support from gameloft, but its £27 vs £18 a month on the cheapest site I found
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I suppose people actually describing what their problems are, in detail, would be helpful.
And I don't see why we should try to help LG market their own products. (Even if I know how these companies tend to work - "Aah, we have 50 complaints about the 4x and the tegra3 from people on the internet, but our Snapdragon product for a limited market with a contract that you need to be braindead to sign up for gets loads of praise! Cancel the tegra stuff now, because l33tr000tclock thinks tegra3 lags!!1elevenseses!").
But yeah, the OP is right. Definitely very good value for the money. The best value for the money, even. Still surprised by how thick and plastic the competing phones are, for example.. Or the praise for the Sony screens - love that one. "It's a bravia screen, so it's good and expensive".. no, it's a backlit led/superled2 screen made in China, like all the rest. Which Sony deemed was sufficient for production units.
And manufacturers make a lot of bad choices like that from a consumer perspective. LG has made several "business-choices" like that earlier as well. So no complaining isn't really going to help, to put it like that. People who make informed purchases tend to be happier customers, after all.
Still - yes, you'd think LG would advertise this phone a bit better, if they knew what was good for them, right? That they'd say: look, here's an expensive screen we made, that has the touch matrix integrated in the screen layer, fantastic colours, very stable, no backlight bleeding in the picture, etc. This is the forerunner to what we imagine will be even slimmer and lighter phones in the future - perhaps one day we can integrate the circuits into the transparent layers? (<-note: actually technically possible). And the tegra3 array is the best performing kit, that also has the best battery life during load. Enjoy! Also, custom bootloader and open source! Wohoo!
You know, you'd think they would do that. But inside the industry HQs, the arguments go like this: "We need a more streamlined and cheaper design that uses the same components as everyone else, that maintains the market, so we can use the razor blade model infinitely, and get people to buy the same €400 phone year after year! So don't go making a phone that actually has the latest tech if you don't need to, for crying out loud, what are you trying to do, bankrupt us!?".
So when aberrations like the 4x turns up, that actually is a good phone (sadly, doesn't use lithium polymer battery, and didn't ditch the thick antenna module and so on - could have saved a few mm there. But outside of that, all contact points, mainboard solder, frame, construction is high above par), it won't be thought of as a product that the company should sell to earn money. It's thought of as a product that might impress enthusiasts, but which will be unsuited for sales in the general market. Even if that actually proves to not be true, and the price ends up in a very comfortable area.
Basically, you have the phone now costing less than a two-three year old htc. Loads and loads of dual-core phones that also cost more, that don't have expansion slots or a battery slot. So what will very likely be argued is that the 4x is essentially cannibalizing the market downwards. Even if the support LG has come up with for the phone, with the upcoming jellybean and open loader (for dual linux/alternate/android boots?) is very promising.
But trust me on this one - even if the entire gawker site started to cover the 4x and the linux spins, in the way they seem to want to have sex with their iphones, that still wouldn't be sufficient to change the thinking about how an "enthusiast device" can't be sold to the general consumer market, without cutting the legs off it.
Obviously that's not true - when android and alt. loaders, extra equipment, installing apps, etc., is as easy as it is -- then any reasonable person will see that we don't really have enthusiast devices any more, in any sense. Instead they average user-devices just become easier/possible to use. But that thinking persists anyway. And honestly I don't think we or "media" sites really can do much to change that.
Because when your strategy folks pull in people to test devices, they don't know anything about the hardware or the construction, right? They won't compare and say "this iron edge on the bottom of the phone is inconvenient! Get rid of it!". Instead they say: "I like this iron edge a bit better than the other one!"..

Xenogenics said:
Thank god there are people who think the same, rather than complain all day.
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I know right!

skryptus said:
I'm guessing they don't do more marketing because, when the phone was their flagship, pricing wasn't as attractive as now. Now that it's this attractive, they have their Optimus G out and their G Pro on the way, so this one is too low on the list for any marketing investment from LG.
On the other hand, the stores that sell them for these extremely competitive prices should do a bit more marketing about this one
BTW, where did you get it and for how much?
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not sure where you live but here in the netherlands it ALWAYS has bin way cheaper then the htc one x and was and still is the best bang for the bucks.

LG and Samsung gear up for the next bout of flexible display technology

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By: Robert Triggs, March 31 2014 - 9:05AM EDT
Samsung and LG are on the cutting edge of what could become a popular future trend – curved and flexible display smartphones.*The two companies have already released their first generation curved displays, the LG G Flex and the Samsung Galaxy Round. We conducted our own comparison between the two curved handsets at the end of last year. But where is the future of flexible displays heading?
According to industry insiders, who recently spoke with ETNews, LG Display will be focusing on reducing the size of its flexible displays and improving various display aspects, such as resolution, this year. On the other hand, Samsung Display is said to be developing a variety of forms of flexible AMOLED, with the aim of making the design the game changer.
Looking at LG specifically, the company’s flexible display technology is currently suffering from poorer specifications that Samsung’s equivalent. Desipite the larger display size, the LG G Flex could only muster*a 720p resolution and a pixel density of 245 ppi. Samsung’s Galaxy Round, on the other hand, managed a 1080p resolution, resulting in a pixel density of 386 ppi.
LG AND SAMSUNG ARE EXPECTED TO UNVEIL NEW CURVED SMARTPHONE DESIGNS LATER THIS YEAR.
This year, LG is planning to reduce the size of its flexible display down to 5.5 inches, whilst upping the resolution to FullHD (1080p). LG is also reportedly working to improve heating issues with its OLED design.
“Our goal is to enhance product performance a notch or higher across the board.”*LG insider
An interesting point to note is that Samsung’s AMOLED display found in the Galaxy Round isn’t actually “flexible” in the same sense as LG’s, which might explain why Samsung’s technology retains familiar specifications. As a result, Samsung’s future plans are quite different. Samsung is said to be experimenting with various curved designs, in both the horizontal and vertical planes, as well as designs involving*curved edges.
Whilst LG focuses on improving its existing flexible display technology, Samsung is testing out a wider range of designs and uses.
According to industry insiders, Samsung Display has decided to develop a product incorporating various types of curvature, which should be making its way into a future smartphone. Samsung believes that it will be the design that will determine the success or failure of its flexible AMOLED technology.
Both LG and Samsung are expected to unveil new curved smartphone designs later this year.
But hold on, we’re not close to this being a widespread technology, not yet at least. According to research firm IHS, LG Display and Samsung Display’s flexible AMOLED production capacity reached 20,000 sheets per month last year, from various production lines and display sizes. There’s no chance that current production yields could keep-up if the technology was to be used in a flagship smartphone. Low yields, high prices, and other component development costs are still limiting the production of units and availability for use in products.
“For the time being, flexible displays will not be found on smartphones very often.”*Kang Min-soo, IHS Researcher
The other half of the issue is whether or not consumers really care about curved displays. Despite being able to output around 240,000 sheets per year, Samsung and LG have only managed combined sales of less than 100,000 curved displays so far. This figure includes a range of technologies, including TVs. Perhaps new smartphones or wearables could help boost these sales figures, but for the time being flexible and curved displays will probably remain a niche.
Do you think that curved and flexible designs are the future for smartphones or wearables, or have you been unimpressed with this first generation of products?
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I really hope they don't reduce the screen size of the next flex. That's one of the things I like about the g flex is the big 6inch screen.
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I think 5.5in might be perfect. I'm thinking battery life probably won't be as good with 1080p. So people will complain about that. lol

Go down to 5.5? That bites

[Q] Third Party Camera for Nexus 6

I am a bit confused whether to go ahead and buy a Nexus 6, given the fact that I am die hard fan of Nexus line up or to go back to other phones which I don't prefer doing. Although, I hear the camera sensor and the optics have improved from the older gen Nexus devices the performance based on review are still not on par with the top notch iPhone and Note 4 cameras.
Comparing the Nexus' usage of the new camera sensor compared to the old and smaller sensors in iPhones - the analysis from review and my reference across many websites only indicates that the end result is mainly the product of post processing software. I am not sure whether I am correct in saying so. The same applies for Xperia line up as well, inspite of Sony producing the latest sensors and bigger sensors in their devices iPhone continues to better those.
Therefore I am assuming Nexus 6 is having all the capacity to produce great low light and quality images additionally with the latest Camera APIs present in Lollipop - can we improve the shots by using a third party software? Will this work? If so please name a few good ones that can beat or on par with iPhones or Note 4?
The response will decide whether I will continue to be a Nexus loyalist or going back to the rumored Galaxy S6 that might come with a light packaging in terms of OEM softwares keeping the Android as pure as possible to enable faster updates in the future.
Thanks for all your responses in advance.

Hi, I'm using Camera FV-5 and I'm getting great results! It has also RAW capability and plenty of settings. I'm sure, that photos from N6 using this app are comparable to photos from iP6+ or Note4
Check these links bellow to make your own decision:
youtube.com/watch?v=tdLgf9DmALY&feature=youtu.be
phonearena.com/news/Nexus-6-beats-the-iPhone-6-Plus-by-a-mile-in-our-blind-camera-comparison_id64437
camerafv5.com/pages/nexus6-raw-samples.php
(i wanted to include these links as urls, but because I'm new here I can't do it)
IMHO it's just about user how good or bad results can be. Of course, you can do bad photos with every phone.

I honestly get great photos from my nexus 6. There is a whole thread in general where we show our pictures. Check it out.

I have personally used the iphone 6 (my fiancee owns an iphone 6) along with the sony xperia phones. I currently own a nexus 6 and I have to say when it comes to taking pictures or recording video, the sony xperia is the winner, but the nexus 6 is a close second. I was very surprised at the iphones picture capability but still does not keep up with the nexus 6 or the sony. You have to remember sony controls about 90% of the movie production cameras along with the leader is 4k technology (in the USA) they have an enormous budget for video recording equipment and lens equipment hence that is their largest area of business. My background is through BestBuy. I worked in the home theater department (TV's and video gaming) for a while now and recently moved to geek squad. Through my experience with using all these devices, I still have to say the nexus 6 is a better phone as a whole. They each have their pros and cons but overall I am very satisfied with my nexus and wouldn't trade it in for a sony xperia. I am also a huge Sony fan because of their television panels (I own a sony 4k TV) but the nexus took the cake for me because of the more up to date processor components and overall processor speeds along with other small details about the device that i admire. even the Sony representative at my store will admit the nexus is a better phone.
I hope my opinion of the devices are helpful.

Thanks for the input
Hi all three, very useful opinions and convinces me. Not sure why these reviewers are always boasting about iPhone cameras while they use some of the old Sony sensors. Not sure when they plan to stop singing this praise.
Having said that, I hope apps like Camera L and Camera FV5 would improve the camera on an Xperia Z3 as well as I also love that phone for it's water resistance and underwater capabilities.
I would be interested to see a sample from FV5 and an iPhone side by side. But after reading all the inputs here, I am bit relieved from my dilemma between Note 4 or Nexus 6. Now I just need to wait for Galaxy S6 launch and their plans on March 1st and see whether Mi Note Pro is launching by then and finally decide.
My other option I had was for a Lumia 930, although not pretty sure what I would be losing in terms of other functions when I move into Windows OS. I have heard that on iOS you are limited in terms of sharing anything to anything while in Android it is more flexible. Not sure how Windows OS behaves. Definitely shortage of apps persists.

I have always stayed away from windows based phones and even computers. I use Linux and I love android. Through many debates with colleagues and friends the one thing we all agree on is iOS is more of a basic user friendly system but with many limitations and android is a much more customizable platform where you have many more capabilities to do practically anything you want. I have heard that windows based OS is first of all, a huge installation and runs slow unless you have a basic computer for a phone. Windows based devices tend to crash too. I feel they are limited as well in their overall capabilities. So if you like having full control over your devices and like customized themes then android is the way to go. If you like simple then iOS. Remember there are no 2 alike android devices but everyone who has an iPhone has the same basic layout except maybe a wallpaper.

I'm Venting; Nothing to See Here

There will be no tl;dr here so if you're not into long rants this may not be the topic for you.
Smart phone manufacturers think we're raccoons. Or idiots. Possibly both. Idiotic raccoons for the purpose of this rant. I liked it when Apple was the only company that made premium but dumb phones. I liked that they only gave users 1GB to 2GB of RAM, because what were they going to use it up on? But now, EVERYONE is doing it. They take whatever level of affordable hardware they can get away with and then wrap it in aluminum/glass and send it out touting refinement of the brand. The only thing they "refined" was their ability to market things that shouldn't even be sold. These phones are supposed to be built by ENGINEERING teams and engineers are supposed to innovate and solve problems. And there are plenty of problems with the cell phone that need to be addressed. A few examples:
Texting and driving:
How is safety with these devices not at the top of the list for these companies? People cannot help themselves when it comes to looking at their phones. I did a quick survey of 10 cars coming onto my campus and 4 out of 10 were texting near a crosswalk. 40% as a sample of the population on my campus who would rather look at their phone than look out for people walking or riding their bikes. I guess barreling down the road at 60 mph doesn't give people the thrill it used to so now we're adding the thrill of driving with one hand busy and not looking. What an exciting time to be a pedestrian. For the love of all that is holy in this world use the GPS technology in the phone to detect speeds over 20mph and lock the screen until it stops. And if you need your GPS for directions you open the app before you move and it replaces your lockscreen blocking usage of the rest of the phone. And before someone jumps in here yelling, "government overreach!" cool your jets, there is a reason seatbelts are not an optional feature in your car. The CDC reports that 9 people, per day in the U.S., die because of distracted driving SOURCE: http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/distracted_driving/. I would bet that a few a of those deaths are people who aren't in the car at all, but walking somewhere and hit by someone who doesn't have the common courtesy to drive like their life, or other people's lives, depended on it.
Texting and walking:
If you do this you're probably going to be hit by the cars I mentioned above.
Thermal Throttling:
A genuine issue with modern smartphone processors. We are to the point where transistor traces are 14nm apart and yet our only method of heat dissipation is the wind. That's preposterous. Engineering majors are required to take thermodynamics and it's because heat is a real issue. But you're telling me that allowing heat to just be carried away passively is the best we can do in a several billion dollar industry? My laptop is 13mm thick and has an active fan when plugged in and a passive fan on battery power with 10 hour battery life pushing 1080P. Smartphone manufacturers just aren't doing it because it isn't sleek and sexy. And why do I think they should be cooled? This thing is supposed to replace every device in my living room and be near me 24 hours a day. Why is is that I get frame rate drops when I'm enjoying one of my favorite games? Oh yeah, it is because my processor decides that it gets too hot and stops running as fast as it was before. Oh, and that "advertised speed" you paid all that money for? Really only reaches its peak when you'e browsing the web or doing less intense activities. If any of our other serious electronics did that, we would throw them out. Your game consoles and desktop PC's run at full speed until they reach their thermal threshold and then shut off. They don't vary their speed in intensive tasks, they go hard until they can't go any further and they shut down. Hell if your microwave changed power settings while heating your dinner and you had to wait an extra 2 minutes to get your food you would have it replaced. In a world demanding more battery life, I demand better cooling and maintained top speeds for CPUs and GPUs while gaming.
Aesthetics:
While I never wanted an Apple phone I always respected that they decided to make an uncomplicated operating system, wrapped in a very professional package and served to the masses as "premium". What I don't understand is why innovation is being stymied in the name of "premium" feel? When people in this forum heard that the new Nexus 6P was going to have the Snapdragon 810 in it, they almost in unison said there was no way they would buy a phone with that processor. In fact, response was so bad that LG refused to put an 810 in any of their devices (bravo!). However, now that the 6P is out and it looks "premium" people are rescinding on their stance about how they won't buy one. It's like a phone being pretty is enough to forgive it for being partly broken on the inside. Now that I've written that, it seems like a deeper human issue, but back on topic we lamented as a community about how 2015 was the worst year for cell phones and that seems to be changing with those same people considering the 6P. And that isn't my only example. let's take the Galaxy Note 5/S6/6Edge+ (now with plus sign!) and pay attention to what they did in the marketing department. 3 phones, identical hardware, different cases. Identical hardware at astronomically more expensive prices because the screen is larger. But the processor in the S6, which came out early this year, is in a device that came out two months ago. How are consumers who have access to this information convinced that these devices are worth more of their money. Samsung just increased their profits because they didn't have to innovate, at all, and just pushed the same old board out with a high-end screen. Example 3!: LG G4 to the LG V10 is going to have the same processor as its predecessor. It is recycling hardware used within the same year by wrapping it in a different shell and calling it "premium." What makes me sad is that people are going to buy it. Probably thousands of people and probably some people who actually already have the G4. It boggles my mind that people see this happening and just jump on the train.
Software:
This is my last piece of rant and then I'm done. Being here I love Android; anyone that knows me knows that. I will defend it and what it stands for until it betrays me in the night and locks my sweet bootloader into oblivion while hiding its source code in the dark shadows of Google's labs. But let's get down to brass tacks: there is only one Android OS and that is pure Android on Nexus devices. If your manufacturer put their name somewhere inside your software you just landed at the mercy of not one, but two teams who decide if you can have access to an open source operating system update. How is it that people are just OK with buying phones that insist the consumer like what the manufacturer thinks is aesthetically pleasing? I thought the whole point of Android was to choose how your phone was supposed to behave yourself? Why is is that we bash Apple users for accepting whatever they are given whenever they can get it and we are stuck complaining about how Samsung/LG/HTC might never release their revisions of Android to our devices? Manufacturers paid for the hardware, they didn't pay a dime for the software other than what they pay their team to change it to their liking and then we are deprived of updates because it is too much work for the teams that they put in place themselves! How hard it is to just develop device trees and pass them to Google so that pure Android runs on everyone's devices? CM does it every new release and people who purchased software from for-profit manufacturers may never see Marshmallow. This is a real problem and I know that circumstances are different but Apple supports devices for an incredibly long time before dropping it from updates. The iPad 2 was released in 2011 and it is getting updates for iOS 9 the same time as everyone else. That is 4 years of support. And the Note 3/4 are one to two years old and almost two releases behind? Software updates should not be sold as a feature (especially not open source software), it is updated to protect consumers and their personal information from being compromised and misused through security patches and release fixes. And no, not everyone can ride the train forever, I get that. But a company dropping support because they didn't think their devices would last 5 years so they didn't hire the manpower to continue making releases sounds like a corporate issue, not a consumer issue. The only thing we can do is vote with our wallets. Oh, and case in point for updates for old devices: Google is dropping support for the Nexus 4 (2012) in Android 6.0 but maintaining security patch releases so people using that device are not left open to security vulnerabilities. If you needed a reason to support a manufacturer, it would be because they support you.
Rant over. I'm just tired of reading the same articles and comments on here, being disappointed by each subsequent phone release, let down by a huge lack of innovation by smartphone manufacturers, and let down by people who continue to be part of the trend and not fight it in some way. I'm also mad at people who text and drive--cut it out. If I had an answer to fix all of these things I would post them here, but I don't. There should be a way to change the status quo of the current hardware industry and push them to innovate as opposed to buying into their hardware subscriptions plans. Hopefully you know how much you pay a year to do all that Jump!ing and upgrading of those devices. We're tethered to a yearly fee and we just let it ride.
You don't have to leave your thoughts but I'm open to them. I'm open to your own personal rants about the topic. I'm open to ideas and solutions that haven't been presented and ways to fix things that we know are broken. This community is amazing for that because we have talented people here who aren't satisfied with the idea that what you get is what you are stuck with. They work hard and use their time to make something better. There has to be answers here and a way to fix the calamity that is the smart phone market. /rant

Nice rant. I am not developer but I am with you. Got a couple of rants my self. Me to brings apple as example to look at for tey updates and I would say reliability. Both of them matters to me because I don't root and tinker and I want my phone to work well an safe for a few a couple of years at least maybe 3-4 years. I know its xda dev page but the period I had iph6 in truly got to know what is reliable and consistent in respect. So if I pay £500 for a brand new phone I expect it to work accordingly or even £200 worth phone.
O am willing tonpay phone even more than I said but in return I want brilliance O was talking aboit just like buying iPhone.
I hate oersaturated screen tendency and in general pop out colour display trend but that come from my work because I retouch photos and work on calibrated monitor . first of all I prefer panelnto be natural then I can decide if I want it to be saturated or not. At least give that choose like sammy does , I think lg does but the screen still is from ideal. I envy those sharp panels that China OEMs mounting on the phones. Anyway nothing makes me more annoyed than temporarily trends. Give us an option to choose from!
Not much reading any review on here or articles looking at other tech websites it seems they simply making business out of t, yes they have to earn BUT don't take you reader for fool. It seems just because they have writing skills they can trick us into believe phone B is a an A class phone. Luckily many of us speak out fearlessly and with much furious and I liken a lot . there are people and a lot of them tech educated. Reviewers get easily tempted into era of electronic corruption and do what they asked to do. Trustworthy reviewer is the thing of the past-dinosour.
Just about it.... I think

nebulaoperator said:
Nice rant. I am not developer but I am with you. Got a couple of rants my self. Me to brings apple as example to look at for tey updates and I would say reliability. Both of them matters to me because I don't root and tinker and I want my phone to work well an safe for a few a couple of years at least maybe 3-4 years. I know its xda dev page but the period I had iph6 in truly got to know what is reliable and consistent in respect. So if I pay £500 for a brand new phone I expect it to work accordingly or even £200 worth phone.
O am willing tonpay phone even more than I said but in return I want brilliance O was talking aboit just like buying iPhone.
I hate oersaturated screen tendency and in general pop out colour display trend but that come from my work because I retouch photos and work on calibrated monitor . first of all I prefer panelnto be natural then I can decide if I want it to be saturated or not. At least give that choose like sammy does , I think lg does but the screen still is from ideal. I envy those sharp panels that China OEMs mounting on the phones. Anyway nothing makes me more annoyed than temporarily trends. Give us an option to choose from!
Not much reading any review on here or articles looking at other tech websites it seems they simply making business out of t, yes they have to earn BUT don't take you reader for fool. It seems just because they have writing skills they can trick us into believe phone B is a an A class phone. Luckily many of us speak out fearlessly and with much furious and I liken a lot . there are people and a lot of them tech educated. Reviewers get easily tempted into era of electronic corruption and do what they asked to do. Trustworthy reviewer is the thing of the past-dinosour.
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I think a lot of screen oversaturation stems from consumers responses to reviews and critic description of what the "perfect screen" is. Consumers will agree not based on personal opinion and then OEMs try to emulate the visuals that type of screen renders.
Or Samsung dictates everything since they are the majority seller of device screens.
Thanks for adding to, I appreciate knowing what about the industry bothers other people.

AlkaliV2 said:
I think a lot of screen oversaturation stems from consumers responses to reviews and critic description of what the "perfect screen" is. Consumers will agree not based on personal opinion and then OEMs try to emulate the visuals that type of screen renders.
Or Samsung dictates everything since they are the majority seller of device screens.
Thanks for adding to, I appreciate knowing what about the industry bothers other people.
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Yes indeed. OEM's will push trends that appeal to the mass and mass wants and craves for an eye popping colour utterly unnatural and repelling to my eye.... and when they look at the same image on the computer monitor it suddenly lost all it it's magic and now they want to go back to their phone. My background is related to colour accurate calibrated monitor and this must be the reason I don't see amoled technology so appealing to me but again hundreds of millions of iphone users are perfectly satisfied and not only but happy.
If we take Android market we have bloggers, tech websites, youtube channels. media that are constantly praising that unnatural deviation in colour. Another myth is those magic amoled blacks! No they are not great they and in fact bad because there are no shadow gradient it's just a black blob while IPS panel can't have those perfect 0 pitch blacks but what it can do is gradient from the darkest shadow to the lighter shadow. Watch a film on your phone and pay attention to the dark scene you will know what I mean.
There were 2 ocassions in my life after going round and round in circles, chasing my perfect phone I heard hundred of times : oh this amoled screen is super, it has super accurate colours like never before and though I saw that super duper screen my self I could not help my self but to go again to shop and see if there was anything I missed in my judgment. All I wanted is to run basic mode on a S6 BUT whites on the basic mode looks dull and yellowish while in wider gammut mode it pops out like never before. I checked all the possible panels in the shop. S6 S6+ S6 edge S6 edge + . Yes I am purist and it is hard living for me. I think I am just wasting time in my life My point is your mind will most likely be brainwashed and you will buy perfect amoled screen.
Indeed Samsung will push anything that is related in visual agenda because everyone knows Samsung TV and they awesome. Easy to follow and trust trendy technology or product.
I am so happy Moto choose IPS panels this year because they look marvelous a little on the saturated side but nothing overblown like other OEM's.
I don't try to sell anything I said here to anyone if you prefer other panel that is your choice and I don't have a problem with it.

Battery life
While most manufactures claim weeks of operation the truth is often obscure and bent.
I like your rant.
And I agree with all of it.
Some companies will deny overheating and shove their source code 50 miles deep into their butt.
Some devices are so pretty but have horrible hardware other are so ugly but have brilliant hardware.
I'm so sick of people just blindly buying devices that are a total joke.\
On the note of displays.
It's all pointless unless we have hardware that can drive a 50000000000000000000000K display where 90% of the pixels are so small they could never be seen.
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