Lets have some opinions here - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey all
as the title says lets see which is better Xperia Z or S4 iam not a fanboy but here i will say why iam confused
1-processor: i asked ppl who said that octa=quad in performance only better in battery life as its 2 quad processor (so almost the same)
2-Screen:Super Amoled Vs TFT idk which better actually both appeal to me one is Saturated and the other is natural...we cant forget about bravia engine 2 in Z
3-Camera: Ofcourse all samples say that S4 is better here but when i asked developers they said its only because of OVER COMPRESSION is xperia z which could be fixed on the next update is that true?(as S4 has camera features i see that Xperia Z has HDR Video....so software vs hardware feature.....i think software can be added but hardware cant)
4-sound: No Doubt that S4 is much louder in outer speaker but does it rly matter? for me if i want to listen 2 music i will use headphones which r much better in xperia z in quality
5-Duribility :why shall i talk about this? it already goes for xperia z
6-BATTERY:well....2600 vs 2330.....but 2600 with much sensors and amoled display(which i heard that it uses more energy that TFT but not sure) and 2330 with stamina mode that can be great.........another confusion here
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abokorayem said:
hey all
as the title says lets see which is better Xperia Z or S4 iam not a fanboy but here i will say why iam confused
1-processor: i asked ppl who said that octa=quad in performance only better in battery life as its 2 quad processor (so almost the same)
2-Screen:Super Amoled Vs TFT idk which better actually both appeal to me one is Saturated and the other is natural...we cant forget about bravia engine 2 in Z
3-Camera: Ofcourse all samples say that S4 is better here but when i asked developers they said its only because of OVER COMPRESSION is xperia z which could be fixed on the next update is that true?(as S4 has camera features i see that Xperia Z has HDR Video....so software vs hardware feature.....i think software can be added but hardware cant)
4-sound: No Doubt that S4 is much louder in outer speaker but does it rly matter? for me if i want to listen 2 music i will use headphones which r much better in xperia z in quality
5-Duribility :why shall i talk about this? it already goes for xperia z
6-BATTERY:well....2600 vs 2330.....but 2600 with much sensors and amoled display(which i heard that it uses more energy that TFT but not sure) and 2330 with stamina mode that can be great.........another confusion here
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Firstly, I think that a discussion such as this belongs in a general forum and not one for any device that we are supposed to be discussing.That being said:
1. It would seem that they probably can't get the more powerful quad to play ball in terms of power saving so they are going to have the phone effectively use a core from yesteryear most of the time (if I read things correctly).
2. TFT in the context of this point is a nothing term, it is simply the switching mechanism for the display elements and is probably used in Super Amoled too, the comparison is Super Amoled vs LCD, and if they have a shiny
top layer and you hold them at an angle so that you get strong reflections then they are equally useless.
3. In this day and age if the camera hardware were at fault for the bad pictures then the manufacturer would have serious egg on their face and Sony would surely have spotted the problem during component selection
and chosen differently, all signs point to software, the problem looks like severe compression artifacting from what I have seen.
4. The speaker on the XZ really should have been placed in the lanyard hole to avoid getting totally obscured so easily,
it seems to be loud enough to me but then I don't have to hear it from across a crowded, noisy room like some seem to. Also anyone expecting miracles out of such a pokey little thing really need a dose of reality.
5. Which feels more durable, a phone I have or one that hasn't even been released? an odd thing to be trying to judge.
6. The battery isn't fantastic on the XZ, and is probably a driving factor behind screen type choice (needing to eke out as much screen time as possible with such a thin phone) rather than as some seem to think Sony being cheap
or not knowing how to build a "top tier" phone. Comparison with the S4? The S4 and the discussions of it pre-release are very much alike, they are both nothing but hot air.

1. Samsung's Octa Core is a marketing trick. It's really just a quad-core CPU with 4 "helper cores" like in Tegra SoC. It's not really that useful and doesn't increase performance THAT much. Entropy explained it very clearly in XZ vs others thread. Look at how Tegra is performing - some devs call helper cores "meh" while many of them call them basically useless performancewise.
2. Amoled has better colours, better angles, better blacks. It has burn-in issues though. Both displays have their good and bas sides, there's no definite winner in my opinion.
3. No idea...
4. Obviously. Waterproofing took away some of the volume, but it's enough for ringtone - and people who use their phone to listen to music in public, via the loudspeaker, should be banished from ever going out from their homes.
5. Sorry but there's just no discussion here.
6. Battery life might be a bit better on S4. Amoled does take more energy if you're viewing light images. If you're viewing dark/black images, like the UI, it takes less power. Compared to S2 and S3, battery life on Z will be basically the same as S4.

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[Q] ex note 2 users opinion

Hi guys I've come from a note 2 and enjoying the Xperia z but I have a chance to get a note 2 back and I'm tempted I miss the volume of the note speaker and even the earphone volume is louder I was woundering if you guys think I'm stupid maybe switching back to a note 2 :silly: there also us the screen do you guys think the screen on the note 2 was better
I know I'm going to get mixed views been posted on the Xperia forum but just asking any note 2 users who have now got the Xperia z what there thoughts are
Thanks guys
Nobody will think you're stupid - it's your choice. For me Note 2 is a "no go" device, I've had it, I loved it, but due to sudden death issues, defective eMMC chips, broken gpu drivers ( you'll never get proper CM on it, unfortunately ) and abysmal build quality ( the whole device squeeks when squeezed in hand, back cover bends under your fingers... ) I will never switch to Note again, even though I loved the big screen.
You need to ask yourself a question: do you want better quality, different design and better software/hardware ( according to devs like Entropy or Codeworkx ) - or a 0.3" larger screen, better battery life and a bit louder loudspeaker.
I won't comment on the screen because comparing LCD to AMOLED is pointless. XZ uses 1080p, has superior brightness and sun visibility, but AMOLED has better colours and viewing angles - so you have to decide for yourself.
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Nobody will think you're stupid - it's your choice. For me Note 2 is a "no go" device, I've had it, I loved it, but due to sudden death issues, defective eMMC chips, broken gpu drivers ( you'll never get proper CM on it, unfortunately ) and abysmal build quality ( the whole device squeeks when squeezed in hand, back cover bends under your fingers... ) I will never switch to Note again, even though I loved the big screen.
You need to ask yourself a question: do you want better quality, different design and better software/hardware ( according to devs like Entropy or Codeworkx ) - or a 0.3" larger screen, better battery life and a bit louder loudspeaker.
I won't comment on the screen because comparing LCD to AMOLED is pointless. XZ uses 1080p, has superior brightness and sun visibility, but AMOLED has better colours and viewing angles - so you have to decide for yourself.
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Thanks ya I feel that the Xperia z has a nice screen the girlfriend has the HTC one and I feel it's better then thank to be honest just remember the note 2 screen been so vivid and I watch a lot of YouTube so just didn't know which one would be best to have in the long run lol
so it's true that the Xperia has better hardware and software over the note 2 also does the Xperia have a better audio chip for headphones
thanks
That's the thing with AMOLED displays - they're amazingly vivid. For many people they're actually too vivid, but that's personal.
Hardware on XZ is better because it's been proven again and again that Qualcomm Snapdragon is superior to Samsung's Exynos in many ways - especially in the software support. Sony shares all the stuff devs need to fully support their hardware - Samsung on the other hand... well, let's just say they're not so keen on that.
Thanks Ya think I might end up staying with my Xperia I'll have a look round at upping the volume on the headphones part I know the speaker is a no go and going to get some better headphones too
How it the audio chip in the Xperia is it just as good as the one in the note 2
For me the audio chip has better quality than Note 2's, but I remember it from CM and it was constantly broken so I might have a bad perspective there The volume problem is most likely due to EX300 headphones - they have quite high independence value, therefore are not so loud. Try any other headset, you'll notice the volume will improve greatly. I still use EX300 cause I love the quality.
My personal opinion: stick with XZ
Akiainavas said:
For me the audio chip has better quality than Note 2's, but I remember it from CM and it was constantly broken so I might have a bad perspective there The volume problem is most likely due to EX300 headphones - they have quite high independence value, therefore are not so loud. Try any other headset, you'll notice the volume will improve greatly. I still use EX300 cause I love the quality.
My personal opinion: stick with XZ
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Thanks again I'm looking at getting these http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9074934.htm I know there a bit on the cheap side but do you think it will bump he volume level up to note 2 / htc one levels :victory:
Thanks
brockyneo said:
Thanks again I'm looking at getting these http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9074934.htm I know there a bit on the cheap side but do you think it will bump he volume level up to note 2 / htc one levels :victory:
Thanks
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The jvc are really good earphones for bass heavy listeners..build is really good too
nazrin313 said:
The jvc are really good earphones for bass heavy listeners..build is really good too
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thanks just bought them sound quite good for the price gonna install some sound tweaks now
starting to think i should keep the xperia z over the note 2 :silly:
I know I swap my Note 2 for this badboy & I don't regret any second,minute,hour etc wait a lil bit more if u can im pretty sure 4.2.2 comes out soon
then we all can talk the real deal of this babby :thumbup:
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Z....Note 2?

hey
i wanna choose between xperia z and note II
my main points are :
1-screen :
>resolution: 1920x1080 and 440 PPI for xperia z vs 720x1280 and 267 PPI for note 2.....i know that z is way better here but i heared many reviews saying that the difference isnt noticable by naked eye(i wont go watching with microscope lol) so is that true?(in brief Full HD vs HD)
>saturation in Amoled display in note 2 vs reality in tft display in Xperia z...for me i prefer saturated colours
2-Battery:3100 for note 2 vs 2330 for xperia z....i know note 2 is much bigger...but we have bigger display too...so does it last more than xperia z?
3-Camera :thats really important 4 me....i know that xperia z is 13mp while note 2 is 8 mp...but can ppl who used both phones tell us about that?
4-processor: slightly different i think
5-design:actually...i like both devices....but i hate hearing about Xperia z glass cracks...i saw many pics and threads about that..i dont care about water resistant as i live in adry country NO RAINS AT ALL lol
6-sound: i want 2 hear my incomming calls while iam walking in a busy street
now...lets here ur opinions thanks in advance
note :came here to say that i have to decide myself or like that...i just want to hear opinions ok as iam going to get it from another country
abokorayem said:
hey
i wanna choose between xperia z and note II
my main points are :
1-screen :
>resolution: 1920x1080 and 440 PPI for xperia z vs 720x1280 and 267 PPI for note 2.....i know that z is way better here but i heared many reviews saying that the difference isnt noticable by naked eye(i wont go watching with microscope lol) so is that true?(in brief Full HD vs HD)
>saturation in Amoled display in note 2 vs reality in tft display in Xperia z...for me i prefer saturated colours
2-Battery:3100 for note 2 vs 2330 for xperia z....i know note 2 is much bigger...but we have bigger display too...so does it last more than xperia z?
3-Camera :thats really important 4 me....i know that xperia z is 13mp while note 2 is 8 mp...but can ppl who used both phones tell us about that?
4-processor: slightly different i think
5-design:actually...i like both devices....but i hate hearing about Xperia z glass cracks...i saw many pics and threads about that..i dont care about water resistant as i live in adry country NO RAINS AT ALL lol
6-sound: i want 2 hear my incomming calls while iam walking in a busy street
now...lets here ur opinions thanks in advance
note :came here to say that i have to decide myself or like that...i just want to hear opinions ok as iam going to get it from another country
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1. It is true and not true at the same time. It depends on your eyes and the content you're viewing. For me - the difference is easily noticable, especially when viewing FullHD content. Sony says their "Reality Display" is so crisp you feel like you're there - and believe me, with proper content that is actually true. Another XZ advantage is the fact that it uses full RGB matrix, while Note's AMOLED display used some kind of pen-octa-whatever pixel arrangement which makes it grainy when compared to XZ display. They're both great, the difference in resolution is not that huge - but there is a difference after all. Regarding colours - no LCD display can come even close to AMOLED in terms of colour saturation - is that a bad thing - that's personal, everyone prefers something different.
2. It depends on the rom. If you're going to use touchwiz on Note 2, it's battery will last longer than XZ. It is, however, slightly disappointing as my Note 2 never got more than 8-9 hours of screen time ( advertised 11-12 hours ), and battery life on CM didn't even come close to that. On XZ you'll get 4-5 hours of screen time tops due to different display technology and cpu.
3. XZ camera is by far superior - there's really no place for any kind of discussion here. It's true, some shots made with XZ are "grainy" due to high compression, but they're still much better than what Note 2 can produce. It has nothing to do with the amount of MPs though, just better sensor and software.
4. Qualcomm CPUs are way better than Exynos in terms of performance and stability. There are no security bugs ( at least none that we know about ) that plague whole generations of phones like it happened with S2, S3, Note 1 and Note 2. Also, XZ's processor is quite a bit faster than what you'll find in Note 2 - but don't expect some huge performance gains.
5. Build quality - no comparison here mate. Sorry for that, but Note 2's build quality is cr..p, honestly it's disgusting - the phone squeeks when you squeeze it, the cover bends under your finger, the "chrome" border cracks leaving white plastic underneath visible. Regarding glass cracking - well, if you drop your phone, it might crack - it's the same for every phone with glass display or back - Note 2 will crack too if you drop it.
6. I didn't notice any problems with sound. The loudspeaker is not that loud due to waterproofing, but it's not bad at all. Some people reported problems with call volumes - but there's a simple remedy for that - turn off the voice call equalizer in the setting.
Note that those are my personal opinions. I'd recommend you to buy XZ as a former Note 1 and Note 2 owner. I wasn't happy with the experience i got with Note 2 ( i really loved Note 1 ) and I have to admit that XZ server my 'phablet' needs much better.
Akiainavas said:
1. It is true and not true at the same time. It depends on your eyes and the content you're viewing. For me - the difference is easily noticable, especially when viewing FullHD content. Sony says their "Reality Display" is so crisp you feel like you're there - and believe me, with proper content that is actually true. Another XZ advantage is the fact that it uses full RGB matrix, while Note's AMOLED display used some kind of pen-octa-whatever pixel arrangement which makes it grainy when compared to XZ display. They're both great, the difference in resolution is not that huge - but there is a difference after all. Regarding colours - no LCD display can come even close to AMOLED in terms of colour saturation - is that a bad thing - that's personal, everyone prefers something different.
2. It depends on the rom. If you're going to use touchwiz on Note 2, it's battery will last longer than XZ. It is, however, slightly disappointing as my Note 2 never got more than 8-9 hours of screen time ( advertised 11-12 hours ), and battery life on CM didn't even come close to that. On XZ you'll get 4-5 hours of screen time tops due to different display technology and cpu.
3. XZ camera is by far superior - there's really no place for any kind of discussion here. It's true, some shots made with XZ are "grainy" due to high compression, but they're still much better than what Note 2 can produce. It has nothing to do with the amount of MPs though, just better sensor and software.
4. Qualcomm CPUs are way better than Exynos in terms of performance and stability. There are no security bugs ( at least none that we know about ) that plague whole generations of phones like it happened with S2, S3, Note 1 and Note 2. Also, XZ's processor is quite a bit faster than what you'll find in Note 2 - but don't expect some huge performance gains.
5. Build quality - no comparison here mate. Sorry for that, but Note 2's build quality is cr..p, honestly it's disgusting - the phone squeeks when you squeeze it, the cover bends under your finger, the "chrome" border cracks leaving white plastic underneath visible. Regarding glass cracking - well, if you drop your phone, it might crack - it's the same for every phone with glass display or back - Note 2 will crack too if you drop it.
6. I didn't notice any problems with sound. The loudspeaker is not that loud due to waterproofing, but it's not bad at all. Some people reported problems with call volumes - but there's a simple remedy for that - turn off the voice call equalizer in the setting.
Note that those are my personal opinions. I'd recommend you to buy XZ as a former Note 1 and Note 2 owner. I wasn't happy with the experience i got with Note 2 ( i really loved Note 1 ) and I have to admit that XZ server my 'phablet' needs much better.
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thanks that rly helped
Akiainavas said:
1. It is true and not true at the same time. It depends on your eyes and the content you're viewing. For me - the difference is easily noticable, especially when viewing FullHD content. Sony says their "Reality Display" is so crisp you feel like you're there - and believe me, with proper content that is actually true. Another XZ advantage is the fact that it uses full RGB matrix, while Note's AMOLED display used some kind of pen-octa-whatever pixel arrangement which makes it grainy when compared to XZ display. They're both great, the difference in resolution is not that huge - but there is a difference after all. Regarding colours - no LCD display can come even close to AMOLED in terms of colour saturation - is that a bad thing - that's personal, everyone prefers something different.
2. It depends on the rom. If you're going to use touchwiz on Note 2, it's battery will last longer than XZ. It is, however, slightly disappointing as my Note 2 never got more than 8-9 hours of screen time ( advertised 11-12 hours ), and battery life on CM didn't even come close to that. On XZ you'll get 4-5 hours of screen time tops due to different display technology and cpu.
3. XZ camera is by far superior - there's really no place for any kind of discussion here. It's true, some shots made with XZ are "grainy" due to high compression, but they're still much better than what Note 2 can produce. It has nothing to do with the amount of MPs though, just better sensor and software.
4. Qualcomm CPUs are way better than Exynos in terms of performance and stability. There are no security bugs ( at least none that we know about ) that plague whole generations of phones like it happened with S2, S3, Note 1 and Note 2. Also, XZ's processor is quite a bit faster than what you'll find in Note 2 - but don't expect some huge performance gains.
5. Build quality - no comparison here mate. Sorry for that, but Note 2's build quality is cr..p, honestly it's disgusting - the phone squeeks when you squeeze it, the cover bends under your finger, the "chrome" border cracks leaving white plastic underneath visible. Regarding glass cracking - well, if you drop your phone, it might crack - it's the same for every phone with glass display or back - Note 2 will crack too if you drop it.
6. I didn't notice any problems with sound. The loudspeaker is not that loud due to waterproofing, but it's not bad at all. Some people reported problems with call volumes - but there's a simple remedy for that - turn off the voice call equalizer in the setting.
Note that those are my personal opinions. I'd recommend you to buy XZ as a former Note 1 and Note 2 owner. I wasn't happy with the experience i got with Note 2 ( i really loved Note 1 ) and I have to admit that XZ server my 'phablet' needs much better.
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What they said.
The most reliable phone both in performance and battery I've owned. Started with iPhone, last was GS3.
I just know it's going to work all day and still have power at 11:30 at night.
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my main point that will make me not buy the xperia z is the cracks..........it heats due to playing games or so..thats normal but i heared that if u put it on ur dest which will be quite cold the glass might crack..........also if i dropped it....plastic is cheap to be replaced unlike xperia z glass...what u think?
I'm sorry but those claims are bull**** or early defective batches, please don't believe those, there is lots of happy people with this phone that haven't had a problem. It's a well built phone. There is someone that even did oc in a piece of ice to keep it cool. If normal glass doesn't crack like that how is tempered glass going to.
This thread could help you decide, have a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40733694#post40733694
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abokorayem said:
hey
i wanna choose between xperia z and note II
my main points are :
1-screen :
>resolution: 1920x1080 and 440 PPI for xperia z vs 720x1280 and 267 PPI for note 2.....i know that z is way better here but i heared many reviews saying that the difference isnt noticable by naked eye(i wont go watching with microscope lol) so is that true?(in brief Full HD vs HD)
>saturation in Amoled display in note 2 vs reality in tft display in Xperia z...for me i prefer saturated colours
2-Battery:3100 for note 2 vs 2330 for xperia z....i know note 2 is much bigger...but we have bigger display too...so does it last more than xperia z?
3-Camera :thats really important 4 me....i know that xperia z is 13mp while note 2 is 8 mp...but can ppl who used both phones tell us about that?
4-processor: slightly different i think
5-design:actually...i like both devices....but i hate hearing about Xperia z glass cracks...i saw many pics and threads about that..i dont care about water resistant as i live in adry country NO RAINS AT ALL lol
6-sound: i want 2 hear my incomming calls while iam walking in a busy street
now...lets here ur opinions thanks in advance
note :came here to say that i have to decide myself or like that...i just want to hear opinions ok as iam going to get it from another country
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Here's my experience...I have/had both
1. Yes. I am not a super picky bird-eye person. When I tried to see a 720p movie and 1080p movie on both devices with such the small screens, honestly I couldn't tell the differences.We are not talking about 40 inches screen...However, you do will feel the screen on Note II is way bigger than the Z because Note II is true 5.5 inches. But the Z is 5 inches with a bottom 0.3 inches of area as the soft keys (back. home, and small app). That makes the Z's displayable screen even smaller. I really miss my Note II's bigger screen.
2. The battery life on both are similar. I used them for normal web browsing, music, email, texting, not much talking on the phone tho. The battery can last til around 9-10pm with a overnite full charge. Bottom line the Note II can change battery that creates a huge advantage.
3. Camera on Z is noticably better than Note II. However the startup time takes a few seconds (more than 3 sec usually) to load the camera app. Note II only needs less than 2 sec. So if you are the type of guys who needs to capture the quick moment all the time, the Z might disappointed you.
4. The Z is a bit faster running and launching the apps comparing to Note II.
5. It all comes down to personal taste. I don't like round corner too much and that's the major reason I am using the Z now. Also one note that with my asian small hand, I could hardly only use one hand to unlock my phone on the Note II, but Z is ok. I have numeric lock on my phone and that's my company email's policy. So if you have smaller hand and need to use numeric pin to unlock the phone, Z is easier.
6. Note II is better.
One side note though, the major reason I switched from Note II to Z is because my Note II died after 2 months of usage...I thought I hit the sudden death syndrome but actually when I took it to the services centre the guy told me the screen was dead. I got it fixed and sold it right away.
Happy hunting!
rcyh said:
Here's my experience...I have/had both
3. Camera on Z is noticably better than Note II. However the startup time takes a few seconds (more than 3 sec usually) to load the camera app. Note II only needs less than 2 sec. So if you are the type of guys who needs to capture the quick moment all the time, the Z might disappointed you.
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Please note that the camera app from the XZ only starts up slow the first time you run it.
So if you plan to use your camera run it before hand. After that when you run it, it opens within a second.
If you reboot your phone you will need to do this step again.
Dsteppa said:
Please note that the camera app from the XZ only starts up slow the first time you run it.
So if you plan to use your camera run it before hand. After that when you run it, it opens within a second.
If you reboot your phone you will need to do this step again.
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That's a good tip! Thanks!
rly thanks all guys i appreciate ur help
i think i will pick xperia z i think its better for me the only point that i worried of is the cracks just go to Xperia z support on sony official site and WOW rly many threads about crack here crack there but i think i will try my luck
Thanks again all ^_^
abokorayem said:
hey
i wanna choose between xperia z and note II
my main points are :
1-screen :
>resolution: 1920x1080 and 440 PPI for xperia z vs 720x1280 and 267 PPI for note 2.....i know that z is way better here but i heared many reviews saying that the difference isnt noticable by naked eye(i wont go watching with microscope lol) so is that true?(in brief Full HD vs HD)
>saturation in Amoled display in note 2 vs reality in tft display in Xperia z...for me i prefer saturated colours
2-Battery:3100 for note 2 vs 2330 for xperia z....i know note 2 is much bigger...but we have bigger display too...so does it last more than xperia z?
3-Camera :thats really important 4 me....i know that xperia z is 13mp while note 2 is 8 mp...but can ppl who used both phones tell us about that?
4-processor: slightly different i think
5-design:actually...i like both devices....but i hate hearing about Xperia z glass cracks...i saw many pics and threads about that..i dont care about water resistant as i live in adry country NO RAINS AT ALL lol
6-sound: i want 2 hear my incomming calls while iam walking in a busy street
now...lets here ur opinions thanks in advance
note :came here to say that i have to decide myself or like that...i just want to hear opinions ok as iam going to get it from another country
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1. 1080p vs 720p....noticeable but not really a game changer
2. the note 2 has 5-6 hours screen-on with everything on dont even compare it to the xperia z because XZ will not last half as long. (yes i know depending on usage)
3. MP is not really important, go research on this. IMO Note 2 will win because XZ got too much processing, and I understand why XZ do this, they want the file to be small in order to upload it to FB quicker.
4. in benchmark its a world of difference, in real world use not much
5.XZ win hands down...the rarity of the device in the U.S market is another reason why i pick the phone
6. sound. you can hear it after you flash puremod, I havent test stock so not sure but i'm sure you can.
You cant even compare this two devices..
Its like comparing an m3 e92 with a simple a5 or something..
M3 is the z
Send from my awesome 1080p

[Q] Xperia SP vs Galaxy S3 Real Life comparisson

Basically this thread is specifically towards previous owners of Galaxy S3, that are now owners of Xperia SP, or people who have both and can have a "real" comparisson rather than a bunch of review sites that give too much into details, that dont affect you most of the time.
Battery life is completely subject to how you use your device, if it is unlocked with a custom kernel etc etc, so this doesn't really matter since both are around the same battery stats.
Benchmarks etc. This is again useless since one has 4 cores that are older than the 2 cores of the SP. Again these are dependant on how the HW is used and in what way.
Photos. I am not a instagram user, and I dont think i ever had more than 100 pics on any of my phones.
So... The questions that really bug me.
Are the soft keys on the Xperia SP (home, back, menu) an annoyance when playing games, texting, browsing etc.? I found myself pressing all of those on my Xperia Active several times and it pissed me off. I expect this to be less of a hassle on the S3 given the fact that its only got 2 soft keys and they are all beyond the screen.
Is sunlight legibility on both up to par? If not, which one is better? I could go with a matte screen protector but that screws up the colors a bit.
The reason im leaning more to the S3 is the already huge development scene on it, and the immense number of accessories for it, whereas for most Sony devices the Cases etc are very limited. P.S. im very clumsy, even the Active fell lots of times but never actually broke.
So, for the owners or long time users of BOTH devices, which one is better for you? Would you go back to the S3? Or are you more than happy with the SP?
I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
Sent from my Xperia SP using xda premium
I am currently using Xperia SP and my Big Bro is using galaxy s3 and we usually compare both the device in everything.
I can say that Xperia SP is a fairly good device but S3 is also a very good device for the price at which it is offered in the country today. S3 scores above Xperia SP in following things:
>Fairly better screen and viewing angles than X SP (super AmOled)
>Marginally Better battery backup
>16gb internal memory for apps and games (X SP has Half)
>much better camera, both front and back (has video call too)
In real life, i consider SGS3 can be a good option if budget can go for that.
Looks of X SP is also not that good but imo better than sgs3
Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
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Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
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SO finally u bought Xperia SP..
For how much did u get?
Got it sorta pricey, but I due to my recent problems with the Xperia Active, I decided to get it from here. It cost 360 Euros. I could find it in the UK for around 300, but then if something went wrong, I would have to pay 30 euros every time it had to go and come back to me from Greece to the UK.
First impressions are nice, I really like the floating touch. But i need to get used to it And yes, the soft keys do not get in the way, because the fingers kind of arch over them when you have it on landscape.
I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
I think your question is in the wrong section completely Try looking in the S3 phone section.
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I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
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If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
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If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
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Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
rajeevxperia said:
Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
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Most games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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Must games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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U r correct. Me also heared that rumor. But i dont really care about future updates.. I will not keep any mobile more than a Year...
Which I want to choose: GS3 or XSP??
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
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I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
Sent from my Xperia SP using xda premium
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According to Quadrant, 3D-mark and Antutu, and general percieved performance, the Adreno 320 is Faster than the Mali400 in the S3 and the Adreno 225 in the US S3,
Linpack shows approximately the Dual core Krait CPU with Double the CPU MFLOPs, compared to the slower Quad core Cortex A9 Exynos CPU in the S3.
but don't get me wrong, the S3 is still fast enpough to run any game out there at the moment.
Gone of Samsung, due to their Super Amoled screens and build quality.
as fo Not being able to see anything on the SP, dunno what your talking about, the screen is clearly much brighter than the Super Amoled screens and easily visible during Sunny days.
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asman.kr said:
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
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Both are good performing phones,
as for the defects you mention, never experienced any of them.
the SP lasts longer on standby, due to stamina mode and a bigger battery,
can't comment on the S3, but judging by the Superamoled screen it probably has a longer screen on time,
the Glass screen on any phone CAN break if it falls down from a height or onto a sharp or hard surface etc,
Manufacturers are yet to give us a Indestructable screen, :silly:
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I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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Depends on what you want! i had to choose between these two phones as well i chose the xperia sp because of the build quality: metal vs plastic and performance wich is better then S3 I think the support behind this phone is reasonable with a soon upcoming 4.3 build
S3 without a second thought
S3 is a very high end phone which was released with an introductory price of above $600.
Samsung packed the best of its features into it.
It has won numerous awards and it was once the most bought android phone in the world.
The body of xperia sp is very tempting, but trust me, it is the internals that matter wayy more.
The back camera on the Xperia SP is very bad. The photos have noise, red-blue-greenish dots all around when zoomed. I clicked many photos myself on the mobile store. The 0.3 mp front camera is so horrible, that I'd rather not comment on it.
On the other hand, the back camera on the S3 is spectacular with no weak points to it. Superb clarity and there's no noise. The 1.9 MP front camera clicked some really beautiful shots.
The music quality on Xperia SP is good but not if you use walkman. The walkman's clearbass option increases the bass, however the volume of the sound is weirdly lowered at different points of the songs. This happens on all sony phones only. It's weird sony hasn't fixed it.
Use poweramp however, and you'll love all your songs.
The S3's sound quality is superb and it is an ideal phone for audiophiles. You can check the audio lab test results in this genuine GSMarena review -
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p8.php
The battery on my S3 is amazing. I dont know about xperia sp, but after hearing from my friends, it is equally good.
Gaming on the S3 is superb as well. I have never seen any of my games lag on the s3. Xperia SP's snapdragon cpu is also very much ideal for gaming.
So the decision is yours
Ram wise the S3 is better but then If Were you guys just sell your SP save up some cash and buy the Nexus 5 because it is clearly the better one here
but nonetheless SP is better than that older S3...don't get so tempted by that bigger SUPER LCD2 screen it runs on older ARM hardware compared to the newer krait architecture our devices have
GPU wise the SP is still better and besides sound could easily be improved by installing Viper4Android so its no big deal

Xperia Z Discontinued?

Just thought I'd start this thread as I think the Xperia Z may be being discontinued, at least for the time being.
I bought a new Xperia Z handset in May. I made a clear choice between this and the Samsung S4, mainly for two reasons. The first being the overall design. It looks a much nicer/sexier phone. The second being the water resistance. I use the phone in the bath and I go fishing a lot. Seemed an obvious choice really.
When I first started using the phone, everything worked perfectly fine and I was very happy with my purchase. Except for one thing. I was experiencing the WiFi drop out problem. If I was in my living room (where my WiFi router is) it connected without issue. If I tried in other rooms, I would get a low connection and it would drop in and out. This bug has been well documented over several forums (without any response from Sony unsurprisingly), so I was a little reassured that it was not my phone specific issue, and a lot of people stating that it will likely be resolved with firmware updated. Two updates later and I was still having the issue.
I decided to take the phone back to Argos (where I purchased it) to see if I could get a replacement and hope that it would not have the issue. They were quite happy to replace it on the grounds that it is a faulty phone, however they didn't have any in at this particular store. The guy done a search and found one (and only one) in a store some 50 miles away. I asked if they could order one in for me, so he had a look and he said they can no longer get any. I thought this was very odd. A store chain the size of Argos and they can no longer get a top of the range phone only released 6 months or so ago? I asked if they knew a reason why, he said he didn't but if the error I'm experiencing is common and they have had a load returned then Argos may have chosen to no longer stock them.
This does not bode well for Sony at all. If Argos are taking this stance then I would not be surprised to see other outlets do the same.
I was left with a choice to either carry on with the phone and hope that at some point in the future the bug will be resolved, downgrade to another model, get my money back or pay the extra and get an S4. I decided to go with the S4, a decision I was not entirely happy with as, other than the WiFi bug, I was very happy with the Xperia Z, but I could not continue getting frustrated with the WiFi dropping out.
For those interested in the differences between the two phones, from an end users perspective and not a techno guru reviewer, there are a lot of similarities between the two. There are obviously pros and cons for each. The S4 is a lot lighter, and the external speaker is fantastic. It's design is a little uglier and the rear case is very slippery. The Xperia Z just looks nicer, looks less like a toy. They're just as responsive as each other, both take great photos/videos. The Xperia Z keyboard is much better than the S4, but that may be me needing to get used to it.
Given the choice, if the WiFi problem wasn't prevalent, I would definitely have the Xperia Z back. Hopefully Sony will pull there socks up.
maybe the rumor about a refresh with S800 processor and triluminos screen is true then.
Congrats on your new S4...
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xperia z is not discontinued (confirmed with sony executive), funny you judged that. though x-reality for mobile is coming for xperia z
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i think this SteveJustice is probably a samsung bot desperately to attract sales as clearly sony is dominating and samsung s4 having a hard time getting sales now.
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xperia z is not discontinued (confirmed with sony executive), funny you judged that. though x-reality for mobile is coming for xperia z
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i think this SteveJustice is probably a samsung bot desperately to attract sales as clearly sony is dominating and samsung s4 having a hard time getting sales now.
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What? I gave pros and cons for both devices, and clearly stated that had I not had the problems with my Xperia Z then I would still have it. Not to mention I went to the store to get a replacement, not a different phone.
Even if the phone isn't being discontinued, it still begs the question as to why Argos are not getting any more in.
And where did you speak to this Sony executive by the way? Just happened to be passing in the street?
I have both the S4 and Xperia Z and your right they are very similar to each other and both have their pros and cons and let me just give a short of what I think are cons of the xperia Z compared to the S4 and funnily enough they are mostly to do with volume.
The Z speaker is lower in volume than s4, headphone volume is slightly lower and so is earpiece volume, S4 is a bit clearer aswell in earpiece, Z wifi is weaker and obviously due to a smaller battery, battery doesn't last as long. Camera/video I would say the S4 edges it but not by much
The Z is better to look at and and im sorry all those saying the screen on the Z is rubbish need to go to their opticians as the screen on the Z looks much sharper and better looking than the S4, not as good as the one on the HTC One but not far off, also the Z looks better than the S4 not that the S4 is ugly as I love the look of the S4 too, the Zs UI and keyboard etc are all better, the Z is just as smooth as the s4 if not smoother. TBH if the speaker was louder, earpiece was louder and audio volume was louder and wifi signal strength was stronger I would say the Z is the best phone on the market atm. The Z has restored my faith in sony as when I had the xperia S and T last year I wasn't happy atall.
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I have both the S4 and Xperia Z and your right they are very similar to each other and both have their pros and cons and let me just give a short of what I think are cons of the xperia Z compared to the S4 and funnily enough they are mostly to do with volume.
The Z speaker is lower in volume than s4, headphone volume is slightly lower and so is earpiece volume, S4 is a bit clearer aswell in earpiece, Z wifi is weaker and obviously due to a smaller battery, battery doesn't last as long. Camera/video I would say the S4 edges it but not by much
The Z is better to look at and and im sorry all those saying the screen on the Z is rubbish need to go to their opticians as the screen on the Z looks much sharper and better looking than the S4, not as good as the one on the HTC One but not far off, also the Z looks better than the S4 not that the S4 is ugly as I love the look of the S4 too, the Zs UI and keyboard etc are all better, the Z is just as smooth as the s4 if not smoother. TBH if the speaker was louder, earpiece was louder and audio volume was louder and wifi signal strength was stronger I would say the Z is the best phone on the market atm. The Z has restored my faith in sony as when I had the xperia S and T last year I wasn't happy atall.
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I have a XZ and the wife a S4 and tbh there isn't much between the two.
Screen: Alot of song and dance is made about the samoled 1080p panel, and its obvious why the blacks are amazing but that's at the cost of the whites which are quite common on webpages (xz wins in whites). The viewing angles are better on the S4 although not as much as the reviews seemed to make out, one area where the XZ is better is the visibility in sunlight.
Winner: Close call id give it to the S4 sometimes colours seem a bit too saturated with XZ but not much in it overall.
Sound: The loudspeaker on the S4 rapes the XZ due to the XZ's waterproof ability. In call is slightly louder on the S4 but not by much, the S3 was amazing for in call volume.
Winner: S4 by a mile
Camera: Both use the same chip but different software is implemented and some hardware is different I believe (im no expert so could be wrong).
Anyway the XZ originally was a bit slow but with the latest update is on par with the S4 if not better, just took two pictures (night here in England) and the XZ was clearly better (both on auto, flash off). (uploaded both pics to pc for analysis)
Winner: Close call was about to say the XZ due to my rather short samples but im not a expert and reviewers praise the S4 so Id say a draw.
Battery: Both phones used differently so hard to compare. Depends on alot of variables such as area used, syncs, etc. I can't do a proper review of it but my amateur opinion says the S4 is better, more screen time but that could be because the wife is mostly on wifi at home. Anyway there's not a great deal if the S4 is better its not by more then 10%,
Winner: S4
Design: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so not much too say there, material wise though the XZ is better and it feels more solid. The S4 has the advantage of removable battery and is more comfortable to use in the hand. Then again the XZ is dust and water proof and has soft keys.
Winner: XZ
Software: Id say stock xperia is definitely better then stock touchwiz based on design but then again that's user preference. I love the smart stay feature in touchwiz though and the vibrate when you pick up for messages/put phone to head to call from messages.
Xperia has the Bravia Engine though and as we mostly view photos on our phone these days that's a neat trick. Overall both are running 4.22 and rock solid so not much in it.
Winner: Draw.
Overall score: S4 wins 3. XZ 1. And 2 draws.
Conclusion: Both great phones and not much too seperate them, go check them out in store before you buy either and see which one you prefer. At the same time check out the HTC One...
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I have a XZ and the wife a S4 and tbh there isn't much between the two.
Screen: Alot of song and dance is made about the samoled 1080p panel, and its obvious why the blacks are amazing but that's at the cost of the whites which are quite common on webpages (xz wins in whites). The viewing angles are better on the S4 although not as much as the reviews seemed to make out, one area where the XZ is better is the visibility in sunlight.
Winner: Close call id give it to the S4 sometimes colours seem a bit too saturated with XZ but not much in it overall.
Sound: The loudspeaker on the S4 rapes the XZ due to the XZ's waterproof ability. In call is slightly louder on the S4 but not by much, the S3 was amazing for in call volume.
Winner: S4 by a mile
Camera: Both use the same chip but different software is implemented and some hardware is different I believe (im no expert so could be wrong).
Anyway the XZ originally was a bit slow but with the latest update is on par with the S4 if not better, just took two pictures (night here in England) and the XZ was clearly better (both on auto, flash off). (uploaded both pics to pc for analysis)
Winner: Close call was about to say the XZ due to my rather short samples but im not a expert and reviewers praise the S4 so Id say a draw.
Battery: Both phones used differently so hard to compare. Depends on alot of variables such as area used, syncs, etc. I can't do a proper review of it but my amateur opinion says the S4 is better, more screen time but that could be because the wife is mostly on wifi at home. Anyway there's not a great deal if the S4 is better its not by more then 10%,
Winner: S4
Design: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so not much too say there, material wise though the XZ is better and it feels more solid. The S4 has the advantage of removable battery and is more comfortable to use in the hand. Then again the XZ is dust and water proof and has soft keys.
Winner: XZ
Software: Id say stock xperia is definitely better then stock touchwiz based on design but then again that's user preference. I love the smart stay feature in touchwiz though and the vibrate when you pick up for messages/put phone to head to call from messages.
Xperia has the Bravia Engine though and as we mostly view photos on our phone these days that's a neat trick. Overall both are running 4.22 and rock solid so not much in it.
Winner: Draw.
Overall score: S4 wins 3. XZ 1. And 2 draws.
Conclusion: Both great phones and not much too seperate them, go check them out in store before you buy either and see which one you prefer. At the same time check out the HTC One...
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Great honest comparison mate :thumbup:
You forgot performance , s4 wins here thx to s600 ( specifically gaming )
Battery is much better since s4 gets average 4:30/5 hrs screen time. While xz barely makes it 3:30.
Anyway these 2 vs one are pretty much weaker in every aspect.
Speakers ate better and louder then on both
Headphones are also better with more quality then on both , also louder.
Screen is better by much then on both. ( tho amoled has better blacks ) also better viewing angle , brighter , and better sunlight visibility.
System speed is much better then on both. ( even faster then n4 on 4.3 )
Design .. I'd say only xz and one are pretty , I'd call this one personal preference.
Build quality .. I guess we agree aluminum is more premium ( + serves as a heat sink so one is much cooler then both )
Camera is actually better then on xz after the recent updates both in day light and dark , also the camera is much snappier then both , as for video neither comes close to one thx to the ois and hdr mics
Speaker for calls is also better , again stereo and it's very loud and clear.
Front camera is also better then on both + wide angle
Battery is on par with s4 if not better , at least in my case I perform much better then the cousins s4. , the other cousin with xz usually gets around 2:50/ 3:20 screen time. outside. While my average is 6 hrs screen time with heavier usage .
I guess this would be my 2 cents.
Btw my cousins have s4 and xz while my friend has n4 , pretty much surrounded with mobile geeks lol. So this comes from the tests I made with them , if you guys need some screen shots , or pic samples lemme know.
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Great honest comparison mate :thumbup:
You forgot performance , s4 wins here thx to s600 ( specifically gaming )
Battery is much better since s4 gets average 4:30/5 hrs screen time. While xz barely makes it 3:30.
Anyway these 2 vs one are pretty much weaker in every aspect.
Speakers ate better and louder then on both
Headphones are also better with more quality then on both , also louder.
Screen is better by much then on both. ( tho amoled has better blacks ) also better viewing angle , brighter , and better sunlight visibility.
System speed is much better then on both. ( even faster then n4 on 4.3 )
Design .. I'd say only xz and one are pretty , I'd call this one personal preference.
Build quality .. I guess we agree aluminum is more premium ( + serves as a heat sink so one is much cooler then both )
Camera is actually better then on xz after the recent updates both in day light and dark , also the camera is much snappier then both , as for video neither comes close to one thx to the ois and hdr mics
Speaker for calls is also better , again stereo and it's very loud and clear.
Front camera is also better then on both + wide angle
Battery is on par with s4 if not better , at least in my case I perform much better then the cousins s4. , the other cousin with xz usually gets around 2:50/ 3:20 screen time. outside. While my average is 6 hrs screen time with heavier usage .
I guess this would be my 2 cents.
Btw my cousins have s4 and xz while my friend has n4 , pretty much surrounded with mobile geeks lol. So this comes from the tests I made with them , if you guys need some screen shots , or pic samples lemme know.
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Having had the HTC one earlier in the year, three things i disagree on are
1) audio is actually better on the s4, but the HTC one is louder
2) battery life on HTC is not better than S4 and i certianly wouldnt call it close either especially if we include standby time though it is better than the xperia z.
3) as for looks i really do not like the fact that the One has the htc sign inbetween the buttons i think thats ugly, i think all three phones look good, if i was to choose an order it would be XZ, S4 then One.
The main reasons for getting the s4 and selling the one was better battery and memory card slot as i ran out of memory on the one and i seriously hope htc change this as 25gb isnt enough. Also while the one is loud i feel it lacks the bass of the s4 and XZ, also i find the custom eqaulizers better than simply beats on or off

Should i switch from Xperia Z to Xperia Z1?

So i have an Xperia Z, and i'm thinking of upgrading to a Z1, but i don't know if it's a worthwhile investment.
I am more or less satisfied with my Z, camera is a miss in some more difficult situations, but other than that it does what i want it do.
Bassically i want to know 3 things;
1) Does the S800 make much of a difference in real usage compared to S4 Pro?
I have very high end games on my Z, like MW4, Riptide 2, Asphalt 8, and in my opinion they are as good as they can get, but maybe i am wrong.
2) How good is the screen?
3) How good is the camera, in your honest opinion? The more in-depth answer, the better!
I know i could read reviews, but they are running older software, so i think image quality might have changed over time.
Thank you for your answers, in advance.
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1) Does the S800 make much of a difference in real usage compared to S4 Pro?
I have very high end games on my Z, like MW4, Riptide 2, Asphalt 8, and in my opinion they are as good as they can get, but maybe i am wrong.
2) How good is the screen?
3) How good is the camera, in your honest opinion? The more in-depth answer, the better!
I know i could read reviews, but they are running older software, so i think image quality might have changed over time.
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I love my Z1 but in my honest opinion, I would probably not upgrade yet unless you are a diehard Sony fan or definitely can't wait for next September or so. But I'll try to answer your questions best I can:
1) It makes enough of a difference to show in games but doesn't really show huge improvements in normal usage. If your Z can play the games you have without hickups, then those games aren't a reason to upgrade to S800. This of course may or may not be different for future and upcoming games but for now both chips can play those games just fine. If you are thinking of upgrading, I would probably not list this as #1 reason unless you want a more future-proof device (and more are coming out during and after Q1).
2) The screen is a bit of hit and miss. It seems Sony is using at least two if not more types of panels and some of them are better than others. If you get a good one, the screen is excellent and very enjoyable. However the lower-graded panels seem to have a variety of issues from yellow hue and bad viewing angles to even problems with the actual touchscreen. The only way to avoid these issues is to read about them and then try to examine the unit you are going to purchase at a shop. I would personally not recommend getting the Z1 online for this reason. I also had to get my touchscreen fixed because of touch issues but after repairing it under warranty it works perfectly and I am not suffering from the yellow hue issue.
3) The camera is good but the software is lacking. To be more precise the automatic setting that the camera starts with (called Superior Auto or SA) is extremely hit or miss and in many cases produces sub-par pictures. This will be an issue if you want to quickly take the device out and snap pictures without touching settings. The pros on the other hand are that the manual settings are versatile and by using manual you can take as good or better pictures than any other cameraphone on the market right now not counting the new high end Lumia's with their pureview technology. There is hope that the camera software can be improved with future updates but this is what the current situation is like. As for my own experience, I'm still getting used to the manual settings and am not yet entirely satisfied with my pictures. I'm getting the hang of it though and they are showing some small improvement - my biggest challenge is low light (100% of the time in winter for me) and noise/grain.
As of now if I was you I would wait. There are new models coming out from Samsung and later from HTC and possibly other manufacturers and the rumors are quite promising. There is some inconsistency with the Z1s that are sold and you really need to be able to examine your unit prior to purchase unless you rely on getting lucky. Also it's likely that later on in Q3 or Q4 Sony will announce the successor to the Z1 which will probably be a bigger leap from the Xperia Z that you have right now. This is just my opinion and I hope it helps.
OFFTOPIC: Also don't be surprised if your thread goes PUFF as the mods don't allow comparison threads and I'm not sure will they count this as one.
1) It's definitely faster. But with 4.3, Z is already fast enough IMO.
2) I actually prefer Z's screen. Z1's has got slightly better viewing angle but Z's colours are better IMO. And Z has got white balance settings, Z1 doesn't.
3) I don't see that much difference between the two, to be honest. But Z1 can create much better bokeh. And when it's set to 20 MP, a slightly blurry photos may still look good when uploaded on web at lower resolution (e.g. Facebook's 2048x1536 pixels). Apart from that, they seem to produce similar looking photos, esp in terms of colour tones, contrast, noise levels, etc.
All in all, I don't think you should upgrade now. It's already a bit late for you to do that. Better wait for the 2014 flagship (Z1's successor).
I've owned the Z and I had a love/hate relationship with it for the following reasons:
-Battery : It sucked. No really, I've tried and tried to make it last at least a day and never succeeded. Yes, I'm a heavy user, but when I switched to the G2 I never ran out of juice with the same use.
-Screen: The screen on the Z1, no matter what these people are saying, is MUCH better than the Z. Not just in terms of viewing angles and washed out colors (which obviously have improved remarkably), also in terms of brightness and color reproduction.
-Lag: The S800 is a beast, after using the G2 I knew for a fact that any phone I buy next would absolutely have to have it. In real world use, its snappy as hell and even under the most intense 3D gaming and heavy multitasking it never skips a beat.
-Camera: the camera on the Z1 has improved after the latest update, and for me, the rule of thumb is quite simple. Use Superior Auto for night shots and Manual 20 MP the rest of the time and you won't need much tweaking to create some absolutely brilliant photos. The Z no matter what I tried It wouldn't hold a candle to the Z1.
This is my opinion having used both phones and a G2 - the upgrade is welllll worth it.
I'd definitely wait for 2014 flagships
few reason why I didnt get the Z and got the Z1
1. Z covered headphone jacks... really annoying to take out the flaps everytime you want to listen
2. battery life sucks
3. mediocre camera... (I expect sony to revolutionize smartphone camera at every flagship, same with that they did on Xperia S, first 12 mp camera)
which all the above was resolved at Z1...
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2 things:
1. if you are a person who has the cash power to upgrade your handset every year? then do it.
2. if you are a person who upgrades rarely and have to buy the absolute value for money handset every time (every only 2-3 years)... then don't do it, wait for the successor by end of the year.
Ask yourself, do you really need a new phone? Does your Xperia Z not perform as you like?
I would strongly recommend that you wait for few days until the CES (tech conference) ends. for the past few years sony has revealed new flagship during this conference (they might or might not do this year because the Z1 was released not to long ago). But you should wait and see if they release anything interesting for you.
regarding your question, The Z1 is an upgraded Z in almost every aspect including screen, battery, camera, chipset... etc and is more future proof because it has newer chipset and because it was released later so it will be supported for longer. However, if you are satisfied with your Z, I suggest that you wait for 2014 H2 flagships (not even the one that might be released in H1) which will be using chipset based on ARMv8 architecture because this will be a big step forward in the mobile industry. Chipset is the most important part of the phone because better chipset means better performance, gaming experience, camera, overall experience ...etc
thank you for opinions. I decided not to do the upgrade from the Z to the Z1, and i will wait to see what 2014 will bring.
i admit that the camera was really the singular compelling reason for me to switch, my Z does good pictures, except ones w/ bad light. but i can live with that.
hopefully the new flagships won't be as big as the reports are predicting. the Z is right at the edge of my comfort zone in terms of size, and i have big hands mind you.

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