For years now I have been driven to frustration at the large number of iPhone compatible accessories. iPhones didnt share the same spec on headests as other manufacturers being one of the main issues which severly limited me on purchasing headphones especially as my mobile phone is my primary poersonal music device.
Last night I conducted my first phone call but I was using my old ARC S headset as I had not got around to unpacking the T one. I noticed that this didnt work and give a similar response to how an iPhone compaitble headset would work in my ARC S. Does this mean that I finally have a device which I can use the compaitble with iPhone headest with therefore massivley opening my options?
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For years now I have been driven to frustration at the large number of iPhone compatible accessories. iPhones didnt share the same spec on headests as other manufacturers being one of the main issues which severly limited me on purchasing headphones especially as my mobile phone is my primary poersonal music device.
Last night I conducted my first phone call but I was using my old ARC S headset as I had not got around to unpacking the T one. I noticed that this didnt work and give a similar response to how an iPhone compaitble headset would work in my ARC S. Does this mean that I finally have a device which I can use the compaitble with iPhone headest with therefore massivley opening my options?
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I have never tried any iPhone compatbile headsets.
The headset from a nokia n900 used to work fine on the Arc S and when I tried them on the T, they gave a messy sound. So i guess the specs have changed. :s
ruwsoft said:
I have never tried any iPhone compatbile headsets.
The headset from a nokia n900 used to work fine on the Arc S and when I tried them on the T, they gave a messy sound. So i guess the specs have changed. :s
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Yes the specs have changed. The new NXT handsets (T, S, U, V, P etc) use the same spec as the iPhone. It's a step in the right direction (I guess).
I had an Arc S and bought from Sony XBA-1IP (the iPhone model) headsets and unfortunately the phone did not recognize the accessory at all. I was blown away like..how come a new generation of headphones wouldn't work at all (not to mention the inline remote) with a Sony phone? So this is for you to make an idea that it is possible not to work either on these phones if the accessories are made for iPhone, not even from Sony.
Apple changed the connector layout again on the newest model. iPhone accessories are not cross compatible either from previous devices.
Apple is the sucker, not Sony. Sony adheres to the standard, although they did change from the previously used standard to the other one (theres two) with the newest line of phones. AFAIK only Samsung and Nokia are still on that other standard, all other major players have done the switch already.
It only affects additional functionality to headphones, such as call answering and volume control buttons. Audio routing is the same on all standards and even on Apple devices.
Now that micro$oft is acquiring nokia does this mean the haac microphone technology that stmicroelectronics sold to htc early this year will never make it into future non-nokia devices? I know that agreement between nokia and stmicro was until the middle of 2014 but with ms taking over the nokia smartphone division in this same year I doubt they would want to license out anything to potential competitors. I guess the htc ones with these mics are about to become even more valuable. My real question is do existing htc ones still have the dual membrane microphones? Htc did remove this feature from the official specs page but hdr video recording is still listed on the back of every htc one box from what I have seen so I am assuming they still have stock. And if they still have stock will there be enough for when the one max comes out later this year? I'm a noob not only to this forum but to a lot of cell phone tech and tech terminology so if anyone had any opinions or answers I would appreciate the input. Thanks.
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Now that micro$oft is acquiring nokia does this mean the haac microphone technology that stmicroelectronics sold to htc early this year will never make it into future non-nokia devices? I know that agreement between nokia and stmicro was until the middle of 2014 but with ms taking over the nokia smartphone division in this same year I doubt they would want to license out anything to potential competitors. I guess the htc ones with these mics are about to become even more valuable. My real question is do existing htc ones still have the dual membrane microphones? Htc did remove this feature from the official specs page but hdr video recording is still listed on the back of every htc one box from what I have seen so I am assuming they still have stock. And if they still have stock will there be enough for when the one max comes out later this year? I'm a noob not only to this forum but to a lot of cell phone tech and tech terminology so if anyone had any opinions or answers I would appreciate the input. Thanks.
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The mics were supposed to be removed from all future HTC One's as the tech was sold to HTC without proper licencing (they didnt go through Nokia) so i doubt the Max was ever supposed to use it. As for HDR recording I dont see what that has to do with the mic technology. HDR is typically a term used for lighting.
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The mics were supposed to be removed from all future HTC One's as the tech was sold to HTC without proper licencing (they didnt go through Nokia) so i doubt the Max was ever supposed to use it. As for HDR recording I dont see what that has to do with the mic technology. HDR is typically a term used for lighting.
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I recently read a thread here in the htc one forum that the way to know if you have the nokia microphone in your one was if it said hdr video on the back of the box. I guess that person who said that was mistaken.
HDR means high dynamic range... It commonly refers to an audio or video sensor's sensitivity to high and low inputs, whether sound or luminance.
I have a launch day One, and get impressive high spl audio recordings on video clips. I had an old thread around somewhere trying to figure out if the mics required special drivers, since audio only recording apps didn't sound as good as video from the HTC camera app...
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HDR means high dynamic range... It commonly refers to an audio or video sensor's sensitivity to high and low inputs, whether sound or luminance.
I have a launch day One, and get impressive high spl audio recordings on video clips. I had an old thread around somewhere trying to figure out if the mics required special drivers, since audio only recording apps didn't sound as good as video from the HTC camera app...
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Thanks for that clarification. I am really only familiar with HDR from gaming which refers to lighting processing.
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Thanks for that clarification. I am really only familiar with HDR from gaming which refers to lighting processing.
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It's actually the same thing. Audio and video are branches of signal processing, with techniques used in both cases. 1D vs. 2D signal processing.
None of the HTC One boxes I have seen mention anything about the microphone on them.
Closed, next time please read the rules before posting.
What ever happened to the microphone issue on this phone? Some time ago, Nokia won an injunction against HTC, and they supposedly were to stop using the microphone in their phone - once the stock HTC had in their warehouse depleted. Is that still the case? Do newer HTC Ones not have the better quality microphones? How is the recording capability in concerts/loud audio environments on the newer HTC Ones?
Do we know if the HTC M8 is going to have a good microphone for recording loud audio?
Does anybody have any idea?
I am considering this phone and I would lie if I said that this HDR mic I've seen in action in some clips, is not one of the biggest thing I admire in this thing. There was much rumours and constant mentioning about changing mic's in newer HTC One's and somehow as of today it's impossible to find any comparison or even mention about how this new MIC works compared to Nokia HDR. Anyone care to shed some light on this? It would be much appreciated.
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I am considering this phone and I would lie if I said that this HDR mic I've seen in action in some clips, is not one of the biggest thing I admire in this thing. There was much rumours and constant mentioning about changing mic's in newer HTC One's and somehow as of today it's impossible to find any comparison or even mention about how this new MIC works compared to Nokia HDR. Anyone care to shed some light on this? It would be much appreciated.
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Hi All,
Im thinking of buying a new head unit for my BMW E90, are there any preferences over these brands? Im swaying towards the Eonon GA7165/GA8165 but i believe most of these units are all the same but branded differently?
<--Update-->
Right so after carefully considering everything for 2 years I finally bought one!
I've just purchased the Xtrons PE9890BIPL
https://xtrons.co.uk/bmw-3-series-android-8-0-pe9890bipl
It is on offer for just £239.99 which to me was a steal as second hand units (if you can find one) tend to sell for around £150+ because most people paid £300ish.
it has a beefy specced system of an Octa Core PX5 processor with 4GB RAM and a 32GB ROM running Android 8.0. This unit also has a big 9" screen at the expense of losing a DVD drive and some physical buttons (all of which can be used from your own steering wheel controls) but they offer the same spec with a smaller screen and contains the physical buttons if you'd prefer the physical buttons and DVD drive.
the newer head units running Android 9.0 aren't as good, currently offering a quad core PX35 processor (same x64 bit architecture but runs more efficient) and only 2GB RAM and 16GB ROM so it's a downgrade really.
Then of course we move onto the brilliant XDA forum for custom ROMS, and it just so happens they've already managed to get Android 9.0 onto these PX5 units
So I chose Xtrons because from what I've read most companies buy these units from the same supplier and brand them leaving other factors to be considered, for me xtrons is UK based so next day delivery, plus clearence prices, they also offered the beefier head unit, support seems okay (some chaps hasd ssues with steering wheel functions not working after locking and getting back into car, long story short they sent people new looms and sorted) and then on top of this XDA developers providing custom ROMS which can fix a lot of the common issues. I'll provide another update when it comes on Monday
at the moment
8-core-px5 - Dasaita > All because of the different (stand-alone BT and WiFi chips)
4-Core-px3 - IMHO the only differnce is the OS. 7.1 has no custom roms yet, so yo probably have a bloated OS
difference at both to consider: AMP chip TDA7388 or TDA7850, clear recomindation is the TDA7850 because ist has way more power and sounds clearer and more crisp
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Car-android-GPS-For-BMW-E93-318LI-E92-325-E91-320LI-E90-328LI-autoradio-navigation-head/32808481136.html
zapedge said:
difference at both to consider: AMP chip TDA7388 or TDA7850, clear recomindation is the TDA7850 because ist has way more power and sounds clearer and more crisp
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Hey I'm new here.
Is the selection of AMP chip important ? Seems there's very few manufacturers using TDA7850.
The few that do use TDA7850 seem lots more expensive. Is this normal ?
Example http://smarty-trend.com/13-2-din-universal
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8-core-px5 - Dasaita > All because of the different (stand-alone BT and WiFi chips)
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1) BT and Wifi are going to be on the *same* chip, so don't need to pluralize that.
2) The positioning of that particular RF chip (whether it be on the SoM or the host board) doesn't *technically* matter. The downside to being on the host board is typically that the reseller may have a bigger part in writing software that interfaces with it, and reseller written software is always a very bad thing.
3) Intel Sofia units also have the wifibt and GPS chips on the SoM.
Even with the wifibt on the SoM, the resellers *still* manage to mess it up, however, it may be somewhat easier to clean up in this case.
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bgroper said:
Hey I'm new here.
Is the selection of AMP chip important ? Seems there's very few manufacturers using TDA7850.
The few that do use TDA7850 seem lots more expensive. Is this normal ?
Example http://smarty-trend.com/13-2-din-universal
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I think it may have to do mainly with your needs and expectations.
Neither is going to satisfy anyone who self-identifies as an "audiophile".
I think the main differences are that the 7850 is slightly more powerful (4x50 vs 4x45 watt), and is ok with 2 ohm speakers where the 7388 is 4 ohm only.
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00179160.pdf
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00145702.pdf
luciusfox said:
1) BT and Wifi are going to be on the *same* chip, so don't need to pluralize that.
2) The positioning of that particular RF chip (whether it be on the SoM or the host board) doesn't *technically* matter. The downside to being on the host board is typically that the reseller may have a bigger part in writing software that interfaces with it, and reseller written software is always a very bad thing.
3) Intel Sofia units also have the wifibt and GPS chips on the SoM.
Even with the wifibt on the SoM, the resellers *still* manage to mess it up, however, it may be somewhat easier to clean up in this case.
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I think it may have to do mainly with your needs and expectations.
Neither is going to satisfy anyone who self-identifies as an "audiophile".
I think the main differences are that the 7850 is slightly more powerful (4x50 vs 4x45 watt), and is ok with 2 ohm speakers where the 7388 is 4 ohm only.
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00179160.pdf
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00145702.pdf
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Which make and model has the 7850 chip? I've just had a look at the Eonons, Xtrons and Joying units for the E90 and the most I have found is 4x48w and all the rest are the same 4x45w.
Not sure which chip mine got but I do have the Octacore GA7165A and I'm really happy with it just a few setup things I need to figure out. I also installed Viper4Android which improves the sound greatly only issue I'm facing is it does not apply to the MTC radio.
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Not sure which chip mine got but I do have the Octacore GA7165A and I'm really happy with it just a few setup things I need to figure out. I also installed Viper4Android which improves the sound greatly only issue I'm facing is it does not apply to the MTC radio.
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Probably because the radio analog output never touches the CPU. It goes RADIO --> BD37xxx --> amplifier --> speakers.
The BD37xxx is an audio processor/mixer. Bunch of analog inputs, bunch of analog outputs, i2c control from either the MCU or SoC depending in which vendor it is.
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Not sure which chip mine got but I do have the Octacore GA7165A and I'm really happy with it just a few setup things I need to figure out. I also installed Viper4Android which improves the sound greatly only issue I'm facing is it does not apply to the MTC radio.
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Hi mate,
Good to hear that Viper4Android works on the GA7165A model, so you've not experienced any other issues? On a YouTube video I've read various things such as Audio quality being poor through Spotify which is one of the main things I'd want, and also phone calls sounding muffled, though I assume that's probably down to the positioning of the Mic itself. What sound system do you have as well mate, is it stock or upgraded?
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Probably because the radio analog output never touches the CPU. It goes RADIO --> BD37xxx --> amplifier --> speakers.
The BD37xxx is an audio processor/mixer. Bunch of analog inputs, bunch of analog outputs, i2c control from either the MCU or SoC depending in which vendor it is.
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Very surprised you know information as detailed as that Knowing all that you do, what would you advise to purchase?
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Hi mate,
Good to hear that Viper4Android works on the GA7165A model, so you've not experienced any other issues? On a YouTube video I've read various things such as Audio quality being poor through Spotify which is one of the main things I'd want, and also phone calls sounding muffled, though I assume that's probably down to the positioning of the Mic itself. What sound system do you have as well mate, is it stock or upgraded?
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I’ve got the stock sound system of a 2006 E91 I have installed Spotify but I haven’t used it yet still waiting for my mifi device but I’ll give it a shot maybe tomorrow and let you know.
In terms of Bluetooth / phone Bluetooth music is very good and also works through Viper4Android for the phone function itself I’ve only used the internal mic so far and that is a bit quiet but I’ll install the external mic later in the hope that it will improve the volume issue.
One thing I did have was V4A wouldn’t start automatically until I installed it as a system app now or does that just fine and from a sound quality perspective it is not worse than the default Prof. Head unit if anything I would say better since I can set a more granular sound set-up ( I like deep bass when the radio is not too loud just like the loudness feature on other stereos).
Not sure where you live if anywhere near southwest London feel free to pm me and we can meet for a coffee and you can have a look at it
@mrsweet1991 Have not yet tinkered with the mic but I did try Spotify for you and can report it works just fine I left the Spotify EQ off and instead use V4A and the sound quality is as good as an MP3 on the USB.
Hope that helps.
Have now installed the external mic however I had to disconnect the internal mic to get good quality I might go ahead and solder the external mic onto the internal port so I can use that for OK Google etc as well but with external mic and internal disconnected the quality is good.
How can i root the ga8165 and install xposed framework?
Another thoroughly derailed / hijacked thread
mrsweet1991 said:
Hi All,
Im thinking of buying a new head unit for my BMW E90, are there any preferences over these brands? Im swaying towards the Eonon GA7165/GA8165 but i believe most of these units are all the same but branded differently?
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I recently purchased this unit (GA7165A)and installed it.
If you purchased this unit how do you like it so far?
By the way I have a L7 AMP (fiber) and had to do a bit of research to figure out a few functional work around.
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Have now installed the external mic however I had to disconnect the internal mic to get good quality I might go ahead and solder the external mic onto the internal port so I can use that for OK Google etc as well but with external mic and internal disconnected the quality is good.
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Hi Mate,
Been such a long time since I've been on here, I just wanted to say a big thanks for the information it's good to know. I'm hoping one day I might get a break from fixing things on the car and actually get to stick an eonon unit in! Last time I here the 7165a was the best out and now there's a 8165a lol
mallen462 said:
I recently purchased this unit (GA7165A)and installed it.
If you purchased this unit how do you like it so far?
By the way I have a L7 AMP (fiber) and had to do a bit of research to figure out a few functional work around.
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Hi mate, I've not had a chance to buy one yet.. I seem to end up fixing the bloody car all the time haha. Walked in for an MOT and come out with a failure for a snapped rear spring and a couple of other minor things.. Starting to get back on track now though, so I take it you have the logic 7 system? Mines just the basic system with underseat subs so should be easier to setup but less rewarding on the sound quality side haha.
Also interested in buying a unit for my E90, just not sure how to pick a unit and know that im getting one of the more reliable manufacturers with stable software? Anyone have experience with the Eonon 8165A? seems like the best deal..
Xtrons
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Can any GA8615a owners vouch for the sound quality? Is it any worse than the stock HU?