[DISCUSSION] AOSP v. TOUCHWIZ - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

With the announcement of the T-Mobile and AT&T variants getting their first nightley of CM10.1 as early as this evening, I have to ask which are you going to run and why? (Obviously pending that we get CM on our device.)
By the way DEVS thanks for the hard work!
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Aosp all the way!! Can't wait for cm... aokp,carbon etc.
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Probably aosp... But it depends on what works (Camera and gps are a must for me).
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I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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mjs2011 said:
I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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That is a great point that is my same thought process.
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neemot said:
That is a great point that is my same thought process.
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Luckily I have a Nexus 7 for my AOSP fix.
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If the dev support for aosp on this phone turns out well, I may actually buy it. I'm gonna wait a bit and see.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
If the dev support for aosp on this phone turns out well, I may actually buy it. I'm gonna wait a bit and see.
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I would assume that for such a high end device, we'll see official support for many AOSP roms including :
CM10.1
AOKP
PA
Jelly Bam
Slim Rom
Etc...
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I love tw. Not really fond of the aosp ui
I love the 90s. Good times.

Although I love tw on this device I just flashed slimrom and it fly's!!!! Aosp looks great on this phone
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I'd really like to discuss some of the pro/cons/usefulness of certain tw features. I'll break down my opinion on a few and maybe some one can point out any better way to use these features or things I didn't consider
Air view-mostly useless Imo. Any info air view gives is faster to obtain by simply clicking.
Smart scroll- awful . Buggy as hell the only way I've gotten it to half way work is by setting it up to go by phone tilt and even then it randomly scrolls at times. Also you have to use the Internet app instead of Chrome and really who wants to do that?
Smart stay-pretty good feature imo. Only thing bad about it is it doesn't work great in low light.
Multi Window-one of the best features on phone only downside is the limited number of apps it supports.
Air gesture- hit and miss here some features are innovative and very useful some is pointless and stupid.
I have found quick glance and air jump very useful (air jump is a way better way of scrolling then smart scroll) the other features are easier to do by touching the screen so seem pretty pointless.
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mysongranhills said:
I'd really like to discuss some of the pro/cons/usefulness of certain tw features. I'll break down my opinion on a few and maybe some one can point out any better way to use these features or things I didn't consider
Air view-mostly useless Imo. Any info air view gives is faster to obtain by simply clicking.
Smart scroll- awful . Buggy as hell the only way I've gotten it to half way work is by setting it up to go by phone tilt and even then it randomly scrolls at times. Also you have to use the Internet app instead of Chrome and really who wants to do that?
Smart stay-pretty good feature imo. Only thing bad about it is it doesn't work great in low light.
Multi Window-one of the best features on phone only downside is the limited number of apps it supports.
Air gesture- hit and miss here some features are innovative and very useful some is pointless and stupid.
I have found quick glance and air jump very useful (air jump is a way better way of scrolling then smart scroll) the other features are easier to do by touching the screen so seem pretty pointless.
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Fyi if you're rooted you can use all apps in multi window by using the multi window manager app.
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Fyi if you're rooted you can use all apps in multi window by using the multi window manager
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Did not know that! I am rooted will Definitely check that out. Going to be hard to choose asop vs tw when I flash a custom rom. Most tw features are pointless marketing crap but it will be hard to live with out the innovative useful tw features. Wish there was a way to get cm so I can easily theme and customize everything but keep some tw stuff.
Had same issue when I had HTC inspire. Went asop then (as opposed to Sense Rom)
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I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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mjs2011 said:
I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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Agreed..just to cool to lose. And not to mention the wow factor. Tw baby..
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mjs2011 said:
I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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CM 10.1 was my daily driver for 5 months on the E4GT. Sbrissen ended up doing a great job.

mjs2011 said:
I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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^this.
I have been an AOSP guy for 3+ years. I have to say this newest version of TW is quite impressive compared to previous releases. Considering I have been using AOSP on a Nexus I just dont think I will be happy with it on this phone. AOSP was a just an overall let down on my wife's E4GT, it would have to be a vast improvement on that for me to even consider it.
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Highway 55 said:
^this.
I have been an AOSP guy for 3+ years. I have to say this newest version of TW is quite impressive compared to previous releases. Considering I have been using AOSP on a Nexus I just dont think I will be happy with it on this phone. AOSP was a just an overall let down on my wife's E4GT, it would have to be a vast improvement on that for me to even consider it.
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Pretty much this right here with me as well right now. The problem is I would love a Stock TW rom that's been slimmed down quite a bit but still has things like AirView and Multi-Window in it. I will however give it some time to see how good the AOSP roms work for the S4 the E4GT roms were nice we has awesome devs but I have to admit some were just lacking very badly in terms of things not working right at times.

cidica said:
Pretty much this right here with me as well right now. The problem is I would love a Stock TW rom that's been slimmed down quite a bit but still has things like AirView and Multi-Window in it. I will however give it some time to see how good the AOSP roms work for the S4 the E4GT roms were nice we has awesome devs but I have to admit some were just lacking very badly in terms of things not working right at times.
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ForceROM has most of the bloat removed, but you can still utilize all of the Samsung wizardry like airview, multi window, etc...
IMO, the most polished AOSP/CM ROMs on E4GT wouldn't have even qualified for Alpha status on a Nexus device. That is not meant to be an insult to the devs at all. It is just hard to make AOSP play well on Galaxy devices.
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You may not have to settle for one or the other...
Lead CyanogenMod developer and creator Steve Kondik has made an important announcement that will make Galaxy S4 owners leap with joy.
The custom ROM project is currently available in an experimental, nightly build for the T-Mobile version of the Samsung flagship smartphone. Moreover, the custom ROM is going to support Android’s hover events meaning that they’ll be open to developers to think of cool new software features in the line of Samsung’s Air View. Steve Kondik notes that there are “a few rough edges”, but as they get ironed out “in short order”, CyanogenMod 10.1 for the Galaxy S4 will be more than good enough for a daily driver.

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aokp vs touchwizz

i want to now what rom is better the AOKP or Stock ICS and what are the positive sides and non positives ???
For me TouchWiz, cuz Stable, everything work, all S Pen stuff work, can run more Video Codecs, and just beautiful
AOSP etc are nice, but many many bugs. untill they get solved, stay away
personal preference.
Even though Samsung is bloated, their newest touchwiz roms for note will have mad multitask abilities, the hardware probably will be left wanting a bit, but its truly innovating! Cant wait.
Aokp, is as intended(if they get the stuff working with closed sources) by Google
Samsung is doing some awesome stuff with the touchwizz.
definitely touchwiz, samsung is doing well.
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+1 for TW
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I'd say it goes back to personal preference as well.
But yeah in general stock is more stable and practically has more features. I personally prefer stock.
Aokp offers more customization than touchwiz. It is not as stable as tw. performance may be lower than that of tw.
I use anything that is non-tw.
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AW: aokp vs touchwizz
Aokp because it looks nicer and it is faster
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And which of the aosp/aokp/pa roms is the most full-featured at the moment? Specifically, I've heard none of them supports hdmi out - is that correct?

I see no reason to run a custom ROM on this awesome phone!

Honestly for me personally, the stock MDL ROM with some tweaks/KT-SGS4 Kernel/mods is freakn smooooothh as heck! I see no need for a custom ROM... yet! So far I'm loving this phone and I've only had it for a day, can;t wait for that next update hopefully we get it soon to fix some stuff. Other than that, this thing is smooth as butter!
I haven't even rooted mine yet and it's been over a week. I usually root the first day or two.
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I kinda agree... Except there are some cool root apps... And I wanted to uninstall a bunch of bloat apps.
That's why I went with team Sonic's freegs4.... It just like stock with some basic tweaks and some apps are uninstallable.
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I will agree that this phone offers the best stock experience I've ever had. If you're a tweaker like me though, custom ROM's are a must. I hightly recommend Blu Kuban. AOSP ROM's are also quite enjoyable, especially with Halo.
Also, man I wish the Hyperdrive ROM that's out for the Verizon variant would make its way to us. That ROM looks amazing.
Dont U Wanna Get Rid Of The Boatwear? And Have a Longer Last Battery? And More Faster Phone? Thats All In Root And Roms My Friend
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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Son Rise said:
WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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It's not a Sprint rom. It's am international rom. I'm guessing he used the app trick.
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Yeah stock on the phone lagged pretty bad. Team sonics ROM fixed that up .
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You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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Delakit said:
You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
Joe0113 said:
YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
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Lol, some of us bought it for the hardware - I think the whole eye watching thing is gimmick, and the pedometer is consistently off. AOSP really delivers in terms of speed and customization, which many desire. Speed + Customization > Gimmicks.
I'd also like to add that I'm still running stock so....
+1 stock. I like gimmicks
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TouchWiz features + AOSP Feel= Win haha I'm sure we aren't too far away from that
Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here. It personally took me a month to root my phone. And right now I can't really imagine having a AOSP ROM on it.
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Absolutely no ASOP for me and definitely no CM but that's just me. If I were buying strictly for the hardware, I might very well have gone a different route. I bought for the hardware and the software.
GiantJay said:
Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here.
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Let's all hug. :highfive:
Just like life you can live life the way it is or tweak it and make it your own life the way u want with the options available.
can i root after i get my SG4 flashed from US Cellular to Criket without messing up the flash.
Also Can i install custom Roms after i get my SG4 flashed to criket without messing up the flash.
once im flashed and running on criket i am too scared to mess it up
please let me know hwat i should do. i can't even find someone that can flash it yet. its very hard
im very sad i love this phone.
Cm/aosp is always smoother since there is no bloat, compare 1.5GB for stock rooted to 300mbs for an aosp based ROM. But the features are gone. And the camera isn't as good.
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Why should I get CM10.1.1 instead of Stock ROM?

Hello, this is just a question, I'm not bashing/hating here. I see many people running CM10.1, and the main article in the news on Android portals across the internet is the new update - CM10.1.1
I have a ROM based on CM10.1 on my Nexus S and honestly I see no much difference in comparison with the stock one I got on my N7. So, what is in your opinion, the best reason to get CM10.1.1?
Cause all the cool kids are doing it!!
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Security fixes. There are always new exploits found to compromise any system and its best to have the latest fixes.
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personal preference. I prefere stock and faux kernel.
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-Expanded Desktop
-Theming
-720p video recording
-USB-otg automount fat32 and ntfs
-Quick settings and task bar options
-Only basic Google apps installed default
-Privacy Guard
-...
-> Everything is so nicely integrated including superuser. It's stock, but improved with all the tweaks and apps you'd usually flash or install yourself. Plus there is the option to update OTA.
OP needs to read up on things instead of asking. There are many resources, guides and videos out there.
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The lack of options compared to AOKP keeps me away. Tablet mode and Nav/status bar transparencies are essential on the N7.
CM is more of a stockish feel with the latest security fixes and a few limited additional options and theme support.
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I agree with the above. CM just does not offer enough options compared to aokp to sway me over. At the same time, high memory and high graphic games always work better for me on stock. Ergo, im a multirom junkie. Best of all worlds with a simple reboot.
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Westervoort said:
-Expanded Desktop
-Theming
-720p video recording
-USB-otg automount fat32 and ntfs
-Quick settings and task bar options
-Only basic Google apps installed default
-Privacy Guard
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-> Everything is so nicely integrated including superuser. It's stock, but improved with all the tweaks and apps you'd usually flash or install yourself. Plus there is the option to update OTA.
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This
I just updated OTA for the first time today, worked like a charm.
The OTG automount is worth couple of bucks by itself. Also, the easy to use screen cap is da coolest.
I be way happy with CM on my N7.
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I think the stock ROM is well enough , and I don't think it's worthy to get cm to instead the stock ROM
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Google knows the best. So, stock for me.
Because llamas can't bacon.
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Westervoort said:
Everything is so nicely integrated including superuser. It's stock, but improved with all the tweaks and apps you'd usually flash or install yourself. Plus there is the option to update OTA.
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Exactly. It's enhanced stock Android, but more importantly it's enhanced stock Android with the support, wide compatibility, and "whole-ness" of stock. I've convinced many a friend running TouchWiz, Sense, and even stock Android to switch to CM or a CM-based ROM.
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Tablet mode and Nav/status bar transparencies are essential on the N7.
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Being that it's a smaller tablet, I don't agree that tablet mode is totally necessary. Is it nice to have? Definitely. I also wouldn't call transparencies "essential" in any sense.
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Being that it's a smaller tablet, I don't agree that tablet mode is totally necessary. Is it nice to have? Definitely. I also wouldn't call transparencies "essential" in any sense.
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The lack of either isn't a device killer, but those are 2 really nice features that I require. After running both, you wonder why they aren't stock in the first place. And I'd say that BECAUSE of the smaller tablet (7") it is EVEN MORE important to save desktop space.
Of course you could also use Extended Desktop w/ PIE controls, but the only PIE I like is Blackberry Cobbler.
Then there are people like me, I dont care CM or AOKP & what not...
Just need: speed + 110% smoothness without a stutter on all non gaming tasks + amazing batt life + USB Audio DAC support...
Also, still waiting for bit-perfect and hardware direct mode for USB Audio / DAC from kernel and music playback app developers... which probably will never come. Something like ASIO/WASAPI? Ring a bell? Guess not...
Audiophile 'minority'...meh.
Yep, people like me.
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OP needs to read up on things instead of asking. There are many resources, guides and videos out there.
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In all fairness (and much to my surprise), the Nexus 7 is the most challenging device to find organized, consolidated and relevant info for. Those of us whom count this as our first Nexus device have always been preached upon the virtue of stock/AOSP/CM vs (insert OEM UI) as though the three are synonymous, with CM being the vehicle that brings stock to, again, (insert OEM UI) devices. Even the Sprint-variant galaxy sII threads contain more up-to-date FAQ/tutorial stickies.
Maybe do a better job of consolidating "out there" before being "that" guy who has nothing to contribute beyond a condescending one-liner?
To the OP, the official CM website does an ok job at explaining their 'official' releases, but not a whole lot about how the experience differs from 'official' Vanilla/Nexus/Play Edition releases.
Also, Linaro --who works with literally every company not named Nvidia on source development-- seems to be a BFD to tegra3...
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Then OP can try the rom out and see for themselves. Spoonfeeding will benefit nobody.
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Then OP can try the rom out and see for themselves. Spoonfeeding will benefit nobody.
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I always thought a forum was place where people could come and get help, or opinions from fellow members.
If the OP is asking for your opinion, then it's a possibility he/she values what you have to say, rather than blogs that have been written by others.
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OP, it's a totally legit question, glad you asked. Because you asked, I read this thread and learned something. Perhaps the question has been asked too many times, but whatevs....no electrons or photons were harmed in the making of this thread. Frankly, you're either part of the solution or part of the problem, my vote says this thread is mostly part of the solution. I'm just in the process of deciding what I will do on my N7 after I unlock the bootloader and root it, now I have to search/understand the process of dual booting so I can try AOKP while enjoying stock, which I very much do (glad I waited for a 32). It also reinforced my desire to put CM back on my GSII.
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Then OP can try the rom out and see for themselves. Spoonfeeding will benefit nobody.
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Spoonfeeding huh? As somebody said already, this forum is a place to go ask questions and to help get a better understanding of what your tablet/phone is capable of.
To my knowledge there is nothing wrong w/ that as I have been doing this since '06 and continue to learn something new every time I read these forums. Cm 10.1 is a great rom w stock options, with the flexibility of giving you some customization. Surely give it a whirl
PS my mom spoon-fed me as a baby and I think I turned out pretty well
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KitKat and the Spen. Touch wiz alternatives?

Hi everyone, got a Note, installed Omni KitKat nightly and I'm as happy as a puppy. Only grief is that I'm missing all the spen candy. I know it needs the touchwiz framework and strongly doubt if Samsung is ever gonna grant us with a KitKat ROM for note 1, so here's the question: Is there any work in progress or any workaround to regain some spen functionality in KitKat? We could start by replacing that ugly cursor with something more phablet friendly.
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Hmm seems nobody is using their spens anymore...
I like the way kitkat is going but if any dev is reading this id like to know what to expect concerning these missing features:
1 - spen specific functions and airview like option. It could be implemented from when samsung update the note 3 to 4.4
2 - video calling over 3g (i.e. over regular phone)
3 - multiwindow, though i think its already in the works
4 - handwriting recognition
Mind you this is not a request for an ETA, just if these features will be available on the note1 under kitkat.
Thanks in advance and if you have other features in mind please share. :-
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Also, what about hdmi via mhl? Again, no request for eta, just enquiring if these features will ever be available on kitkat. Thanks
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This thread reminds me of my days in solitary confinement. Always talking to myself... Anyway, i think the feature i miss the most is actually video calls over 3g. Wonder if it's dialer app specific or there is more to it. I'll try different dialers and let - myself- know
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Most of the features you are taking about are Samsung implemented features.
- Calls over 3G can be done using any 3rd party app.
- even mhl is proprietary to Samsung.
- If air view and all were to be implemented on AOSP&CM based roms, wouldn't it have been already done as it was there in Samsung 4.1.2. So why to wait for 4.4? Most of these roms are not specifically made for stylus phones.
- Multi-window does work. Still under development. Although there are a lot of floating MW options.
- About handwriting recognition, it's used in Samsung keyboard. Again Samsung.. If you just want recognition, there are apps to do that.
You say it's not a ETA thread but keep updating it with your own posts every day. If you asked this to any Dev, why not wait for one to read and answer?
Made some progress with spen on kitkat. Fortunately that ugly cursor was ditched in the latest nightly and with gmd gestures app and gnote (from the forums) the spen is almost useful again. Also i find the swype like feature in SwiftKey much more convenient than handwriting recognition. Keep you updated with my progress. @nokiamodeln91 3rd party dialers offer video over data connection. I need the umts/3g implementation of video calling. Thanks for your input though.
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I Too would like SPen funtionality
I just installed KitKat Verizon Note2. I bought my Galaxy Nexusin '11 only to be dumped by Google, now with my Note2 that I really love, hear that I have to wait until next year sometime, if even then. I would really like some love for the Note2 SPen functions in the KitKat build.
Thanks to everyone working on these builds.
@stargazin I'm hearing that spen gestures have been implemented in latest omni nightly (12/12), waiting for download to finish...
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Please let me know how this works for you, and possibly a link to the ROM. I am really missing my pen functionality and apps.
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The implementation is basic right now, swiping left right up and down plus double tap can be assigned to apps or soft keys. It's still to be developed, for now I'm using GMD spen control which is much more flexible. The rom is omni kitkat nightly 12/12. Take the time to read the OP on how to install the rom. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516933
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The implementation is basic right now, swiping left right up and down plus double tap can be assigned to apps or soft keys. It's still to be developed, for now I'm using GMD spen control which is much more flexible. The rom is omni kitkat nightly 12/12. Take the time to read the OP on how to install the rom. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516933
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I'm using GMD as well, and Handwrite too. I would like to see the whole Note 3 SPen functions brought to the KitKat. There is a lot of cool stuff there. Some of the MotoX functions as well. My friend just received his Moto, and rubbing it in my face with all the hands free functions, talking to his phone while it is just sitting on the desk idle, screen off. That is cool. If I had any idea on how to program, I would try to figure this out.
Being over 50 now, and trying to learn all the new programming the young guys are doing, I'm impressed. Kudos to all of you out there tackling this. :beer:
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KitKat

I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
ArtfulDodger said:
The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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Ultimately there is one truism I have found, functionality and speed are mainly hardware dependent. You can have the best ROM ever made in history but if the device doesn't have the hardware to back it up, it's useless. I booted the Exhibit for the first time in almost two weeks the other day and it was so much painfully slower than what I have now it isn't even funny. It reminded me how thankful I need to be that I have something else to be honest. A good KitKat ROM may help this device, IDK.
Yeah, the browser on Slimkat is all slow and FC's, even when you try to use a different browser than stock. With the other 4.4 ROMs we have I think you can just use a different browser if the stock has FC issues.
I stay using 4.2, since I can OC higher than 1012MHz and can swap the sd's.
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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Proud2banoob said:
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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yeah, well thats what I think it means xD.
On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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Opera was always faster for me as well and also works well when getting Edge and not 3or4g.
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