Why should I get CM10.1.1 instead of Stock ROM? - Nexus 7 General

Hello, this is just a question, I'm not bashing/hating here. I see many people running CM10.1, and the main article in the news on Android portals across the internet is the new update - CM10.1.1
I have a ROM based on CM10.1 on my Nexus S and honestly I see no much difference in comparison with the stock one I got on my N7. So, what is in your opinion, the best reason to get CM10.1.1?

Cause all the cool kids are doing it!!
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Security fixes. There are always new exploits found to compromise any system and its best to have the latest fixes.
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personal preference. I prefere stock and faux kernel.
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-Expanded Desktop
-Theming
-720p video recording
-USB-otg automount fat32 and ntfs
-Quick settings and task bar options
-Only basic Google apps installed default
-Privacy Guard
-...
-> Everything is so nicely integrated including superuser. It's stock, but improved with all the tweaks and apps you'd usually flash or install yourself. Plus there is the option to update OTA.

OP needs to read up on things instead of asking. There are many resources, guides and videos out there.
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The lack of options compared to AOKP keeps me away. Tablet mode and Nav/status bar transparencies are essential on the N7.
CM is more of a stockish feel with the latest security fixes and a few limited additional options and theme support.
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I agree with the above. CM just does not offer enough options compared to aokp to sway me over. At the same time, high memory and high graphic games always work better for me on stock. Ergo, im a multirom junkie. Best of all worlds with a simple reboot.
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Westervoort said:
-Expanded Desktop
-Theming
-720p video recording
-USB-otg automount fat32 and ntfs
-Quick settings and task bar options
-Only basic Google apps installed default
-Privacy Guard
-...
-> Everything is so nicely integrated including superuser. It's stock, but improved with all the tweaks and apps you'd usually flash or install yourself. Plus there is the option to update OTA.
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This
I just updated OTA for the first time today, worked like a charm.
The OTG automount is worth couple of bucks by itself. Also, the easy to use screen cap is da coolest.
I be way happy with CM on my N7.
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I think the stock ROM is well enough , and I don't think it's worthy to get cm to instead the stock ROM
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Google knows the best. So, stock for me.

Because llamas can't bacon.
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Westervoort said:
Everything is so nicely integrated including superuser. It's stock, but improved with all the tweaks and apps you'd usually flash or install yourself. Plus there is the option to update OTA.
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Exactly. It's enhanced stock Android, but more importantly it's enhanced stock Android with the support, wide compatibility, and "whole-ness" of stock. I've convinced many a friend running TouchWiz, Sense, and even stock Android to switch to CM or a CM-based ROM.
player911 said:
Tablet mode and Nav/status bar transparencies are essential on the N7.
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Being that it's a smaller tablet, I don't agree that tablet mode is totally necessary. Is it nice to have? Definitely. I also wouldn't call transparencies "essential" in any sense.

Tatanko said:
Being that it's a smaller tablet, I don't agree that tablet mode is totally necessary. Is it nice to have? Definitely. I also wouldn't call transparencies "essential" in any sense.
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The lack of either isn't a device killer, but those are 2 really nice features that I require. After running both, you wonder why they aren't stock in the first place. And I'd say that BECAUSE of the smaller tablet (7") it is EVEN MORE important to save desktop space.
Of course you could also use Extended Desktop w/ PIE controls, but the only PIE I like is Blackberry Cobbler.

Then there are people like me, I dont care CM or AOKP & what not...
Just need: speed + 110% smoothness without a stutter on all non gaming tasks + amazing batt life + USB Audio DAC support...
Also, still waiting for bit-perfect and hardware direct mode for USB Audio / DAC from kernel and music playback app developers... which probably will never come. Something like ASIO/WASAPI? Ring a bell? Guess not...
Audiophile 'minority'...meh.
Yep, people like me.

peneoark said:
OP needs to read up on things instead of asking. There are many resources, guides and videos out there.
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In all fairness (and much to my surprise), the Nexus 7 is the most challenging device to find organized, consolidated and relevant info for. Those of us whom count this as our first Nexus device have always been preached upon the virtue of stock/AOSP/CM vs (insert OEM UI) as though the three are synonymous, with CM being the vehicle that brings stock to, again, (insert OEM UI) devices. Even the Sprint-variant galaxy sII threads contain more up-to-date FAQ/tutorial stickies.
Maybe do a better job of consolidating "out there" before being "that" guy who has nothing to contribute beyond a condescending one-liner?
To the OP, the official CM website does an ok job at explaining their 'official' releases, but not a whole lot about how the experience differs from 'official' Vanilla/Nexus/Play Edition releases.
Also, Linaro --who works with literally every company not named Nvidia on source development-- seems to be a BFD to tegra3...
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Then OP can try the rom out and see for themselves. Spoonfeeding will benefit nobody.
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peneoark said:
Then OP can try the rom out and see for themselves. Spoonfeeding will benefit nobody.
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I always thought a forum was place where people could come and get help, or opinions from fellow members.
If the OP is asking for your opinion, then it's a possibility he/she values what you have to say, rather than blogs that have been written by others.
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OP, it's a totally legit question, glad you asked. Because you asked, I read this thread and learned something. Perhaps the question has been asked too many times, but whatevs....no electrons or photons were harmed in the making of this thread. Frankly, you're either part of the solution or part of the problem, my vote says this thread is mostly part of the solution. I'm just in the process of deciding what I will do on my N7 after I unlock the bootloader and root it, now I have to search/understand the process of dual booting so I can try AOKP while enjoying stock, which I very much do (glad I waited for a 32). It also reinforced my desire to put CM back on my GSII.

peneoark said:
Then OP can try the rom out and see for themselves. Spoonfeeding will benefit nobody.
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Spoonfeeding huh? As somebody said already, this forum is a place to go ask questions and to help get a better understanding of what your tablet/phone is capable of.
To my knowledge there is nothing wrong w/ that as I have been doing this since '06 and continue to learn something new every time I read these forums. Cm 10.1 is a great rom w stock options, with the flexibility of giving you some customization. Surely give it a whirl
PS my mom spoon-fed me as a baby and I think I turned out pretty well
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[ROM] The Ultimate Droid 3.2.5 Discussion

Just felt I should share this with everyone since I don't think a lot of people know about it yet.I know I never heard of it until the other day.
Trying to.get.an idea of what others think.
I guess there has been some controversy between Blackdroid (UltimateDroid) and the CyanogenMod team over the likeness of Ultimate Droid to CyanogenMod 7. They are almost identical, however, Ultimate Droid offers far more customization and every bit as snappy. As most of you know, the CM7 Final was released nearly 24 hours ago. I obviously downloaded and flashed it immediately to check it out. Honestly, there just wasn't anything special enough to keep it, I immediately restored my UD backup.
I certainly don't want to get in the middle of any beef between developers, after all these are both phenomenal ROMs.I just know I am always looking to try new ROMs and other methods of tweakness and hope others would speak up...
Obviously, I take no credit for anything here, just sharing info...
The Ultimate Droid 3.2.5 [ROM]
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Also, check out my thread of splash screens for the HTC Incredible...including one for The Ultimate Droid ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965532
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Uh oh.....
What does UD offer so different?
Stoney 666 said:
Uh oh.....
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Seems like if you read the forums enough life goes in circles, doesn't it?
Tapatalk Pro Sig. Yep, boring.
Just more customizable. It allows you to easily change things like themes, boot animations/sound, and system font (which might be my favorite feature). That, or the ability to add a custom message (or name/nickname) to the lockscreen.
some will prefer CM still and certainly nothing wrong with that.
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Screen shots?
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http://goo.gl/Hvk09
That is all.
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Tried his work on my d1. Nothing really special. Stopped using his stuff after that whole thing happened.
People are still talking about things that went down a year ago? Wow.
UD Rom is the best hands down.
Edit: I could care less about the year old beef...bunch of whining babies. I'd steal your lunch on the playground if I could.
UD is much more stable then CM. Faster, smoother and far superior battery life. Who cares about the stale drama between the 2 open source deVs. Its all about the final product and UD takes the cake.
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How does it compare to omfgb and I'm assuming gapps is needed as well?
How do I download this?
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cuban11182 said:
How do I download this?
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Follow the link on the OP...
I did but it wont download, hence the reason why I asked.
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I'd rather step in fresh dog poop barefoot than try UD.
CM7 nightly
At least you have options!
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dubsx said:
Just more customizable. It allows you to easily change things like themes, boot animations/sound, and system font (which might be my favorite feature). That, or the ability to add a custom message (or name/nickname) to the lockscreen.
some will prefer CM still and certainly nothing wrong with that.
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Just out of curiosity, are all the additions aesthetic, or are there any performance enhancements over CM7? Like the power control widgets or the lockscreen gestures and things like that.
Wow.... I think this is a record for the longest running UD thread.
For the record, I can't stand aosp roms but would choose UD over cm any day. Especially with cm7. I think cm7 took a step back with removing their custom options and adding the theme app. The only "gimik" they have on cm7 is that its Ginger Bread. Other then that, nothing stands out. The last "good" cm release was cm6 rc3, hands down. And UD is pretty consistent with their releases.
Found my problem. It was that the webpage was set to mobile instead of full size. Once I clicked on the bottom I was able to download.

Curious about my new project? [UPDATED May 29]

UPDATE ON MAY 29, 2012: I'm sorry guys.
I won't be releasing my project. I'm actually stopping the effort to port the rom. I can't do it, it just is way too complicated to complete.
This means, until I decide to work on something new or find something worth porting, I am not developing for the D3 or Droid Bionic anymore.
I won't be picking up Motoblur + Android 4.0.4 either, so eliminate that question as well.
I hope you guys won't get mad.
--Sam
And the XT860's ?
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boazal said:
And the XT860's ?
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I should be able to pull it off!
I'm curious
Well I'm curious can we at least have a hint?
Sure is a great attention whoring thread
First hint in the OP!
droidian1441 said:
First hint in the OP!
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Trying to get aosp gb going huh?
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buckmarble said:
Trying to get aosp gb going huh?
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Check your PM
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Nice to something gb on its way. Im sure im not alone that I can't use ics as a daily driver for various reasons
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it would be great to bring a banging ass sense rom our way like 3.0 or 3.5
olorolo said:
it would be great to bring a banging ass sense rom our way like 3.0 or 3.5
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I'm all for options, but Sense just isn't my cup of tea. Not to mention it would be Gingerbread based (I don't believe any HTC device currently has ICS), and many people (myself included) would see it as a step back.
Endoroid said:
Nice to something gb on its way. Im sure im not alone that I can't use ics as a daily driver for various reasons
What exactly has you hung up, as far as ICS is concerned (just a question)? Everything works, with the exception of face unlock, and some spotty bluetooth issues. Granted, I'm not overly familiar with the GSM builds and their respective bugs, but most people really seem to be enjoying the 4.0 builds...
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My hope is that we see something completely new...not a port of an existing Galaxy Nexus ROM, but one built specifically for the D3 and other Moto devices. I would love to see something fresh and original, yet streamlined and efficient, that we can all enjoy.
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jjhiza said:
I'm all for options, but Sense just isn't my cup of tea. Not to mention it would be Gingerbread based (I don't believe any HTC device currently has ICS), and many people (myself included) would see it as a step back.
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The HTC One X has it Actually, I think all of the new HTC One series phones have it.
it's will be great if it contains a RTL & BIDI languages as well.....
I'm definitely interested. I prefer having full functionality for my phone, so the ICS ROMs are out for me for now, and I prefer the GB ROMs to be unthemed. It seems that all of the themed ROMs have something that I think looks mediocre (bad fonts that make it difficult to tell normal from bold, or that flow badly; on screen button elements that do not work right; mediocre battery indicators on the status bar; unattractive notification pull-downs; etc.)
doogald said:
I'm definitely interested. I prefer having full functionality for my phone, so the ICS ROMs are out for me for now, and I prefer the GB ROMs to be unthemed. It seems that all of the themed ROMs have something that I think looks mediocre (bad fonts that make it difficult to tell normal from bold, or that flow badly; on screen button elements that do not work right; mediocre battery indicators on the status bar; unattractive notification pull-downs; etc.)
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Have you taken a look at mavrom? Youve got a lot of theme choices at one click of a button.
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i really hope its a good, multi-lang, gb 2.3.7 rom liek cm7.2 without any bloat like sense.
maybe even the hw-codecs and such are working?
btw. if you need a gsm guy for testing, msg me.
Here's an update:
This rom is a pain in the ass. It really is. So the chances of me completing this, with school and other things have gone down to about 20% from 70%.
But here are some details:
Gingerbread 2.3.6
Later Software from another device (I'm not naming it)
No GSM compatibility
Sorry GSM users, there isn't a way GSM will work on the rom until the device I'm porting this from is updated later this year.
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Are you using the Bell or Chinese ROM? I worked on the Bell 2.3.6 port, and it worked, but my modding/theme-ing skills are weak, so it didn't move much past stock appearance with some build.prop tweaks.
redsox985 said:
Are you using the Bell or Chinese ROM? I worked on the Bell 2.3.6 port, and it worked, but my modding/theme-ing skills are weak, so it didn't move much past stock appearance with some build.prop tweaks.
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I'm porting from a US device. Lol.
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[DISCUSSION] AOSP v. TOUCHWIZ

With the announcement of the T-Mobile and AT&T variants getting their first nightley of CM10.1 as early as this evening, I have to ask which are you going to run and why? (Obviously pending that we get CM on our device.)
By the way DEVS thanks for the hard work!
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Aosp all the way!! Can't wait for cm... aokp,carbon etc.
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Probably aosp... But it depends on what works (Camera and gps are a must for me).
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I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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mjs2011 said:
I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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That is a great point that is my same thought process.
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neemot said:
That is a great point that is my same thought process.
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Luckily I have a Nexus 7 for my AOSP fix.
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If the dev support for aosp on this phone turns out well, I may actually buy it. I'm gonna wait a bit and see.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
If the dev support for aosp on this phone turns out well, I may actually buy it. I'm gonna wait a bit and see.
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I would assume that for such a high end device, we'll see official support for many AOSP roms including :
CM10.1
AOKP
PA
Jelly Bam
Slim Rom
Etc...
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I love tw. Not really fond of the aosp ui
I love the 90s. Good times.
Although I love tw on this device I just flashed slimrom and it fly's!!!! Aosp looks great on this phone
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I'd really like to discuss some of the pro/cons/usefulness of certain tw features. I'll break down my opinion on a few and maybe some one can point out any better way to use these features or things I didn't consider
Air view-mostly useless Imo. Any info air view gives is faster to obtain by simply clicking.
Smart scroll- awful . Buggy as hell the only way I've gotten it to half way work is by setting it up to go by phone tilt and even then it randomly scrolls at times. Also you have to use the Internet app instead of Chrome and really who wants to do that?
Smart stay-pretty good feature imo. Only thing bad about it is it doesn't work great in low light.
Multi Window-one of the best features on phone only downside is the limited number of apps it supports.
Air gesture- hit and miss here some features are innovative and very useful some is pointless and stupid.
I have found quick glance and air jump very useful (air jump is a way better way of scrolling then smart scroll) the other features are easier to do by touching the screen so seem pretty pointless.
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mysongranhills said:
I'd really like to discuss some of the pro/cons/usefulness of certain tw features. I'll break down my opinion on a few and maybe some one can point out any better way to use these features or things I didn't consider
Air view-mostly useless Imo. Any info air view gives is faster to obtain by simply clicking.
Smart scroll- awful . Buggy as hell the only way I've gotten it to half way work is by setting it up to go by phone tilt and even then it randomly scrolls at times. Also you have to use the Internet app instead of Chrome and really who wants to do that?
Smart stay-pretty good feature imo. Only thing bad about it is it doesn't work great in low light.
Multi Window-one of the best features on phone only downside is the limited number of apps it supports.
Air gesture- hit and miss here some features are innovative and very useful some is pointless and stupid.
I have found quick glance and air jump very useful (air jump is a way better way of scrolling then smart scroll) the other features are easier to do by touching the screen so seem pretty pointless.
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Fyi if you're rooted you can use all apps in multi window by using the multi window manager app.
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Fyi if you're rooted you can use all apps in multi window by using the multi window manager
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Did not know that! I am rooted will Definitely check that out. Going to be hard to choose asop vs tw when I flash a custom rom. Most tw features are pointless marketing crap but it will be hard to live with out the innovative useful tw features. Wish there was a way to get cm so I can easily theme and customize everything but keep some tw stuff.
Had same issue when I had HTC inspire. Went asop then (as opposed to Sense Rom)
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I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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I'm normally a huge AOSP fan, but I don't know if I could do without some of the TW features on this phone like Airview and multi window, just to name a few.
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Agreed..just to cool to lose. And not to mention the wow factor. Tw baby..
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mjs2011 said:
I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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CM 10.1 was my daily driver for 5 months on the E4GT. Sbrissen ended up doing a great job.
mjs2011 said:
I hear you. I used to only go AOSP for the longest time, but TW has really grown on me. It probably helped that AOSP was never that stable on the E4GT.
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^this.
I have been an AOSP guy for 3+ years. I have to say this newest version of TW is quite impressive compared to previous releases. Considering I have been using AOSP on a Nexus I just dont think I will be happy with it on this phone. AOSP was a just an overall let down on my wife's E4GT, it would have to be a vast improvement on that for me to even consider it.
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Highway 55 said:
^this.
I have been an AOSP guy for 3+ years. I have to say this newest version of TW is quite impressive compared to previous releases. Considering I have been using AOSP on a Nexus I just dont think I will be happy with it on this phone. AOSP was a just an overall let down on my wife's E4GT, it would have to be a vast improvement on that for me to even consider it.
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Pretty much this right here with me as well right now. The problem is I would love a Stock TW rom that's been slimmed down quite a bit but still has things like AirView and Multi-Window in it. I will however give it some time to see how good the AOSP roms work for the S4 the E4GT roms were nice we has awesome devs but I have to admit some were just lacking very badly in terms of things not working right at times.
cidica said:
Pretty much this right here with me as well right now. The problem is I would love a Stock TW rom that's been slimmed down quite a bit but still has things like AirView and Multi-Window in it. I will however give it some time to see how good the AOSP roms work for the S4 the E4GT roms were nice we has awesome devs but I have to admit some were just lacking very badly in terms of things not working right at times.
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ForceROM has most of the bloat removed, but you can still utilize all of the Samsung wizardry like airview, multi window, etc...
IMO, the most polished AOSP/CM ROMs on E4GT wouldn't have even qualified for Alpha status on a Nexus device. That is not meant to be an insult to the devs at all. It is just hard to make AOSP play well on Galaxy devices.
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You may not have to settle for one or the other...
Lead CyanogenMod developer and creator Steve Kondik has made an important announcement that will make Galaxy S4 owners leap with joy.
The custom ROM project is currently available in an experimental, nightly build for the T-Mobile version of the Samsung flagship smartphone. Moreover, the custom ROM is going to support Android’s hover events meaning that they’ll be open to developers to think of cool new software features in the line of Samsung’s Air View. Steve Kondik notes that there are “a few rough edges”, but as they get ironed out “in short order”, CyanogenMod 10.1 for the Galaxy S4 will be more than good enough for a daily driver.

Anyone else feel like this?

http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/05/27/i-think-im-done-hacking-my-smartphones/
Skins were horrible, but I'm really liking what OEMs are doing now, this article literally took the words out of my mouth.
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From time to time you might feel like that. But it does not mean that you can't tamper with a phone, especially a nexus one.
Yes if I would buy an s4 the only thing that I would is root it just for the sake of TB.
But with the nexus you can do anything and is super easy to return to where you were.
And no counter or avoiding warranty by unlocking the bootloader you just need 3 words to lock or unlock it and of course a backup
I don't say you have to become a crack flasher but trying mods and roms will make you have a better perspective and even convince you that stock is better.
Anyway, everything is up to you.
You can always leave it at stock and wait for that much desired OTA.
Cheers mate
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I only flash custom ROM's and Kernels for performance, not so much additional features or looks.
No, I don't feel like this because I own a nexus device.
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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lowrider262 said:
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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Oh, ok. I've been using root explorer to delete system apps for so long I forgot TB could do it too.
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Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better. I always buy a phone and make it make me flash something else. Since the Galaxy Nexus, I have had no need to do this.
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Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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Agreed, it's circular logic. Especially now that game stats/etc will be saved so you can pick your phone or tablet up and still be at the same spot in the game.
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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You can disable system apps with the OS since ICS, too.
I love Flashing Hacking Modding all the good things that goes with owning a Nexus.. :good::good::good: But I don't go over the top... See my banner
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Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better.
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Agreed, Android has been closing the gap, if my current ROM/source wasn't available I'd happily rock stock.
I bought a nexus 4 because I love hacking, customizing and bricking my phone and all this stuff, I love it, no regrets, I dont want to go back to touchwiz and timescape...
If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This is why I own a Nexus 4.
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There’s a reason that the HTC One benchmarks lower on CM10.1, despite running Android 4.2.2, than it does on Sense 5.0, which runs Android 4.1.2
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I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't feel like I need to install a custom rom with this device. Tweaking it with a few mods gets me what I need. I still don't get why some refuse to mod the phone because they want to get the next ota update. Once it is released, all one has to do is flash a rooted version that should appear here within 24 hours.
lowrider262 said:
If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This and I want Google to give the option to unlink the bloody notification and call volume. I also want brightness slider in the notification or quick settings, dont understand why no one apart from Samsung considers the importance of the slider.
Oh and did I say battery percentage? While it's not exactly a deal breaker but still does not make any sense why stock android doesn't have it.
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uploder said:
I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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Oh man! A former G2x user... that also lives in Central NJ. Remember when we were waiting for the O2x ICS update? No HW acceleration or anything, it sucked.
I don't flash nearly as often as I used to like I did with my G2x. I stick with ROMs for much longer now. I'm happy with CM10.1
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...Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted. Just like enabling the Developer options, there should be some method needed to enable root, aside from the whole custom recovery custom root solution thing. Normal users aren't exposed directly to root, and power users who need root, can easily enable it. And... new users can root too without the need of those toolkits :good:
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I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted.
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Because it's a giant security hole..

I see no reason to run a custom ROM on this awesome phone!

Honestly for me personally, the stock MDL ROM with some tweaks/KT-SGS4 Kernel/mods is freakn smooooothh as heck! I see no need for a custom ROM... yet! So far I'm loving this phone and I've only had it for a day, can;t wait for that next update hopefully we get it soon to fix some stuff. Other than that, this thing is smooth as butter!
I haven't even rooted mine yet and it's been over a week. I usually root the first day or two.
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I kinda agree... Except there are some cool root apps... And I wanted to uninstall a bunch of bloat apps.
That's why I went with team Sonic's freegs4.... It just like stock with some basic tweaks and some apps are uninstallable.
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I will agree that this phone offers the best stock experience I've ever had. If you're a tweaker like me though, custom ROM's are a must. I hightly recommend Blu Kuban. AOSP ROM's are also quite enjoyable, especially with Halo.
Also, man I wish the Hyperdrive ROM that's out for the Verizon variant would make its way to us. That ROM looks amazing.
Dont U Wanna Get Rid Of The Boatwear? And Have a Longer Last Battery? And More Faster Phone? Thats All In Root And Roms My Friend
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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It's not a Sprint rom. It's am international rom. I'm guessing he used the app trick.
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Yeah stock on the phone lagged pretty bad. Team sonics ROM fixed that up .
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You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
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YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
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Lol, some of us bought it for the hardware - I think the whole eye watching thing is gimmick, and the pedometer is consistently off. AOSP really delivers in terms of speed and customization, which many desire. Speed + Customization > Gimmicks.
I'd also like to add that I'm still running stock so....
+1 stock. I like gimmicks
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TouchWiz features + AOSP Feel= Win haha I'm sure we aren't too far away from that
Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here. It personally took me a month to root my phone. And right now I can't really imagine having a AOSP ROM on it.
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Absolutely no ASOP for me and definitely no CM but that's just me. If I were buying strictly for the hardware, I might very well have gone a different route. I bought for the hardware and the software.
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Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here.
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Let's all hug. :highfive:
Just like life you can live life the way it is or tweak it and make it your own life the way u want with the options available.
can i root after i get my SG4 flashed from US Cellular to Criket without messing up the flash.
Also Can i install custom Roms after i get my SG4 flashed to criket without messing up the flash.
once im flashed and running on criket i am too scared to mess it up
please let me know hwat i should do. i can't even find someone that can flash it yet. its very hard
im very sad i love this phone.
Cm/aosp is always smoother since there is no bloat, compare 1.5GB for stock rooted to 300mbs for an aosp based ROM. But the features are gone. And the camera isn't as good.
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