Native Browser Speed vs Chrome - RAZR i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
I have an observation on my Razr i that I wanted to check with whoever's interested.
I've been using the Chrome browser since I got the phone (4/5 months ago), and always thought it to be fast enough for my needs, but then tried using the native browser a couple of days ago and it seems significantly faster when scrolling & loading pages.
Because Chrome is regularly updated I figured it would the faster of the two, though the backlog of cookies etc could possibly slow it down? I like the additional features of Chrome so it would be sad to see it go, but now it's painful to go back!
If anyone would like to have a play and see what they think I'd find it interesting. I've had a look through the forum and can't find any related discussion, I believe I'm on the latest EU JB build.
Could it be that the native browser is better optimised for intel? I thought we got Chrome a little late because they were optimising it for X86.

kitchenutensils said:
Hi All,
I have an observation on my Razr i that I wanted to check with whoever's interested.
I've been using the Chrome browser since I got the phone (4/5 months ago), and always thought it to be fast enough for my needs, but then tried using the native browser a couple of days ago and it seems significantly faster when scrolling & loading pages.
Because Chrome is regularly updated I figured it would the faster of the two, though the backlog of cookies etc could possibly slow it down? I like the additional features of Chrome so it would be sad to see it go, but now it's painful to go back!
If anyone would like to have a play and see what they think I'd find it interesting. I've had a look through the forum and can't find any related discussion, I believe I'm on the latest EU JB build.
Could it be that the native browser is better optimised for intel? I thought we got Chrome a little late because they were optimising it for X86.
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Native browser always feels faster than chrome on other devices that I have tried, irrelevant of CPU architecture. There is just something in it that makes the scrolling and resizing look nicer. If someone can post some real data that would help -- but those have always been my impressions on different devices.

I agree stock browser is much faster than chrome and you can use flash player which chrome doesn't have and it still has some of the features chrome has like browser sync with my laptop ect
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How's that bookmark sync with desktop (chrome) in native browser? I was never able to find that functionality (without 3rd party apps) in native browser, for me main reason to use Chrome on my phone..
Did I miss something, native bookmark sync in built in browser with desktop chrome? And if yes; how??

Omar-Avelar said:
Native browser always feels faster than chrome on other devices that I have tried, irrelevant of CPU architecture. There is just something in it that makes the scrolling and resizing look nicer. If someone can post some real data that would help -- but those have always been my impressions on different devices.
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Here is some real data: I'm running SunSpider 0.9.1 on Stock ROM JB 4.1.2 Brazil Retail:
Native Browser (809ms) (During test my CPU use was around 50%)
Chrome (938ms) (During test my CPU use was around 70%)
PS: CPU Use information provided by app Cool Tool
bmszabo said:
How's that bookmark sync with desktop (chrome) in native browser? I was never able to find that functionality (without 3rd party apps) in native browser, for me main reason to use Chrome on my phone..
Did I miss something, native bookmark sync in built in browser with desktop chrome? And if yes; how??
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My native browser syncs bookmarks from google chrome, including folders... Check that Browser Sync is checked at your (Android/System/Launcher)Settings-> Google Account -> (your google email showing when was the last sync) -> Internet

Thanks, have overlooked that; google/sync bookmarks was turned off..
But, one more question: aside of speed issues; what are the added values of Chrome (visual effect, like flipping cards not counted) above build-in browser? Sync opened tabs with other devices is nice, but not essential for me; on the other hand, according to settings memory footprint of Chrome android is HUGE (as compared to native browser)..

bmszabo said:
Thanks, have overlooked that; google/sync bookmarks was turned off..
But, one more question: aside of speed issues; what are the added values of Chrome (visual effect, like flipping cards not counted) above build-in browser? Sync opened tabs with other devices is nice, but not essential for me; on the other hand, according to settings memory footprint of Chrome android is HUGE (as compared to native browser)..
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Chrome is better in almost everything apart page rendering speed (the thing make it feels a bit laggy comparated to the stock browser), the only thing I miss is the pie control...
I do use both, for light pages chrome, for heavy ones, like facebook, stock browser...

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Google Chrome

Hey everyone,
What are your thoughts about the new browser?
Have you clicked the "make default" button?
How would you like to try one out on a mobile device?
Hello,
Chrome, by itself, is really good to use, initially i was not comfortable with the idea for google collecting data about my surfing habbits, but further reading suggests that almost all browsers do "call home" its not something that is really special with Chrome and defenitely not what some websites try to portray...
I am sure Google knows enough about my surfing habits without having the google toolbar and chrome installed
dammit, i just want to visit some sites which they won't know about....hmmm...maybe won't know about...
So, no "make default" yet, I'm eagerly trying out the new firefox 3.1 beta...
On the mob, yeah sure, 'cauz my mobile browsing is quite limited...
To make it clear, I, for one, have made the switch... Using Chrome as Default, there are still many areas they need to cover, but my biggest concern at the moment is Bookmarks. Firefox and Opera have great Sync features, Chrome has none. That's a real pain, considering the whole Cloud phylosophy which Google understands all too well..
Downloading is another area...
Being a big Google fan I'm prepared to live with this version, but not sure if it's ready for mainstream.
I imagined Chrome to be updated quite often, but that's not the case at all.
I'm definitely using Chrome full time. I've had to go back to Firefox a couple times for certain plugins (specifically media rippers, to pull FLV files off video sites) but hopefully Chrome will open up to third parties soon.
I think it´s too "Beta" now
Maybe in a couple of years could be a good candidate, but now still too young and limited.
I´ll stick to Opera meantime
Cheers,
I have been using Chrome every now n then but not 'default'. It does look promising but will take time to mature like Firefox 3. Firefox simply rocks.
Aparently they have this policy that everything you upload using google chrome is now considered theirs.. or so I've been told...
I enjoy a certain level of privacy. So....im sticking to FF on the PC (except when IE is required) and Opera on WM6.1+
@Mikeeey: Nope. They resolved that a while ago. They used a general TOS agreement that was pretty blanket and covered a number of services (to save on writing up different legal agreements every time). They forgot that the wording was sort of bad in this particular case and have since changed it. Everything you do under Chrome is yours, as expected.
@Zeezee: What do you mean by privacy? Because they track usage?
I really like Google products, but Chrome just doesn't cut it against FireFox or Maxthon. I've grown very accustomed to certain plug-ins and/or features in FireFox and Maxthon that I just can't part with.
I'm absolutely loving Chrome. So speedy.
Still lacks a couple of things I liked from FF, but I'm not going back.
/defaults it.
Oh - and regarding privacy - I figure Our-Googley-Overlords already know most of my browsing habits, seeing as I use Google to search for everything anyway.
make the switch. it will change your life.
joel2009 said:
make the switch. it will change your life.
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Why you say this?
Can you extend your opinion please?
I've always hated FF and was an IE user.
I find Chrome screws up sometimes on streaming videos, but other than that, I use it all the time.
IE7 would crash on me daily, not any more. The ultimate browser for me would be some sort of Chrome-IE8 hybrid.
Willtastic said:
@Zeezee: What do you mean by privacy? Because they track usage?
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yeah, google likes to know ppl's business
zeezee said:
yeah, google likes to know ppl's business
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who don't?

[Discussion] Opera Mobile 10

Added the tag at the start so people didn't think it was available here yet
So I'm sure many people have seen the news
http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/12/10/opera-mobile-10-for-android-now-available-but-not-to-you/
This, along with the new Google Maps navigation, are probably the two things I've always wanted from my phone. I've wanted to ditch the standard, slow, messy default Android browser for so long, and finally it looks like we're getting a decent replacement, albeit, not easily it looks.
I'm really hoping this arrives to the G1, fingers crossed it won't be too tied in to new phones that it won't be portable.
Eagerly awaiting a leak of this one .
Just download the Dolphin Browser from the market, its a fantastic browser and has google bookmark syncing so all you bookmarks will be there if you use Chrome on your pc. it has tabbed browsing and its themeable (if thats a word).
JediMasterASD said:
Just download the Dolphin Browser from the market, its a fantastic browser and has google bookmark syncing so all you bookmarks will be there if you use Chrome on your pc. it has tabbed browsing and its themeable (if thats a word).
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Dolphin is surely great but i really want to give a try to opera too, i used the beta 10 on my previous hd2 and it was really sweet!
Hope to see it soon.
I noticed that dolphin sync with google import the single bookmarks but not the folders, so they are all mixed up, am i doing something wrong?

Google Chrome on Android

No one posted this yet?
It's available on the Android Market for ICS devices
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome
APK also available here:
http://min.us/mv2d7nyM6#5o
edit: I screwed up the upload - it only uploaded around 1MB instead of 16MB - fixed now
What do you think of it, performance-wise?
Love it! :-D
Edit: 'till now ;-)
It was posted in the Themes and Apps sectino - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485686
Running great!!
I compared several pages and it the stock browser still feels like it scrolls smoother and loads considerably faster.
This IS a beta though so improvements in this regard are inevitable.
The fact that there is no Flash support hurts it just a bit too. Once Flash is completely eradicated from the web(I can't wait for that to happen, such a completely inefficient, performance hogging format) it'll be a non-issue though.
going to try this out now. thanks for heads up
Does is work well in Desktop mode? Do websites recognize the mode correctly or does it auto load the mobile page?
kiroiv said:
Does is work well in Desktop mode? Do websites recognize the mode correctly or does it auto load the mobile page?
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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to change user-agent to desktop.
chrome://flags/ doesn't work. Some of the other chrome:// commands do, none of them have the option to change user-agent.
Does not load or have option to load pages in desktop mode. What is the point in a browser for tablets that loads pages as if they where on a phone.
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Does not load or have option to load pages in desktop mode. What is the point in a browser for tablets that loads pages as if they where on a phone.
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In fairness, most web developers are taking a shortcut and assuming anything with "android" in the user-agent string is mobile instead of asking the browser for screen dimensions. This is bad but common practice.
The way which was finally added in the ICS browser to work around this is to change the user-agent string platform info to X11 instead of Android.
When you "request desktop site" this is what happens.
Site thinks is mobile: (Linux; U; Android 4.0.3; en-us; Build/ITL41F)
Site thinks is desktop: (X11; Linux x86_64)
This is an inelegant hack. (Though I am surprised it's missing from Chrome for Android)
Ideally, web developers will clue into the existence of tablets and properly handle things.
I find the stock ICS browser to be smoother and more fluid for me....
ZanshinG1 said:
Ideally, web developers will clue into the existence of tablets and properly handle things.
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When people still design sites/apps for IE6 I wouldn't hold my breath.
Agreed with others here. Stock feels faster and smoother.
IMO its a terrible beta. No user string, no flash, bookmarks are terrible, colour theme doesn't fit with ICS..
Also, why does it exist? If it's only for ICS and above, why didn't they replace stock browser with it? I thought stock android browser was web kit and chrome based anyway.
TheStickMan said:
Agreed with others here. Stock feels faster and smoother.
IMO its a terrible beta. No user string, no flash, bookmarks are terrible, colour theme doesn't fit with ICS..
Also, why does it exist? If it's only for ICS and above, why didn't they replace stock browser with it? I thought stock android browser was web kit and chrome based anyway.
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Funnily enough, Chrome relys on the stock browser for half its settings
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I installed it. Went to a few sites. Said cool. And now I'm back to using the stock browser.
I like it because my chrome bookmarks now sync, the feature never worked in Honeycomb or with the new ICS browser and I had to use the chromemarks app as a work around.
Its quite fast to use but it still needs a lot of work, flash, themes and extensions would be nice lolz
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I think its not bad for a beta been using it on my phone for a few days now... Remember beta here.. We cant expect everything from your desktop onto your mobile device right now as with google they are going to add features as time comes... Personally i would like to see extentions work but most people would be like that
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When i first downloaded chrome i used it a little then went back to ics + because i thought chrome was akward and hard to close tabs. I missed quick controls right off the bat because they are pretty ingenious and intuitive. Well since then i have only used chrome. I only use ics+ when i need to view flash. Chrome is fast, although it takes some effort to close tabs and open new ones. I can't wait for an update and all the things that are obvious (extensions, flash, quick controls). I love how android is growing up. I feel like a proud father watching it go from a small phone ui to now on the brink of blossoming out to all areas of life. By that i mean throughout our homes i.e. Google home integration. I don't think Google has any plans to support flash though with this browser. The HTML YouTube in this browser is fast an non buggy. I'm sure Google wants to keep their browser flash free so they can monopolize web m.
I think I have to agree with you, I've gone back to the ICS browser because it's better designed for touch screen devices. Chrome beta is quite fiddly to use with your fingers! lolz
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Can I get this feature in Chrome which is in firefox? See screenshot

Hello,
Firefox is not a bad browser, but I think Chrome is better. Firefox uses more resources and even though I have an SSD I still think it starts slow, Chrome lauching faster then Firefox, on a HDD you will see the difference better.
But on my SSD I noticed the difference to. I still use firefox because off that little arrow in the url bar which lets me go to webpages I visit often. Chrome has something like that but you need open a new tab for it.
But I like the way firefox lets me visit webpages fast better, as I not need open a new tab for it.
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No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
brendonlee said:
No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
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Takes me at least one whole second.....
Then again, I'm getting old and aren't as quick as I used to be....
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
brendonlee said:
No, Chrome just isn't setup that way. Adding a new tab only takes a micro second anyway...
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Well Chrome is certainly fast, but adding a new tab when I have no reason to that is not the way I wish to work.
So in Chrome i need put the adress in the adress balk, but with firefox I just get a list with most visit sites.
Just start typing part of the address, eg. facebook, twitter etc. and Chrome will fill in the rest for you. Okay it's not a dropdown, but it's as quick once you're used to it, if not quicker.
How about just typing this : chrome://history/
PS: Not every browser has same features. But I just want to say the Autocomplete feature in Chrome is awesome. To get that in Firefox, we should edit some Firefox settings (values?).
Archer said:
Just start typing part of the address, eg. facebook, twitter etc. and Chrome will fill in the rest for you. Okay it's not a dropdown, but it's as quick once you're used to it, if not quicker.
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That works ofcourse to, but that is something Firefox can do to.
The dropdown is more like most visited websites, Chrome takes another approach in that and will show you thumbnails with most visit websites if you open a new tab.
Right now I still keep using firefox as webbrowser, but its much heavier then chrome, but it works good for me.
coolsandie said:
How about just typing this : chrome://history/
PS: Not every browser has same features. But I just want to say the Autocomplete feature in Chrome is awesome. To get that in Firefox, we should edit some Firefox settings (values?).
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I use Chrome mostly in incognito mode because with chrome you can surf incognito and on same time also use the normall mode in another window. I think Chrome is very good browser I just keep using firefox for the normall browser most time.
But I think firing up a chrome right after I logged into Windows will be faster then firing up firefox.
DexterMorganNL said:
I use Chrome mostly in incognito mode because with chrome you can surf incognito and on same time also use the normall mode in another window. I think Chrome is very good browser I just keep using firefox for the normall browser most time.
But I think firing up a chrome right after I logged into Windows will be faster then firing up firefox.
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But what if, Firefox is used in private browsing mode .. does the visited sites (in private browse mode) show up in drop down menu ?
And yeah, in Chrome you can browse with 2 modes. But not in Firefox I guess.
Can I get this feature in Chrome which is in firefox?
There are lots of the features of Mozilla Firefox that differentiate from other web browsers such as Web Explorer. Firefox depends on the extension technique to permit users to alter the browser according to their requirements in lieu of providing all features in the standard distribution.

New browser

Hi!
Im looking for a new browser for my P9. Been trying a few but it seems like all of them are missing important requirements that i want.
The browser should contain:
-AdBlock (that actually works)
-When closing the browser and start it again, it should start from default page and not the last visited.
-Incognito always on. Not necessary if theres a option to clear history when closing the app.
-Battery friendly
Dolphin is probably the choice, but i just cant seem to like it on Android. On iPhone it was pretty good.
Is there a option out there?
On PC and Android only Opera(Opera not Opera mini).
Opera is like chrome but dont suck so much resources and it have few handy features like: Compression mode, Build in AdBock AND VPN mode.
But best part is Battery life, compared to Chrome, no matter if its PC or Android you can get even 30-40% more time on it.
Also it have sync mode so you can browse sites on PC and finish it on Phone.
Sadly recent update literally F up look of Opera, but if you didnt use it before, you should not notice that, but I would suggest to switch to tablet view in settings, its WAY more comfortable to use it(even better if you change DPI in programming settings of phone to 320-380)
I would suggest giving it a try for week or two, with both on PC and Phone and after that you will notice how bad Chrome was in terms of performance and battery life.
Thanks for your reply.
I remember i used Opera on a old Android and was happy with it. Must say, i kinda like the new look of it. But is it not possible to remove the news feed? Also, the ad block doesnt work very well. And when closing Opera and starting it again it takes me to the last viewed page. Also, no incognito mode.
I am using Brave Browser, fastest than any others and as simple than chrome. AdBlock included.
No lag on the scrolling and it used the last chromium engine.
You can disable the startup page.
lifenight said:
I am using Brave Browser, fastest than any others and as simple than chrome. AdBlock included.
No lag on the scrolling and it used the last chromium engine.
You can disable the startup page.
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No incognito or option to delete history upon exit. Last visited page opens when restarting the browser. No good im afraid
Yes there is an incognito mode. But if you want to hide everything, inbrowser is maybe a good option.
lifenight said:
Yes there is an incognito mode. But if you want to hide everything, inbrowser is maybe a good option.
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It has, but i need to chose incognito every time i use the app. And in incognito i cant have my bookmarks. I tried inbrowser, but i didnt like it at all.
And i know.. im very stubborn :laugh:
Hehe, I which you to find your happiness
APUS browser, end of story
carlese said:
APUS browser, end of story
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I like it! Thanks alot
Not possible to change themes on it am i right?
vikingalle said:
I like it! Thanks alot
Not possible to change themes on it am i right?
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Well it has night mode, it's super fast so no need to make it heavy with themes and other stuff.. Adblock built in, I think it's quite perfect
Opera HAVE incognito mode, and it show last visited site.
Incognito mode( its called "private" mode). It can be enabled by just clicking windows icon in phone mode, or in tablet mode: options icon in right corner->create new private tab.
As far as keeping last visited site. Hard to tell why you dont get it, because its one of features that I HATE personally, and its annoy me because opera always open last visited site AND all tabs in background.
Also feed main site can be changed to normal mode just by going to options and changing option: "set feed site as homepage" to disabled.
I'm using Dolphin browser on Android (P9) and I'm satisfied. It has all I need.
Have you looked at Nova browser. It seems quite popular with some P9 users.

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