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[Q] Why HTC LOVE not to upgrade the previous HTC Devices even though they are able to support the software??
Because they can sell new phones.
Have patience.
htc is actually one of the better companies when it comes to upgrades on older phones. I hear sony or motorola customers get no love.
I guess being better doesn't translate to being good at updating previous models. It's all about making a sale.
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Cause if every single HTC device have right of upgrade, what's the point of new devices from HTC ? This forces people to buy new products. Hope you understant
like i said, it's all about the sale
They sell a device, support a few updates for a while, perhaps after that one or two updates spread out, then they do focus on the sale of newer devices almost exclusively.
HTC is better than some companies, and at least they have made lots of hardware that can support better software, because we can enjoy the great work of independent developers like those on xda to give us lots of options. We don't have to rely on HTC that way!
Go open source!
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I will be happy if HTC just gives out drivers to stop the camera lag in AOSP ROMs, that's all I ask
I found that app in sensation forum...it is force closing on all the roms except virtuos unity one. It won't even run on the IS official sense 3.0 update.
Anyone knows how we can port it???
You should be happy, as HTC is actually releasing updates...go to Huawei or Motorola...the phone sells and dies with the same Rom. You'll find all sorts of unofficial Roms, but not from the manufacturers.
So, HTC is doing quite all-right, not as good as Google (from obvious reasons) but not as bad as Huawei or Motorola.
OK. once again regarding this app, does anyone have any idea how to port it?
i have the sensation qhd .apk of this app.
any one willing to resize this app for wvga?
Brings back hope to some HTC owners
A rather interesting HTC update list has been leaked on Twitter showing that there is still hope that some HTC smartphones like the One S, Droid Incredible 4G and the EVO 4G will get the Jelly Bean update.
As noted, the list was leaked on Twitter by Football4PDA, a source that was proven reliable in a couple of leaks before. The list included codenames that are actually, HTC One X+, One XL, Droid Incredible 4G LTE, EVO 4G LTE, One SV, One VX, One S, One S C2 and the HTC J smartphones.
Hopefully HTC will confrim the leaked update list soon.
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HTC phones to get Jelly Bean update “revealed” on Twitter
by Adrian Diaconescu on Dec 10, 2012 with 8 Comments
Although it’s still a bit early to call this one, HTC seems to be on the right track for recovery after a long and painful string of financial losses. The One X+ and especially the Droid DNA might have got the Taiwanese out of the serious pickle they were in, but on the flipside the Jelly Bean upgrading process looks quite bad.
It’s been a while since the last time HTC officially tackled the “Jelly Bean situation”, and, with only one phone being currently upgraded (and rather slowly), you can say things aren’t looking good for people still on ICS.
A bittersweet piece of intelligence has just come to our attention though via Twitter, where a “list of HTC devices that will get JB update” has been posted. The info comes via @Football4PDA, an infamous and rather trustworthy source of leaks and rumors that has provided us in the past with quite a number of precious and accurate pieces of HTC-related info.
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[This time Football seems to go the extra mile to keep the suspense surrounding the “report”, listing the devices that will supposedly get JB under their not so famous codenames. Fortunately, after doing some digging, we think we know the official names of all those phones.
First off, we have the “Evitare”, which is the recently released One X+ with LTE. The thing is this big buy already runs Android 4.1, so either Football mentions it to ensure us that it’ll get 4.2 or it’s a mistake. The “Evita” is the One XL, which is basically a regional version of the One X. This was released way back in May with ICS, so a JB upgrade is definitely long overdue.
Next up we have the “Fireball”, aka Droid Incredible 4G LTE. This was a rather puzzling (barely) high-ender that hit Verizon last summer and that didn’t prove awfully popular. Then again, with Jelly Bean butter, the Incredible could finally live up to its name.
Lower on HTC’s evolutionary chain we have the “Jewel” and “Totem C2”. These are most definitely the EVO 4G LTE and One VX. Both are carrier-exclusive phones in the US, available on Sprint (the EVO) and AT&T (the VX). The One VX however has only started selling a few weeks ago, so it might be a while until it gets the 4.1 bump.
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The next three devices on the list are the Ville, Ville C2 and Valente, aka One S, One S C2 and J ISW13HT. You’re probably already familiar with the One S, while the C2 and J are more or less similar, sporting 4.3-inch displays themselves.
The One S C2 however has a 1.7 GHz dual-core CPU, while the J, as you might have guessed already, is a Japan-only mid-ranger with a 1.5 GHz processor. Last, but not necessarily least, we also have a yet to be released device on the list, the K2 or the One SV. This was supposed to come to Europe already, but for some reason it’s delayed, so there’s a (slim) possibility it could be released with Jelly Bean on board.
Now, to clarify, why did I say this is bittersweet intel? Well, mostly because of the notable absences on the list. We’ve known for a while that phones with 512 MB of RAM will not be invited to the JB party, but what about the Sensation, Desire X, Incredible S or Amaze? Sure, no one says Football’s list is a complete and definitive one, but it definitely makes you think, doesn’t it?
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http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-phones-jelly-bean-update-list-twitter-leak-137928/
The way AT&T,Rogers and Bell run things, The holiday won't get a jellybean update. Cariers have a big say in updates.
camo_flage said:
The way AT&T,Rogers and Bell run things, The holiday won't get a jellybean update. Cariers have a big say in updates.
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Yeah...that's what the whole op was pretty much about...the vivid not getting official jb
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Just as I thought, those are all sense 4.0 phones. Most likely getting sense 3.6 was a final farewell to the "old" htc phones. They'll use 4.0 as an excuse saying that these phones aren't capable of running 4 and therefore aren't possible to update.
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i think its bs that the EVO 4G is getting it and not us.. if im right the vivid is 5 months- a year newer
Evo 4G? That phone is ancient. Nexus one hardware. Are you sure they didn't mean evo 4g Lte?
FWIW I bought the wife a nook color for Christmas and it's got an omap 3 in it which is along the same type of hardware as the first generation snapdragon in the evo and jelly bean works on it but it's pretty choppy animation wise. No oem would want that on their hardware.
I'm pretty sure they were talking about the evo lte which is basically a custom made one x for sprint.
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Pssh. Who needs HTC to have Jellybean .
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h8rift said:
Pssh. Who needs HTC to have Jellybean .
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And this is pretty much how it has always been (this is why xda is here). So thank the smartphone gods you guys are smart and giving, to give us what those paid ******* wont....all a money scheme to them. Thank you devs, you really make everyone really happy (except maybe, htc lol)
TO EVERYONE: CHECK OUT THE WORKING JB (WITH MIC) IN DEV SECTION . No more waiting!!
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i think its bs that the EVO 4G is getting it and not us.. if im right the vivid is 5 months- a year newer
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Yes the article says evo 4g lte..which is a snapdragon s4. The only s3 on that list is the ville c2. If it actually gets it I may attempt a port. Don't get your hopes up though..I've never had a successful sense port lol
And tbh as smooth as the aosp builds are I don't know that I'll still have that desire once its released
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Yeah after bluetooth is done, I'd imagine using an aosp build and adding sense 4.1 wouldn't be impossible, inotherwords we could make our own update!
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Yes the article says evo 4g lte..which is a snapdragon s4. The only s3 on that list is the ville c2. If it actually gets it I may attempt a port. Don't get your hopes up though..I've never had a successful sense port lol
And tbh as smooth as the aosp builds are I don't know that I'll still have that desire once its released
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What would be cool is if we could have aosp builds with sense in it
Sorta like desensed builds xD Except an aosp JB rom with sense 4.1 camera in it :3 Love Htc's camera app
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What would be cool is if we could have aosp builds with sense in it
Sorta like desensed builds xD Except an aosp JB rom with sense 4.1 camera in it :3 Love Htc's camera app
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The sense apps rely HEAVILY on sense framework. The second you start mixing sense framework, its not aosp and here come the bugs
But I love htc's camera too
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Yeah definitely its all in or all out with sense. I've come to find most of my lag issues with this phone are from mixing it up, ie using nova and freezing rosie, or using gosms instead of the sense messaging app. As soon as you start doing that, stuff starts breaking, and things get laggy.
Now I am running pure wcx stock build, and completely happy with it because I've just accepted sense. Pretty much if you don't like sense, flash a senseless or cm build. If you like parts of sense, use it all
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I too am kinda confused by this list. I looked at the specs for the HTC One S, and it's pretty much the same as the Vivid, just clocked a little higher. I'm sure the Vivid could officially run Jelly Bean, but for one thing, it would take forever to actually reach us OTA (ahem AT&T). The other reason I can think of that the Vivid isn't on the list, is that if HTC kept updating its older devices, who would buy their new ones?
Anyway, that's why I came to XDA, to see what my Vivid is truly capable of
Yeah, Vivid has been out for quite a while and wasn't very popular. So makes sense that they wouldn't bother with it.
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Well, that was quick!
Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/10/htc-one-source-code/
@htcdev Twitter: https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/321838162538295296
Doesn't look like they have it for the Sprint variant yet. But I would assume they're getting stuff out quickly.
Just noticed that too, which is understandable seeing as we have 9 days until official release. VERY cool to see HTC do this and hopefully they will continue to show an effort to assist their most loyal customers and those more willing to purchase on an annual basis... tech geeks.
Now the wait to get it ported to other HTC devices. Would be fun to play with Sense 5 before we get the phone.
I know they're working on it over in the EVO 4G LTE boards. It's still a dev-only build, but it's moving along. I would rather just wait the couple of extra days to get my HTC One.
How useful with this be once they drop 4.2 which is supposed to be coming out soon?
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Now the wait to get it ported to other HTC devices. Would be fun to play with Sense 5 before we get the phone.
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Sense 5 is truly the nicest sense experience to date. Blinkfeed is awesome once you figure out the best way to work to you. Its a whole lot of fun. But i already threw nova launcher on mine love aosp feel.
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Yea I must say I am amazed with how smooth and pleasant sense 5 is. So much nicer than touchwiz
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Is this the phone to get? Not a fan of samsung except for the GOOGLE phones.. I have a iPhone ATM, I am a themer, and flash roms like they are going out of style. I am a huge MIUI fan, hence the iPhone. I am starting to rebrowse XDA for info regarding rom Development, considering the phone is pretty new, its taking off well?
Any input would be appreciated.
This phone is amazing and has tons of support. It has an amazing stock HTC interface and if that's not good enough for you, they're releasing a Google Edition version of this phone which means official AOSP support. Throwing MIUI on top of that would be childs play
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This phone is amazing and has tons of support. It has an amazing stock HTC interface and if that's not good enough for you, they're releasing a Google Edition version of this phone which means official AOSP support. Throwing MIUI on top of that would be childs play
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Google edition sounds like a plan! once the kernal drops for that phone, then the sprint variant should get it too correct? Im in if thats the case. With my Phone upgrade i can get this phone for $30, not looking to pay $500 for the Google edition.
If you want to be able to show off anything except aesthetics (stats, software gimmicks, etc.), you'll probably wanna go with the S4. The One's features generally take daily use to appreciate.
There have been reports of HTC offering the Google edition software to early supporters. That and developers will definitely be able to port stock aosp from the Google edition to our phones. The hardware is almost identical!
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Why not get the dev edition of the HTC one it was cheaper than the ones on contract last time I check and it had more storage
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Do you guy's really think they're gonna release a Nexus Experience HTC One for Sprint? I sure don't, since they said it was for AT&T and T-Mobile only. Plus, I also don't think they're gonna release a stock AOSP Rom for this phone either. Your best bet for AOSP on the Sprint version, is gonna be CM10.1 or Carbon.
welcome back
I've been an apple geek for 20+ years, yes they had them back then...
And have really liked almost every device they've made with the exception of the iPhone. Themed/hacked and jb still doesn't compere to a rooted Android
I hope you come back.
Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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:facepalm: :banghead:
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.