[Q] Why HTC LOVE not to upgrade the previous HTC Devices even though they are able to support the software??
Because they can sell new phones.
Have patience.
htc is actually one of the better companies when it comes to upgrades on older phones. I hear sony or motorola customers get no love.
I guess being better doesn't translate to being good at updating previous models. It's all about making a sale.
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Cause if every single HTC device have right of upgrade, what's the point of new devices from HTC ? This forces people to buy new products. Hope you understant
like i said, it's all about the sale
They sell a device, support a few updates for a while, perhaps after that one or two updates spread out, then they do focus on the sale of newer devices almost exclusively.
HTC is better than some companies, and at least they have made lots of hardware that can support better software, because we can enjoy the great work of independent developers like those on xda to give us lots of options. We don't have to rely on HTC that way!
Go open source!
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I will be happy if HTC just gives out drivers to stop the camera lag in AOSP ROMs, that's all I ask
I found that app in sensation forum...it is force closing on all the roms except virtuos unity one. It won't even run on the IS official sense 3.0 update.
Anyone knows how we can port it???
You should be happy, as HTC is actually releasing updates...go to Huawei or Motorola...the phone sells and dies with the same Rom. You'll find all sorts of unofficial Roms, but not from the manufacturers.
So, HTC is doing quite all-right, not as good as Google (from obvious reasons) but not as bad as Huawei or Motorola.
OK. once again regarding this app, does anyone have any idea how to port it?
i have the sensation qhd .apk of this app.
any one willing to resize this app for wvga?
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Did someone try porting the WP7 to the N1??
Not possible.
More importantly... WHY?
That'd be like taking the motor out of a Honda Civic and sticking it in a Lamborghini Gallardo. Fail.
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Not possible.
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But why? The HD2 seems to be working?
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But why? The HD2 seems to be working?
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he has a point
I think it could be a great idea, because, for example, I really want our Nexus One to be like the HTC HD2! Been able to "work" also with other OSes..
Plus, Windows Phone 7 seems to be very snappy and minimal!
Android is obviously better, but I really want to try the Seven
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There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
I think the HD7 is pretty much the same device as the HD2?
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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First of all I'm glad to know that my curiosirty has interest with other people as well.
second, the reason for the WHY is of course curiosity, and the fact that the N1 is a capable device and it'll be interesting to see how it would function with other OS.
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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I with I had the money to carry as much devices as I wanted to.
That's the reason I wanted the N1, and Android for that matter, to be flexible...
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There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
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That's handy then, as teardowns show the HTC Surround is basically a Nexus One.
HD2 runs Android awfully, compared to N1. I couldn't stand looking at it stuttering all over the place where N1 flies.
The other problem for this port is bootloader and FS compatibility. While it could probably be overcome, it might not be straightforward, just as it's quite hard to install Windows and Linux on the same partition, both using different native FS. On WM phones there is many-years-old way of loading other systems "under" Windows (I'm not really into details, but AFAIK the other system doesn't load from bootloader, but from early stages of WM kernel - which is the reason why WM-loaded OSes run like crap). On Android phones, it doesn't work that way, and there is no universally used way of loading other OSes.
And the biggest problem for all the curious would probably be just that no dev has taken interest in doing it.
if HTC 7 Surround is simular to N1, is it possible to port the whole bootloader and system of surround to N1. and and run Android "on the top" of WP7 just like what HD2 does
this could be a very very interesting project... as there are quite a few developers currently working on a WP7 like launcher for android. and if we could run wp7 it would be a pretty amazing.
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Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market
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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one
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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one
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The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.
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The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.
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for AT&T 3G?
Edit: Ok, I guess the Telstra HD2 had AT&T 3G bands, so you could import the phone at a premium. i can't find it on Ebay, but the Cell2Get.com has it for a reasonable $831.99. it better be the greatest ever
I would love trying wp7 on my nexus. The OS interests me, not enough though to shell out for an entire new phone. Especially since all the wp7 phones really aren't special hardware wise.
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So....
What does it take to port an OS??
do we need a new bootloader? do we need the WP7 source code?
You will never get WP7 source code.
I guess you'd need a complete dump from the Surround to work from.
The same message as left on the rootzwiki AOSP thread:
HTC isn't going to be able to help if they don't know the problem (and don't assume that they do).
Everyone interested in helping who can't develop would benefit from contacting HTC on their website's contact form (which I can't link to xD) and let them know our position and why we want AOSP.
It is really easy and quick to do, and you have no reason not to if you want the current hurdles overcome.
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They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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kozmikkick said:
It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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CAF has LTE support and AOSP is only meant to build for their devices. All LTE devices I have but Holiday have aosp fully functional. The issue are security checks put in by HTC on this device.
Edit: jewel has same checks as well as some other HTC 8960 devices, but they have alsa source so it's moot.
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Copy pasting and editing my response from over there:
They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
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I agree with what you're saying, and things only look worse for the future. Samsung is the next greatest thing, but the Verizon GSIII got locked down (yes, it's been cracked already, but still). It'd be ignorant to think Samsung wouldn't start to lock down on other carriers. Where do we go? LG?
Now that Google has announced they will be selling a GSM Samsung S4 through the android market starting in June, what are your thoughts on which to get?
I purchased my HTC T-Mobile version last week. Took a while to adjust to Sense, and actually have 'desensed' it a bit by using Nova Launcher instead. It's a pretty phone, but I do miss some of the stock Android features of my GNex. Actually, it may be that since the GNex has had quite a bit of development, there are some nice tricks I can use with it that haven't been developed for the HTC One yet (i.e. PGM swipe to wake).
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Now that Google has announced they will be selling a GSM Samsung S4 through the android market starting in June, what are your thoughts on which to get?
I purchased my HTC T-Mobile version last week. Took a while to adjust to Sense, and actually have 'desensed' it a bit by using Nova Launcher instead. It's a pretty phone, but I do miss some of the stock Android features of my GNex. Actually, it may be that since the GNex has had quite a bit of development, there are some nice tricks I can use with it that haven't been developed for the HTC One yet (i.e. PGM swipe to wake).
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someone said it one of the threads(not sure which one) that he knows someone at htc and the will be releasing a pure aosp rom for the htc one like samsung is doing
Sadly, its not true based on this source
Update: Jeff Gordon of HTC just sent us the following message, “HTC is not currently planning a ‘Nexus Edition’ of the HTC One.”
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
I was really hoping that HTC would partner with Google so we could get pure android with actually time updates and this is the thread, page 60 that has the topic ".CyanogenMod Night lies"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272945
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Sadly, its not true based on this source
Update: Jeff Gordon of HTC just sent us the following message, “HTC is not currently planning a ‘Nexus Edition’ of the HTC One.”
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
I was really hoping that HTC would partner with Google so we could get pure android with actually time updates and this is the thread, page 60 that has the topic ".CyanogenMod Night lies"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272945
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companys always deny rumors in public statements until they are ready to release. not saying that i believe the guy and his source at htc but i definitely dont believe public statements release by a company rep
Is this the phone to get? Not a fan of samsung except for the GOOGLE phones.. I have a iPhone ATM, I am a themer, and flash roms like they are going out of style. I am a huge MIUI fan, hence the iPhone. I am starting to rebrowse XDA for info regarding rom Development, considering the phone is pretty new, its taking off well?
Any input would be appreciated.
This phone is amazing and has tons of support. It has an amazing stock HTC interface and if that's not good enough for you, they're releasing a Google Edition version of this phone which means official AOSP support. Throwing MIUI on top of that would be childs play
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This phone is amazing and has tons of support. It has an amazing stock HTC interface and if that's not good enough for you, they're releasing a Google Edition version of this phone which means official AOSP support. Throwing MIUI on top of that would be childs play
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Google edition sounds like a plan! once the kernal drops for that phone, then the sprint variant should get it too correct? Im in if thats the case. With my Phone upgrade i can get this phone for $30, not looking to pay $500 for the Google edition.
If you want to be able to show off anything except aesthetics (stats, software gimmicks, etc.), you'll probably wanna go with the S4. The One's features generally take daily use to appreciate.
There have been reports of HTC offering the Google edition software to early supporters. That and developers will definitely be able to port stock aosp from the Google edition to our phones. The hardware is almost identical!
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Why not get the dev edition of the HTC one it was cheaper than the ones on contract last time I check and it had more storage
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Do you guy's really think they're gonna release a Nexus Experience HTC One for Sprint? I sure don't, since they said it was for AT&T and T-Mobile only. Plus, I also don't think they're gonna release a stock AOSP Rom for this phone either. Your best bet for AOSP on the Sprint version, is gonna be CM10.1 or Carbon.
welcome back
I've been an apple geek for 20+ years, yes they had them back then...
And have really liked almost every device they've made with the exception of the iPhone. Themed/hacked and jb still doesn't compere to a rooted Android
I hope you come back.
Very sad to post this guys, but turns out the device will not be getting lollipop due to not providing an "Optimal Experience"
https://twitter.com/htc/status/592823289204047872
We will be getting 4.4.4 though which still sucks as it will take them another 3-4 months to develop it.
This sucks .. Ironic that my last device s4 mini that I sold over a year ago is getting lollipop while my new device isn't..
Well i don't trust htc .. sometimes they said something and it's totally wrong.. remember on their website they said that the One mini 2 will get Eye Experience ... And look now .. no Eye experience on our device..
So let's see
Disappointing and no M9 Mini on the horizon.... I might have to buy my first non-HTC phone.
Together with the disappointing release of the M9, this might have been the last HTC phone I've bought for a long time. I felt they had something with the M7, but since then no significant progress has been made and announcements like these certainly pushes me over the edge.
It could be 1gb ram is not enough ..
I noticed the HTC sense home update made my phone lag a lot so I uninstalled it seems much better now.
I think my next phone won't be a HTC maybe a Samsung .Samsung generally have better cams than HTC I think
Moto G is same cpu and ram and runs android 5.1 very well.
So either Sense put too much of an overhead or HTC just didn't sell enough HTC One Mini 2 to make it worth worrying about. It seemed to have been a popular phone in the UK but in US its only on one network.
Few custom roms for it either .....
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It could be 1gb ram is not enough ..
I noticed the HTC sense home update made my phone lag a lot so I uninstalled it seems much better now.
I think my next phone won't be a HTC maybe a Samsung .Samsung generally have better cams than HTC I think
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Cheers for that, was wondering what was causing phone to freeze & it seems uninstalling sense home update has cured it
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Guys i run my stock rom with no lag at all .
I've made one stuff to get this kind of flying..
I will build a rom hybrid if i can get some htc apps work on cm12 rom.
I think we can get a rom close to sense 7.0 on lollipop.
I'll try that and i'll open a thread for the project .. if any dev who owned the one mini 2 can join me on this project
Stay tuned
Ps : to get more free ram to run sense with no lag i will make thread for you guys
My mini don't lag at all I'm running ur ROM will . but I've debloated all the useless apps that HTC like to put on the phone kids mode google + etc I even run the old version of google apps that let's u save maps and keep for longer than a month but as soon as I updated sense home it caused lag so I uninstalled it ..
hey guys ..
someone can make a petition on twitter or via mail to htc for release Lollipop with sense 6.0 on the HTC One mini 2 ..
i cannot believe that they pull out some device and they just left their users ...
Maybe there's still hope...
If someone can talk to them.. ask them for the lollipop .anyone who got a twitter account, send them this message about lollipop for mini 2.
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If someone can talk to them.. ask them for the lollipop .anyone who got a twitter account, send them this message about lollipop for mini 2.
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I have... But they have the same sh***y PR reply stating that there won't be an "optimal performance" in Lollipop
Old tricks from HTC. The same was with Desire HD and One Sv and few more phones. Thats why i change the brand. I still like the HTC phones but not gonna buy me again. I was with HTC since the original Desire was out.
Same for me. I realy like the HTC Device looking. But the One M8 was too big for me, so i decided to take the mini 2. And now i get the same answere as i got for my old good Desire: No Update.
And they cannot tell me that Lolipop will not work on the mini2 It's simply the same hardware as the One M7 and there everything is working.
This was my last HTC and the last Android, too.
That's partially true, m7 has more ram and a different processor, but that's not an excuse in my opinion. The m7 is one year older than our mini 2... And 2nd, there has been no major update, we're still on 4.4.2, as when it was commercialized... Absurd
Just had this convo with HTC. Of course they used the same reply
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Still not reply from them. .. hmm I wonder why..
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Have they replied yet?