I was wondering if on a hero build you could remove the MMS.apk and just install something like Chompsms or Handcent, would you still be able to get messages without the original messaging app sitting in the background?
Luca_Dream said:
I was wondering if on a hero build you could remove the MMS.apk and just install something like Chompsms or Handcent, would you still be able to get messages without the original messaging app sitting in the background?
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Yea you can do that just disable the notification on the original messaging app.
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supremeteam256 said:
Yea you can do that just disable the notification on the original messaging app.
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What do you mean? I'm talking about completely deleting the mms.apk from /data/app_s and just replacing with chomp, would that work?
Luca_Dream said:
What do you mean? I'm talking about completely deleting the mms.apk from /data/app_s and just replacing with chomp, would that work?
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What I was saying was you can just open up your original messaging app and go to settings and turn off your notification and just what other messaging app you want to use. That way when you get a new message it would just notify chompsms/handcent and not the original one. Then make chompsms/handcent your default. I would do it that way so you still got the original on there but use whichever one you want. You never know if you'll run into a problem and need the original one for a back up. I hope that makes sense, I know I was rambling.
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What I was saying was you can just open up your original messaging app and go to settings and turn off your notification and just what other messaging app you want to use. That way when you get a new message it would just notify chompsms/handcent and not the original one. Then make chompsms/handcent your default. I would do it that way so you still got the original on there but use whichever one you want. You never know if you'll run into a problem and need the original one for a back up. I hope that makes sense, I know I was rambling.
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I already do that on other hero builds and it works okay, but when I get a new text I open up cleanoid (or whatever other taskkiller I feel like using) it always shows the original messaging app as a running process and I would like to completely eliminate that so I can reduce as much memory usage as possible and receive all my messages
Ok gotcha. Well I don't have a definite answer and wouldn't want to give you a wrong one, but I would assume you could just remove. Don't know if it would give you any problems down the road. The worst thing that would happen would be to either push the mms.apk back or just reflash a rom.
From what I've been told hope this helps. If you delete the mms.apk your new one will work fine but you will loose the ability to send mms as your other messaging programs still use parts of the original to function properly. You could always try freezing the original mms program with titanium back up that way out of sight out of mind but if you should ever need it again you can just defrost it.
As the title asks, does anyone know how to (or if it is possible to) set Handcent to store messages on the sd card? Or can anyone tell me where they are currently stored so I may back them up myself when switching ROMs?
Thanks!
Not 100% sure but look under /data/data/com.handcent.nextsms and there's 4 folders under there. The databases folder under there has 3 files. Those MAY be it but like I said, not 100% sure. Worth a shot.
I found this using the Root Explorer app.
PS- I HATE your name.
Thanks for the info!
Why ever would you HATE a name?
This looks like it will do the trick for you: http://www.gadgetsdna.com/how-to-take-backup-on-android-platform/1172/
Hope this helps.
PS. Don't mind your name at all.
Thank You!
That is exactly what I was looking for, only better
Oh, and thanks for not hatin' on me
If it counts for anything, I actually dig the name lmao
This may be the same as what's linked, but I use "SMS Backup and Restore". It doesn't back up MMS messages though (just like it's name alludes to).
Glad to be of service. I was gonna go with the SMS back up until I read your title as I was pressing back on the browser and saw the MMS part too. That's what the edit was for... lol Have a good one.
On my Captivate when I recieve a message it's never in order.
For example, I send a test text to a friend at 7:41. When he sends it back one minute later the text ends up behind mine (not in order) and the time recieved says 2:41am.
Is there something wrong that I'm missing? How can I fix this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-783778.html
cappysw10 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-783778.html
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Wow. I tried the app mentioned in the topic and it totally ruined the order of my texts...
Yeah, that did not work at all. Messed things up even more.
Any other ideas?
Use Handcent, it's free, totally customizable and works.
Hypercore said:
Yeah, that did not work at all. Messed things up even more.
Any other ideas?
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don't use auto time/date update
if you use the stock messaging app, try using handcent or chomp and see if it still does it.
Hey guys,
I made a little discovery today while attempting to figure out a way to send native SMS messages on the gear.
What I discovered is a way we can manually invoke the text template popup to any specified number, this can be useful if you want to save various text templates in gear manager and would like to actually send them, rather then only just use them to reply with.
At the moment the only way to preform the intent is using tasker or adb shell, this is more a educational post for those of you who would be considered advanced users can possibly make it a little more user friendly !
Perhaps someone can code a simple app with a contact list so that we can send text templates, @st-tps I'm talking about you
SHELL COMMAND:
Code:
am start -a android.intent.action.VIEW -n com.samsung.accessory.texttemplateprovider/com.samsung.accessory.texttemplateprovider.TextTemplateListActivity -e phone_number 0401010101
*NOTE* Replace "0401010101" with the desired destination number.
I will also include a tasker example once I make one.
Happy hacking.
I´m definitely up for the challange.
I´ll try to get something running as soon as I get some time to look at it.
Another interresting thing is the /data/data/com.samsung.accessory.texttemplateprovider/databases/texttemplate.db wich stores the Templates. If we find a way to edit the db we could actually write what message we want to the db, then open the dialog and chose the newly created message and send it to what number we want. I´we got some ideas about this, I´ll try em out as soon as I get your shell commands working.
That is about how close we can get to native SMS right?
st-tps said:
I´m definitely up for the challange.
I´ll try to get something running as soon as I get some time to look at it.
Another interresting thing is the /data/data/com.samsung.accessory.texttemplateprovider/databases/texttemplate.db wich stores the Templates. If we find a way to edit the db we could actually write what message we want to the db, then open the dialog and chose the newly created message and send it to what number we want. I´we got some ideas about this, I´ll try em out as soon as I get your shell commands working.
That is about how close we can get to native SMS right?
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Oh thats awesome, didn't realize the templates were stored there..
If we can edit the database, We would have a kind of working solution, although I really want to figure out how to send custom text. Rather to relying on the templates.
Also another thing I havnt figured out yet tho is how we can pull the contacts from the phone, it doesn't look like there stored on the gear anywhere that I have found anyway. It seems there pulled from the host phone everytime the contacts app is executed.
fOmey said:
Oh thats awesome, didn't realize the templates were stored there..
If we can edit the database, We would have a kind of working solution, although I really want to figure out how to send custom text. Rather to relying on the templates.
Also another thing I havnt figured out yet tho is how we can pull the contacts from the phone, it doesn't look like there stored on the gear anywhere that I have found anyway. It seems there pulled from the host phone everytime the contacts app is executed.
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My plan is to make it something like this:
Start app, choose recipient and write the message. The message is added to an local texttemplate.db file with only that row. When you press Send, the original texttemplate.db file is renamed, the local one is pushed to the directory, the Reply Dialog opens with only one option (The message you recently created) select the message and it gets send away, the "one row" .db is then deleted and the original one got it´s real name back...
If this works, nothing gets f**ked up by changing in the real .db file. This only my thoughts so we will see if I manage to achieve it...
The contact name and phone number for recieved messages and missed calls are stored in NotificationSync.db in the table SyncNotiInfo and in fields mMainText and mPhoneNumber. I assume that info is used when replying to messages.
fOmey said:
Also another thing I havnt figured out yet tho is how we can pull the contacts from the phone, it doesn't look like there stored on the gear anywhere that I have found anyway. It seems there pulled from the host phone everytime the contacts app is executed.
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i get my contacts through google contacts after tethering with my phone.
the problem with 'stock' contacts was that it took ages to load (i guess it's synchronized everytime you open the app) and most contacts are missing on my list due to custom label (instead of just 'mobile' i use labels like AT&T).
Here comes a real early beta (More like an alpha) of NativeSMS, the most fancy about it may be the progress bar at launch
What it does: list all your contacts (If you´we sometimes synced with Google Contacts that is) that´s got a phone number attached to it, tap a contact and wait until the template box appears, select template and click send.
What it doesn´t do: Sort the contacts alphabetically. Save the list until next appstart. Create own messages.No fancy icon yet.
Download HERE!
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Here comes a real early beta (More like an alpha) of NativeSMS, the most fancy about it may be the progress bar at launch
What it does: list all your contacts (If you´we sometimes synced with Google Contacts that is) that´s got a phone number attached to it, tap a contact and wait until the template box appears, select template and click send.
What it doesn´t do: Sort the contacts alphabetically. Save the list until next appstart. Create own messages.No fancy icon yet.
Download HERE!
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it does work! waiting for further development to ease the whole process, like direct message shortcut
hurdlejade said:
it does work! waiting for further development to ease the whole process, like direct message shortcut
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Ofcoure it does
We´ll see how far we can go on this. Interresting anyways.
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Here comes a real early beta (More like an alpha) of NativeSMS, the most fancy about it may be the progress bar at launch
What it does: list all your contacts (If you´we sometimes synced with Google Contacts that is) that´s got a phone number attached to it, tap a contact and wait until the template box appears, select template and click send.
What it doesn´t do: Sort the contacts alphabetically. Save the list until next appstart. Create own messages.No fancy icon yet.
Download HERE!
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A excellent start ! Works perfectly fine.. for a first release doesn't look bad cosmetically either !
Bravo.
st-tps, i installed nativesms, it gave me an error sub:main_activity_resume (java line: 318) java.lang.nullpointerexeption, because i didnt have the people app installed.
Might want to put some kind of check to see if the app is installed.
Btw im SemRumo in f0mey null chat
maelstorm said:
st-tps, i installed nativesms, it gave me an error sub:main_activity_resume (java line: 318) java.lang.nullpointerexeption, because i didnt have the people app installed.
Might want to put some kind of check to see if the app is installed.
Btw im SemRumo in f0mey null chat
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Great idea, perhaps just throw out a relevant error
"People app was not found, please reinstall rom", also I found you can share contacts via bluetooth which is great... I dont use GAPPS so I've transferred over my "favourites" ! Nice and easy.
st-tps said:
Here comes a real early beta (More like an alpha) of NativeSMS, the most fancy about it may be the progress bar at launch
What it does: list all your contacts (If you´we sometimes synced with Google Contacts that is) that´s got a phone number attached to it, tap a contact and wait until the template box appears, select template and click send.
What it doesn´t do: Sort the contacts alphabetically. Save the list until next appstart. Create own messages.No fancy icon yet.
Download HERE!
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does this work withl 100% STOCK rom?
does this work with stock contacts?
DomZH said:
does this work withl 100% STOCK rom?
does this work with stock contacts?
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No it does not. You must have a contacts database & contacts application in order to use this.
maelstorm said:
st-tps, i installed nativesms, it gave me an error sub:main_activity_resume (java line: 318) java.lang.nullpointerexeption, because i didnt have the people app installed.
Might want to put some kind of check to see if the app is installed.
Btw im SemRumo in f0mey null chat
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I´ll certainly do, good point.
I´ll put in a check for com.android.provider.contatcs in the create part of the Activity, if OK - Load contacts, if NOK - Message box about missing app and then exit.
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Small update, I´we done some tests regarding editing the db file, very unsuccessfull..
Pulled the original db to computer and did the edit.
Try 1: Delete all rows but one and sent back to Gear - App FC when the Dialog would show
Try 2: Only did minimal changes, editet first row only - App FC when the dialog would show
Try 3: Edit one row only, and renamed the journal file aswell, the only valid file in directory is the edited db wich opens fine in Root Browser - App FC when the Dial would show.
Anyone got ideas what´s causing the Template send FC?
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I´ll certainly do, good point.
I´ll put in a check for com.android.provider.contatcs in the create part of the Activity, if OK - Load contacts, if NOK - Message box about missing app and then exit.
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Small update, I´we done some tests regarding editing the db file, very unsuccessfull..
Pulled the original db to computer and did the edit.
Try 1: Delete all rows but one and sent back to Gear - App FC when the Dialog would show
Try 2: Only did minimal changes, editet first row only - App FC when the dialog would show
Try 3: Edit one row only, and renamed the journal file aswell, the only valid file in directory is the edited db wich opens fine in Root Browser - App FC when the Dial would show.
Anyone got ideas what´s causing the Template send FC?
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Permissions & owner ?
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Permissions & owner ?
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Nope, permissions and owner is the same..
The only difference is that the original db file got a journal file attached to it.
Will try to copy both the db and the journal to computer, edit and then push them both back.
Edit: Fail aswell...
st-tps said:
Nope, permissions and owner is the same..
The only difference is that the original db file got a journal file attached to it.
Will try to copy both the db and the journal to computer, edit and then push them both back.
Edit: Fail aswell...
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Hmm, I think we need to dig a little deeper.. perhaps figure out how the JSON requests are being sent to phone and generate our own.
Try to unravel the SDK one line of code at the time.
fOmey said:
Hmm, I think we need to dig a little deeper.. perhaps figure out how the JSON requests are being sent to phone and generate our own.
Try to unravel the SDK one line of code at the time.
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Yeah, I´ll pull the APK and decode it, then I start the search for something usefull.
I would be awesome if we could put the Message as extra content to the intent, just like the phone_number
st-tps said:
Yeah, I´ll pull the APK and decode it, then I start the search for something usefull.
I would be awesome if we could put the Message as extra content to the intent, just like the phone_number
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I know right, would be so easy !
Sadly the phone_number is the only extra which exists
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I know right, would be so easy !
Sadly the phone_number is the only extra which exists
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Too bad,
How did you find the intent content?
I thought you were able to drag and drop images and text between windows when in splitscreen. Is this not possible? I've tried both images and text with no success. Maybe I just don't know the way you're supposed to do it. Anyone use this feature and if so, could you enlighten me please? It would be really cool!
PsiPhiDan said:
I thought you were able to drag and drop images and text between windows when in splitscreen. Is this not possible? I've tried both images and text with no success. Maybe I just don't know the way you're supposed to do it. Anyone use this feature and if so, could you enlighten me please? It would be really cool!
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Only certain apps can. For example
Gallery and Messages.
Yoiu can drag a photo into messages and send a MMS.
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Tidbits said:
Only certain apps can. For example
Gallery and Messages.
Yoiu can drag a photo into messages and send a MMS.
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Does it seem to only be Samsung apps? I was trying to go from Samsung internet to OneNote. No dice.
PsiPhiDan said:
Does it seem to only be Samsung apps? I was trying to go from Samsung internet to OneNote. No dice.
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I believe it might only be Samsung apps. I think some non Samsung ones should but only if they used Samsung's SDK. If I remember correctly what is needed is in there. I have not tried any note apps.
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I create app pair with My Files + My Files .Then use them to drag and drop files or images in split screen mode.