HDMI CEC and Raspbmc - Raspberry Pi Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hallo I am having problem to get my tv remote control working with my Raspbmc Setup.
I have an LG TV (LG 37LV5590) with SIMPLINK which is their version of HDMI CEC. In youtube I saw a video where a person was using the exact same remote to control raspbmc.
In a website it was written that i have to enable it in Setting like this:
Go to Settings -> Network -> Services
Set “Allow control of XBMC via HTTP” to on.
Set the username to “xbmc” and leave the password blank
Make sure the port is set to 8080
I did that. Remote still does not work. SIMPLINK is on in my LG TV.
Any Ideas?

sukulankur said:
Hallo I am having problem to get my tv remote control working with my Raspbmc Setup.
I have an LG TV (LG 37LV5590) with SIMPLINK which is their version of HDMI CEC. In youtube I saw a video where a person was using the exact same remote to control raspbmc.
In a website it was written that i have to enable it in Setting like this:
Go to Settings -> Network -> Services
Set “Allow control of XBMC via HTTP” to on.
Set the username to “xbmc” and leave the password blank
Make sure the port is set to 8080
I did that. Remote still does not work. SIMPLINK is on in my LG TV.
Any Ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, those are directions to set up the Web interface. On my LG, I press a button named simplink on the remote, a menu pops up and I select the device named HDD recorder. Sometimes I may have to do it a couple times before it comes up with the connecting simplink message. I use openelec and xbian previously but it should work the exact same on raspbmc.
Sent from my XT860 using xda premium

That guide is for control from a phone or browser. For HDMI-CEC control you go to
System - Settings - System - Input devices - Peripherals - CEC Adapter
and change the settings you want.
HDMI CEC is definitely not perfect yet. I have had many problems with it. If it is enabled here's a few things that has made it work for me:
Disconnect everything else that's connected to your tv (or receiver).
Turn off and on CEC on both the tv and Pi (and receiver)
Reboot the Pi from the menu (looks like that work best with the tv off, the Pi will try to turn the tv on if you have that set in the settings)
Do you have anything else with cec (blu ray/ps3)? Try that first to see if the tv's settings is correct.
Wipe the Pi, and don't do a restore or change settings. Just test the cec.

trintoidz said:
That guide is for control from a phone or browser. For HDMI-CEC control you go to
System - Settings - System - Input devices - Peripherals - CEC Adapter
and change the settings you want.
HDMI CEC is definitely not perfect yet. I have had many problems with it. If it is enabled here's a few things that has made it work for me:
Disconnect everything else that's connected to your tv (or receiver).
Turn off and on CEC on both the tv and Pi (and receiver)
Reboot the Pi from the menu (looks like that work best with the tv off, the Pi will try to turn the tv on if you have that set in the settings)
Do you have anything else with cec (blu ray/ps3)? Try that first to see if the tv's settings is correct.
Wipe the Pi, and don't do a restore or change settings. Just test the cec.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I tried but did not work.

sukulankur said:
Thanks. I tried but did not work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I beleve you! It's a pain to get working, and it stops working randomly.
Last time it stopped working for me I restored my Pi, Receiver AND TV, and it still didn't work.
I found out it had to be the tv, so a week later i started writing a email to Samsung. I didn't remember what Samsung called HDMI-CEC, so i looked in the menu, and thought "No harm in trying turning it off and on one last time". It just started working. I did not do anything else than turning it off and on.
It had not worked in 1 month. I changed nothing since the factory restores. NOTHING! And it just started working...
Really annoying.

My television is LG mcr62187001 and cec works quite well with openelec (and xbian, sorta). It can take several attempts to get it to connect(simplink), but once connected it have no issues. Maybe try using openlec

Related

Have New LG 47LA6200 Smart TV, SIMPLINK ON, AUTO POWER ON & Cc can't turn TV ON

Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
larryvand said:
Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
I have an LG LM4700, and my AVR with CEC control never turned on/off my tv, but my tv would turn my AVR on/off.
I read on a forum post somewhere (take with a grain of salt) that LG didn't fully implement the full HDMI-CEC spec with SIMPLINK.
SkitchBeatz said:
You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also have an LG BP530 a Blu-Ray player which also has Simplink (HDMI-CEC). With both the TV and the Blu-Ray player OFF, pushing the front play button of the Blu-Ray player, turns the blu-player ON, turns the TV ON, switches to the right input and plays the DVD. In other words the Simplink (HDMI-CEC) protocol as implemented by LG for all their LG devices WORKS.
I'm thinking that HDMI-CEC may be a "standard" but every OEM has only tested their implementation with their own stuff. That is why each OEM uses a different name (Anynet+, bravia link/sync, simplink, Ratga link, etc...) instead of HDMI-CEC. I bet if you put the HDMI signal through a scope and try to isolate the control signals you will find that from each OEM they are just a tad different (maybe a bit longer pulse..).
Google could fix this in firmware of course but they will have to test for each brand individually and in the end possibly they will have to have an option to select the type of TV the user has for the differences in HDMI-CEC implementations. Either that or each OEM will have to update their sets to more correctly adhere to the standard.
This is why I never put much faith in HDMI CEC when I use to install home theaters and media rooms. It always led to inconsistent operation with some devices working and others not. I would always turn that feature off and program a universal remote for the customer.
At least it is switching inputs for you, though. That to me is the most important. Are you mainly using a phone/tablet for chromecast or a PC? If mainly using your phone/tablet, you could use LG's app to turn on the TV before casting. I know it is not ideal, but unfortunately HDMI CEC was a standard but all manufacturers implemented it differently. There is currently no way for chromecast to work the way it was demoed to work across all manufacturers' TVs.
EDIT: Some ray of light is that LG is a hardware partner with Google. Chromecast support might get pushed to your current TV and/or Blu-ray which would solve your problems. If nothing else, I suspect LG to come out with a new Blu-ray player that supports Chromecast.
EDIT 2: I forgot that LG's network protocol does not support turning "on" the TV or Blu-ray so using LG's app will not help you.
In fact I have 3 Chromecasts (for our 3 TVs) and the Chromecast input switching works so well on the LG that I hooked all 3 on the LG and I was able to cast from Chrome at will to one at a time and they would automatically switch to the correct input on each and every time. Now if they can fix the Auto Power ON I will be all set. I also think that LG and Google have a good relationship so they can hopefully work out who will update what (Chromecast or the LG TV) to fix this. I certainly will continue bothering them both (Google and LG) till they fix the issue.
larryvand said:
Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
xuser said:
Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry but no dice. Simplink settings: Simplink ON, Auto Power ON. The TV recognizes the 3 Chromecasts plugged into the 3 HDMI inputs with the Simplink logo on the input TV screen, but it refuses to allow them to turn the TV on. All 3 are powered with the external power brick. However, once the TV is manually turned on, the Chromecasts do switch to the correct input when something is cast to them. So as far as the 2013 LG model 47/50/55LA6200 is concerned, the only issue is that Chromecast will not turn the TV ON even though the Auto Power setting of Simplink (LG speak for HDMI-CEC) is on.
Either Chromecast or LG need to update the firmware for their devices, as I have said before the LG Blu-Ray player with Simplink does not have that problem and is able to turn the TV on just fine.
Placeholder for HDMI-CEC
http://www.quantumdata.com/pdf/CEC_White_Paper.pdf

Just got Chromecast on Monday - some issues encountered so far

The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
FractalSphere said:
The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like you're having issues with their chrome cast's HDMI CEC. It can be used to automatically change inputs to the one the chrome cast is using and even turn on tvs.
You could disable HDMI control for your TV and it would prevent the issues from occurring.
Every manufacturer has a different name for their HDMI Control feature.
Who makes your tv, OP?
FractalSphere said:
The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would suggest to just unplug the USB when not in use if your TV is turning on, I know my brothers TV its a westinghouse turns on anytime something connected to it turns on like the xbox or ps3 or laptop
not so good to know. hope its fixed soon
Andrmgic said:
Sounds like you're having issues with their chrome cast's HDMI CEC. It can be used to automatically change inputs to the one the chrome cast is using and even turn on tvs.
You could disable HDMI control for your TV and it would prevent the issues from occurring.
Every manufacturer has a different name for their HDMI Control feature.
Who makes your tv, OP?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a Toshiba flat-screen, don't know the model. I'll put more detail up tonight when I can look. :silly: I also need to try having it off the Chromecast and starting a session and seeing if it draws the TV to that input. THAT would be nice, but the auto-powering on is a bad bug in my opinion.
My TV turns on automatically when just about anything powers on before the tv is on. Say I turn my ps3 on 1st, it will turn it on. Or plug a USB Flash drive in, turns it on. But, once in the HDMI spot, I can shut it down and it stays off. Very strange.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Chromecast keeps turning my tv on

I have one TV in my house (Toshiba 55HT1U) that keeps getting turned on by the Chromecast. I turn the TV off, and then with a few minutes, the TV will be back on again. Unplug the Chromecast, and the TV stays off. I have tried multiple Chromecasts with the same results, I disabled Regza Link (Toshiba's HDMI-CEC), and it still keeps happening. This also happens whether the Chromecast is connected to my TV or to the receiver which is then connected to the TV. I have read where this particular TV suffers from this issue with other devices, but I wish there was a way to turn it off from the Chromecast end.
Right now, my solution is to go and unplug the Chromecast when I am not using it...hardly an elegant solution.
Have you check the manufacture website of your TV. I know some TV within the last few years, if it have a USB hook up, you can typically update the TV Firmware it may solve your problem. Just a shot in the dark. Also Chromecast is also getting an update.
jumpmanjay said:
I have one TV in my house (Toshiba 55HT1U) that keeps getting turned on by the Chromecast. I turn the TV off, and then with a few minutes, the TV will be back on again. Unplug the Chromecast, and the TV stays off. I have tried multiple Chromecasts with the same results, I disabled Regza Link (Toshiba's HDMI-CEC), and it still keeps happening. This also happens whether the Chromecast is connected to my TV or to the receiver which is then connected to the TV. I have read where this particular TV suffers from this issue with other devices, but I wish there was a way to turn it off from the Chromecast end.
Right now, my solution is to go and unplug the Chromecast when I am not using it...hardly an elegant solution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GreenDroidX said:
Have you check the manufacture website of your TV. I know some TV within the last few years, if it have a USB hook up, you can typically update the TV Firmware it may solve your problem. Just a shot in the dark. Also Chromecast is also getting an update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have seen where some people have tried the update and it made no difference, but I will definitely try this when I get home tonight.
Find your HDMI-CEC options (whatever Toshiba calls it) and turn on HDMI-CEC but turn off Auto power. That will allow HDMI-CEC to switch to the right input but will not allow the HDMI-CEC to auto power the TV.
I have the exact same problem with a Toshiba 46G300U1 so let me know if you find a solution. It seems like a bunch of the Toshiba's all have this problem and I doubt Toshiba is going to fix it. I've tried various different kinds of options (connecting the Chromecast through a cable, a HDMI switch etc.). As long as the Chromecast is switched on and connected to the TV it always turns on automatically. Obviously disabling HDMI-CEC doesnt seem to help. I suspect there is a bug in the Toshiba that still keeps acting on HDMI-CEC signalsI am planning to file a support case with Chromecast as they are more likely to fix the problem (maybe an option to disable CEC on the Chromecast) than Toshiba. But since that is unlikely I am thinking maybe I can try a cable that doesnt properly support HDMI-CEC. It seems CEC is a separate wire and there are lots of people online complaining about cables that don't support CEC.
Try not powering your device via USB from the TV. (If you are) My LG TV seems to have issues with CEC from devices that get power from it via USB. Does weird stuff like this
So I tried updating the firmware on my TV...they said just put the new firmware on a USB stick, then plug the stick into the TV and it will automatically prompt you to start the install. Well, it didn't. I tried 2 different USB sticks with no success.
My "fix" was to just power the Chromecast WITH the USB port on the TV. That way the Chromecast is off when the TV is, so it won't try to turn it back on.
Great idea. I am connecting my USB cable to the TV's USB port for now. I might try connecting the Chromecast via my audio receiver later on. FWIW the firmware update did nothing to solve the issue on my TV.
I don't want to disable CEC on my TV, because I'd still like to have the CEC capability to turn on/off my home theatre automatically along with the TV. I can use USB power from the TV to power my Chromecast, but once the TV is on, my home theatre mutes automatically because it gives up control of CEC to chromecast. It's an unfortunate software decision made by Sony, the maker of my home theatre. I want the home theatre speakers to stay active, but Sony has programmed it to mute when another device on the same HDMI bus takes CEC control.
If you don't want your Chromecast to be a CEC-control device, meaning you don't want it turning your set on at all, or you don't want it overriding other CEC devices, just order lindy-usa.com part number 711110-1, which is a HDMI CEC Less Adapter, Female to Male, and put it inline with your Chromecast. It disables the CEC sense line from your Chromecast to your TV. Problem solved. Neall

[Q] Disable automatic TV turn on?

Hey guys! I was wondering if there is a way to disable the "feature" that automatically turns on the TV when you cast something. This is immensely annoying since I really only use it to play music and I don't want the TV on. When I turn off the TV manually the Chromecast turns off the receiver which obviously turns off my music. Thanks.
Yes some tv's have the option to turn off CEC. In setting you are looking for CEC, linked in, or something to that fact. Ex: I have a Insignia "Best Buy" brand TV. THese are the instructions below to turn it on or off. They call CEC "INlink" for my tv.
In order to be able to use INlink "CEC", go to Settings menu and select INlink "CEC" option. Once there you will find all the INlink "CEC" options where the INlink "CEC" Control can be turned on and off.
dallastx said:
Yes some tv's have the option to turn off CEC. In setting you are looking for CEC, linked in, or something to that fact. Ex: I have a Insignia "Best Buy" brand TV. THese are the instructions below to turn it on or off. They call CEC "INlink" for my tv.
In order to be able to use INlink "CEC", go to Settings menu and select INlink "CEC" option. Once there you will find all the INlink "CEC" options where the INlink "CEC" Control can be turned on and off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem with this is the fact that turning off cec on your tv will also disable other devices from turning on your tv, control of other device via your tv remote (receiver, dvd/BD player/ps3 etc), and lastly will disable the ability to have all devices turn off when you turn off the tv.
So, i do agree that having the option not to turn on the tv (instead turn on the receiver) would be an awesome implementation. Also a better form of volume control would be greatly appreciated (controlling the actual amplifier volume).
All that being said, bubble upnp works really well for streaming google music over. gives me full volume control of my receiver as well as powering it on, tells me the song name on the display etc. So you may want to look into that OP if you have a DLNA compliant receiver (Pioneer SC-1222 is the one i have)
If you want to leave this enabled for other devices, then just use your TVs USB port to power the Chromecast. When the TV is off, the chromecast is off so it cannot possibly turn the TV on.
Except most smart tvs. Power is still provided to the USB. As the TV never really goes off but into sleep mode.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Either per the device through usb on the tv (unlikely to be on when the tv is off) or plug the Chromecast into your receiver. That might not let the cec commands pass through.
Maybe you can block just the Chromecast from passing through. I've never had a receiver with this function so not sure what's possible.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium

Chromecast stopped changing input

My Chromecast recently stopped changing the input on my TV to the HDMI input the chromecast is connected to. Casting works, but I have to manually change input.
Chromecast will turn the TV on, but will not change the input.
I am using a Sony Bravia KDL-46HX701, casting from Android 4.4, and Windows 7.
My router is an ASUS RT-AC66U.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
arns said:
My Chromecast recently stopped changing the input on my TV to the HDMI input the chromecast is connected to. Casting works, but I have to manually change input.
Chromecast will turn the TV on, but will not change the input.
I am using a Sony Bravia KDL-46HX701, casting from Android 4.4, and Windows 7.
My router is an ASUS RT-AC66U.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Make sure HDMI-CEC is enabled on your TV. Refer to the manual. Could be called something else.
I have a Sony Bravia also that had the same problem. When I added a new hdmi device, it stopped the chromecast from switching inputs. I unpluged the new device (a connector for my laptop) and the chromecast switched again. Unplug all hdmi cables from tv except chromecast and see if it switches. Then add cables one at a time. That is what worked for me. I hope it works for you!
DataAndroid said:
I have a Sony Bravia also that had the same problem. When I added a new hdmi device, it stopped the chromecast from switching inputs. I unpluged the new device (a connector for my laptop) and the chromecast switched again. Unplug all hdmi cables from tv except chromecast and see if it switches. Then add cables one at a time. That is what worked for me. I hope it works for you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that's it! the new cable box is interfering with the chromecast for some reason.
were you able to resolve the problem somehow, or did you just stop using the second device?
arns said:
that's it! the new cable box is interfering with the chromecast for some reason.
were you able to resolve the problem somehow, or did you just stop using the second device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Typically the cable boxes hdmi ports are 'always on'. Basically the TV thinks there is always a signal there. Even when the box is off. If you have comcast and an 'X1' box those boxes never turn off even when you use the power button on the remote.
I just left the second device unplugged. I don't use it regularly. I am glad that worked!

Categories

Resources