[Q]Docks for our phone? - LG Optimus 4X HD

Im looking for a really good dock with HDMI out, and if its possible multiple usb ports out.
Just like the Galaxy note 2 dock:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Origina...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item27d1b98c76
If anybody knows a similar dock(s) share with me please.

You will be unable to use it, i think that O4X has "old" mhl which does not supports simoultaneous data and video transfer plus no native host support
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Thats pretty sad

cickvoa said:
You will be unable to use it, i think that O4X has "old" mhl which does not supports simoultaneous data and video transfer plus no native host support
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i think we are talking mostly software here because OTG Host works on LG and hdmi out too ,but i really dont know about simoultaneous actions

i really don't know if we can use MHL and USB hub at the same time, but i use the MHL cable from my HTC Sensation and it works using external power, also, the thing that i do is putting my Sensation on a normal Dock, in the dock i connect the MHL, the HDMI to my 42 inch monitor, and a Keyboard with mouse like whis http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handheld/dp/B00BALK9CM/ref=pd_cp_pc_0...
i have do the same with my LG 4X HD, but without the dock, deffenitly faster and better!
i have my eyes on this
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streame...=UTF8&qid=1373153894&sr=8-1&keywords=mhl+dock

first versions of mhl were 5 pin, second is 11 pin. first CANNOT transfer at the same time, second CAN.
MHL was being developed by the MHL Consortium, a Consortium made up of leading companies in the mobile and CE space that includes Nokia, Samsung, Silicon Image, Sony and Toshiba.
Say thank you to that idiots that decided to made MHL. I prefer micro USB + micro HDMI, but this is probably easier to do.
11 pin MHL was introduces i think with SGS3
5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The first implementations use the most popular mobile connection (micro USB) and the most popular TV connection (HDMI). Other than the physical connectors, USB and HDMI technology are not being used. It is exclusively MHL signaling through the connectors and over the cable.
11-pin "samsungs MHL"-HDMI adapter/dongle
The Samsung Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II and Galaxy S4 use a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously. (Note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB On-The-Go port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III/ Note 2 can power the MHL-HDMI adapter (when used with a non-MHL-compatible-TV). Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
The Galaxy S III was the first MHL device to use a different connector - one that is not compatible with all other MHL devices and accessories. [9][10]
sources are form wiki
EDIT: and yet, i have googled a little, seems that 11pin does not do host and video at the same time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583
so... samsung is being idiot by forcing their standards. Thats why I hate big companies, they are like spoiled children. Idiotic, in 2010/2011 when MHL was not installed in mobiel phones you could use hdmi independent on usb. but now you cant. point of using mhl???

its a bit of a shame, i wanted this phone to be as viable as possible for Ubuntu touch's desktop environment. But its not that much of an issue, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse works fine in that regard

DankoFGL said:
i really don't know if we can use MHL and USB hub at the same time, but i use the MHL cable from my HTC Sensation and it works using external power, also, the thing that i do is putting my Sensation on a normal Dock, in the dock i connect the MHL, the HDMI to my 42 inch monitor, and a Keyboard with mouse like whis http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handheld/dp/B00BALK9CM/ref=pd_cp_pc_0...
i have do the same with my LG 4X HD, but without the dock, deffenitly faster and better!
i have my eyes on this
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streame...=UTF8&qid=1373153894&sr=8-1&keywords=mhl+dock
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Are you using stock rom? I think that MHL video output is bugged in CM10.1.
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I use stock
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MHL cable anywhere?

Has anyone found a compatible mhl cable to order?
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I've tried Samsung and HTC cable but the quality is not top notch. The television says the signal is 720p but it looks kind of blurry... anyone have any information on the video quality outputted from the phone?
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i didn't try it for myself, ebay has a lot ....
ebay {2]
Search on google for: 3m 10 Ft MHL Micro USB HDMI 1080P 3D Cable fr Samsung Galaxy i9100 HTC Sensation
This one works over here.
I tryed my old MHL cable adaptor (bought some months ago for my old SGS2) and the video quality it's great but no digital audio from device. :'(
Some other people tryed other adaptor?
Samsung works great
I bought the one from Samsung original, amazing 1080p quality, best I ever saw on my 40 inch television.
It's the one that samsung offers for S2 and S3 and it works really perfect, no lag, no glitches and it gives amazing high quality.
ikkejr said:
It's the one that samsung offers for S2 and S3 and it works really perfect, no lag, no glitches and it gives amazing high quality.
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But Samsung has different cables for S2 and S3... I have MHL adaptor for S2 and it works perfectly with P880. With sound of course...
Is there a way to wirelessly mirror content? I think the SGS3 can do this with a special apparatus or something.
trudtilp said:
I tryed my old MHL cable adaptor (bought some months ago for my old SGS2) and the video quality it's great but no digital audio from device. :'(
Some other people tryed other adaptor?
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I retried it and great video and audio. Sorry. But only in 720P. My TV it's HD-Ready and not FULL-HD.
My MHL adapter it's a simple model compatible with GS2 and I bought on eBay one year ago. I payed it only 10 euros.
I can see some of you having success in display it on the TV
but I have try two different MHL adapter (I dont know if it is for S2 or S3 but I can;t seem to get it work on a computer monitor with HDMI
are there any sitting I need to change or apps that I need to install???
Maybe some settings in the hidden menu will do the trick for those where it doesn't work (not tested, since I don't own a MHL-Adapter)
Type: 3845#*880# in the phone app and the hidden menu will open. Scroll to the end and choose "HDMI Resolution Test"
There are some Settings, maybe something will make the Adapter work
will try
Hey,
I am occurring the same problem, and its annoying, but credit to Hidden92 in the "resolution" menu under "HDMI Resolution Test" , i have changed resolution to any of them and only once the email on my Samsung TV appeared.
Also i have noticed that the settings that i am selecting doesnt saved and each time i am getting into "HDMI Resolution Test" menu , the settings rolled back to default.
Well...
Anyway , you should try to do this , the less it will work for you
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I have managed to Play movies using MHL cable.
it has been some connector problem, i have moved the cable abit left to right and it begin to work.
Hey MrWunderbaum,
I own 4X and using Generic MHL cable 1080p that was bough for 15$.
Everything works fine.
You should try.
In Addition, LG owns their own MHL cables , but they are abit more expensive.
I tried and mhl 3M cable that is supposed to charge the cell phone while you project, but the problem is that it must be connected to energy to work. the cable is supposed to be designed for samsung SIII and SII
Sorry for hijacking this thread a little bit and pardon my rant.
Not too long ago i bought a mini HDMI to HDMI cable for my Optimus 3D. But now im using 4X, I can't help but feel i've been f**king trolled by LG somewhat cause that cable i had is now utterly useless. Instead they are using this MHL cable.
i mean, why can't they put a mini HDMI port for the good of saving the planet and our wallets like what they are doing for microUSB?
I've got few questions in mind. Are they going to introduce another cable for their next line-up? Is this MHL port here to stay? Nobody wants to spend 30 bucks buying a cable and to have it put out of the picture by the time he change phone next year.
L2Deliver said:
Not too long ago i bought a mini HDMI to HDMI cable for my Optimus 3D. But now im using 4X, I can't help but feel i've been f**king trolled by LG somewhat cause that cable i had is now utterly useless. Instead they are using this MHL cable.
i mean, why can't they put a mini HDMI port for the good of saving the planet and our wallets like what they are doing for microUSB?
I've got few questions in mind. Are they going to introduce another cable for their next line-up? Is this MHL port here to stay? Nobody wants to spend 30 bucks buying a cable and to have it put out of the picture by the time he change phone next year.
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MHL will stay I guess. Mini-HDMI is actually quite useless, it is necessary to add an additional port to the phone for something that can be done using the already existing one (less places where dust can get into the device). The only problem is the high price for MHL cables (The mini-HDMI adapter for my O2X was about 3€).
Cheap and good
I use this: http://goo.gl/13LEr
Play 1080p and Netflix for HD TV very well.
I have ordered myself S2 mhl adapter that also has seperate charging port. I dont need long wire as i already have long hdmi cable connected to tv, so i just needed smaller adapter to connect to tv hdmi cable. Hope it works - mhl + charging
Check out the 1 i ordered (already shipped ) :
http://www.ebay.in/itm/360546818733?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Technical hdmi dock question

Ok lets try and see if I can explain what I mean... im interested in the new smartdock (it has hdmi 3 full size usb ports and charging jack) looks great but its not released here in the uk and its gonna be expensive.
Now I have a generic ebay dock on its way with charge and sync capabilities it has 2 micro usb ports i was wondering if it would be possible to plug a mhl hdmi adapter into one of the micro usb ports of the dock and use the dock for my tv out needs sounds simple enough but...
This is where I get a bit confused I hear the galaxy note 2 supports a new 11pin micro usb mhl hdmi adapter and the old 5 pin hdmi adapter used on the note 1 and s2 wont work. So I suppose the note 2 micro usb socket is 11pin the new mhl hdmi adapter required is 11pin... does anyone know if standard usb architecture on generic docks would support 11pin or 5 pin mhl hdmi as if the docks architecture is only 5 pin it obviously wont work as it would be going from 11pin (phone) through 5pin (the dock) to 11pin (the mhl hdmi). I hope someone understands what I mean.
Or maybe someone could explain to me the differences between 5pin and 11pin and maybe I can work it out myself.
Im totally confused as I thought all usbs were the same apart from speed and that was the beauty of usb its universal serial bus.
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The s3 and note 2 can ouput multi-chanell audio through hdmi. I guess that's why . So far as I know none of the docks supports that configuration....dock...usb...mhl. The smartdock is the only one . I'll go that way...
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calinormy said:
The s3 and note 2 can ouput multi-chanell audio through hdmi. I guess that's why . So far as I know none of the docks supports that configuration....dock...usb...mhl. The smartdock is the only one . I'll go that way...
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The SGN2 micro USB port has may features:
Charging (up to 2A)
OTG Host mode
MHL video/audio
USB Audio stereo output
Docking Profile
If you dig deep into the USB spec. you will find how these seperate features all come together by use of the micro USB - ID Sense pin 5.
My guess is if you attach a SGN2 > generic dock > w/ USB (x2) > HDMI cable > HDMI display <<<< this cannot work as the USB ports have no way to convey the ID Sense pin to the micro USB port of the SGN2.
I'm waiting on stock for the smart dock. I wish it had a method to pivot landscape though.
ZedZardoz said:
I wish it had a method to pivot landscape though.
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App - Ultimate Rotation Control can sort that (using it with the Smart Dock I have presently). Tasker should also be up to the task of sorting rotation issues with the Smart Dock.
Ah so you think it wont work through the generic dock this is shame as it would be a money saver and I have one on the way. I hoped the dock port might just work as an extension of the micro usb port on the phone meaning the mhl hdmi would work as usual but I had my doubts.
I have got an app called orientation control from the play store it was 96p and is very handy and easy to force landscape it even forces lanscape on the stock homescreen great for docking.
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Unusual HDMI port

I have a HDMI cable that works perfectly in a Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Note II, so I was certain there would be no problem using it on the Galaxy Camera, but it seems to be a proprietary port which is a fraction smaller than a micro USB.
I am a bit angry about this, as it means a (probably expensive) Samsung branded cable needs to be purchased. Considering how expensive the camera is, Samsung should have at least provided one.
The other problem is finding a retailer that sells one. I can't seem to locate one as yet.
apprentice said:
I have a HDMI cable that works perfectly in a Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Note II, so I was certain there would be no problem using it on the Galaxy Camera, but it seems to be a proprietary port which is a fraction smaller than a micro USB.
I am a bit angry about this, as it means a (probably expensive) Samsung branded cable needs to be purchased. Considering how expensive the camera is, Samsung should have at least provided one.
The other problem is finding a retailer that sells one. I can't seem to locate one as yet.
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Hi there, with regards to the HDMI port on the Samsung Galaxy Camera, I believe it is using a standard micro-HDMI sized connector. These ports have been in use on Android devices for a while now so you should be able to pick one up for a reasonable price rather easily. Here is an example of a cable that should work: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e6125af08
Good luck in your hunt!
ong.andrew said:
Hi there, with regards to the HDMI port on the Samsung Galaxy Camera, I believe it is using a standard micro-HDMI sized connector. These ports have been in use on Android devices for a while now so you should be able to pick one up for a reasonable price rather easily. Here is an example of a cable that should work: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e6125af08
Good luck in your hunt!
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Thanks for the info, I guess I was so used to a phone's multi use Micro USB socket I forgot that the camera has a separate HDMI socket and that it's pretty much standard! Doh!
I shall now buy a cheap one off eBay.
Thanks again.
I bought on ebay an HDMI cable compatible with GS2 and Note, but with gCam does not work. Does anyone know tell me a compatible model, tried in person? Thanks
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I know that Samsung HDMI cable are not compatible betwwen S2/Note and S3. I believe Note 2 and Galaxy Camera use same new format that S3 and it's probably why it doesn't work for you. but not 100% Sure.
djudenne said:
I know that Samsung HDMI cable are not compatible betwwen S2/Note and S3. I believe Note 2 and Galaxy Camera use same new format that S3 and it's probably why it doesn't work for you. but not 100% Sure.
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Thanks for your reply...
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djudenne said:
I know that Samsung HDMI cable are not compatible betwwen S2/Note and S3. I believe Note 2 and Galaxy Camera use same new format that S3 and it's probably why it doesn't work for you. but not 100% Sure.
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Samsung uses 3 different types of connectors in their devices.
there's the regular mhl connector used in the note 1 and S2 which I think is a 6pin connector.
The note 2 and S3 use a Samsung mhl connector which has 11 pins and also allows you to use usb for sync/data transfer while outputting video.
and there's the regular old standard micro sized HDMI port which is used in the galaxy camera.
It's a tiny little port next to the battery, which requires a $0.50 adapter plug to get a full sized HDMI cable plugged in, or you can just use a cable with HDMI micro on one end and full sized HDMI on the other.
thedicemaster said:
Samsung uses 3 different types of connectors in their devices.
there's the regular mhl connector used in the note 1 and S2 which I think is a 6pin connector.
The note 2 and S3 use a Samsung mhl connector which has 11 pins and also allows you to use usb for sync/data transfer while outputting video.
and there's the regular old standard micro sized HDMI port which is used in the galaxy camera.
It's a tiny little port next to the battery, which requires a $0.50 adapter plug to get a full sized HDMI cable plugged in, or you can just use a cable with HDMI micro on one end and full sized HDMI on the other.
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Thanks... Many many many thanks
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Me too, I bought a 3 metre bog standard HDMI cable for about £2.50 and all works perfectly!
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[Q] HDMI port issue

Hi team,
I just bought an HDMI cable to connect by phone to the TV. The problem is that the cable just wont fit in to Note1. However, it works perfectly fine with Note 2.
I can use the same charger to charge my Note 1 and Note 2. But the HDMI cable port just wont fit inside Note 1 as if its not meant for it. I tried to push it but it refuses to connect.
AFAIK, HDMI cables are universal and can be used on any phones which supports this feature. I may be wrong.
Any ideas what is causing this issue?
lifehijack said:
Hi team,
I just bought an HDMI cable to connect by phone to the TV. The problem is that the cable just wont fit in to Note1. However, it works perfectly fine with Note 2.
I can use the same charger to charge my Note 1 and Note 2. But the HDMI cable port just wont fit inside Note 1 as if its not meant for it. I tried to push it but it refuses to connect.
AFAIK, HDMI cables are universal and can be used on any phones which supports this feature. I may be wrong.
Any ideas what is causing this issue?
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Don't know how it looks on Note 2, but all Note 1 has is USB port into which fits only USB.
Sending screen to other devices is done with MHL converter, which has USB plug which goes to Note, USB port for external power and HDMI port for connecting to TV. I'm sure more info can be found in accessories forum.
PS. I have a vague feeling that questions should generally be posted in Q&A forum...
p107r0 said:
Don't know how it looks on Note 2, but all Note 1 has is USB port into which fits only USB.
Sending screen to other devices is done with MHL converter, which has USB plug which goes to Note, USB port for external power and HDMI port for connecting to TV. I'm sure more info can be found in accessories forum.
PS. I have a vague feeling that questions should generally be posted in Q&A forum...
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The man is bang on, there's no hdmi port on any phone AFAIK... Mhl ports vary pins on generation of phone, so the note2 matches the s3 and I think the s2 matches the note, but it usually states on the product page which models they fit.
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Hi there, It looks like a Y shaped cable. One end goes into the phone (charger port) and on the other side, there are 2 wires (ports), one goes into the HDMI port on the TV and the other goes into the USB port on the TV. The USB port does the job of charging the phone simultaneously while the HDMI does the job of extending the screen from phone to TV. There is no MHL adapter. The cable does all the job.
On the package, it says for Galaxy S3 so I guess it will work only with S3 and Note 2. I need to buy one more which is compatible with S2 and Note1.
My only question is that since the charging port on Note1 and Note2 is similar, how come there is still a compatibility issue with Note1? I was under the impression that the cable/port would be standard for these Samsung android phones and if it fits into Note2, then why note on Note1?
That's called an mhl adapter. The port in the phone is micro usb, so the signal is converted to hdmi.
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Type-C (USB 3.1) and hdmi out

Hello everyone,
I'm thinking about this phone, but my first priority is to be able to connect it via cable with my Pioneer AppRadio (I know there is miracast, chromecast etc - been there, tried both, sound quality with compression is really low).
As this device has USB 3.1 - would any adapter work?
I can't seem to find exact answers if all usb 3.1 type-c devices support hdmi out (or some sort of mhl).
Thanks
I'm also interested in this. Did anyone check if MHL or Slimport is working on Z2 pro?
Hi,
After looking in this site http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z2-8125.php, i can see that this is a usb 2 adapter with a type-c connector.
They also don't mention mhl/hdmi so this means that it is probably not supported.
I don't think there is any relation between usb and mhl or hdmi.
Hope this helps.
I did read somewhere it only supports wifi direct as display output but I can not find my source
It can work, because we can have it with USB 3.1, but we need drivers/settings inside a kernel and custom rom.
I have a usb 3.1 type C module who give me charge, usb 3.0 port and hdmi port, actually, only USB 3.0 port work.
The point is , it's getting harder and harder to find a good phone with 4/4+ GB RAM with video out support. No one really knows why they're moving away from this tech even if it's cheap and easy to implement. Some people say they're trying to promote wireless connectivity, others say having those powerful phones support video out will eventually prevent people from buying entry-level laptops. Anyhow, it's weird. If you know of any device with 4 or more GB of RAM (Sony's devices excluded) that support video out, please let us know!
HTC 10 and LG G5 both support HDMI out.
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youngcity said:
HTC 10 and LG G5 both support HDMI out.
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I forgot to exclude LG too. After G2, their flagships are a disappointment, one way or another.
Anyway, thanx for the info, I didn't know HTC 10 supports it.
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