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[Q]HDMI?

Maybe it's stupid, but I was wondering if there is a cable that starts with our mini usb port and ends with the HDMI port so I can connect it to my new TV? Thank you in advance.

Yes, there is such a cable (see This) but it would be useless, since the HD2 does not currently support it (both software and hardware).

You can probably find one on eBay or Amazon

The HD2 would need to support MHA to send HDM over micro-USB whick requires hardware and software. I've got an MHA cable on its way so will check it on the HD2 anyway and update.
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No MHL in HD2. The HD2 still fights as a near-perfect device but a lack of any easy video output is indeed a missed feature. No cable in android or WM will work, many of us have tried. As jianC said above, it's both a hardware and software problem.
There are 2 ways I know of to output video from the HD2:
The Kensington Displaylink USB adapter, used with a compatible Linux desktop OS install on our HD2 (Ubuntu or Debian).
The Windows Phone 7.8 USB video out software on PC (check the WP7 forum).
There are likely some networked screen mirroring tools that I'm not familiar with as well.
I keep an eye on the Debian/Ubuntu forums regularly for progress on the USB video out they got working on our HD2. If a DisplayLink USB Linux driver can be written to work on Android we all will be quite fortunate.

SlimPort - a new kind of magic? I Doubt it.

Hey all,
seeing all the threads about OTG and the difference to MHL, I thought I'd try to clear things up a bit:
Is this just another name for MHL?
No, it's not. MHL and SlimPort do the same, but in different ways. It's not the same and accessories are not compatible. You will need a new adapter, e.g.
Aren't we being 'appled' here?
Just a little, really. SlimPort does have several advantages, such as support for more than just HDMI and the freedom not to connect a power source, if you don't want to. Also it helps make the device as cheap as it is, because while MHL requires fees, SlimPort does not.
Does this device support USB OTG?
No, not yet. It should be possible though. Analogix (the makers of SlimPort) state their product will pass USB OTG signals to a host controller. Is there a host controller? Yes, there is! The N4's CPU includes one Figures it's a matter of support in the kernel, someone will likely get to this in the near future.
Sounds pretty impressive, huh? I'm afraid it isn't. While most manufacturers switched to a 11-pin design, SlimPort still uses 5-pin according to the whitepaper. Now, what does that mean? There's 3 data lines less, usual USB connections are not even possible, says the whitepaper. So it will most likely not be possible to use video output and OTG at the same time.
Most people will not care about this, but it will be a big deal for those - including me - who want to use it as a 'PC replacement'.
Correct me, if I'm wrong, but I did some thorough research and believe I should be right with my statements here.
Regards,
dobbi10k

I'm disappointed with this switch to SlimPort.
1. I just want to get the display of my phone to the TV. So to me MHL and SlimPort do the same thing and it doesn't matter if they do it differently.
2. I feel "Apple'd" big time. Only one company makes these SlimPort adapters that I could find and they charge $30 for it. The MHL adapter I already own can't be used. Argh.
And I kept hearing about how I wouldn't need a power cable and that was suppose to be an advantage to SlimPort. But reading on their website, it sounds like the TV or monitor must support SlimPort too in order for the power over HDMI to work. Standard HDMI ports from the TV to the adapter will still need a separate power source.
I doubt SlimPort will catch on and I know I won't be spending $30 for an adapter that nothing else will probably ever use.
God, I need a freaking Miracast box that will work with my Nexus 4 in the worst way.

I think you pay the fees with the cable rather than possibly paying fees with the phone for a feature you may not want. I think this is why the cable costs more.
I could be wrong though and its just a company profitting because they are currently the only supplier.
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I thought the micro usb sockets only had 5 pins anyway, so where the hell doe the 6 pins come from?
Edit: Galaxy S III has a 11pin port apparently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link

Ravynmagi said:
And I kept hearing about how I wouldn't need a power cable and that was suppose to be an advantage to SlimPort. But reading on their website, it sounds like the TV or monitor must support SlimPort too in order for the power over HDMI to work. Standard HDMI ports from the TV to the adapter will still need a separate power source.
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No, that was true for MHL, either the screen had to have a power output on the HDMI cable or you had to connect an external power source. SlimPort however makes this unneccessary, you CAN connect an external power source to charge your phone, but you don't have to.
If I already bought an MHL adapter, I would probably feel apple'd too, got you point, though
gbroon said:
I think you pay the fees with the cable rather than possibly paying fees with the phone for a feature you may not want. I think this is why the cable costs more.
I could be wrong though and its just a company profitting because they are currently the only supplier.
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The standard is maintained by VESA and it's completely free. However, the HDMI standard still requires fees, which you pay with the cable. A display port adapter could be made way cheaper. But the latter is true, too. All these adapters could be made cheaper.
tehrules said:
I thought the micro usb sockets only had 5 pins anyway, so where the hell doe the 6 pins come from?
Edit: Galaxy S III has a 11pin port apparently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
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Yup, forgot to mention an example, the Note 2 for example has it too,ty. I believe I heard about other manufacturers planning to do similar things...

[Q]Docks for our phone?

Im looking for a really good dock with HDMI out, and if its possible multiple usb ports out.
Just like the Galaxy note 2 dock:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Origina...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item27d1b98c76
If anybody knows a similar dock(s) share with me please.

You will be unable to use it, i think that O4X has "old" mhl which does not supports simoultaneous data and video transfer plus no native host support
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Thats pretty sad

cickvoa said:
You will be unable to use it, i think that O4X has "old" mhl which does not supports simoultaneous data and video transfer plus no native host support
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i think we are talking mostly software here because OTG Host works on LG and hdmi out too ,but i really dont know about simoultaneous actions

i really don't know if we can use MHL and USB hub at the same time, but i use the MHL cable from my HTC Sensation and it works using external power, also, the thing that i do is putting my Sensation on a normal Dock, in the dock i connect the MHL, the HDMI to my 42 inch monitor, and a Keyboard with mouse like whis http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handheld/dp/B00BALK9CM/ref=pd_cp_pc_0...
i have do the same with my LG 4X HD, but without the dock, deffenitly faster and better!
i have my eyes on this
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streame...=UTF8&qid=1373153894&sr=8-1&keywords=mhl+dock

first versions of mhl were 5 pin, second is 11 pin. first CANNOT transfer at the same time, second CAN.
MHL was being developed by the MHL Consortium, a Consortium made up of leading companies in the mobile and CE space that includes Nokia, Samsung, Silicon Image, Sony and Toshiba.
Say thank you to that idiots that decided to made MHL. I prefer micro USB + micro HDMI, but this is probably easier to do.
11 pin MHL was introduces i think with SGS3
5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The first implementations use the most popular mobile connection (micro USB) and the most popular TV connection (HDMI). Other than the physical connectors, USB and HDMI technology are not being used. It is exclusively MHL signaling through the connectors and over the cable.
11-pin "samsungs MHL"-HDMI adapter/dongle
The Samsung Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II and Galaxy S4 use a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously. (Note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB On-The-Go port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III/ Note 2 can power the MHL-HDMI adapter (when used with a non-MHL-compatible-TV). Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
The Galaxy S III was the first MHL device to use a different connector - one that is not compatible with all other MHL devices and accessories. [9][10]
sources are form wiki
EDIT: and yet, i have googled a little, seems that 11pin does not do host and video at the same time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583
so... samsung is being idiot by forcing their standards. Thats why I hate big companies, they are like spoiled children. Idiotic, in 2010/2011 when MHL was not installed in mobiel phones you could use hdmi independent on usb. but now you cant. point of using mhl???

its a bit of a shame, i wanted this phone to be as viable as possible for Ubuntu touch's desktop environment. But its not that much of an issue, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse works fine in that regard

DankoFGL said:
i really don't know if we can use MHL and USB hub at the same time, but i use the MHL cable from my HTC Sensation and it works using external power, also, the thing that i do is putting my Sensation on a normal Dock, in the dock i connect the MHL, the HDMI to my 42 inch monitor, and a Keyboard with mouse like whis http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handheld/dp/B00BALK9CM/ref=pd_cp_pc_0...
i have do the same with my LG 4X HD, but without the dock, deffenitly faster and better!
i have my eyes on this
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streame...=UTF8&qid=1373153894&sr=8-1&keywords=mhl+dock
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Are you using stock rom? I think that MHL video output is bugged in CM10.1.
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I use stock
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HTC One M8 MHL cable?

Hey guys Im looking for a good quality USB to HDMI MHL cable, that will work with the M8. Any good suggestions?

naurto75 said:
Hey guys Im looking for a good quality USB to HDMI MHL cable, that will work with the M8. Any good suggestions?
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I order one it should be here soon Ill let you know how it works out.

young0ne said:
I order one it should be here soon Ill let you know how it works out.
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Thanks, mind linking the amazon so I can take a look?

naurto75 said:
Thanks, mind linking the amazon so I can take a look?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/351000448039?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
this is where i got mines

Did your MHL cable work for the M8?

I have a cheap one I got for my Samsung s3, and it has an adapter that goes between the phone and the cable and if I don't use that adapter it works fine. I think the Samsung interface has a switched wire that's why it needs it. So not all cables are the same but if the universal one had a removable adapter it will probably work.
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How did you guys got it to work? I bought two different MHL 5pin adapters and none worked. The MHL symbol does appear on the phone but there is no image on the TV. I dont undestand and I am getting desperate, does someone has any tips?
Cheers

A "cheap" MHL cable will probably be MHL 1.0, which won't support 1080p (1080i @ 30Hz max rather than the 1080p @ 60Hz that MHL 2.0 supports)
Most MHL cables are also designed for use with recent Samsung devices, which use a proprietary MHL implementation, which is NOT compatible with non-Samsung devices.
The MHL "standard" is almost totally useless, mostly thanks to Samsung creating this confusion, plus the fact that almost no-one ever categorically states what version of the format (1.0, 2.0 and now 3.0) their devices are.
The new Sony devices support MHL 3.0, if they use a standard implementation then their adapters might be the way to go, assuming they eventually turn up and don't cost an arm and a leg.

Anyone with T-Mobile firmware can please confirm if MHL works?

MHL 3.0 Adapter...

I have been scouring the web & even overseas manufacturers looking for anyone that can provide a MHL 3.0 Adapter. Has anyone seen one on the market yet? Some of the overseas sites are poorly worded, MHL 3.0 USB, but upon further investigation, all have been MHL 2.0 with support for USB 3.0.
If anyone has a source for these, in either single unit or batch lots for resale, please let me know.

GSLEON3 said:
I have been scouring the web & even overseas manufacturers looking for anyone that can provide a MHL 3.0 Adapter. Has anyone seen one on the market yet? Some of the overseas sites are poorly worded, MHL 3.0 USB, but upon further investigation, all have been MHL 2.0 with support for USB 3.0.
If anyone has a source for these, in either single unit or batch lots for resale, please let me know.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-3-0-Mic...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27df8f9066

Only 3.0 is compatible with m8?

I have this one from monoprice, just have to find it and see if it will work with my M8.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_...83314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2#specifications

Vesponew said:
Only 3.0 is compatible with m8?
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NO> Any that aupprts the 5-pin should work fine. It is just that 2.0 & 3.0 don't need external power, if supported by the device, & 3.0 has greater speed & bandwidth capabilities. 4K video & 7.1 surround sound (L-PCM) support.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-3-0-Mic...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27df8f9066
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Except that one states in big red letter that external power is REQUIRED. WHich would make it MHL 1.0. It also states 1080p, again MHL 3.0 supports 4k video. Most of the MHL 2.0 devices also support at least USB 3.0, that one supports USB 2.0, which again supports it being an MHL 1.0 device.
That's the thing, I have found a few that claim to be MHL 3, but none of them seem to pan out to actually be MHL 3.0. Most of the time when you contact to call them on it, or inquire, you get zero response. Ebay is pretty notorious for knock offs too, like the 128Gb & even 64Gb UH1 Micro SD cards.

So there is no mhl 3.0 5pin out there adapter yet.
Which 2.0 5 pin adapter should I be
buying for the HTC One m8?

Badelhas said:
So there is no mhl 3.0 5pin out there adapter yet.
Which 2.0 5 pin adapter should I be
buying for the HTC One m8?
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Good question. I am researching that now. I find it hard to believe that a year old standard still isn't supported by accessory manufacturers, even though it is by the device manufacturers.
I'll let you know what ones I try & how it goes.

GSLEON3 said:
Good question. I am researching that now. I find it hard to believe that a year old standard still isn't supported by accessory manufacturers, even though it is by the device manufacturers.
I'll let you know what ones I try & how it goes.
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Nice, thanks m8

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
I have this one from monoprice, just have to find it and see if it will work with my M8.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_...83314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2#specifications
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That's the same exact one I bought for my LG G2. I assumed the G2 supported MHL, but in fact it supported DisplayPort, so I had this laying around for a while, and it works just fine for the M8.

GSLEON3 said:
Good question. I am researching that now. I find it hard to believe that a year old standard still isn't supported by accessory manufacturers, even though it is by the device manufacturers.
I'll let you know what ones I try & how it goes.
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It might be a year old standard, but devices/phones supporting it are only just now being released. So, accessory manufacturers have had no reason to manufacture any adapters until now. Hopefully it won't be too long until we start seeing some now that there are some devices that can take advantage of it.

Anyone found a working MHL adapter that sells to Europe? Monoprice dosent and I bought one from eBay and it dosent work

Hey Guys!
1 st post here !
Would this work ?
The Rocketfish RF-G1171
I m a newbie I can t post links lol

Badelhas said:
Anyone found a working MHL adapter that sells to Europe? Monoprice dosent and I bought one from eBay and it dosent work
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-Mic..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item27e2c0cb36

Thanks. That's the one I tried and didn't work but maybe it was defective. Did anyone bought that one also? Does it work on the HTC One m8?

For what its worth the one I bought I have to plug things in in a specific order or it won't work. I believe it is power, then HDMI, then MHL into M8. I have to do this each time, if I unplug it from the phone and just plug it back in it won't work until I unplug everything and reconnect in that order.

Nice, thanks for the tip

zenisnotchosen said:
For what its worth the one I bought I have to plug things in in a specific order or it won't work. I believe it is power, then HDMI, then MHL into M8. I have to do this each time, if I unplug it from the phone and just plug it back in it won't work until I unplug everything and reconnect in that order.
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I finally received a different MHL adapter I bought but it still dosent work. I did what you said, first power, then HDMI and then MHL to the phone. The symbol of MHL beeing connected appears but there is onde more no image on the TV. I even tried connecting first power, then MHL and then HDMI but it´s the same thing. Can someone give me some tips, please? I am getting desperate

Did you ever get this figured out? I just used mhl for the first time on my m8. I used the same cable I did for my m7. It's a
Skiva 6.5 feet MHL (Micro USB) to male HDMI cable. I had trouble at first but here's how I got it to work flawlessly: first I plugged everything in, no particular order... Next I plugged in the micro usb part to my m8 while the tv input was still on my normal everyday input... I waited until my red charging light turned on my m8 then I switched to the correct tv input. My m8 went into mhl mode and I streamed a movie perfectly.
I tried switching the tv input first then plugging in my phone and it wouldn't work. But, when I left it on my normal input, then plugged my phone in and saw it was charging, then changed inputs.... Success!

Thanks, I will try if that works. But I've got little hopes, to be honest