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Okay, I surrender...

I was given a g Tablet last week for my birthday. I've spent hours digging through this site and I installed Clockworkmod and TNTLite 4.2.4. I have the following questions/problems...
1) I can't get Market to run. I've installed it using the instructions in this thread but when I click it, the screen briefly flashes white and then the menu page returns. When I go to the Applications menu, the cache is empty.
My other two spring from not being able to get Market running.
2) I desperately need to get Root Explorer running so I can unprotect the system directory and enable Graffiti. I loathe virtual keyboards.
3) I'd like to figure out how to sideload apps. I learned how to install .apk files, but not how to install an app that doesn't have an .apk file.
Again: I've spent hours on this site looking for answers, so please don't 'search is your friend' me. That being said, I'm more than happy to get a snarky, "This took me 3.5 seconds to find" with a link to the answer.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Shawn Stanford said:
That being said, I'm more than happy to get a snarky, "This took me 3.5 seconds to find" with a link
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This took me 0.4 seconds to find...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861044
Once you get market working, you can install root explorer and you're good.

Shawn Stanford said:
3) I'd like to figure out how to sideload apps. I learned how to install .apk files, but not how to install an app that doesn't have an .apk file.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Sideloading apps just means installing the apk from somewhere other than the market. You can't install an app if it doesn't have an apk. The apk is the app. Unless they give you an update.zip or something, and even then, there is an apk in it.

I know this is off topic I got one for my best too I love it
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB using XDA Premium App

Shawn Stanford said:
I was given a g Tablet last week for my birthday. I've spent hours digging through this site and I installed Clockworkmod and TNTLite 4.2.4. I have the following questions/problems...
1) I can't get Market to run. I've installed it using the instructions in this thread but when I click it, the screen briefly flashes white and then the menu page returns. When I go to the Applications menu, the cache is empty.
My other two spring from not being able to get Market running.
2) I desperately need to get Root Explorer running so I can unprotect the system directory and enable Graffiti. I loathe virtual keyboards.
3) I'd like to figure out how to sideload apps. I learned how to install .apk files, but not how to install an app that doesn't have an .apk file.
Again: I've spent hours on this site looking for answers, so please don't 'search is your friend' me. That being said, I'm more than happy to get a snarky, "This took me 3.5 seconds to find" with a link to the answer.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Try this to fix your market
Step 3.
Open the Market app. Once it loads close it (press the home button).
Step 4.
Go into Settings - Applications - Manage Applications - Market - Clear CACHE - Force Stop
(For TnT/TnT Lite... Settings - Applications - System Applications)
Step 5.
Press back once - Google Services Framework - Clear DATA - Force Stop
Step 6.
Go back to your home screen and open up the market. You should get an error. If not, redo steps 4 and 5 until you do.
Step 7.
Reboot your device. After it starts back up let it sit for a minute or two to let things in the operating system normalize. Open the Market. Reboot your device.
Step 8.
Open the market again and enjoy
And to side load my apps i use something like dropbox and place the apps in there and then load the dropbox app on your gtab and any files and folders that you placed in there you can side load. Hope this helps!

Might as well gotten the TNTL 4.4.0, has alot the fixes implented already and stable.
Here the page if you are interested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842004

Here's the problem: all of the fixes to Market require that Market actually loads:
6) Now you are going to re-do the original Market Fix. ... First, make sure Market is running, and browse around in it for a few seconds. If you don't do this, there may be no cache to clear and for some reason the market fix may not work. ...
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As I mentioned: Market has never successfully loaded for me. I get a brief white screen and then the panel I launched from reloads. This is the only app where I'm having this problem.
And, of course, without Market, I'm dead in the water on pretty much everything else...

Use an updated ROM
As posted before, use the latest ROM for what you are trying to accomplish. The fix has already been done. Try the Vegan 5.1 then the 5.1.1 supplement. It is really stable and stuff works.

I know you're asking about getting the market to work with TNT lite, but nobody seems to have an answer for you. So, if you want your tab to just work, including the market, google apps, etc...
1 - Go here http://vegantab.gojimi.com/downloads/ and download VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition
2 - Plug in a USB cable and drop that zip file onto the root of your SD card
3 - Reboot into ClockworkMod (power off, then hold volume + while powering on)
4 - Use ClockworkMod to do these steps:
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- wipe dalvik cache (it's under advanced)
- install zip from sdcard
- - choose zip from sdcard
- - - select VEGAn-GE-7.0.0-RC1-Harmony-signed.zip
- reeboot system now
5 - after it boots up, do the setup
6 - POWER OFF once setup is done - don't skip this
7 - power back on
8 - enjoy the Gingery goodness including the market, google apps, a juicy speed boost, etc, etc, etc.
It will be running VTL.Launcher v1.5. If you like the launcher, or if you just want to thank Gojimi for the awesome rom that was so easy to install (and it just worked with no futzing around), go into the market and buy the new version of VTL.Launcher. It costs almost nothing and you're not going to find a better launcher for a tablet. More info on VTL.Launcer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046302

Just in case you got desperate, started playing around with things and accidentally upgraded to the locked bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036956
And here's the official post about the release of GingerEdition:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031250

DanLynch said:
8 - enjoy the Gingery goodness including the market, google apps, a juicy speed boost, etc, etc, etc.
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Ah, man...
Initial reboot after installing VEGAn is unsuccessful: I'm not getting past the birds.
Crappity, crap, crap...
Is this the 'locked' bootloader? If so, I wish I'd figured that out before I moved on. I can see the instructions for fixing it in that thread, but how do I get the .zip file to tablet memory now?
NVM: Found the 'mount' option in CWM. I'm on it like a jimmie hat. Further updates as events warrant...
Frack! Still stuck on the birds...

After several painstaking attempts to get VEGAn installed, I'm going to reinstall the downgrade to regain use of my pad while I decide where to go from here.

It is a common issue for the tablets to have been shipped with some mixed up partitions. It doesn't seem to bother the Froyo based ROMs, but it causes the GB based roms to hang at the 'birds'.
Find the thread/directions on doing nvFlash. That will restore the tab to the true stock state (including the proper partitions) and you can then flash GB based roms with no issues.

I got my gtab less than a week ago. In this short time, i have tried the stock rom, vegan 5.11, vegan 7 gingeredition and cynogenmod 700/702 and TNT lite 44! And i have to tell you that i loved each one of them!
But before I flashed anything, i followed the instructions in this thread to the letter.
httpi://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245i
My recommendation to you will be to start over and read first then read again and then implement!
For now i am settling on TNTlite 44 as it offers the best combination of what i need. I decided to stay away from gingerbread as hardware acceleration and video playback suffers on it. Vegan 511 is based on 2.2 but somehow i felt graphics were not up to my expected level. Again these are all my personal preferences, so you definitely want to try them all before you settle on your rom.
Having said all this, i greatly appreciate all the hard work from all developers of these rom and thank them for such great options for the gtab!

Shawn Stanford said:
After several painstaking attempts to get VEGAn installed, I'm going to reinstall the downgrade to regain use of my pad while I decide where to go from here.
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Shawn, take a break from it and come back later. It really is worth your time once you get rolling.

nimiaj said:
I got my gtab less than a week ago. In this short time, i have tried the stock rom, vegan 5.11, vegan 7 gingeredition and cynogenmod 700/702 and TNT lite 44! And i have to tell you that i loved each one of them!
But before I flashed anything, i followed the instructions in this thread to the letter.
httpi://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245i
My recommendation to you will be to start over and read first then read again and then implement!
For now i am settling on TNTlite 44 as it offers the best combination of what i need. I decided to stay away from gingerbread as hardware acceleration and video playback suffers on it. Vegan 511 is based on 2.2 but somehow i felt graphics were not up to my expected level. Again these are all my personal preferences, so you definitely want to try them all before you settle on your rom.
Having said all this, i greatly appreciate all the hard work from all developers of these rom and thank them for such great options for the gtab!
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Could you clarify what you mean by this?
I am currently running VEGAn 5, and have no huge problems with it at all, but if TnT offers something better, then I may jump on that.
What do you mean by the graphics not being up to the expected level?

Thanks for the advice, everyone. I did a repartition when I started installing TNT Lite. I assumed it would 'stick', but I'll restart from scratch and shoot for VEGAn for a change of pace. Prolly give it a try tomorrow if I hit a slow patch at work.

Just had a thought...if you just got your Gtab the other day, there is a chance you may have been running the new 1.2 dev instead of the old 1.1(which is what most all the ROMS available are based on) and supposedly the two don't really play well without NVFlashing first...so that may be the issue you are having. Then again it may not. Good luck and I hope it all works out.

When using Vegan 5.1.1 I noticed that some of the graphic elements of the UI would look "shaded" or "grainy" (from a proper viewing angle). Also I have some standard wallpapers that I migrate over whenever I reflash. These were also looking a little lower in quality. Now it may be just me or my specific GTab, but that's what I observed. I did not see this when using either of the Gingerbread roms or the stock rom or the TNTLite.
Before you jump on, remember that TNT Lite 4.4 is essentially closed, and I moved over to try it and plan to stay on it until there is any news about hardware accelerated drivers for Gingerbread or Honeycomb comes along! Hope this helps.

Okay, I tried getting Ginger to work three additional times, including following the original instructions I followed to load TNT Lite step by step: no dice. I'm out of patience with it; at this point I'm running the 4349 downgrade.
I was planning on reloading TNT Lite, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort. I never did get Market or Graffiti to work.

VS910ZVB: "LG Revolution gets bloat-removing OTA update"

From Android Central: "Updates, patches, and bug fixes are included in version VS910ZVB."
I don't have enough posts yet to link, so replace the " [dot] ":
androidcentral [dot] com/lg-revolution-gets-bloat-removing-ota-update

I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.

Haxcid said:
I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.
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I'm rooted but without CWM (still have stock recovery). Can I simply defrost (freezing is all I've done) and get the update? Or do I have to do a hard reset to get back to full stock?
If hard reset to stock is required, any tips or techniques that you use to save time to get back to where you were? Thx.

Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...

Haxcid said:
Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...
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Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
Thx
Mendel

mmp17 said:
Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
Thx
Mendel
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Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.

Haxcid said:
Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.
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I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
Thx
Mendel

mmp17 said:
I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
Thx
Mendel
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yeah I returned my phone to stock with the lg tool and tot file, then did a factory reset, updated, rooted again, used titanium back up to uninstall the rest of the bloat Verizon missed.

While I do not know if the update breaks root or not, you can use the root tool in the dev section (esteem root v2) to root your phone. It works like a charm.

So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
Sent from my VS910 4G using xda app-developers app

me too. I am running zv9 with root. And uninstalled lots of useless apps for me. I tried update, but failed.
wslguy said:
So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
Sent from my VS910 4G using xda app-developers app
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It will rebloat your phone. While they did patch some things, my phone did actually run smoother. I did have to root it again and un-install all the bloat they left, vzw tones, navigator, city id, kindle, slacker, etc...
No better battery life and not much of a performance increase. Id wait if you are happy.

keeps trying to update
I was planning on rooting & putting BrokenOut ROM on my revo when my contract ended. Then this OTA update came out, and I was worried that it would prevent that. So, I rooted the phone and put CWM recovery on and did a backup. As expected, the OTA update failed.
But, it hasn't given up. It tries and tries, about once a day. I hear my phone chirp, and it has rebooted and drained the battery, and shows at various times either the "update failed" screen, or the "updating in 2 minutes" screen, or recovery. When I get prompted to run the update, I defer it - but the deferal time doesn't correspond to when the reboot happens.
It's possible that the rooting and recovery are behind the problem, and not the update - but I suspect the update has something to do with it.
So, what I'd like to know is:
1) if I get the update, can I still use ROM Manager to change the recovery back to CWM, and still be able to flash BO on it?
2) to get the update, is it safe to just use ROM Manager to put the stock recovery on it, then run the update? I haven't done any debloating or other rooty stuff not mentioned above. I'd rather not lose data by reset, tot, etc.
3) can I fix my problem without getting the update? Maybe one of the options on the "update failed" screen? I'm not sure if I've selected only "OK" or only "Cancel" so far - or what those are supposed to mean.
4) do the security updates make zvb better than BO? (Does anyone here no what the security updates are?)
Thanks...

Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.

I.M.famous XMAN said:
Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.
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Yeah, I figured current BO would undo zvb, that's why I was wondering which I should go with. The update downloaded several times, but I don't see anything in /data/local/tmp. Don't know if the download failed or just didn't persist. It hasn't tried to update for the last 30 hours or so. I'm not eager to encourage it at the moment.
I see that haxcid re-rooted, but nothing about re-cwm-ing.

can't find update file(s)
I.M.famous XMAN said:
...someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) ...
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I rebooted my phone, and once again it prompted me to install the update. I selected "defer" and then checked settings / about phone / software update / status which says "Package downloaded successfully".
However, /data/local/tmp is still an empty directory, according to ES File Explorer.

That's where the file was stored for v7, v8, and v9. Maybe they changed it for this update. IDK. I'll look into it. No worries. It's all good.

I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB

OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB
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Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9

dbeauch said:
Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9
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Not really. I believe MT disabled the update feature from BO; hence the 'super fast' FC's at boot.

Andoid 4.3 Discussion

So finally Android 4.3 has arrived and our Beloved Nexus 7 is Upgradable Now.....
here is the link to the download of factory Image:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasijwr66v
Follow this Method and flash the New Android OS...
[GUIDE] Flashing a Factory Image with fastboot / return to stock Thanks @comminus for a great Guide...
Report Back with screenShots and new featuers as well as Bugs because new pudates bring New Bugs.....

The update brought a new bootloader version...android 4.2.2 had 4.18 and 4.3 has 4.23.....

hassam_tariq2003 said:
The update brought a new bootloader version...android 4.2.2 had 4.18 and 4.3 has 4.23.....
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Did you lose boot loader unlock or root when you installed 4.3? I'm assuming you used fastboot to install not OTA? Just curious...I'll be playing tonight when I get home.

tbonezx11 said:
Did you lose boot loader unlock or root when you installed 4.3? I'm assuming you used fastboot to install not OTA? Just curious...I'll be playing tonight when I get home.
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You lose root but your bootloader remains unlocked.
Has anyone been able to root 4.3? Tried to root and flash custom recovery with the Nexus 7 toolkit, but I don't think it's working.

mhl12 said:
You lose root but your bootloader remains unlocked.
Has anyone been able to root 4.3? Tried to root and flash custom recovery with the Nexus 7 toolkit, but I don't think it's working.
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haven't tried it (I'm yet to receive the update) but someone referenced this link: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Chainfire/posts/WqS2E9kkN1L

he is right.....You loose root but bootloader remains unlocked...
i have heard people say that you do not loose root if you use the OTA Method and your bootloader also remains unlocked....So its your choice its either Fastboot or OTA...

Just use OTA Rootkeeper, you'll be fine.
Just remember kids.
You cannot use an OTA if your ROM is modified in ANY WAY.

Yeah OTA wont work for most people, seeing as they probably have a modified ROM. In any sense, chainfire has a root method that works. I can confirm it working, because I installed it using TWRP

khaytsus said:
Just use OTA Rootkeeper, you'll be fine.
Just remember kids.
You cannot use an OTA if your ROM is modified in ANY WAY.
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When 4.2.2 came out I had problems updating because my ROM was modified. But someone modified OTA not to check for changes in ROM and it worked.

no OpenGL ES 3.0 for us?
according to http://developer.android.com/:
"OpenGL ES 3.0 is an optional feature that depends on underlying graphics hardware. Support is already available on Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 4, and Nexus 10 devices."

I am running 4.3 unlocked but I did the one click method for root using nexus tool kit and for some reason it did not work, I have to try again tonight.

Want a single click ADB setup? Go to my thread I've made a Tool for that. No need to download the whole SDK it's just 2MB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2374071
What to know how to easily pull ota link with ADB follow my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270429
For official nexus 7 windows 7 - 8 driver download them from ASUS site. No trickery needed.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk HD
Team SXTP

So, I played around a bit,
First of all, I did a "clean, unrooted and even locked bootloader install".
So I'm 1000% stock, just to avoid stuff like "maybe root caused it"..
(I locked it because I wanted to go 100% stock, just FYI, I know it's normally not necessary...)
The welcome screen was a bit weird... I got asked 2 times to tick or untick boxes for saving passwords and all that stuff.. (I think they mixed up the new and the old "first boot setup"?)
The Apps and widgets in the drawer were kinda confused, took 2 reboots for them to settle... (Icons disappeared and reappeared.. The widget tab in the drawer threw some widgets in and out, and the previews were mixed up, so dots and a weird sign was the result (as a preview of the widget)...
The initial setup was pretty laggy, but after setting stuff up, until now, yes I can say the performance of the nexus 7 is improved..
First I was like "OH HELL NO" but after the setup and the reboot everything was smooth...
Oh, and the back button was destroyed 1 time, blinked up but didn't go back... I pressed the home button and it worked then.
Edit: And sadly, no new wallpapers in stock... ):
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

I booted it up, restored my Google Play stuff (flashed a factory image, completely wiped everything from it, so it's clean, I think).
It lagged a lot, so I rebooted it and it still isn't 4.2.2 smooth. Maybe it's just me, I'll see.
Is it just me, or does it feel like the only thing that changed for us is the number in settings menu besides Google Apps?
OpenGL ES as it was already said, doesn't appear to be here for us, not to mention the fact that Miracast had never actually worked on N7 until recently when someone had it ported over.

Has anyone managed to find the link for the OTA yet?

SO I flashed the stock 4.3 kernel on a 4.2.2 rom and discovered that the stock android 4.3 kernel breaks wifi and gps on 4.2.2...

Eregoth said:
Has anyone managed to find the link for the OTA yet?
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I have literally hours working on that.

Flashed the stock image using fastboot, took like 2 minutes to do, flashed the chainfire root patch and rebooted and restored apps, so far everything is pretty smooth no disappearing apps or icons or buttons, the kernel seems to be quicker, opening websites was quite a bit quicker, one thing I noticed while trying out different browsers was ads opening up new tabs automatically, that's something that's never happened before.

ffaiz.m said:
no OpenGL ES 3.0 for us?
according to http://developer.android.com/:
"OpenGL ES 3.0 is an optional feature that depends on underlying graphics hardware. Support is already available on Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 4, and Nexus 10 devices."
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Tegra 3 does not support GLES3. Even Tegra 4 won't, because nvidia are still using their old gpu architecture.

What's the performance like? Better than 4.2 or 4.1?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium

[Rom][VZW_Hybrid_BRA1][Stock_SafetyNet_SamsungPay][No_Root_Required_To_Install/Run]

This is for Verizon S7 Edge Only
This is for those that would like a slightly modified custom rom with all the features enabled that stock Verizon roms block. With the ability to still have working Samsung Pay and pass SafetyNet check. You can run this rom as is and never have to root if you don't want too. Root is not required to install rom.​
Feature:
Easy Root/Unroot Feature Simply Flash Eng Boot Image To Root And One Button Click Too Unroot.
Working WifiCalling VOLTE Verizon Cloud And VVM
S8 Phone And InCallUI
S8 Launcher
S8 Gallery
S8 MyFiles
S8 Clock
S8 Calendar
S8 Messages
Flashfire Preinstalled(Only Works If Rooted)
Adaway Add Blocking (Can Be Enabled Only If your Rooted)
AdHell Ad Blocking(NonRoot AdBlocking)
Updated Camera App
Native Network Speed Meter In Status Bar
Native Call Recording Enabled With Auto Call Record Feature
Spam Caller ID
Nearby Places
Samsung Cloud
Multi Users
Native Screen Recorder
Floating Messages
Extra Fonts
App Lock
Device Maintenance Feature
HotSpot Hack For Old Unlimited Plans
Working Samsung Pay(Only If Unrooted)
SafetyNet Pass(Only If Unrooted)
If Rooted Kernel Set To Permissive
Lockscreen Torchlight
Access To Keylight Menu
Access To Outdoor Mode
Accesss To Advanced Phone Menu
Bugs:
Secure Folder Does Not Work But Private Mode And App Lock Still Do
If Adhell Will Not Activate This is Samsung Blocking It Not A Bug In The Rom If This Happens Try AdHell2
Download:
EASY_ROOT_ROM.zip
For Totally Custom Rom Of This Concept Please Visit
http://stang5litre-roms.proboards.com/
Directions:
This Will Wipe Your Phone
Must Start Process On Verizon Firmware. Not Ufirmware.
Make Sure Samsung Drivers Are Installed On Computer
Reboot Phone To Download Mode/Bootloader Mode And Plug Phone Into Computer
Run Verizon.bat File And Follow Directions
After Rom Is Installed If You Need To Root To Change Something
Directions To Root Rom:
Use Odin And Flash AP_SM_G935_ENG_BOOT_IMG.tar
Directions To UnRoot Rom:
In Rom Control Under Phone Settings Click To Unroot Rom
Thanks And Credits:
stang5litre
jds3118
krog18
elliwigy
echoe rom and noname rom
klabit87
stang5litre Test Group
Kernel source
RomControl Source

Mine

Nice bud more stuff for people to play with!!!! Great work as usual ??

Sorry if this is a dumb question but is this MM or N? Thanks

ToyoRob said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question but is this MM or N? Thanks
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Nougat

sweet. ill check it out next time i start twitchin to flash lol

This really could not have been easier.. all flashed and booted up!! Thanks!!!

drt054 said:
This really could not have been easier.. all flashed and booted up!! Thanks!!!
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Thanks for the feed back. Im glad it went good

Hello friend, I have a verizon model and I thought I would never see any good custom rom.
I would like to try it, but first I would like to know if this process increases the number of knox.
my phone has never been uploaded from knox x0.0, it has never been rooted or anything like that

Just one request.. please get the center clock mod and battery indicator mods back from the noname ROM in the next version. This has been great so far on battery and all. In the past I only needed root for batch restore of apps via TiBu and the hacked Wifi Tether since I'm still on Old VZW grandfathered plan.. but this ROM is still going well. I tried restoring 3minit Battery mod but it did not go well.. lol No hurry.. Thanks again!!!

drt054 said:
Just one request.. please get the center clock mod and battery indicator mods back from the noname ROM in the next version. This has been great so far on battery and all. In the past I only needed root for batch restore of apps via TiBu and the hacked Wifi Tether since I'm still on Old VZW grandfathered plan.. but this ROM is still going well. I tried restoring 3minit Battery mod but it did not go well.. lol No hurry.. Thanks again!!!
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Everything you requested is in this rom
For Totally Custom Rom Of This Concept Please Visit
http://stang5litre-roms.proboards.com/

Hi and thanks for the ROM, I receive "The system cannot find the file 1.cmd." when i press any key to continue after opening the Verizon.bat file. I made sure i extracted everything fine and downloaded correctly.

smata29 said:
Hi and thanks for the ROM, I receive "The system cannot find the file 1.cmd." when i press any key to continue after opening the Verizon.bat file. I made sure i extracted everything fine and downloaded correctly.
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In the folder with all the stuff right click with mouse inside that folder and choose open command window here. In that command window type Verizon.bat hit enter

Does this work using some kind of engineering recovery/bootloader? Before I know that it wasn't possible to modify files inside the standard recovery image.
Could we also make modifications to the system and data partitions using this recovery(flashing the custom BL, making changes, and then going back) rather than the eng kernel? I had experimented with making tar backups of the /data partition with the eng boot.img in the past but they were unstable as I was reading and writing to a mounted partition.
I flash often so this would save having to resetup all the items that smartsync doesn't catch.

Great job by the way on this! I just had a question regarding the phone UI. The places tab, are you able to get this to work? I personally don't know what is missing to enable this. Any help would be appreciated. Again great job though on this ROM!

jrkruse said:
Mine
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Hello friend, I have a verizon model and I thought I would never see any good custom rom.
I would like to try it, but first I would like to know if this process increases the number of knox.
my phone has never been uploaded from knox 0x0, it has never been rooted or anything like that

jrkruse said:
In the folder with all the stuff right click with mouse inside that folder and choose open command window here. In that command window type Verizon.bat hit enter
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Not working because windows 10 removed open command ....... can this rom can be installed in different way ? Like Flash Fire ?

diegochiva95 said:
Hello friend, I have a verizon model and I thought I would never see any good custom rom.
I would like to try it, but first I would like to know if this process increases the number of knox.
my phone has never been uploaded from knox 0x0, it has never been rooted or anything like that
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This won't trip the Knox counter
Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

alin919 said:
Not working because windows 10 removed open command ....... can this rom can be installed in different way ? Like Flash Fire ?
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lots of people have flashed this using windows 10

jrkruse said:
lots of people have flashed this using windows 10
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Been saying in my case is not working , got new laptop and adb command is working , i can run root command or add block , but i cant run it in this rom and i dont know why . Any tips ? Thank you.

How to downgrade/improve performance over custom Titan ROM (ViperOS 7.1.2)?

Hi, I've been using my Moto G Titan (dual-sim) for about 4 years now, mostly with custom rom the whole time (CM 12.1 back then). I upgraded to a Moto G3 TE (and used custom roms from xda here) over a year ago. So then on this phone (titan) I updated the firmware and ROM and passed it on to my wife. I put on Viper OS 7.1.2 on it and initially it was working great. Over time though it increasingly slowed down and clearing the cache and such didn't seem to help (my wife didn't really complain much because she never liked using smart phones anyway and she just thought it *has* to be a poor user experience). I also had my phone (Moto G3 TE) stolen about a month ago, so while I'm waiting to get a new phone my wife and I are sharing this phone (Titan) with two different accounts. Talk about sloooooooooow! So now I realize I REALLY need a different rom. Or is it possible the RAM or something is just old and no longer working right?
I've read on here that many people suggest downgrading to stock lollipop or something like that. Others suggest a custom Marshmallow rom. I honestly don't care too much what I downgrade to as long as the most common apps (gmail, facebook, whatsapp - ones for keeping in touch and getting work done, that sort of thing) are working. Oh, and pinterest, that's the one thing my wife loves. I would like to keep an OS version that allows me to used mixed storage (mixed between adopted/portable) if possible, because that helps me with the low amount of internal memory. But I can give that up if necessary, because above all I want it to be smooth, because this lag is ridiculous! Sometimes a phone call comes in and it's ringing but it takes so long for the screen that shows I can accept/reject the call to pop up that by then the caller has already hung up (like over 10 seconds sometimes)! So yeah, I really want a rom that's responsive again and can do those most basic apps.
My questions is: if I'm on ViperOS 7.1.2 and if lollipop or marshmallow (whether stock or custom) is best - then how do I downgrade to those? I have TWRP and root and all that on here already and I'd love it if I could just do it by TWRP since that'd be the easiest for me. But I'll do whatever I need to as long as I can truly understand the step-by-step directions and not brick this phone. (Since right now it's the ONLY phone my wife and I have to work with until I get a new one in another month or two... and even still I'd like my wife to be able to use this one more easily.) I read somewhere that if I have a newer firmware maybe I can't return directly to an older OS? Any information on how to switch OS without messing up my phone would help a lot!
So, please give me a suggestion as to which OS gives you great responsiveness/speed (doesn't lag you down for phone calls especially, but no lag on any other basic programs would also be great). And regarding the OS you suggest, please tell me what steps I need to take to switch/downgrade to it and/or anything else I need to do to keep it going fast. I found this post, but to be honest, it's just not very clear to me what I'd actually have to *do*: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/opinion-best-rom-experience-t3546088 So if you could give me a clear step-by-step guide (or point me to one or more threads/posts that I'd link the processes together), that'd be SUPER helpful! Thanks in advance for any help any of you can offer!

madagascaradam said:
Hi, I've been using my Moto G Titan (dual-sim) for about 4 years now, mostly with custom rom the whole time (CM 12.1 back then). I upgraded to a Moto G3 TE (and used custom roms from xda here) over a year ago. So then on this phone (titan) I updated the firmware and ROM and passed it on to my wife. I put on Viper OS 7.1.2 on it and initially it was working great. Over time though it increasingly slowed down and clearing the cache and such didn't seem to help (my wife didn't really complain much because she never liked using smart phones anyway and she just thought it *has* to be a poor user experience). I also had my phone (Moto G3 TE) stolen about a month ago, so while I'm waiting to get a new phone my wife and I are sharing this phone (Titan) with two different accounts. Talk about sloooooooooow! So now I realize I REALLY need a different rom. Or is it possible the RAM or something is just old and no longer working right?
I've read on here that many people suggest downgrading to stock lollipop or something like that. Others suggest a custom Marshmallow rom. I honestly don't care too much what I downgrade to as long as the most common apps (gmail, facebook, whatsapp - ones for keeping in touch and getting work done, that sort of thing) are working. Oh, and pinterest, that's the one thing my wife loves. I would like to keep an OS version that allows me to used mixed storage (mixed between adopted/portable) if possible, because that helps me with the low amount of internal memory. But I can give that up if necessary, because above all I want it to be smooth, because this lag is ridiculous! Sometimes a phone call comes in and it's ringing but it takes so long for the screen that shows I can accept/reject the call to pop up that by then the caller has already hung up (like over 10 seconds sometimes)! So yeah, I really want a rom that's responsive again and can do those most basic apps.
My questions is: if I'm on ViperOS 7.1.2 and if lollipop or marshmallow (whether stock or custom) is best - then how do I downgrade to those? I have TWRP and root and all that on here already and I'd love it if I could just do it by TWRP since that'd be the easiest for me. But I'll do whatever I need to as long as I can truly understand the step-by-step directions and not brick this phone. (Since right now it's the ONLY phone my wife and I have to work with until I get a new one in another month or two... and even still I'd like my wife to be able to use this one more easily.) I read somewhere that if I have a newer firmware maybe I can't return directly to an older OS? Any information on how to switch OS without messing up my phone would help a lot!
So, please give me a suggestion as to which OS gives you great responsiveness/speed (doesn't lag you down for phone calls especially, but no lag on any other basic programs would also be great). And regarding the OS you suggest, please tell me what steps I need to take to switch/downgrade to it and/or anything else I need to do to keep it going fast. I found this post, but to be honest, it's just not very clear to me what I'd actually have to *do*: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/opinion-best-rom-experience-t3546088 So if you could give me a clear step-by-step guide (or point me to one or more threads/posts that I'd link the processes together), that'd be SUPER helpful! Thanks in advance for any help any of you can offer!
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As you are currently running android nougat. I suggest you Cosmic Os 7.1.2 AOSP based.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-cosmic-os-t3576987
I've been using it over more than 2-3 months as my daily driver. It doesn't lag and 300+ RAM is always free with no apps open in background.
Still if you want to downgrade to marshmallow or lollipop, you'll have to do it using a PC or laptop.

!!!!!!!Root2!!!!!! said:
As you are currently running android nougat. I suggest you Cosmic Os 7.1.2 AOSP based.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-cosmic-os-t3576987
I've been using it over more than 2-3 months as my daily driver. It doesn't lag and 300+ RAM is always free with no apps open in background.
Still if you want to downgrade to marshmallow or lollipop, you'll have to do it using a PC or laptop.
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OK, that sounds like a good start! Thanks for your suggestion! I'll wait for a few more responses and info before I decide what route to try first. If I do want to downgrade, what method do I use from PC or laptop? I've used the quickboot/adb shell commands with no trouble before, but only because I've seen step-by-step guides that tell me *what* to put in the adb shell, etc. So, can you help give me a guide on how I'd downgrade or point me to one that has a downgrade that's really fast?

madagascaradam said:
OK, that sounds like a good start! Thanks for your suggestion! I'll wait for a few more responses and info before I decide what route to try first. If I do want to downgrade, what method do I use from PC or laptop? I've used the quickboot/adb shell commands with no trouble before, but only because I've seen step-by-step guides that tell me *what* to put in the adb shell, etc. So, can you help give me a guide on how I'd downgrade or point me to one that has a downgrade that's really fast?
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I don't recommend downgrading to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they lack RAM management and heat up the phone while gaming plus Ui is not that good. Android Nougat has better RAM management with fluid performance and battery backup is good as well.
Here's Stock Marshmallow TWRP backup thread and it's detailed enough so that you won't brick your phone
Take a Nandroid backup before.
First, what's the model of your Titan and country?

I think it's not a good idea to downgrade to older stock as it might lead to device getting bricked .... luckily I have never faced such as an issue as I always stick to custom ROMs for my Titan ....I request you to look up Titan downgrade brick stories and get a better idea about how to avoid it ....
Also have you tried using Aex 5.6 on your phone with evolution kernel? it used to work brilliantly on mine before I jumped on to renans los 16 pie builds

!!!!!!!Root2!!!!!! said:
I don't recommend downgrading to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they lack RAM management and heat up the phone while gaming plus Ui is not that good. Android Nougat has better RAM management with fluid performance and battery backup is good as well.
Here's Stock Marshmallow TWRP backup thread and it's detailed enough so that you won't brick your phone
Take a Nandroid backup before.
First, what's the model of your Titan and country?
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Thanks for the extra advice. You didn't actually include the link for the thread though. Were you just waiting for my model # (below)? But yes, I'm used to doing the Nandroid backups through TWRP so that's no challenge for me.
It's an XT1068. I bought it from Amazon US but I'm living in Madagascar and have used it here most the time I've had it. It's also worked for me in South Africa and USA though too.
Anyway, I'll appreciate the link to the stock marshmallow twrp backup thread, in case that's the route I decide to go! I won't be doing any gaming on it though (wife's phone) and just need it to work well enough for phone calls, messages, and other important aspects of life. And yeah, I like the newer UI, but if it's too slow, I can't do much with it! So I'll have to think about the other suggestions people have given here and also weigh it in with the possibility of downgrading to marshmallow with that detailed step-by-step so I won't brick my phone.

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I think it's not a good idea to downgrade to older stock as it might lead to device getting bricked .... luckily I have never faced such as an issue as I always stick to custom ROMs for my Titan ....I request you to look up Titan downgrade brick stories and get a better idea about how to avoid it ....
Also have you tried using Aex 5.6 on your phone with evolution kernel? it used to work brilliantly on mine before I jumped on to renans los 16 pie builds
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Thanks also for your advice. I've never been bricked either, but I don't want to start, especially since we're down to 1 phone in my family right now! If someone can tell me that downgrading is definitely way smoother (as I've seen written on a few threads here, but without detailed instructions on how to do it) and if they say I can do it without bricking, then I might take that route. I haven't tried AEX on this phone, though I was using it on my Moto G3 TE before it got stolen. So yeah, that's a good idea if you say it works great. Can you link to a thread for me? Particularly when you say "with evolution kernel"... in the past I don't think I've tried a different kernel for my rom, I've always just followed step-by-steps for flashing a custom rom and gapps, that sort of thing. So if I have to do an extra step for the evolution kernel, please also tell me how or where to find the thread about it. Thanks again for your help!

madagascaradam said:
Thanks for the extra advice. You didn't actually include the link for the thread though. Were you just waiting for my model # (below)? But yes, I'm used to doing the Nandroid backups through TWRP so that's no challenge for me.
It's an XT1068. I bought it from Amazon US but I'm living in Madagascar and have used it here most the time I've had it. It's also worked for me in South Africa and USA though too.
Anyway, I'll appreciate the link to the stock marshmallow twrp backup thread, in case that's the route I decide to go! I won't be doing any gaming on it though (wife's phone) and just need it to work well enough for phone calls, messages, and other important aspects of life. And yeah, I like the newer UI, but if it's too slow, I can't do much with it! So I'll have to think about the other suggestions people have given here and also weigh it in with the possibility of downgrading to marshmallow with that detailed step-by-step so I won't brick my phone.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/moto-g-indian-xt1068-marshmellow-6-0-t3313148

The links to Aex and evolution kernel for titan
madagascaradam said:
Thanks also for your advice. I've never been bricked either, but I don't want to start, especially since we're down to 1 phone in my family right now! If someone can tell me that downgrading is definitely way smoother (as I've seen written on a few threads here, but without detailed instructions on how to do it) and if they say I can do it without bricking, then I might take that route. I haven't tried AEX on this phone, though I was using it on my Moto G3 TE before it got stolen. So yeah, that's a good idea if you say it works great. Can you link to a thread for me? Particularly when you say "with evolution kernel"... in the past I don't think I've tried a different kernel for my rom, I've always just followed step-by-steps for flashing a custom rom and gapps, that sort of thing. So if I have to do an extra step for the evolution kernel, please also tell me how or where to find the thread about it. Thanks again for your help!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-8-t3829769
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/kernel-evolution-kernel-t3514843

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-8-t3829769
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/kernel-evolution-kernel-t3514843
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Thanks a lot! How do I use a different kernel than the one that comes with the ROM? Do I flash/install AEX first and *then* follow those directions for the evolution kernel? Or do I do the kernel first and then AEX? And I'm assuming I download the first kernel download link on that page (the one that says Marshmallow/Nougat Roms and "R10")? Basically, I'd really appreciate it if you'd offer more information on what it means to switch kernels and how to do that? Thanks again for your help!

Download Aex then install it first
madagascaradam said:
Thanks a lot! How do I use a different kernel than the one that comes with the ROM? Do I flash/install AEX first and *then* follow those directions for the evolution kernel? Or do I do the kernel first and then AEX? And I'm assuming I download the first kernel download link on that page (the one that says Marshmallow/Nougat Roms and "R10")? Basically, I'd really appreciate it if you'd offer more information on what it means to switch kernels and how to do that? Thanks again for your help!
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Install rom first then make a backup of only boot install kernel after that , there is a another version of evolution kernel with overclock enabled if you feel that evolution is slow try evolutionX ,it's bit of a battery hog but runs like butter.
Switching kernels gives you access to better features in you kernel like updated tweaks, governors overclock ,undervolt ,sound gain boost etc which the stock kernel doesn't provide in most cases .....only few kernels are as up-to-date with extra features as evolution imo so try it if you don't like how it performs you can tweak it more with kernel aduitor ,for faster feeling phone I normally disable all animations under devoloper options .you can also flash evolutionx to see if it suits you or not just restore the boot backup you made and flash it then test ......
Get the kernel for Oreo as Aex 5.8 is Oreo
Before flashing plz make sure twrp is updated
Always backup important data into your mircosd card or PC
I recommend a full wipe ( system ,data, internal storage,caches) with twrp and then install the new ROM
Do let me know how it goes ....

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Install rom first then make a backup of only boot install kernel after that , there is a another version of evolution kernel with overclock enabled if you feel that evolution is slow try evolutionX ,it's bit of a battery hog but runs like butter.
Switching kernels gives you access to better features in you kernel like updated tweaks, governors overclock ,undervolt ,sound gain boost etc which the stock kernel doesn't provide in most cases .....only few kernels are as up-to-date with extra features as evolution imo so try it if you don't like how it performs you can tweak it more with kernel aduitor ,for faster feeling phone I normally disable all animations under devoloper options .you can also flash evolutionx to see if it suits you or not just restore the boot backup you made and flash it then test ......
Get the kernel for Oreo as Aex 5.8 is Oreo
Before flashing plz make sure twrp is updated
Always backup important data into your mircosd card or PC
I recommend a full wipe ( system ,data, internal storage,caches) with twrp and then install the new ROM
Do let me know how it goes ....
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Great, thanks for the advice! My weekend is busy but I'm going to give it a go on Monday or Tuesday and let you know how it turns out!

clockstoper said:
Install rom first then make a backup of only boot install kernel after that , there is a another version of evolution kernel with overclock enabled if you feel that evolution is slow try evolutionX ,it's bit of a battery hog but runs like butter.
Switching kernels gives you access to better features in you kernel like updated tweaks, governors overclock ,undervolt ,sound gain boost etc which the stock kernel doesn't provide in most cases .....only few kernels are as up-to-date with extra features as evolution imo so try it if you don't like how it performs you can tweak it more with kernel aduitor ,for faster feeling phone I normally disable all animations under devoloper options .you can also flash evolutionx to see if it suits you or not just restore the boot backup you made and flash it then test ......
Get the kernel for Oreo as Aex 5.8 is Oreo
Before flashing plz make sure twrp is updated
Always backup important data into your mircosd card or PC
I recommend a full wipe ( system ,data, internal storage,caches) with twrp and then install the new ROM
Do let me know how it goes ....
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Hey, so I had a busy week and I'm just now getting to this. Do I still need to flash a superuser image in order to get superuser working on this (like for fx explorer root or those sort of things)? I have this superuser package I used last time I installed the ViperOS (that's super slow that I'm replacing now): SR1-SuperSU-v2.82-SR1-20170608224931.zip Do I still need that? I can't seem to find an updated one on here or maybe it's buried because it's too old. Maybe people don't use SuperSU anymore? Just wondering. Thanks for any help! And I'll let you know how the new image goes later today.

Use magisk it's way better
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Hey, so I had a busy week and I'm just now getting to this. Do I still need to flash a superuser image in order to get superuser working on this (like for fx explorer root or those sort of things)? I have this superuser package I used last time I installed the ViperOS (that's super slow that I'm replacing now): SR1-SuperSU-v2.82-SR1-20170608224931.zip Do I still need that? I can't seem to find an updated one on here or maybe it's buried because it's too old. Maybe people don't use SuperSU anymore? Just wondering. Thanks for any help! And I'll let you know how the new image goes later today.
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Plus it has all the modules ....very useful ....
Link magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445

clockstoper said:
Plus it has all the modules ....very useful ....
Link magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
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Thanks again! So, I did try SuperSU since it looked like it'd be easy (just install that app) and the Magisk thing said better to go back to stock rom in order to make it work. But SuperSU then was a big headache, after a lot of work I got rid of it, and installed Magisk (without going back to stock rom) and everything was good. Any particular modules you'd suggest using with Magisk?
But overall: I followed your advice and everything seems good. This is my first time to use Oreo and I do like it so far. I haven't turned of animations yet, but I might soon. It's still running fairly fast like I'd expect. I still have to install a few apps on my account and I'll wait and see if that slows anything down. But my wife's account has all her stuff on it, everything logged in, and it seems like it's still smooth. I'm going to give it a few days to a week and see if anything slows it down before I report back to you.
I did have a few questions though: under the AEX extensions, it says "system app remover" and I tried to remove a couple weird apps I don't need on there (like "retro music player" - I don't have any idea how that even got there). I had to enable root for it, but it still doesn't seem to have disappeared. Any idea how to fully get rid of non-wanted system apps?
In that same area for removing system apps (built into the AEX extensions) it looks like there are quite a few theme "apps" already inside it, including even some dark themes for contacts (which I'd really appreciate). But I can't find in the rom anywhere to enable themes. If I download the substratum app, will it automatically give me access to those built-in themes or want? If you know anything about this let me know.
Also, under the aex extensions is an option for weather on the lock screen, but the weather service doesn't seem to be working at all yet. Any idea on that?
Even if you don't know about those things, that's OK, maybe I'll post and ask those questions in the AEX thread and see if anyone has anything to say there.
Overall, everything has worked great so far though, which is great and I appreciate all the advice you've given me! I'll just give it some time to see if it stays fast with regular use, and of course I need to keep making a few tweaks to it.

Glad it worked out
madagascaradam said:
Thanks again! So, I did try SuperSU since it looked like it'd be easy (just install that app) and the Magisk thing said better to go back to stock rom in order to make it work. But SuperSU then was a big headache, after a lot of work I got rid of it, and installed Magisk (without going back to stock rom) and everything was good. Any particular modules you'd suggest using with Magisk?
But overall: I followed your advice and everything seems good. This is my first time to use Oreo and I do like it so far. I haven't turned of animations yet, but I might soon. It's still running fairly fast like I'd expect. I still have to install a few apps on my account and I'll wait and see if that slows anything down. But my wife's account has all her stuff on it, everything logged in, and it seems like it's still smooth. I'm going to give it a few days to a week and see if anything slows it down before I report back to you.
I did have a few questions though: under the AEX extensions, it says "system app remover" and I tried to remove a couple weird apps I don't need on there (like "retro music player" - I don't have any idea how that even got there). I had to enable root for it, but it still doesn't seem to have disappeared. Any idea how to fully get rid of non-wanted system apps?
In that same area for removing system apps (built into the AEX extensions) it looks like there are quite a few theme "apps" already inside it, including even some dark themes for contacts (which I'd really appreciate). But I can't find in the rom anywhere to enable themes. If I download the substratum app, will it automatically give me access to those built-in themes or want? If you know anything about this let me know.
Also, under the aex extensions is an option for weather on the lock screen, but the weather service doesn't seem to be working at all yet. Any idea on that?
Even if you don't know about those things, that's OK, maybe I'll post and ask those questions in the AEX thread and see if anyone has anything to say there.
Overall, everything has worked great so far though, which is great and I appreciate all the advice you've given me! I'll just give it some time to see if it stays fast with regular use, and of course I need to keep making a few tweaks to it.
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The ROM still has some unimplemented stuff system app remover in extensions
As for modules is use viper4android to tweak sound and
Terminal debloater to remove unwanted system apps via terminal
You need to enable it via developer options ...
And about the theme apps you found in system apps remover ,those are simply the colour overlays the system uses for automatically setting system theme based on wallpaper colour, to manually set theme you can try going into system>display >ui theme and try changing stuff there it has the pre-installed colour schemes .......
You will find the option to change the system fonts there too.....
For weather you need to enable the service by going into weather>service ......
Also to keep things smooth use greenify and greenify all the apps that don't need to run in the background .....enable agressive doze there .....
Also go into settings>extensions>system>app ops side scroll to boot up and take away boot permission from any and every app that you don't use immediately after powering your phone .....it helps speed up the phone a lot .
Go to extentions and general tweaks and turn on disable FC notifications too...
Get sd maid free and do cleanup of system cleaner and corpse finder every month end .....
Go to dialer>three dots >settings then enable proximity speakerphone it very good feature ......
Happy it all worked out for yaa ...
I have a question though ,did you do a full format in twrp ?
I mean the format data option where you need to type yes to proceed . That speed up lag on my phone after I moved from stock so next time you might wanna try that before installing a new ROM....

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madagascaradam said:
Thanks again! So, I did try SuperSU since it looked like it'd be easy (just install that app) and the Magisk thing said better to go back to stock rom in order to make it work. But SuperSU then was a big headache, after a lot of work I got rid of it, and installed Magisk (without going back to stock rom) and everything was good. Any particular modules you'd suggest using with Magisk?
But overall: I followed your advice and everything seems good. This is my first time to use Oreo and I do like it so far. I haven't turned of animations yet, but I might soon. It's still running fairly fast like I'd expect. I still have to install a few apps on my account and I'll wait and see if that slows anything down. But my wife's account has all her stuff on it, everything logged in, and it seems like it's still smooth. I'm going to give it a few days to a week and see if anything slows it down before I report back to you.
I did have a few questions though: under the AEX extensions, it says "system app remover" and I tried to remove a couple weird apps I don't need on there (like "retro music player" - I don't have any idea how that even got there). I had to enable root for it, but it still doesn't seem to have disappeared. Any idea how to fully get rid of non-wanted system apps?
In that same area for removing system apps (built into the AEX extensions) it looks like there are quite a few theme "apps" already inside it, including even some dark themes for contacts (which I'd really appreciate). But I can't find in the rom anywhere to enable themes. If I download the substratum app, will it automatically give me access to those built-in themes or want? If you know anything about this let me know.
Also, under the aex extensions is an option for weather on the lock screen, but the weather service doesn't seem to be working at all yet. Any idea on that?
Even if you don't know about those things, that's OK, maybe I'll post and ask those questions in the AEX thread and see if anyone has anything to say there.
Overall, everything has worked great so far though, which is great and I appreciate all the advice you've given me! I'll just give it some time to see if it stays fast with regular use, and of course I need to keep making a few tweaks to it.
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how it ended?

clockstoper said:
The ROM still has some unimplemented stuff system app remover in extensions
As for modules is use viper4android to tweak sound and
Terminal debloater to remove unwanted system apps via terminal
You need to enable it via developer options ...
And about the theme apps you found in system apps remover ,those are simply the colour overlays the system uses for automatically setting system theme based on wallpaper colour, to manually set theme you can try going into system>display >ui theme and try changing stuff there it has the pre-installed colour schemes .......
You will find the option to change the system fonts there too.....
For weather you need to enable the service by going into weather>service ......
Also to keep things smooth use greenify and greenify all the apps that don't need to run in the background .....enable agressive doze there .....
Also go into settings>extensions>system>app ops side scroll to boot up and take away boot permission from any and every app that you don't use immediately after powering your phone .....it helps speed up the phone a lot .
Go to extentions and general tweaks and turn on disable FC notifications too...
Get sd maid free and do cleanup of system cleaner and corpse finder every month end .....
Go to dialer>three dots >settings then enable proximity speakerphone it very good feature ......
Happy it all worked out for yaa ...
I have a question though ,did you do a full format in twrp ?
I mean the format data option where you need to type yes to proceed . That speed up lag on my phone after I moved from stock so next time you might wanna try that before installing a new ROM....
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Thanks for all the extra advice! A lot of that certainly helped. It was actually slowing down again a bit within a few days, but greenify made an immediately noticeable difference, as well as a few of those other things you mentioned.
The weather thing still isn't working even though I have it enabled. Maybe because I'm in Madagascar and most services don't cover weather here?
I couldn't find the dialer either, so I couldn't get to its settings. I'm interested in what the proximity speakerphone does though.
I didn't do any format where I needed to type "yes" to proceed, but when I did wipe I chose every aspect of the storage and wiped all of it (even the memory card). So maybe that was just a simple delete rather than an actual format. I'll keep this in mind though next time I flash a system from start. Though I had the memory card formatted as mixed storage (gave 10 GB of it to the system ["expanded"] and the rest for normal portable use) and the expanded portion reads funny now in the storage settings - as if it had 128 GB and 118 GB were already used. That's strange, but it doesn't seem to affect anything so I'm not worrying about it.

Dialer is the phone app ..
madagascaradam said:
Thanks for all the extra advice! A lot of that certainly helped. It was actually slowing down again a bit within a few days, but greenify made an immediately noticeable difference, as well as a few of those other things you mentioned.
The weather thing still isn't working even though I have it enabled. Maybe because I'm in Madagascar and most services don't cover weather here?
I couldn't find the dialer either, so I couldn't get to its settings. I'm interested in what the proximity speakerphone does though.
I didn't do any format where I needed to type "yes" to proceed, but when I did wipe I chose every aspect of the storage and wiped all of it (even the memory card). So maybe that was just a simple delete rather than an actual format. I'll keep this in mind though next time I flash a system from start. Though I had the memory card formatted as mixed storage (gave 10 GB of it to the system ["expanded"] and the rest for normal portable use) and the expanded portion reads funny now in the storage settings - as if it had 128 GB and 118 GB were already used. That's strange, but it doesn't seem to affect anything so I'm not worrying about it.
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The dialer app is what you use to call a number typing it ,it is the phone app with the telephone icon ,tap the three dots on the top right side there you will find settings ....
About the weather try changing the weather provider to Yahoo ....might work.. .
Also try getting the universal GMS doze module in magisk it stops Google services from slowing the phone ...
I personally don't use gapps at all, I have yalpstore for my app needs. if Google is not that important for you then maybe in the future you might try ROM without it .....
Hope it helps.....