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Anyone having an issue where the Cc is not turning on your TV when you cast content?
I set mine up the recommended way with the power adapter powering it instead of one of the USB ports on the TV. I have a year and a half of Panasonic plasma TV that supports HDMI 1.3a.
I was trying to show my wife how it worked in the demo but I instead got laughed at. Is there some other standard I should check to see if it's the TV or the Cc or a setting/config I missed?
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mikejr83 said:
Anyone having an issue where the Cc is not turning on your TV when you cast content?
I set mine up the recommended way with the power adapter powering it instead of one of the USB ports on the TV. I have a year and a half of Panasonic plasma TV that supports HDMI 1.3a.
I was trying to show my wife how it worked in the demo but I instead got laughed at. Is there some other standard I should check to see if it's the TV or the Cc or a setting/config I missed?
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The ability to change the input is found on HDMI 1.4 and higher I believe
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Well that sucks if that's the case. I reread the instructions and it seems that I was wrong. The recommended method is to use the USB on the TV and not the charger. I'll give that a whirl and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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The CEC function is not HDMI version specific (it was defined in 1.0, though there have been revisions since).
Do you have the CEC feature enabled on your television set? The name varies by manufacturer (list lifted from Wikipedia HDMI article, CEC section): Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), E-link (AOC), Kuro Link (Pioneer), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo), RuncoLink (Runco International), SimpLink (LG), T-Link (ITT), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
Also, I'd guess you should power it using an external adapter unless the television provides power to ChromeCast even when on standby.
mikejr83, I have a brand new LG 47LA6200 and I have the same problem. Chromecast does not turn on the TV when I try to cast a moving or video. Simplink is on.on the LG TV and I have tested it that it works with my LG Blu-ray player.
My Chromecast does turn on the tv when I push content to it. Does it turn off when idle though? i haven't left it on and not-casting for long but if it doesn't turn off then that would really suck. At the very least it needs to kill the hdmi signal so my tv will auto-turn off. I'm testing this on the Sony Playstation TV. I will then test it on my sharp aquos in my living room to see if it works there.
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
CEC, or Consumer Electronics Control, allows for HDMI devices to be controlled with one remote control. If your television has CEC support, you may be able to turn on and change the input on your TV using your phone, tablet or computer while using Chromecast. Please note that in order for CEC to work (if CEC is supported by your TV), your Chromecast must be powered by a power outlet.
Manufacturers often call CEC by different names, including Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), SimpLink (LG), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
larryvand said:
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
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It worked after I turned on Anynet+ on my Samsung TV (from 2009). I also had to move from the TV USB to an external USB Power (actually it's my Google TV that provides power) because when the TV is off, it does not power the USB port.
This is a brand new 2013 LG smart TV. I have turned on the SIMPLINK and the auto power on, and the chromecast is using its own powersupply. I also have a SIMPLINK blu-ray player and that works perfectly. When I use the blu-ray player remote it will turn on the TV and switch to the right channel. Same with the LG TV remote control it can turn off and on the blu-ray player. So the HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) is not the issue. It is Chromecast as far as I can tell. With the TV off, if I try to cast a youtube video, chromecast does not turn on the TV for some reason. If the TV is already on but in a different input, it does switch to the right input so part of the Chromecast HDMI-CEC is working. I'm at a loss here.
What version of firmware your chromecast uses?
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
Mine is working as advertised. Powered by AC.
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Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
Also no power without the USB.
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Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
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I have a Monoprice 4 port HDMI switcher and the Chromecast is plugged into it. It keeps turning on the other TV. My wife thought we had a ghost.
My 5 yo Samsung 46in LCD detects it as an AnyNet device and switches inputs but won't power on. My 2 yo Insignia 24in powers on.
I think it all rests on age
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Mine works and turns the TV on and even switches to the Chromecast input if I start a cast.
I have a 3 year old Sony 46EX710 with the Chromecast plugged into power using the USB port on the TV. It seems my TV powers the USB ports at all time, even if the TV is off.
It doesn't switch back to the last input or turn the TV off if I stop the cast though (I'm sure that has more to do with the TV than the Chromecast).
My Sony 40EX400 turns on when I have it plugged into the wall, but not when plugged into the USB port. (indicating the usb port does not provide power when the tv is turned off)
I dont believe usb ports receive power from tvs when the tv is off thus the reasoning that you need the wall outlet. I have setup 3 chromecasts and all require wall outlet power to turn on tvs, 2 samsung and 1 sony tv.
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
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That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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Finally someone with an LG. I have a brand new LG 2013 47LA6200 smart TV and I still can not turn the TV ON (switches inputs just fine). I have both settings to ON for the SIMPLINK and AUTO POWER.
My Chromecast Firmware version is 12072 (you can see that on the Chromecast app). What is yours?
Mine has the same build number. My TV is the 47LW5600. Mine just worked without messing with any settings. Although, I've looked, and I can't seem to fine my simplink settings in the menus.
EDIT: Just realized that there's a simplink button on the stock remote that opens up the simplink menu. Only has options to turn off and on.
larryvand said:
That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
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Here is the TV I have:
http://store.vizio.com/e322ar.html
However, after the TV has been off for a long while, the Chromecast seems to shut off at some point, not sure at what point though. Oh well, I can live with that. My TV is usually on, even when I'm not watching it, for some kind of background noise, haha
timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
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I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
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I have turned CEC on in the settings. There's only an on/off option, and detect devices, which it does detect the chromecast. It switches inputs just fine, but won't turn on the TV. I've also tested my HDMI receiver, and it doesn't turn that on either. However, I know the receiver can be turned on via CEC because my TV is capable of turning the receiver on. Maybe an update will offer better CEC compatibility.
EDIT: My raspberry pi turns on my vizio TV when you power it on, so the TV is definitely capable of being turned on via CEC.
After I stream something to Chromecast on my old 2007 LG HDTV all the physical TV controls on the TV and the remote don't do anything, and I have to unplug the power to my TV to regain control over my TV.
Is this a common issue?
I don't have that problem on two Samsungs.
Are you powering from the TV or the charger?
Do you have CEC enabled? Yes or no, have you toggled that in your tv settings?
Precog29 said:
After I stream something to Chromecast on my old 2007 LG HDTV all the physical TV controls on the TV and the remote don't do anything, and I have to unplug the power to my TV to regain control over my TV.
Is this a common issue?
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Similar thing happened on my Seiki TV but only caused the favorite list freezing and caused several channels disappearing so that I had to rescan to get the channel list back.
My TV is still operational but it's quite annoying to rescan the channels.
BTW: I am using the USB port on the TV.
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Try your charger instead - just an idea for troubleshooting, you never know.
My Chromecast is plugged into an HDMI input on my home theater receiver (Yamaha RX-V673) and powered externally from the wall. The HDMI output goes to my TV (6-yr old Samsung LNT4042H). I am streaming a browser tab (playing Grooveshark audio) to my home theater. Everything works fine, but I don't want to leave my TV on since I'm only listening to music. But when I turn the TV off, the audio stops too. Very perplexing, I'm not even sure whether or not to blame the Chromecast or the receiver, but I'm leaning toward the former (still no clue how to fix it though).
Any ideas? Thanks!
Weird. Dotés the TV INPUT to the hometheater ?
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Weird. Dotés the TV INPUT to the hometheater ?
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No. Weirder still, if the TV is already off when I start casting, it will cast successfully for a little while, but eventually the audio will cut out. If I then turn TV on, audio will come back.
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My Chromecast is plugged into an HDMI input on my home theater receiver (Yamaha RX-V673) and powered externally from the wall. The HDMI output goes to my TV (6-yr old Samsung LNT4042H). I am streaming a browser tab (playing Grooveshark audio) to my home theater. Everything works fine, but I don't want to leave my TV on since I'm only listening to music. But when I turn the TV off, the audio stops too. Very perplexing, I'm not even sure whether or not to blame the Chromecast or the receiver, but I'm leaning toward the former (still no clue how to fix it though).
Any ideas? Thanks!
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Do you have the USB plugged into the TV??
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Do you have the USB plugged into the TV??
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Nope, powered externally from wall as mentioned in OP. Although admittedly I did add that in an edit so even though you quoted it, perhaps you read before I added it. :angel:
Another weird observation... if I put my TV to another input, it works fine. This is almost a perfect workaround since if I put TV to a dead input, it is almost as good as being powered off. Not quite though.
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Nope, powered externally from wall as mentioned in OP. Although admittedly I did add that in an edit so even though you quoted it, perhaps you read before I added it. :angel:
Another weird observation... if I put my TV to another input, it works fine. This is almost a perfect workaround since if I put TV to a dead input, it is almost as good as being powered off. Not quite though.
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Sounds like either your receiver is "noticing" that the TV is off and going into some power save or something (check for input detection or options on a particular input), or your TV is doing the audio decode and feeding it back to your receiver via Audio Return Channel (ARC).
The latter is less likely simply because you get some audio at the start when the TV is off.
I tried looking in your receiver's manual, but it seems pretty complex (and powerful).
This page will let you download the manual without registering for a Yamaha account:
http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?category_id1=16445&product_id=1645661
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Do you have the USB plugged into the TV??
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bhiga said:
Sounds like either your receiver is "noticing" that the TV is off and going into some power save or something (check for input detection or options on a particular input), or your TV is doing the audio decode and feeding it back to your receiver via Audio Return Channel (ARC).
The latter is less likely simply because you get some audio at the start when the TV is off.
I tried looking in your receiver's manual, but it seems pretty complex (and powerful).
This page will let you download the manual without registering for a Yamaha account:
http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?category_id1=16445&product_id=1645661
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It does seem to be the receiver at fault, since I've tested and it happens with other HDMI sources. Went through the entire manual and tried changing every option that seemed like it might be related... no luck. Will continue my search elsewhere since this does not seem to be Chromecast related. Thanks anyway. :good:
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It does seem to be the receiver at fault, since I've tested and it happens with other HDMI sources. Went through the entire manual and tried changing every option that seemed like it might be related... no luck. Will continue my search elsewhere since this does not seem to be Chromecast related. Thanks anyway. :good:
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Probably something that can keep the HDMI connection alive, like Dr. HDMI or HDMI Detective might work, though I'd see about borrowing or trying one before spending money on it if possible.
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bhiga said:
Probably something that can keep the HDMI connection alive, like Dr. HDMI or HDMI Detective might work, though I'd see about borrowing or trying one before spending money on it if possible.
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Maybe that would work, but so does the complete opposite (killing the connection 100%). I've found that if I totally unplug my TV, then it works fine. The problem is that when the TV is "off" it is actually in standby mode which must still draw some power, and the receiver is aware of this via the HDMI connection, and for some dumb reason chooses to stop the audio stream because of it. If I unplug the TV, then the receiver loses awareness of it entirely and decides to play the audio again. Very stupid, but solvable for $10:
www.amazon.com/Woods-Extension-Switch-Remote-15-Feet/dp/B000KKND86/
I currently manually push the TV power button to turn it off... now I just have to use that button instead to totally cut it off from power.
I believe the receiver is to blame... but easier to spend $10 than try to make Yamaha fix a problem.
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If I unplug the TV, then the receiver loses awareness of it entirely and decides to play the audio again. Very stupid, but solvable for $10:
www.amazon.com/Woods-Extension-Switch-Remote-15-Feet/dp/B000KKND86/
I currently manually push the TV power button to turn it off... now I just have to use that button instead to totally cut it off from power.
I believe the receiver is to blame... but easier to spend $10 than try to make Yamaha fix a problem.
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If you can find an IR-triggered power cut off and you have a learning remote, you may be able to teach one of your remote buttons the signal and avoid getting up (yeah, I'm lazy).
Reminds me of the joke "if you lend someone $20 and never see them again, it might be $20 well spent."
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This is a very LONG SHOT and most likely NOT the problem...
But with most Amp to TV setups the Amp requires the TV to be on to get it's HDCP validation as the amp merely acts as a passthrough device.
Like I said it is a longshot but it is possible that some services may require HDCP to operate....
More likely though it is CEC sending a shutdown signal to the amp.
Or the Amp is timing out because it believes the Chromecast is a Video device and requires a monitor regardless of the fact that the Chromecast can do Audio Only as well.
The Amp itself really has no clue what is plugged into it...All it knows is HDMI gets sent to a Monitor and in your case it doesn't have a destination so shuts itself off.
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The Amp itself really has no clue what is plugged into it...All it knows is HDMI gets sent to a Monitor and in your case it doesn't have a destination so shuts itself off.
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The fact that totally cutting the power to the TV (at the wall) fixes everything would seem to disprove that statement (and the earlier one that HDCP from the TV might be required for it to work). But I really don't know for sure.
It could *possibly* be HDMI CEC messing with it.
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It could *possibly* be HDMI CEC messing with it.
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Yep!
Because Pulling the plug means no CEC command gets sent!
Thats what it is!
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It could *possibly* be HDMI CEC messing with it.
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Yep!
Because Pulling the plug means no CEC command gets sent!
Thats what it is!
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Interesting. This CEC is new to me. I wonder how long it's been around... my TV (and the connecting cable) is from 2007.
No options in TV or Receiver anywhere to disable it, although the receiver specs do say that it has CEC. If it is CEC causing my issue, I wonder if something like this might help?
http://www.pulse-eight.com/store/products/110-cec-less-hdmi-cable.aspx
Of course it's only a foot long so I'd need a F-F connector to tack it onto the end of my existing cable.
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Interesting. This CEC is new to me. I wonder how long it's been around... my TV (and the connecting cable) is from 2007.
No options in TV or Receiver anywhere to disable it, although the receiver specs do say that it has CEC. If it is CEC causing my issue, I wonder if something like this might help?
http://www.pulse-eight.com/store/products/110-cec-less-hdmi-cable.aspx
Of course it's only a foot long so I'd need a F-F connector to tack it onto the end of my existing cable.
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CEC = Consumer Electronic Control
It's meant to help with the IR control and switching of inputs on Consumer devices
It was Introduced with the HDMI 1.2a Spec and expanded when HDMI 1.3 came out.
It's basically a control network for all the devices in a Home Entertainment system. Your supposed to be able to use one Remote to control everything....Works in Theory but most people have no clue how to get it to work! LOL
If you set your TV to your TUNER it should tell the Amp to switch to the Optical TV input automatically. And when you select BlueRay that goes through the amp the Amp should switch to that input and automatically change the input on the TV to see the Amp.
That Cable probably lifts pin 13 from connecting (isn't wired) which would take a particular device off the CEC Network.
But I would check both the Amp and TV settings first because by adding that cable you will have to switch inputs if you use the tuner on the TV and not just a set top box.If everything you own and watch goes through the amp the cable won't cost you any functionality other than TV remote working to change volume on the amp.
EDIT I don't suggest getting a Female to Female connector to barrel two cables together...
Better to get an extension HDMI cable that has a Female to Male cause every connector and connection can add noise and kill signal quality.
I have a opposite problem, chromecast keeps turning my TV on My Chromecast is connected to my Yamaha RX-A830 and I have a Samsung E8000 with 2013 Evolution kit. Every time I start playback on Chromecast, the TV is turned on. If I turn the TV off, the playback continues, but after some time (seems random to me) it turns the TV on again. Maybe that's when the playback stops for you? Because your TV does not support CEC and Chromecast thinks that there is no need to play anymore?
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I have a opposite problem, chromecast keeps turning my TV on My Chromecast is connected to my Yamaha RX-A830 and I have a Samsung E8000 with 2013 Evolution kit. Every time I start playback on Chromecast, the TV is turned on. If I turn the TV off, the playback continues, but after some time (seems random to me) it turns the TV on again. Maybe that's when the playback stops for you? Because your TV does not support CEC and Chromecast thinks that there is no need to play anymore?
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Hmm, I'm pretty sure I've ruled out the Chromecast, since it happens with Wii U in the same way. But it is still possible it could be as you describe, and the exact same thing is happening with the Wii U too.
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I have a opposite problem, chromecast keeps turning my TV on My Chromecast is connected to my Yamaha RX-A830 and I have a Samsung E8000 with 2013 Evolution kit. Every time I start playback on Chromecast, the TV is turned on.
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That's how it's supposed to work.
If you don't want the TV turning on, you'll need to disable CEC on your TV, or if it has an option, disallow CEC power on.
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Because your TV does not support CEC and Chromecast thinks that there is no need to play anymore?
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Chromecast doesn't care. It's still playing as turning the TV back on results in audio.
Really sounds like Yamaha thought it would be smart for the receiver to automatically switch off if the attached display is turned off.
My Sony sound bar has an auto-off feature too that has the annoying feature of turning off if I have my TiVo paused too long, so I turned off the sound bar's auto off and turned on my TV's option to turn off attached devices when powering off.
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Wii U does not support CEC.
My TV CEC is on and Power sync is disabled. Yet still Chromecast turns it on...
Yamaha receivers turn off when they get CEC command to do so. My Chromecast has never turned my Yamaha receiver off. I have Yamaha set to HDMI control "On" and Standby sync "Auto" which should accept CEC power down command only when the current source sends it.
I really like how the Chromecast can turn my TV to the correct source and turn it on when I start casting. But is there a way to tell it to turn the TV off when I'm done with it. For example I'm using my ipad to start a movie on Netflix and cast it to the Chromecast. Everything works good. But I left the TV remote next to the TV. Is there a way to turn the TV off from the ipad or a computer with the Chromecast that way I can literally leave my TV remote in a drawer and never have to tough it?
I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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If you have Verizon fios they have an app that goes through your router that you can change tv don't need IR, since it uses wifi.
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The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
Pull the plug on the TV and it will not send a power down command to other devices on the CEC Network but hit the power Button and it will.
Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
Better would be if the CCast would send a Change Input command to go back to the last input before it took over (No command for that in CEC that I know of) so that if you streamed something when the TV was seeing the Cablebox, It would switch to CCast Input when it had a stream and then would switch back to whatever input it was on before CCast took over the screen.
That would be much more useful than a power off command which is great only when you want to watch one stream and then nothing else.
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I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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Huh? The Chromecast can already turn on and change inputs on some tvs using HDMI CEC. It is most likely a design decision not to turn the tv off when it disconnects.
My TV has an option in the menu to auto switch inputs when it detects activity on one of them through HDMI. So when I turn my bluray on the TV will detect that and switch to INPUT 3 and preempt my satellite input. It's kind of a pain that when I insert a bluray into the player it auto switches even if I'm not ready.
-- EDIT: nevermind, that was an older TV. New one doesn't, so it's HDMI CEC (VieraLink for mine) as bozzykid said.
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The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
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Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
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It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
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It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
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I would rather they just made a TV Remote app for CCast to control the whole damn thing! LOL
I pull the USB plug (which supplies power) when I'm done watching.
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While I watching a stream on Chromecast, Google Android smartwatch with Chromecast control popped into my head as I picked up the smartphone to pause Netflix for a snack break.