This phone is not truly waterproof/resistant!!!!!
First off I want to start this off buy saying a few things. I work for AT&T so before anyone says its from improper usage remember I had to watch training videos on how to properly use it. Also, before anyone says well, you aren't really supposed to be using it in the water, you are wrong. The first thing we are trained on is how to properly close the back cover and how to show the customers Aqua mode to take pictures underwater. We actively use this as a main selling point, this is per Samsung.
Here is my story. I bought the Active on Thursday. The first thing I did with it was ensure the back was closed and made a video in my fish tank so I could show customers how it works underwater, and how good aqua mode is. That worked out perfectly except the video was a little dark, so I figured I would retake it.
In this time I had a customer swap out the phone they bought because it were defective, the bottom buttons stopped working on it. She was very vague when the water question came up but I thought nothing of it.
Now cue today. It was sunny outside so I thought it was the perfect time to reshoot the fish tank video. I ensured the back was secure, yes, including pressing down on the back where the AT&T logo is. I then submerged the phone in the tank while taking the video. Almost instantly the phone screen went black and said dock mode was enabled so I took the phone out of the water and everything went back to normal. I double checked the USB rubber to be sure. I just chalked it up to the phone doing crazy things in the water. I have read almost everywhere that the phone will say headphones are plugged in, etc. So I thought this was normal. I then put it back in and took a minute long video. Everything was fine. I even played back the video and it was fully working.
This is where everything went wrong. About 2 minutes later the phone started tweaking out, Google now opened on its own and the buttons were really sensitive. Then the buttons completely stopped working other than the power button and that's when I freaked out. I opened the battery cover and there it was, everything was soaked. but luckily none of the water damage indicators were colored. I then opened the USB door and it was like a fountain, so that's where the breach happened. The flimsy, rubber USB door. I did not tell a soul what happened and went back to work and swapped it for a regular Galaxy S4.
So please listen to my warning. There are way too many people getting this phone damaged, including me, a fully trained AT&T employee who took the proper precautions before doing anything.
Samsung should not be able to get away with calling this phone water resistant or water proof, and they should especially not include an Aqua Camera mode.
Also the warranty DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT COVER WATER!!!!
I think it depends really, i understand where you are coming from, and you shouldnt trust it, but my friend was pushed in the pool with his and it survived without a issue
I've kept mine in my pocket and went for a swim in the pool. Worked fine after wiping it with a towel. You might have had a defective unit...
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As an AT&T employee maybe you'll know the procedure for this..
I've read all the horror stories relating to the S4A, and there's been a few of them.. Is the fact that the device seems to fail often enough of a reason to exchange for a regular S4? I'm not within my 14 days anymore :/.I opted for this over S4 just because of the water resistance.
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I think it depends really, i understand where you are coming from, and you shouldnt trust it, but my friend was pushed in the pool with his and it survived without a issue
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And I understand that I may have a defective unit, but I have read 3 separate reviews where the reviewer damaged their first phone. There is also a thread on XDA where a bunch of people state that they damaged their phone. This in itself either says that the phone doesn't work as advertised or there are way too many defective units out there for anyone to be safe to try the water and Samsung needs to know this.
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And I understand that I may have a defective unit, but I have read 3 separate reviews where the reviewer damaged their first phone. There is also a thread on XDA where a bunch of people state that they damaged their phone. This in itself either says that the phone doesn't work as advertised or there are way too many defective units out there for anyone to be safe to try the water and Samsung needs to know this.
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Maybe its the other way around and my friend got a defective one thats actually waterproof
now i fell terribly sorry for who went with those ugly buttons instead of S4
Blackwolf10 said:
now i fell terribly sorry for who went with those ugly buttons instead of S4
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Eh... I like the buttons...
The bottom line is that Samsung doesn't warranty the phone against water damage and therefor should Never sell it as such. If they can not stand behind an advertised function of their own product, they should not sell it. It doesn't matter if people abuse the phone in water or exceed the recommended specs (depth and length of time in water) because there is no way they can differentiate between people that stay within the specs and those that don't.
All I gotta say is the best way to get away with saying it is water resistance/proof would be making it like the Nexus 4 and no removable back. Make it wireless charging. Come with a wireless charger. Sd card slot and sim slot on the top or sides. Make it completely blocked off with no ports but a headphone hack the way they did making it water proof. That's the only way they can be certain its water resistant. Otherwise you have these issues.
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Yeah, I have a feeling all of these water-related failures are going to kill the S4A early. Eventually, the threat of a class action lawsuit will cause them to trigger an EOL.
I suspect this will happen sooner rather than later, since showing it dunked in water in all the commercials, but not covering water damage is just screaming "class action."
My crystal ball says that within a year, you'll see AT&T (at least) offering to waive ETF for owners of S4A units damaged by water. This may be under the terms of a Class Action, or to avoid one... but in the end, that will probably be the end of the S4A story.
daledenton said:
This phone is not truly waterproof/resistant!!!!!
First off I want to start this off buy saying a few things. I work for AT&T so before anyone says its from improper usage remember I had to watch training videos on how to properly use it. Also, before anyone says well, you aren't really supposed to be using it in the water, you are wrong. The first thing we are trained on is how to properly close the back cover and how to show the customers Aqua mode to take pictures underwater. We actively use this as a main selling point, this is per Samsung.
Here is my story. I bought the Active on Thursday. The first thing I did with it was ensure the back was closed and made a video in my fish tank so I could show customers how it works underwater, and how good aqua mode is. That worked out perfectly except the video was a little dark, so I figured I would retake it.
In this time I had a customer swap out the phone they bought because it were defective, the bottom buttons stopped working on it. She was very vague when the water question came up but I thought nothing of it.
Now cue today. It was sunny outside so I thought it was the perfect time to reshoot the fish tank video. I ensured the back was secure, yes, including pressing down on the back where the AT&T logo is. I then submerged the phone in the tank while taking the video. Almost instantly the phone screen went black and said dock mode was enabled so I took the phone out of the water and everything went back to normal. I double checked the USB rubber to be sure. I just chalked it up to the phone doing crazy things in the water. I have read almost everywhere that the phone will say headphones are plugged in, etc. So I thought this was normal. I then put it back in and took a minute long video. Everything was fine. I even played back the video and it was fully working.
This is where everything went wrong. About 2 minutes later the phone started tweaking out, Google now opened on its own and the buttons were really sensitive. Then the buttons completely stopped working other than the power button and that's when I freaked out. I opened the battery cover and there it was, everything was soaked. but luckily none of the water damage indicators were colored. I then opened the USB door and it was like a fountain, so that's where the breach happened. The flimsy, rubber USB door. I did not tell a soul what happened and went back to work and swapped it for a regular Galaxy S4.
So please listen to my warning. There are way too many people getting this phone damaged, including me, a fully trained AT&T employee who took the proper precautions before doing anything.
Samsung should not be able to get away with calling this phone water resistant or water proof, and they should especially not include an Aqua Camera mode.
Also the warranty DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT COVER WATER!!!!
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A simple solution to find out if your phone is waterproof... Turn the phone off and remove the battery, then close everything and put it in water for a few minutes. Take the phone out of the water and check to see if water got in the charging port and/or past the seal on the back. If it did get water in the device put your phone in rice for a day and return it for a working unit. If you didn't you should be fine.
If no power is going to your device it cannot short circuit. After the water is gone you can turn it on with no issues
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Yeah, I have a feeling all of these water-related failures are going to kill the S4A early. Eventually, the threat of a class action lawsuit will cause them to trigger an EOL.
I suspect this will happen sooner rather than later, since showing it dunked in water in all the commercials, but not covering water damage is just screaming "class action."
My crystal ball says that within a year, you'll see AT&T (at least) offering to waive ETF for owners of S4A units damaged by water. This may be under the terms of a Class Action, or to avoid one... but in the end, that will probably be the end of the S4A story.
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Or maybe a recall?
Blackwolf10 said:
now i fell terribly sorry for who went with those ugly buttons instead of S4
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as an owner of Galaxy S2, S3, Nexus and HTC One i have to say then Samsung products are inferior to any other manufacture,
HTC is NOT as important manufacture as Samsung but their devices are way better that Samsungs
as for water proofing Galaxy S4 Active was a clear copy of Xperia Z, since Samsung could NOT make every GS4 waterproof like SONY they made another phone and judging by experience SONY clearly made the better waterproofing,
i was in the swimming pool that day and there was Xperia Z's on the bottom of the pool (~1 to 2 meters) with NO damage,
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
A simple solution to find out if your phone is waterproof... Turn the phone off and remove the battery, then close everything and put it in water for a few minutes. Take the phone out of the water and check to see if water got in the charging port and/or past the seal on the back. If it did get water in the device put your phone in rice for a day and return it for a working unit. If you didn't you should be fine.
If no power is going to your device it cannot short circuit. After the water is gone you can turn it on with no issues
Or maybe a recall?
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"If no power is going to your device it cannot short circuit"
every phone has a small battery on its PCB to keep time and date if your battery drained or removed.
so a short circuit is a possibility.
Muhammad.Muayad said:
as an owner of Galaxy S2, S3, Nexus and HTC One i have to say then Samsung products are inferior to any other manufacture,
HTC is NOT as important manufacture as Samsung but their devices are way better that Samsungs
as for water proofing Galaxy S4 Active was a clear copy of Xperia Z, since Samsung could NOT make every GS4 waterproof like SONY they made another phone and judging by experience SONY clearly made the better waterproofing,
i was in the swimming pool that day and there was Xperia Z's on the bottom of the pool (~1 to 2 meters) with NO damage,
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"If no power is going to your device it cannot short circuit"
every phone has a small battery on its PCB to keep time and date if your battery drained or removed.
so a short circuit is a possibility.
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hmmm ok, never heard of that
Either way when I tried the method I posted no water got in. Still don't think I will put it in water while it is turned on
My first shot in water:
lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uF_HK-cQ5z0/Ue6J9C7REAI/AAAAAAAA0qQ/JCQFdoDu13U/s512/20130723_164222.jpg
(from kayak, i did keep phone in hand and lower it about 10cm deep in water)
After that pic, noticed water in display, rear camera, front camera, some buttons did not work, etc etc nice.
Rear cam:
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mrqiqTMzr_g/Ue6gKop2DlI/AAAAAAAA0tE/upYGQ_7dNW0/s512/20130723_182343.jpg
Front cam:
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UxFnzttB8CE/Ue7CqjautfI/AAAAAAAA0vU/cpK5ekAPZGo/s512/20130723_205132.jpg
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hRvVQXcYqG4/Ue7x3qZSg7I/AAAAAAAA0xI/p4LqZri94bs/s512/IMG_20130723_234953.jpg
Display:
lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wBqoctoGIlg/Ue7x1BM3-CI/AAAAAAAA0w8/il7jeX2rodk/s640/IMG_20130723_234922.jpg
And yes, usb cover was sealed and also battery cover.
I went to local service point in last week, today they called to pick my device up:
lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w-LRCCJJHYM/UfZhBjNfcFI/AAAAAAAA1Dk/W70ZmxcePhA/s512/IMG_20130729_153151.jpg
Battery is old, everything else is new.
edit: btw, sorry for links, add h t t p : / /
jesi said:
My first shot in water:
lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uF_HK-cQ5z0/Ue6J9C7REAI/AAAAAAAA0qQ/JCQFdoDu13U/s512/20130723_164222.jpg
(from kayak, i did keep phone in hand and lower it about 10cm deep in water)
After that pic, noticed water in display, rear camera, front camera, some buttons did not work, etc etc nice.
Rear cam:
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mrqiqTMzr_g/Ue6gKop2DlI/AAAAAAAA0tE/upYGQ_7dNW0/s512/20130723_182343.jpg
Front cam:
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UxFnzttB8CE/Ue7CqjautfI/AAAAAAAA0vU/cpK5ekAPZGo/s512/20130723_205132.jpg
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hRvVQXcYqG4/Ue7x3qZSg7I/AAAAAAAA0xI/p4LqZri94bs/s512/IMG_20130723_234953.jpg
Display:
lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wBqoctoGIlg/Ue7x1BM3-CI/AAAAAAAA0w8/il7jeX2rodk/s640/IMG_20130723_234922.jpg
And yes, usb cover was sealed and also battery cover.
I went to local service point in last week, today they called to pick my device up:
lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w-LRCCJJHYM/UfZhBjNfcFI/AAAAAAAA1Dk/W70ZmxcePhA/s512/IMG_20130729_153151.jpg
Battery is old, everything else is new.
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I'm guessing this was not AT&T? The sticker on the screen is different
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm guessing this was not AT&T? The sticker on the screen is different
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Yep, no AT&T.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Or maybe a recall?
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Remember, most people with this phone have entered into a 2-year contract. Simply recalling the phone wouldn't work. They'd either have to replace it with an equivalent model or waive the ETF. The problem with the former is that they've advertised the heck out of its water resistance, selling it as "everything proof." If they were to, say, replace it with a standard S4, the consumer would have a very real argument that it's not an equivalent model, which would be ANOTHER basis for a class action.
Also, remember, recalls are done by a manufacturer. AT&T isn't going to recall a Samsung device. Samsung would have to do that. A recall would only really work if Samsung offered another phone (like an S4), AND made a deal with AT&T, compensating them to waive the ETF if the consumer didn't want that phone. This may happen, but before it does, the remaining stock would be pulled from the shelves, and the phone would be EOL.
Again, I think that marketing this phone as waterproof, but not standing behind that marketing, is eventually going to lead to a class action. A class action, or the threat of one, will result in an early death for this device. I agree with what was said before though... I don't think we'll be seeing many more phones claiming water resistance. Those that do, will be sealed, and certainly won't have removable backs.
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Remember, most people with this phone have entered into a 2-year contract. Simply recalling the phone wouldn't work. They'd either have to replace it with an equivalent model or waive the ETF. The problem with the former is that they've advertised the heck out of its water resistance, selling it as "everything proof." If they were to, say, replace it with a standard S4, the consumer would have a very real argument that it's not an equivalent model, which would be ANOTHER basis for a class action.
Also, remember, recalls are done by a manufacturer. AT&T isn't going to recall a Samsung device. Samsung would have to do that. A recall would only really work if Samsung offered another phone (like an S4), AND made a deal with AT&T, compensating them to waive the ETF if the consumer didn't want that phone. This may happen, but before it does, the remaining stock would be pulled from the shelves, and the phone would be EOL.
Again, I think that marketing this phone as waterproof, but not standing behind that marketing, is eventually going to lead to a class action. A class action, or the threat of one, will result in an early death for this device. I agree with what was said before though... I don't think we'll be seeing many more phones claiming water resistance. Those that do, will be sealed, and certainly won't have removable backs.
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Yeah... saying a phone is "everything proof" and water proof is pretty stupid.. Honestly I think AT&T and Samsung could fix this in my mind just by warranty replacing water damaged S4 Actives. If they replace them in the event of water damage then we all will be happy. It doesn't happen to every unit, most users are fine in the water, but still a high percentage.
I for one love my active and the water proof was just a bonus, but I wouldn't mind them giving me my upgrade back
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Yeah... saying a phone is "everything proof" and water proof is pretty stupid.. Honestly I think AT&T and Samsung could fix this in my mind just by warranty replacing water damaged S4 Actives. If they replace them in the event of water damage then we all will be happy. It doesn't happen to every unit, most users are fine in the water, but still a high percentage.
I for one love my active and the water proof was just a bonus, but I wouldn't mind them giving me my upgrade back
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"water-resistant.” As Samsung points out in the device’s manual, the S4 Active is rated IP67, which means that it’s resistant to water only up to depths of a little over three feet , its not water proof .
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Hey Guys,
Recently some salt water manage to get in my Samsung Galaxy S while i was fishing. Ive open my phone and clean as much corrosion as possible. Now I've notice that somethings are starting to fail on me in the past few hours My accelerometer, Charging port, 3.5mm head jacks, screen is all good and sim card slot. I can call out but cant take calls in. Chances are the corrosion can finish my phone off for good, in a few months time.
I was thinking if i can buy, new replacement parts or even the whole samsung galaxy s board ? and if any please link.
thank you, kindly appreciated
only level 3 services centre can get new boards but then you also need to write an IMEI to it and print out a new IEMI sticker so not something that can be done. buy a broken screen galaxy s from ebay and swap screens.
I'm sorry for your unscheduled swim.
Frankly,salt water damage is about as bad as it gets-anything depending upon capacitance or resistance will ultimately be affected by the salt.
In my opinion the whole phone is either now or soon will become erratic-even if you swap your screen into an ebay broken screen replacement as suggested I feel the screen from your current phone will deteriorate quickly so you may be sending good money after bad.
I think it's bite the bullet time
Best Wishes
Ashley
disappointed .... : \ Is the phone worth selling ? while phone housing is still new around 2 days old. Screen is still working but might die in the future due to corrosion but so far so good screen is fine.
thompson0206 said:
Is the phone worth selling ?
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Not as a whole phone, maybe for parts, but you would have to mention the salt water damage otherwise it would be fraudulent.
Some times things happen that are just plain accidents and most likely, like AshleySear said, it's bite the bullet time time.
Maybe look around eBay for a used phone, or wait for the new Galaxy S 2.
Sorry for your potential loss,
Ian
one word....
warrenty
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one word....
warrenty
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Page 121 of the i9000 user manual.. They have a built-in water sensor, to allow Samsung to identify when moisture has entered the device. If it's similar to the iPod's, it's probably inside the headphone port (so they can see the color change without opening the device).
So don't warranty it..
There is 6 in the galaxy s plus we have microscopes to check the board as well.
Sent from my GTI-9000 Using that XDA app thingy
I hade same problem
I managed to drop my 2 weeks old GalaxySII in water. The left side of the phone was in sea water for maybe 2 seconds.
I dismounted the battery and tried to blow on it.
That war 10 days ago. Now that the warranty is gone and insurance dont cover anything I yesterday decided to disassemble it and try to clean it with filtered water.
Well the salt had dried and started to corrode on the circuits. It did not look promising but i gave it a try anyway. I used Electrical Cleaner and even bathed the circuit board in lukewarm water. The salt would not come off.
I dried then assembled the phone and pressed the power button with a spark of hope... nothing happened
So my conclusion is DO NOT BADE YOUR SMARTPHONE IN SEA WATHER!!
At least if your unlucky and it is to late put it in your pocket and annoy someone to push you into the sea. Then at least the insurance covers it
I guess my next phone will be a Motorola Defy+ or a Samsung Galaxy Xcover since i have a bad habit of breaking my phone.
today morning i droped my sgsl in detergent water .
i will keep it alone for one week
i wanted to know that detergent water damages more than water or salt water or any ways to get my phone alive
I got my phone wet last week not thinking anything of it since the phone is supposed to be waterproof. Next thing I know the screen turned black but everything else worked fine. I inspected the phone to find water got into the camera lens so I let it air dry overnight. The next day It worked so i tried to do a test to see if the phone is waterproof. I got two small pieces of tissue paper and put them under the flaps and place the phone in about 4 inches of water for maybe 30 seconds. I pulled the phone out and dried it off let it sit for a minute then opened the covers to find water got into the phone again. I repeated this test again the next day to make sure it wasn't a fluke and the same thing happened. I then did the same thing without the 2 peices of paper to make sure the paper wasn't keeping the covers open and water got in my phone again and the screen temporarily stopped working again. I chatted with someone online to see if I could send the phone in to get it fixed and they told me it would take 14 business days and I had to call sony to get that set up. So today I just got off the phone with them and they said that they couldn't do anything because "theres nothing wrong with my phone" Even though I explained that it wasn't waterproof and that it was defective. She also said something about not being able to fix it because its not from the U.S but didn't say anything about that after I brought up sending it to a place where they can fix it.
Has anyone gone through this with a different sony phone and can help me to figure out what I need to do to get a replacement or am I screwed?
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I got my phone wet last week not thinking anything of it since the phone is supposed to be waterproof. Next thing I know the screen turned black but everything else worked fine. I inspected the phone to find water got into the camera lens so I let it air dry overnight. The next day It worked so i tried to do a test to see if the phone is waterproof. I got two small pieces of tissue paper and put them under the flaps and place the phone in about 4 inches of water for maybe 30 seconds. I pulled the phone out and dried it off let it sit for a minute then opened the covers to find water got into the phone again. I repeated this test again the next day to make sure it wasn't a fluke and the same thing happened. I then did the same thing without the 2 peices of paper to make sure the paper wasn't keeping the covers open and water got in my phone again and the screen temporarily stopped working again. I chatted with someone online to see if I could send the phone in to get it fixed and they told me it would take 14 business days and I had to call sony to get that set up. So today I just got off the phone with them and they said that they couldn't do anything because "theres nothing wrong with my phone" Even though I explained that it wasn't waterproof and that it was defective. She also said something about not being able to fix it because its not from the U.S but didn't say anything about that after I brought up sending it to a place where they can fix it.
Has anyone gone through this with a different sony phone and can help me to figure out what I need to do to get a replacement or am I screwed?
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It's strange. Send it back where you bought it?
PS: you can test waterproofing WITHOUT water:
1) close the flaps
2) dial *#*#7378423#*#* (7378423 = SERVICE)
3) service tests/pressure sensor
4) press on the screen with your finger, pressure will rise
5) open a flap, press, pressure does not rise
difto said:
It's strange. Send it back where you bought it?
PS: you can test waterproofing WITHOUT water:
1) close the flaps
2) dial *#*#7378423#*#* (7378423 = SERVICE)
3) service tests/pressure sensor
4) press on the screen with your finger, pressure will rise
5) open a flap, press, pressure does not rise
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I wish i knew about this before I tried putting it in water today. Im guessing if the pressure doesnt rise then its not waterproof?
Also i bought it from clove who told me to talk to sony.
mendez815 said:
I wish i knew about this before I tried putting it in water today. Im guessing if the pressure doesnt rise then its not waterproof?
Also i bought it from clove who told me to talk to sony.
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That's the standard procedure, Sony will tell you to send it back to the retailer
mendez815 said:
I wish i knew about this before I tried putting it in water today. Im guessing if the pressure doesnt rise then its not waterproof?
Also i bought it from clove who told me to talk to sony.
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Have you tried contacting Clove again to let them know Sony isn't doing squat for you? They seem to have a good reputation so I'd give them a chance to make this right. A lot of us have bought from Clove (and Handtec) and I know many were worried about what steps to take in case we ever needed support so I think I speak for all of us when I say we'd like to see you get this issue resolved as smoothly and quickly as possible. It would serve as a guideline for those in the future who experience any problems that require service.
Exactly, if pressure does not move then one of the flaps isn't sealed properly.
If it isn't waterproof, that's a warranty issue. But noticing that it isn't waterproof and then exposing it to water multiple times, even for testing, is insane.
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Have you tried contacting Clove again to let them know Sony isn't doing squat for you? They seem to have a good reputation so I'd give them a chance to make this right. A lot of us have bought from Clove (and Handtec) and I know many were worried about what steps to take in case we ever needed support so I think I speak for all of us when I say we'd like to see you get this issue resolved as smoothly and quickly as possible. It would serve as a guideline for those in the future who experience any problems that require service.
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I just tried emailing clove again today so I will find out what they say tomorrow.
Iruwen said:
If it isn't waterproof, that's a warranty issue. But noticing that it isn't waterproof and then exposing it to water multiple times, even for testing, is insane.
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Yeah it does sound dumb, but I only realised its not waterproof after water got in it already. water damage is water damage since the marker turned pink already putting it in water again isn't changing anything. I just wanted proof for my sake that it wasn't waterproof.
My Z3C is actually currently on its way back to SBE Ltd in UK(from WA, USA because USA sony won't touch it, also purchased from Clove) for a similar issue. The flap over my micro-sd card was allowing drops of water into the system(4 inches deep for about 2 minutes) even when closed as securely as possible. Initially the haptic feedback motor started misbehaving(would turn on and stay on, various speeds, even while the phone was off) and then finally the touch screen stopped accepting input.
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My Z3C is actually currently on its way back to SBE Ltd in UK(from WA, USA because USA sony won't touch it, also purchased from Clove) for a similar issue. The flap over my micro-sd card was allowing drops of water into the system(4 inches deep for about 2 minutes) even when closed as securely as possible. Initially the haptic feedback motor started misbehaving(would turn on and stay on, various speeds, even while the phone was off) and then finally the touch screen stopped accepting input.
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Did they make you pay anything for the return? And how much convincing did it take on your end for them to accept the return?
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Did they make you pay anything for the return? And how much convincing did it take on your end for them to accept the return?
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I had to pay shipping to them(~$14 international first class, ups was trying to charge me $107). It took 3 emails(first they didn't really read, just said no b/c I was in the USA. Second, reminding them then the phone is a UK IMEI and the USA sony wouldn't touch it and that I believed the phone was damaged due to manufacturing error, and then 3rd that "yes, I want it repaired regardless")
I'm pretty sure that they are going to tell me I have to pay for the repair. But at this point it's either a $500 paperweight or w/e the repair cost is.
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I had to pay shipping to them(~$14 international first class, ups was trying to charge me $107). It took 3 emails(first they didn't really read, just said no b/c I was in the USA. Second, reminding them then the phone is a UK IMEI and the USA sony wouldn't touch it and that I believed the phone was damaged due to manufacturing error, and then 3rd that "yes, I want it repaired regardless")
I'm pretty sure that they are going to tell me I have to pay for the repair. But at this point it's either a $500 paperweight or w/e the repair cost is.
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That's odd because a guy on this forum reported yesterday that Sony U.S.A. was accepting his UK device for warranty work... I wonder what the actual policy is or if it's luck of the draw...
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difto said:
It's strange. Send it back where you bought it?
PS: you can test waterproofing WITHOUT water:
1) close the flaps
2) dial *#*#7378423#*#* (7378423 = SERVICE)
3) service tests/pressure sensor
4) press on the screen with your finger, pressure will rise
5) open a flap, press, pressure does not rise
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Awesome tip with the pressure test. I just did mine. It seems it's working! Thanks!
The phone is not waterproof it's water resistant. There is a difference between the two.
Could be a faulty device and you should replace it.
TimAhKin said:
The phone is not waterproof it's water resistant. There is a difference between the two.
Could be a faulty device and you should replace it.
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The phone is definitely Waterproof, but to a certain limit. Just like Waterproof watches would say up to 100M for example, this phone is Waterproof up to the specifications of IP68. Water resistance can only withstand from things such as light rain, water splashes but not from submerging it under water.
Even the billboards they boast about the phone being Waterproof.
Waterproof is often used in marketing, the specification talks about resistance and protection iirc - since there's always some point at which the water resistance fails, with the IP code specifying exactly the minimum resistantance, it's never really waterproof. But that's really just nit-picking.
phositadc said:
That's odd because a guy on this forum reported yesterday that Sony U.S.A. was accepting his UK device for warranty work... I wonder what the actual policy is or if it's luck of the draw...
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I'm going with luck of the draw. The first USA sony rep I got said that her system was down and couldn't look up my IMEI, that she would call me back(never did).
Second rep realized she couldn't look up my IMEI because it was a UK IMEI and told me that Sony USA would not accept it and that I needed to contact Sony from the country of origin(UK).
xanthic42 said:
I'm going with luck of the draw. The first USA sony rep I got said that her system was down and couldn't look up my IMEI, that she would call me back(never did).
Second rep realized she couldn't look up my IMEI because it was a UK IMEI and told me that Sony USA would not accept it and that I needed to contact Sony from the country of origin(UK).
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Yeah that's unacceptable. I'd always heard that Sony customer support was really bad.
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difto said:
PS: you can test waterproofing WITHOUT water:
1) close the flaps
2) dial *#*#7378423#*#* (7378423 = SERVICE)
3) service tests/pressure sensor
4) press on the screen with your finger, pressure will rise
5) open a flap, press, pressure does not rise
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Wow that's awesome! Never knew this.
So tried it on mine, and I can safely say the pressure rises. Got the following values:
no touch @ idle: 989 millibar
1 finger regular touch 990 millibar.
4 fingers : 993 millibar (pressed hard enough not to feel flex in the screen)
Is that healthy? What values are you all getting?
So today as I was whatsapping and after sending my messaging I turned the screen off to place my note 4 on the table. As I did so while the phone was still in my hand I noticed a crack/ scratch form itself.
Naturally I took it back to Samsung whom refused to take it back saying it was my fault. In the UK we have a sales of goods act in which the dealer must prove that there is no inherent fault if the product is faulty within 6 months. They just outright refused me.
I will give the head office a call tomorrow and if that gets me nowhere I'll take it to a small claims court.
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So today as I was whatsapping and after sending my messaging I turned the screen off to place my note 4 on the table. As I did so while the phone was still in my hand I noticed a crack/ scratch form itself.
Naturally I took it back to Samsung whom refused to take it back saying it was my fault. In the UK we have a sales of goods act in which the dealer must prove that there is no inherent fault if the product is faulty within 6 months. They just outright refused me.
I will give the head office a call tomorrow and if that gets me nowhere I'll take it to a small claims court.
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Ouch. I am not in the UK but I am interested to see how this all turns out
Thanks, the worst part is that I actually watched as the scratch formed itself and grew bigger.
My hypothesis is that it may have been caused by heating and cooling of the phone.
My Note 4 did get pretty warm one time at which point it throttled itself. Hope someone at Samsung actually
knows how the UK law operates and sorts this out.
That seems like a crack, do you have a gap to the near edge there ? Im pretty sure the tiny gaps the phone has are to prevent exactly this type of cracking the screen against the metal edge due to heat cycles
Update: There are now three scratch/cracks which are parallel. I am beyond upset with Samsung and their unwillingness to sort this issue out.
I hope this doesn't happen to me x_x I doubt anyone would believe me if I told them that at best buy or something
Holy sh*t dude.
Let me know how this goes tomorrow. That is NOT cool.
That's not looking good at all, you should repost your story and photos on Samsung's Facebookpage and Google Plus page for everyone to see and hope that they will reply to you there. It might be a way to get around the denied reply you got from techsupport.
/ Magnus
You obviously have a faulty unit. Raise hell and don't give up until they replace it.
Another "phone crack by itself" thread? Those usually don't fly too well here and usually amounts to, the OP just talking a lot of hot air I'm just eating the cost of repair if he doesn't have insurance.
shook187 said:
Another "phone crack by itself" thread? Those usually don't fly too well here and usually amounts to, the OP just talking a lot of hot air I'm just eating the cost of repair if he doesn't have insurance.
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Cool story bro. You wouldn't believe it until it happens to you. At the end of the day, if I were to scratch or crack my phone, I wouldn't give a **** and just replace the screen myself.
But in this case, I am disappointed with a phone I purchased less than 2 weeks ago. I'd expect it to be defect free for £630 and if it does have a defect Samsung should have taken it back.
I've never owned an Apple phone before, but I have purchased headphones from the apple store before which when it went faulty after 11 months they swiftly refunded it according to the 'sales of goods act' which the manager lady there said so herself. The lads at Samsung need a sales law seminar.
I see little leprechauns in my garden at night and no one believes me.
My Note 2 has a crack that runs diagonally from the upper left to the lower right. One single continuous crack that mysteriously showed up out of the blue. No spider webbing or whatever. I did NOT drop my phone. I did not witness the crack appear, as the OP, but did notice it shortly after I had been for a walk out in the heat. I have always been convinced that it was a fault in the glass to make it crack in this way. Phone still works fine and I never pursued the issue with Samsung (I had owned the phone approximately 7 months when said crack occurred.) I work at a college and have seen a huge amount of cracked screens...all spiderwebbed and nasty...mine is just the one diagonal edge to edge anomaly. So yeah, I believe it could happen. Good luck getting Samsung or the carrier to do anything about it though. I do wish you well on your endeavor.
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bozdag said:
So today as I was whatsapping and after sending my messaging I turned the screen off to place my note 4 on the table. As I did so while the phone was still in my hand I noticed a crack/ scratch form itself.
Naturally I took it back to Samsung whom refused to take it back saying it was my fault. In the UK we have a sales of goods act in which the dealer must prove that there is no inherent fault if the product is faulty within 6 months. They just outright refused me.
I will give the head office a call tomorrow and if that gets me nowhere I'll take it to a small claims court.
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If you have the option, just try a different location to do the exchange. That doesn't look like a typical crack.
Happened to my s4, the thread is still going I think. It cracked like that in my pocket. I think it was from heat of my thigh and the cool air or something. Samsung told me I must have dropped it for that to happen. And in the end I sold it on eBay for spares and got like £200 for it.... Best of luck.
Hendrickson said:
Happened to my s4, the thread is still going I think. It cracked like that in my pocket. I think it was from heat of my thigh and the cool air or something. Samsung told me I must have dropped it for that to happen. And in the end I sold it on eBay for spares and got like £200for it.... Best of luck.
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I hope extreme cold to warm won't make that happen.. It's about to be that freezing time of the year x_x
Could you update the OP with the additional cracks?
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That got me scared because I have a scratch in a similar place - not reaching the border and much smaller though. I hope it's just a scratch..
Samsung really became Samsuck lately.....
I'll never go back to Samsung again after I replace my S-2. The best smartphone made by Samsung ever. All the rest is a pure miss by them.
To OP and fellas with cracked screens....good luck on your way and a pro tip......Don't buy Samsung anymore...they just need money....your money....that is all their aim is....purchase another device which is "better"....sadly...
my 0.02€
Thanks in advance for any advice offered...
Some orange juice spilled on my S6 Edge and caused liquid damage to PBA (motherboard) components. (By the way, thanks to all that called for a "cooler" looking phone...now it can't withstand a splash of liquid, but that's another post in another thread)
In my naïve nature, I assumed that Samsung would be able to repair the phone for me, albeit at a significant cost, so I sent it off to their repair center.
The ticket notes were updated after a Samsung tech looked at the phone and deemed it Beyond Economic Repair (BER) due to liquid damage to PBA components and send the broken phone in the mail without even giving me the option to pay to replace the damaged internals. After all, replacing parts of the phone should not be as expensive as purchasing the phone at full cost right?
I've done some reading online to see what options I have available to me at this point, but all seem to point to the damaged phone being a really expensive paper weight.
I just wanted to check in to see if anyone has had experience with a situation like this...or if anyone had advice on what options I have at this point.
Can the phone be repaired for less than the full retail cost of a replacement phone (approx. $900 for the model I have)?
If not, do liquid damaged phones sell for spare parts? (Screen & body of the phone are in mint condition)
You can go to Swappa.com and look in the boneyard to see if anyone is selling a busted s6 for parts. You can also sell your damaged phone in the boneyard.
It was likely more than a splash, I'm guessing a spill or full dunk if it migrated all the way through to the motherboard?
I've dropped my phone in a full sink of water (twice) and immediately grabbed it out and it was completely unharmed.
If a splash had the ability to damage it, then how did it manage to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGBKmIlk52Q
Is there any life in the phone at all? Orange juice is very corrosive and a electrical conductor due to the ions in the juice, so it doesn't take much to short things out and reek havoc. I don't know how good you are at taking things apart and fixing them but if it were me I would tear into it and completely disassemble it. Wash all the boards thoroughly with distilled water then give it a soaking in 100% isopropal alcohol. Let it dry thoroughly, check the battery for voltage and try and fire it up. Don't wash or soak the battery by the way. I've fixed a few phone this way that had coke or dirty water in them. Had an iPhone my wife dropped in a toilet last an additional two years after doing this. I had a phone myself I dropped in a glass of diet coke go back to working after a thorough cleaning. Still works to this day and that's been years ago. Those technicians aren't going to spend the time doing this due to the cost of the labor and the off chance it may quite on you down the rd. Anyhow, hope you can revive it. Good luck!
RajCaj said:
Thanks in advance for any advice offered...
Some orange juice spilled on my S6 Edge and caused liquid damage to PBA (motherboard) components. (By the way, thanks to all that called for a "cooler" looking phone...now it can't withstand a splash of liquid, but that's another post in another thread)
In my naïve nature, I assumed that Samsung would be able to repair the phone for me, albeit at a significant cost, so I sent it off to their repair center.
The ticket notes were updated after a Samsung tech looked at the phone and deemed it Beyond Economic Repair (BER) due to liquid damage to PBA components and send the broken phone in the mail without even giving me the option to pay to replace the damaged internals. After all, replacing parts of the phone should not be as expensive as purchasing the phone at full cost right?
I've done some reading online to see what options I have available to me at this point, but all seem to point to the damaged phone being a really expensive paper weight.
I just wanted to check in to see if anyone has had experience with a situation like this...or if anyone had advice on what options I have at this point.
Can the phone be repaired for less than the full retail cost of a replacement phone (approx. $900 for the model I have)?
If not, do liquid damaged phones sell for spare parts? (Screen & body of the phone are in mint condition)
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You picked the phone! you could have gotten the less flashy seemingly more durable sibling if you had wanted.
Otherwise though yeah, you could see how much Samsung would charge you to fix it, and or start looking for replacement parts.
TechSavvy2 said:
It was likely more than a splash, I'm guessing a spill or full dunk if it migrated all the way through to the motherboard?
I've dropped my phone in a full sink of water (twice) and immediately grabbed it out and it was completely unharmed.
If a splash had the ability to damage it, then how did it manage to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGBKmIlk52Q
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It was in a bag with a unsealed bottle of orange juice. When the bag was picked up, the bottle of orange juice spilled and wet the phone. It wasn't fully submerged, and was in contact with the juice for 30 seconds max.
The phone was a little wet on the outside, but was still functional. I wiped it off and the phone operated with no problem.
Few hours later it started acting up. I restarted it and could never get it to boot back up, while not plugged in, since.
As a matter of fact, I didn't shut the phone down and immediately start remediation because I assumed (from watching the videos like you linked) the phone was capable of withstanding brief exposure to liquid.
beaverslayer said:
Is there any life in the phone at all? Orange juice is very corrosive and a electrical conductor due to the ions in the juice, so it doesn't take much to short things out and reek havoc. I don't know how good you are at taking things apart and fixing them but if it were me I would tear into it and completely disassemble it. Wash all the boards thoroughly with distilled water then give it a soaking in 100% isopropal alcohol. Let it dry thoroughly, check the battery for voltage and try and fire it up. Don't wash or soak the battery by the way. I've fixed a few phone this way that had coke or dirty water in them. Had an iPhone my wife dropped in a toilet last an additional two years after doing this. I had a phone myself I dropped in a glass of diet coke go back to working after a thorough cleaning. Still works to this day and that's been years ago. Those technicians aren't going to spend the time doing this due to the cost of the labor and the off chance it may quite on you down the rd. Anyhow, hope you can revive it. Good luck!
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It has *some* life. If I plug the phone in to a generic USB power brick, the Samsung logo will pop up & start the AT&T music and then immediately goes into a reboot loop where it starts the process over again. If I plug it into the Samsung USB brick it came with, I was able to get it to fully boot into the operating system, but crashed the first time I tried to access my pictures in the gallery, and then allowed me to pull up the pictures after a second try.
If there is no power going to the phone (via USB or wireless charging) the phone does not respond at all.
I watched a video of a S6 Edge teardown and it's MUCH more difficult than the previous models (which had removable back panels). I think iFixit rated it a reparability score of 3 out of 10.
They had to use special equipment to lift the back glass up enough (just short of breaking it) to get a guitar looking pick underneath to remove the glue. Once the back glass is off, they had to also unglue the battery to get it out.
Not having much to loose at this point, I submerged it in 91% iso-rubbing alchohol for 3hrs and will let it set in a bag of rice for 2-3 days.
I think the damage has already been done though. Will removing corrosion after there's been a short on the circuit board do anything?
whoamanwtf said:
You picked the phone! you could have gotten the less flashy seemingly more durable sibling if you had wanted.
Otherwise though yeah, you could see how much Samsung would charge you to fix it, and or start looking for replacement parts.
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Yea, I did pick it. IR blaster is an important feature for me, so my options were HTC or Samsung. I've owned 2 galaxy phones & like the synergy with my Samsung TV so I went for the Galaxy....despite my concerns with the step backwards (in terms of water resistance & utility) from the S5.
I've talked to Samsung and they will not give me an option to repair. They say that the parts + labor to fix the phone exceeds the cost of a new phone.
When a phone with possible water damage is sent to Samsung for repair....do they actually open up the phone to verify it's liquid damage, or do they just look for the liquid indicator and call it liquid damage if it's red?
My regular S6 survived a massive downpour yesterday while hiking I have no idea how I got so lucky. I opened it up to check it too and everything was okay internally. I guess they weren't kidding when they said it can withstand some liquid damage so long as it isn't submerged.
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To all in this thread ........... Water damage, liquid damage .....etc
To answer a couple of these questions .......... If water infiltrates inside the back of the phone ...... there is a strip that will change properties that indicates water got in the phone. Newer devices (not just phones, cameras lenses...etc) uses more exotic materials that you cannot easily detect ..... they will show up under UV .......... so to answer that Yes the manufacturer usually can tell..... if it is not obvious, often they do not check ......
To all the Physics ..... comments .......... Water infiltrates based on the seal of the back or the front depending on how the phone is constructed air resistance within the device if sealed ...we could assume it is 14.7 psi or Sea level average atmospheric pressure. As soon as you drop something into say a pool, if it were to sink to 5-feet under the psi would increase to about 17 psi outside force pushing against the interior 14.7 psi....... Without getting into partial pressure laws and more math and physics.........
Greater Out side force is exerting against a lesser force inside the phone........ this precipitates faster infiltration ......... All aforesaid is great academics ......... The Bottom line is this
If you drop your phone into water or any water based fluid then...... Remove as quickly as possible, remove the power source (this is why I prefer a removable battery) the power source is the thing that Really speeds up the water damage.
So here is how to deal with water intrusions
1. Dry it off
2. Remove the power source asap
3. Dry it again .....
4. Immerse is Rubbing alcohol 91% (preferably Denatured reagent) if possible, the Alcohol bonds the water molecules to it for a minute or 2........ then remove and dry off with paper towels
5. Then put in Millet, Rice, Desiccant... etc
I have had to do this a number of times in my life with underwater cameras when the housing leaks ........ a real pain being 100-120 feet under and have to stop the shoot because of a housing leaks
But considering my average lens is 1000 bucks and saltwater will destroy the coatings (not to mention electronics) I have only lost 1 lens and one camera in 25 years and no phone ever due to water infiltration occurrences. But being careful and immediate response is the key ....... be Vigilant ( in this case, that means know how to open the phone and remove the power source)
Hope that helps clear some things up ..........
In South Africa we get ADH (accident and damage handling) on Samsung flagships, but they have been tightening the strings since the S5.
ADH covers screen / body damage with a free repair as part of the warranty.
Water damage on the S6 AFAIK isn't covered anymore like it was on previous Galaxy devices.
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RajCaj said:
Thanks in advance for any advice offered...
Some orange juice spilled on my S6 Edge and caused liquid damage to PBA (motherboard) components. (By the way, thanks to all that called for a "cooler" looking phone...now it can't withstand a splash of liquid, but that's another post in another thread)
In my naïve nature, I assumed that Samsung would be able to repair the phone for me, albeit at a significant cost, so I sent it off to their repair center.
The ticket notes were updated after a Samsung tech looked at the phone and deemed it Beyond Economic Repair (BER) due to liquid damage to PBA components and send the broken phone in the mail without even giving me the option to pay to replace the damaged internals. After all, replacing parts of the phone should not be as expensive as purchasing the phone at full cost right?
I've done some reading online to see what options I have available to me at this point, but all seem to point to the damaged phone being a really expensive paper weight.
I just wanted to check in to see if anyone has had experience with a situation like this...or if anyone had advice on what options I have at this point.
Can the phone be repaired for less than the full retail cost of a replacement phone (approx. $900 for the model I have)?
If not, do liquid damaged phones sell for spare parts? (Screen & body of the phone are in mint condition)
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Purchase an s6 active
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Beyond Economic repair means the cost of fixing it is more than the phones cost.
Yes, the phone that just released in the US last Friday, on AT&T only.
Had I known what I know now about the S6 Edge's ability to stand up to liquid exposure & the cost to repair liquid damaged phones, I would have foregone the Edge pre-order and waited the 2 months for Samsung to offer a waterproof version of the phone. Also, prior Active models had lesser hardware profiles and wouldn't have seemed like a good alternative for me when I was in the market for a new phone.
I really wish more manufactures built their phone with IR ports....then I wouldn't be beholden to Samsung's BS.
oka1 said:
So here is how to deal with water intrusions
1. Dry it off
2. Remove the power source asap
3. Dry it again .....
4. Immerse is Rubbing alcohol 91% (preferably Denatured reagent) if possible, the Alcohol bonds the water molecules to it for a minute or 2........ then remove and dry off with paper towels
5. Then put in Millet, Rice, Desiccant... etc
I have had to do this a number of times in my life with underwater cameras when the housing leaks ........ a real pain being 100-120 feet under and have to stop the shoot because of a housing leaks
But considering my average lens is 1000 bucks and saltwater will destroy the coatings (not to mention electronics) I have only lost 1 lens and one camera in 25 years and no phone ever due to water infiltration occurrences. But being careful and immediate response is the key ....... be Vigilant ( in this case, that means know how to open the phone and remove the power source)
Hope that helps clear some things up .........
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Thanks for the advise....I will certainly handle things differently if this ever happens again.
Couple of quick questions, since you have experience with this stuff....
Is it possible for the 91% alcohol to further damage the device? Are there specific components that do okay in an alcohol bath vs others? IE battery, speakers, camera, etc?
Also, how long should you dry the phone in absorbent material before attempting to power it up again?
Before I sent the phone off to Samsung, I could at least get the phone to power up while plugged in.
Since I've received the phone back from Samsung, and have given it the alcohol / rice treatment, the phone won't power up at all...even plugged in.
Either way, the phone is dead I'm afraid. Since I'm not certain which components are working, and are not, I can't even sell the thing for spare parts. Most expensive paperweight I've ever owned!
RajCaj said:
Thanks for the advise....I will certainly handle things differently if this ever happens again.
Couple of quick questions, since you have experience with this stuff....
Is it possible for the 91% alcohol to further damage the device? Are there specific components that do okay in an alcohol bath vs others? IE battery, speakers, camera, etc?
Also, how long should you dry the phone in absorbent material before attempting to power it up again?
Before I sent the phone off to Samsung, I could at least get the phone to power up while plugged in.
Since I've received the phone back from Samsung, and have given it the alcohol / rice treatment, the phone won't power up at all...even plugged in.
Either way, the phone is dead I'm afraid. Since I'm not certain which components are working, and are not, I can't even sell the thing for spare parts. Most expensive paperweight I've ever owned!
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Cannot put in Alcohol if the battery is connected ....... Battery and any fluid = not good .... The other items really will not do anything ........ either way Go to Pandawill.com, Aliexpress.com, Dynamism.com or Chinawholesale.com one of those websites sells motherboards and other cell phone parts I think I saw them for like 80 bucks ......... worth looking into ..... Sorry the phone died...... good luck
You can buy it from aliexpress,amazon or HCQS
Just wanted to share my negative experience and may be get a piece of advise. I dropped my Galaxy S6 (not edge) into the water after which home button stopped working. Couple weeks later as home button were still not functioning I soaked my phone in 99.9% of isopropyl alcohol. Couple hours later half of screen stopped reacting to fingers, and a few hours screen become black. There were also significant damage to frond and back panel plastic base behind the glass - see photos. I still hear some notifications which gives me a hope that there are still some life in it. I also left phone in rise for 4 days with no improvement. Does anyone had such a negative experience with Alcohol soaking and what could be a solution if any?
zipper3 said:
Just wanted to share my negative experience and may be get a piece of advise. I dropped my Galaxy S6 (not edge) into the water after which home button stopped working. Couple weeks later as home button were still not functioning I soaked my phone in 99.9% of isopropyl alcohol. Couple hours later half of screen stopped reacting to fingers, and a few hours screen become black. There were also significant damage to frond and back panel plastic base behind the glass - see photos. I still hear some notifications which gives me a hope that there are still some life in it. I also left phone in rise for 4 days with no improvement. Does anyone had such a negative experience with Alcohol soaking and what could be a solution if any?
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If your phone is still acting like that or even died, you can open it up ( check youtube vids for dissasembly )
Take any clean alcohol..95%+ and ESD brush ( or toothbrush if you dont have any ) Take off any modules from your motherboard like microphones, cameras, usb board etc. Then gently clean everything with brush and alkohol. When you're finished - put it in electric oven if u have any for 1-2 hours in max 90 degrees temp. If not - use a hairdryer. Do same thing with usb board. Then put it back togheter and try.
I've had a long 24 hours with my N6. Dropped it in the toilet last night, pulled it out immediately but flashlight was on and stays on, even when device is off. Couldn't get any software to turn it off, figured something shorted out somewhere. Found instructions on youtube for how to get it open, figured I would just unplug the camera and be cameraless but at least not have the light on all the time draining battery.
During the process of removing everything i apparently broke the solder that is how the power/vol buttons plug into the mobo, so they stopped working completely. I also learned that flashlight is not controlled by the camera, so removing the camera does nothing. I could not find where the lights plugged in, but I did find just below the lights if I stuck a small slit of a credit card and wedged it between two pieces of plastic, the lights went off. So I did that and buttoned it back up, then downloaded some apps that allowed me to have a functioning phone without the use of the power/vol keys. I thought I was good to go, all things considered.
Later I learn the thing will not charge. Like I plug it in and get the charging icon on the phone, but it doesn't actually charge. When I took the thing apart I did not even touch the charging portion of the phone's internals, so I don't exactly know why it would not be charging at all. I can also place it on a Qi wireless dock and the dock lights blue to show it is receiving the qi signal (charging), but if I look on the phone itself, it doesn't not show the charge sign, so I assume it is not charging. Also in order to get the phone on with no functioning power button, you have to hook it up to the Qi charger and that automatically boots the phone up. That is working as well, but again, it's just not charging.
So somehow the wired and wireless charging mechanisms in the phone are being recognized by the phone, they just aren't actually doing any real charging. I'm about to pull out my hair if I can't figure this out. Please let me know if you have any ideas and I would greatly appreciate it.
Yeah... I'd wager that the dunking did more to the internals than just make the light turn on. Your attempts at fixing it doesn't seem to have helped either (but cudos for trying).
Maybe you can get a phone with a busted screen on eBay, or something, and use it for parts.
Time to bite the bullet and call this one. This Nexus is dead.
Didgeridoohan said:
Yeah... I'd wager that the dunking did more to the internals than just make the light turn on. Your attempts at fixing it doesn't seem to have helped either (but cudos for trying).
Maybe you can get a phone with a busted screen on eBay, or something, and use it for parts.
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I thought this is probably the case too and the water damage slowly is malfunctioning multiple hardware components. The red water indicator is definitely on, but I've heard multiple reports these phones are water resistant, and a rushed toilet baptism didn't seem severe enough to destroy a "water resistant" phone.
Thanks for the help. Any other ideas or thoughts greatly appreciated.
The Nexus 6 isn't water resistant. It's splash resistant, but won't survive being dunked.
Didgeridoohan said:
Yeah... I'd wager that the dunking did more to the internals than just make the light turn on. Your attempts at fixing it doesn't seem to have helped either (but cudos for trying).
Maybe you can get a phone with a busted screen on eBay, or something, and use it for parts.
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How much would you think I should spend on a N6 with a cracked screen if I wanted to Frankenstein a working one? What about this one, says a cracked screen that doesn't turn on. I don't know if there is anyway to know if the screen here is broken or something on the mobo though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Ne...472835?hash=item210fd400c3:g:gv0AAOSwGeBXP0kP
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Time to bite the bullet and call this one. This Nexus is dead.
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the other thing i learned today was if i leave it plugged in it does not lose charge and will stay powered on. but it won't add any charge either.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The Nexus 6 isn't water resistant. It's splash resistant, but won't survive being dunked.
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I know, and we don't have to debate the effectiveness of a water soaked N6, but there are Youtube videos showing people dunking their phones for several minute intervals with no ill effects. I would never have tried that, but if SOME of these phones can handle that kind of water abuse, I feel like I have a little bit of bad luck since mine couldn't even take a single quick dip.
But none of those phones are a Nexus 6. Those phones that were dunked in YouTube videos and survived all had a water resistance rating clearly given in their specifications. The Nexus 6 does not have a water resistance rating of any kind. You cannot assume the Nexus 6 could survive a quick trip to the can based upon YouTube videos.
In simple language, if it doesn't say it's water resistant, then it isn't water resistant.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
But none of those phones are a Nexus 6. Those phones that were dunked in YouTube videos and survived all had a water resistance rating clearly given in their specifications. The Nexus 6 does not have a water resistance rating of any kind. You cannot assume the Nexus 6 could survive a quick trip to the can based upon YouTube videos.
In simple language, if it doesn't say it's water resistant, then it isn't water resistant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_aTg1VU6k
that is definitely an unprotected nexus 6 submerged in water for over an hour. mine went in and was out in 5 seconds.
question on what you guys think i should do at this point:
1. i see NEW lcds going for like $100+ on ebay. should i take mine apart and sell it? not sure what i would get it for it used, but screen is in 100% perfect shape, not a single scratch on it. Maybe i could get $75 for it?
2. sell the whole phone for parts, maybe $50?
3. try and find a cracked screen nexus 6 for ~$50 and attempt to put my lcd in that then have a fully functioning nexus 6. my only issue with that, is that if i screw up the install i've blown an additional $50.
i figure by the time the latest nexus comes out, which is when i would upgrade, the N6 will probably only be worth about $150. it seems reasonable for me to just either sell for parts or sell only the lcd screen and cut my losses and move on, but curious what others might think is the best bet.
Sounds like a plan to me... At some point it's just not worth the hassle anymore.
The problem with selling it for parts is that you don't know to what extent the water has damaged the internals. You'd have to be up front about that, which severely reduces the value of the parts. Number 2 sounds like the most likely option to me...
Didgeridoohan said:
Sounds like a plan to me... At some point it's just not worth the hassle anymore.
The problem with selling it for parts is that you don't know to what extent the water has damaged the internals. You'd have to be up front about that, which severely reduces the value of the parts. Number 2 sounds like the most likely option to me...
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i agree, i would just state water damaged and the specific items not functioning properly.
tuffluck said:
that is definitely an unprotected nexus 6 submerged in water for over an hour. mine went in and was out in 5 seconds.
question on what you guys think i should do at this point.
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Then the person or persons attempting the dunk tests on YouTube are idiots. If it doesn't say it's water resistant, it's not water resistant. Period. End of discussion.
Check the Swappa Boneyard for a cracked screen Nexus 6. Purchase it and replace the screen with yours, once you've verified that the screen has no damage. I'd not recommend Ebay, simply because you have no guarantee that the IMEI of the replacement device hasn't been blacklisted. On Swappa, I believe they have to declare whether or not the IMEI is clear or not.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Then the person or persons attempting the dunk tests on YouTube are idiots. If it doesn't say it's water resistant, it's not water resistant. Period. End of discussion.
Check the Swappa Boneyard for a cracked screen Nexus 6. Purchase it and replace the screen with yours, once you've verified that the screen has no damage. I'd not recommend Ebay, simply because you have no guarantee that the IMEI of the replacement device hasn't been blacklisted. On Swappa, I believe they have to declare whether or not the IMEI is clear or not.
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sold it this evening for about $100, broken and all. i guess since they go for around $200 on ebay used in perfect working order then i can't be too upset. thank you for all of your help.